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NL CY Race
| Frayed Knot Jul 27 2015 07:15 AM |
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It's far too early to start dissecting this year's CY Award ... but it's an off-day so I'm going to do it anyway.
Probably have to give the edge right now to Greinke with that absurd ERA (which got a touch higher yesterday - heh, heh, heh) and the just-ended streak. And shirley Gerritt Cole will get support by having the best record (plus some pretty durn good peripherals himself). But our boy should be right in the mix along with those two plus Scherzer & Martinez. Kershaw and Bumgarner have the biggest names though are slightly off their top forms this season while Shelby Miller is going to have to overcome a losing record and Cueto just got shipped to the AL which takes him out of the running.
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| Edgy MD Jul 27 2015 07:41 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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FanGraphs sees a two-man race at this point, and Greinke, amazingly, isn't among the two, measuring by their WAR numbers. Cole is right out.
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| Mets – Willets Point Jul 27 2015 09:23 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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I'm surprised there aren't more Mets on this list, but I don't really pay attention to the rest of the league.
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| Edgy MD Jul 27 2015 09:30 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Pitcher WAR
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| Frayed Knot Jul 27 2015 10:53 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Well the original list was just one I made up so others can certainly be added or subtracted. That crew I came up with just seemed like the most likely candidates at this point in the season (while acknowledging that more than 1/3 of the season remains) and I think it's clear that deGrom has been the best hurler to date from our side. And with CY ballots allowing just five names (used to be only 3) usually only a half-dozen guys get meaningful votes anyway as most of the ballots list pretty much the same names in varying orders.
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| Frayed Knot Aug 19 2015 06:26 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Probably still Greinke in the lead, but the gap may be shrinking.
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2015 07:00 AM Re: NL CY Race Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 19 2015 07:02 AM |
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The gap between Greinke and everybody else is shrinking. I'd say that the gap will continue to shrink, but I'm just guessing. Greinke's season, to date, is spectacular --- but hardly unprecedented. And Greinke has a track record. Is your list ordered the way it is for any specific reason, or is the order just sort of random? Today, I'd vote Greinke, deGrom, then Kershaw.
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| Frayed Knot Aug 19 2015 07:02 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Random
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| Edgy MD Aug 19 2015 07:29 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Even if the gap in the peripherals shrink, Greinke has an appealing won-loss record. That gap will have to shrink as well, and there's only so much control a man has over that.
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2015 07:32 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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And Greinke already has a CYA with a not so traditionally CY-ish W-L record. On the subject of deGrom, he's by far, my favorite Met. And ever since deGrom's gotten his feet wet last year, he's been about as good as anybody in the game. He might've been baseball's best pitcher over the last month and a half, two months of last season, as good, if not better than even Mr. Kershaw.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 19 2015 07:35 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Indeed. 
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| Ceetar Aug 19 2015 07:39 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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It's mostly cherry picking, they're all so close. Scherzer is right there too. So is Arrieta. And if the Mets manage deGrom's innings I think that hurts him. Being awesome for 20 more IP counts for something.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 19 2015 07:49 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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In a race this close the thing that might matter is the team's performance. I know its not supposed to count but you figure in a close call if Greinke's Dodgers or deGrom's Mets go all the way -- or a maybe-likely matchup between them goes one way or the other in the playoffs, then that could carry the vote.
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| Ceetar Aug 19 2015 07:51 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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The votes go in before the playoffs don't they? This might eliminate Scherzer but most of the other guys are gonna make it.
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| Benjamin Grimm Aug 19 2015 07:58 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Yes, votes are cast before the playoffs begin.
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| Vic Sage Aug 19 2015 08:05 AM Re: NL CY Race Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 19 2015 08:59 AM |
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Top 10 ranked by pitcher's WAR/ NL:
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| Edgy MD Aug 19 2015 08:12 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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I got no room in the discussion for Scherzer.
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| Ceetar Aug 19 2015 08:16 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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It doesn't really _mean_ anything, but the no hitter is going to play in his favor too.
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| Vic Sage Aug 19 2015 08:39 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Regardless, it feels nice to have 2 SPers in the top 7, and another as a serious (if unlikely) ROY candidate.
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2015 08:45 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagu ... ders.shtml
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| Vic Sage Aug 19 2015 08:55 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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oops. i missed Lackey (3.2).
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| Frayed Knot Aug 19 2015 09:35 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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Bumgarner is starting to make a late season push.
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| Frayed Knot Sep 30 2015 10:37 AM Re: NL CY Race |
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This has turned into a 2-man race between Greinke & Arrieta with our boy falling off the back-end somewhere although he could see some 4th or 5th place votes on a couple of ballots.
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| dinosaur jesus Sep 30 2015 12:46 PM Re: NL CY Race |
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Gotta be Arrieta. Wins still trump ERA if the ERA is close. Greinke has that great winning percentage going for him, but Arrieta's is pretty damn good. Plus getting the Cubs to the postseason is the kind of good story that voters like.
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