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I.G.T. 8/19/15 Mets @ Birds Noah build a lead.

Ashie62
Aug 19 2015 01:14 AM

Lets get Noah untracked on the road.

LETS GO METS!

d'Kong76
Aug 19 2015 09:00 AM
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NY Mets at Baltimore
When: 7:05 PM ET, Wednesday, August 19, 2015
Where: Oriole Park at Camden Yards, Baltimore, Maryland
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The New York Mets look to continue their dominance over the host Baltimore Orioles and complete a sweep of the two-game interleague series Wednesday night at Camden Yards. Curtis Granderson swatted a pair of solo home runs as the Mets eased to a 5-3 victory Tuesday to extend their winning streak against Baltimore to nine games.

New York halted a three-game skid to open its nine-game road trip, surviving a pair of bases-loaded walks in the ninth inning by closer Jeurys Familia. Mets second baseman Daniel Murphy has hit safely in 12 of the last 13 games, including seven multi-hit contests. Catcher Matt Wieters returned to the lineup for the first time since Aug. 11 and collected a pair of hits for the Orioles, who had their four-game winning streak snapped. Baltimore sends Ubaldo Jimenez to the mound to oppose rookie Noah Syndergaard, who is seeking his first victory away from home.

TV: 7:05 p.m. ET, SNY (New York), MASN (Baltimore)

PITCHING MATCHUP: Mets RH Noah Syndergaard (7-6, 3.07 ERA) vs. Orioles RH Ubaldo Jiménez (9-7, 3.92)

Syndergaard earned the victory by working seven strong innings last time out, permitting three runs on four hits to the Colorado Rockies to boost his home record to 7-1. His road woes continued in his previous turn, when he lasted only four innings and was reached for five runs on eight hits in a loss at Tampa Bay. Syndergaard has surrendered five homers over the last three starts, matching the total allowed in his previous 13 outings.

Jimenez again failed in his bid to put together consecutive strong starts following the All-Star break, giving up four runs on nine hits over five innings in a no-decision against Oakland. He had turned in a magnificent performance in his previous start, blanking the Los Angeles Angels on two hits over eight innings. Jimenez allowed three runs over four innings in a loss to the Mets on May 6, dropping to 2-4 against them in his career.

WALK-OFFS:
1. Granderson set a franchise record with his seventh leadoff homer of the season Tuesday.
2. Orioles SS J.J. Hardy is in a 4-for-37 slump but ended a nine-game RBI drought by drawing a bases-loaded walk.
3. The Mets placed Bobby Parnell on 15-day disabled list and recalled fellow RHP Logan Verrett from Triple-A Las Vegas.

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2015 09:18 AM
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Same section for me tonight, this time accompanied by my fair wife.

I don't know how much of it was me seating near the 7LA, but the park was seriously Metty last night. Lots of mixed marriages, too. All I spoke to agreed that the Yankees are a bunch of turds.

d'Kong76
Aug 19 2015 09:24 AM
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Seemed like 2/3's Met fans even without the BI's.

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2015 09:24 AM
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I went to one of the first (think it was THE first actually) NYM/Balt inter-league series weekend at Camden a bunch of years back. Two games back to back IIRC.
The locals -- not just at the park but also waitresses, cabbies, hotel folk, etc. -- seemed both surprised and a bit overwhelmed by the number of Met fans in for the weekend but also agreed we were much better "invaders" than were Yanqui fans.

d'Kong76
Aug 19 2015 09:34 AM
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Mets fans don't grunt and snort as much in public places!

Ceetar
Aug 19 2015 10:06 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I went to one of the first (think it was THE first actually) NYM/Balt inter-league series weekend at Camden a bunch of years back. Two games back to back IIRC.
The locals -- not just at the park but also waitresses, cabbies, hotel folk, etc. -- seemed both surprised and a bit overwhelmed by the number of Met fans in for the weekend but also agreed we were much better "invaders" than were Yanqui fans.


Me too. Think it was two times ago for me when I was there. It was part of a week where the Yankees and Red Sox also visiting and the Mets scored a billion runs and it felt like tons of Mets fans. I imagine CY felt weird for the home team that whole week.

