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Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 01 2015 11:28 AM

Hot out here at the beach. I think Niese is pitching.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 11:38 AM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Philadelphia at NY Mets When: 7:10 PM ET, Tuesday, September 1, 2015 Where: Citi Field, New York City, New York SportsDirect Inc. The New York Mets look to continue their utter domination of the Philadelphia Phillies when the National League East rivals play the second contest of their three-game series at Citi Field on Tuesday. The Mets have outscored the Phillies by a decisive 86-44 margin en route to winning 13 of the 14 meetings this season - including 10 in a row overall and all seven encounters thus far in Queens. Curtis Granderson belted a two-run homer in New York's 3-1 series-opening victory to improve to 8-for-20 (.400) in his last five games, but is just 4-for-21 (.190) against Tuesday starter Aaron Harang. Michael Conforto also went deep and has recorded multi-hit performances in each of his last three meetings with the Phillies. While NL East-leading New York has won nine of its last 11 to open a 6 1/2-game advantage over second-place Washington, Philadelphia (52-80) has dropped six of eight to claim sole possession of the majors-worst record. Freddy Galvis has 16 hits against the Mets this season, but is just 2-for-15 (.133) in his career versus Tuesday starter Jonathon Niese. TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, CSN Philadelphia, SNY (New York) PITCHING MATCHUP: Phillies RH Aaron Harang (5-14, 4.79 ERA) vs. Mets LH Jonathon Niese (8-9, 3.95) Harang would love a better performance against the Mets than his last outing on Thursday, when he was fortunate to walk away with a no-decision despite allowing five runs on nine hits - including three homers - in six innings. The 37-year-old hasn't won since July 30 and recorded a bloated 7.71 ERA (58 earned runs in 67 2/3 innings) in 12 starts since the end of May. Harang hasn't done himself any favors with his control - or lack thereof - as he has issued seven walks in his last two outings and 14 in his last five. Niese also didn't pitch well in that Thursday outing versus Philadelphia, walking away with a no-decision after permitting five runs on as many hits in six innings. The 28-year-old owns a 10-6 career mark against the Phillies with a 2.97 ERA, with strong performances versus the club earlier this season. Niese allowed one run in 6 1/3 innings of a 6-1 triumph on April 15 before yielding two on five hits while striking out six in seven frames of a 3-2 victory. WALK-OFFS: 1. New York 1B/OF Michael Cuddyer was given the night off in the opener, but is 19-for-38 with four homers and 12 RBIs in games against Philadelphia this season. 2. Phillies 2B Cesar Hernandez has recorded multi-hit performances in back-to-back contests after going 2-for-25 in his previous six contests. 3. Mets LH Steven Matz (lat) was activated from the disabled list late Monday, approximately an hour after allowing just one hit in 5 1/3 scoreless innings for Double-A Binghamton.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 11:49 AM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Cuddy, you Phillie-killer!

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 01:27 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Sweeney, CF Hernandez, 2B Altherr, LF Francoeur, RF Ruf, 1B Blanco, 3B Ruiz, C Galvis, SS Harang, P

G-Fafif Sep 01 2015 01:41 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Curtis Granderson – RF Yoenis Cespedes – CF Daniel Murphy – 2B David Wright – 3B Michael Conforto – LF Michael Cuddyer – 1B Travis d’Arnaud – C Ruben Tejada – SS Jonathon Niese – LHP

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 01:46 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

You know, I've already forgotten all about Lucas Duda. If he comes back healthy and productive, it will be a real bonus.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 01:48 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Cuddy starting in Flores' place today.

TransMonk Sep 01 2015 01:53 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 01 2015 01:54 PM

As of yesterday: I don't think he's eligible to come off the DL until at least Sunday, so I don't expect him this weekend.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 01:53 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Benjamin Grimm wrote: You know, I've already forgotten all about Lucas Duda. If he comes back healthy and productive, it will be a real bonus. I haven't and I'm a bit more concerned than I'd like to be. He hasn't even swung a bat yet.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 01:54 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

As of yesterday: I owe you a beer.

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 04:11 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Conforto is the bomb. Keep drafting those college guys.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 05:15 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I don't think Niese got all mopey on that misplay. Who gets the error? Whoa-line drive DP, 1-6 0-0 Mets

Zvon Sep 01 2015 05:27 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Harang effective in the 1st. OE: I thought I hit send after the first.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 05:31 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

That's when you slide into first.

cooby Sep 01 2015 05:33 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hot out here at the beach. I think Niese is pitching. Wide are you at the beach? And if so, where?

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 05:47 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Geno Auriemmia is one slow talker. Not an easy assignment for Steve Gelbs. The playoffs may begin before this interview winds up