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2015 10:47 AM
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Worth noting is that the Mets are sitting on a nine-game win streak over the Orioles. I think they're 22-9 lifetime over the Birds. That's 26-10 if you count post-season.

You're welcome, Yankees.

d'Kong76
Aug 19 2015 01:21 PM
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Granderson, RF
Murphy, 2B
Cespedes, DH
Duda, 1B
Uribe, 3B
d'Arnaud, C
Conforto, LF
Flores, SS
Lagares, CF

Machado, 3B
Parra, RF
Jones, CF
Davis, 1B
Schoop, 2B
Clevenger, DH
Hardy, SS
Urrutia, LF
Joseph, C

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2015 05:12 PM
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It took two batters today for a KABOOM!

Lefty Specialist
Aug 19 2015 05:35 PM
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Whoa. Nice Houdini act by Noah.

themetfairy
Aug 19 2015 05:35 PM
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Whew!

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2015 05:44 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Whoa. Nice Houdini act by Noah.


And a good thing he missed that 'kick-save' attempt on that eventual GiDP

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2015 06:03 PM
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Consensus here in section 72 is that first inning got the road monkey off Syndergaard's back.

Ruben, by the way, appears to be getting the series off after whiffing on that DP ball.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 19 2015 06:15 PM
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Benjamin Grimm
Aug 19 2015 06:37 PM
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Nice to see them get one back immediately.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 19 2015 07:01 PM
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Well, fuck.

themetfairy
Aug 19 2015 07:12 PM
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[bigpurple:uouo4rcz]Wilmer!!!!![/bigpurple:uouo4rcz]

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 19 2015 07:12 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:

Ceetar
Aug 19 2015 07:24 PM
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hey, I hope the Mets win this one!

Fman99
Aug 19 2015 07:58 PM
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Leadoff knock for Coach Cruddy. C'mon, Wilmer.

Fman99
Aug 19 2015 08:00 PM
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Poop

Zvon
Aug 19 2015 08:08 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 19 2015 08:08 PM

I can't watch the bottom innings from here on out.



Oh shit, no need.

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2015 08:08 PM
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Especially with the day off tomorrow, I think this is definitely a case where Terry is cycling through his relievers too quickly.
No reason why Verrett, Clip-art, and now Robles couldn't have worked a second inning.


And as I'm typing we pay the price.

Fman99
Aug 19 2015 08:09 PM
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Stupid tiny ballpark.

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2015 08:14 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Especially with the day off tomorrow, I think this is definitely a case where Terry is cycling through his relievers too quickly.
No reason why Verrett, Clip-art, and now Robles couldn't have worked a second inning.


Verrett - 1 inning (3 outs) 6 pitches
Robles - 3 outs, 20 pitches
Clippard - 3 outs, 13 pitches

Really only Robles had a tough inning (and gave up a run).

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2015 09:05 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Ruben, by the way, appears to be getting the series off after whiffing on that DP ball.

A pair of bouncers ended up sneaking through the middle that Ruben might have gotten to, one for a double play. Starting Uribe against righties isn't paying off of late.

Got to see one classic Lagares play, but I ended up cutting out before the bottom of the ninth. Long day at work tomorrow. You want to put that loss on me, I understand.

But yeah, the one-inning-reliever thing is murder. Pointless under American League rules, certainly.

Zvon
Aug 20 2015 02:12 PM
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I'd like to thank Mike Viccaro. As the rest of the POST shit on CTorres, Mike pointed out that the W.O.H.R was a F-7 anywhere else.

Frayed Knot
Aug 20 2015 02:16 PM
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On the other hand, so were Murph's & Wilmer's HRs

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 20 2015 02:25 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
But yeah, the one-inning-reliever thing is murder.


It's one of the things I find most irritating about the modern version of the game. I understand limiting Verrett if he's going to start on Sunday, but the other guys should have each gotten more innings. Why burn through your bullpen like that when the game could go into extra innings? And why save Familia for a "save situation" which may mean something in the stats column but means nothing in the standings? I can only think of two statistical rules that affect a manager's decisions. One of them, the rule that a starter needs five innings to get a win, rarely comes into play so it's less irritating. But the save rule has a frequent impact on the game and it's absurd. I want the Mets to hire the manager, whoever he (or she) is who is smart enough to see that.

Edgy MD
Aug 20 2015 02:36 PM
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The problem is that:
[list:1p4dpbcg][*:1p4dpbcg]Maybe Verrett's starting on Sunday, maybe not;[/*:m:1p4dpbcg]
[*:1p4dpbcg]So what? there are three days of rest before Sunday;[/*:m:1p4dpbcg]
[*:1p4dpbcg]His pitch count was in the single digits for Pete Falcone's sake[/*:m:1p4dpbcg]
[*:1p4dpbcg]Maybe an outing with 30 pitches or so with three days of rest is the right way to prep for that Sunday start;[/*:m:1p4dpbcg]
[*:1p4dpbcg]A game tied in the eighth or ninth is a better investment of resources than a game tied in the first — win today, while it is within your grasp![/*:m:1p4dpbcg]
[*:1p4dpbcg]I was there — for some of us it may have been our first game ever, and for many it was our last — honor me with the best strategy to win the day.[/*:m:1p4dpbcg][/list:u:1p4dpbcg]

d'Kong76
Aug 20 2015 02:46 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
[*]I was there — for some of us it may have been our first game ever, and for many it was our last — honor me with the best strategy to win the day.[/list]

Whoa hope everything's ok, man.

Edgy MD
Aug 20 2015 02:55 PM
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Fine. Obsession with mortality is just a default mindset of mine.

Frayed Knot
Aug 20 2015 03:06 PM
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Obviously the whole 'Save' thing comes into play and, yes, it is both annoying and often counter-productive especially w/Familia where there's even less of an excuse since he was neither promised, nor is being paid on, the numbers of saves he can rack up. It's tougher (though still not logical) to deny saves to 'certified closers' after you've signed them to large contracts and they base their self-worth on racking up the saves. It's why Papelbon could demand, and apparently get, promises from Nationals' mgmt that he'd be used strictly as the closer or he wouldn't approve the trade. He wants to catch (or at least come close) to Hoffman & Rivera in the career race and wasn't about to agree to a deal that wouldn't help him do that.

But beyond that, I think Terry is just one of those guys -- and there are many, Bobby V was of the same school -- who believe that the best use of relievers is more often for shorter stints. And while I can understand that rationale I think it's vastly over-done at times and this (Wednesday's) game was maybe the most egregious examples in recent memory. It's like he was racing through his set-up guys leaving him with no choice but to either go to the big guns in the closing innings or the supposed lesser guys as it goes tied into the 9th or extras.

By contrast, I heard a stat the other day labeling Showalter as being at the opposite end of that spectrum, that he gets more innings out of fewer pitching changes than any other manager (not that he uses the pen less necessarily but that he changes less often). Now yesterday both managers used four relievers each after their starters had given them just five innings so it all worked out the same although Buck wound up making two in-inning swaps indicating maybe that he saw a specific match-up he liked better and/or he changed only when sensing the incumbent fading in some fashion. This contrasts with Terry who made changes each time, and only when, a new inning clicked over, moves that could be interpreted as changes more by rote than by feel.




Obsession with mortality is just a default mindset of mine.


Give it up for Woody Allen ladies and gentlemen.
Now we know he left the game early the other night to catch the late showing of 'Sorrow and the Pity'

Zvon
Aug 20 2015 03:23 PM
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TC is set in his thinking that he needs a bridge to the 8th inning. That is to say he refuses to use his 8th inning guy any earlier, and I suppose that 2 innings from that 8th inning guy is out of the question.

He has to re-think that.

Edgy MD
Aug 20 2015 03:56 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Obsession with mortality is just a default mindset of mine.


Give it up for Woody Allen ladies and gentlemen.
Now we know he left the game early the other night to catch the late showing of 'Sorrow and the Pity'

God, no.

Frayed Knot
Aug 20 2015 08:33 PM
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What, you don't like 'The Sorry and the Pity'?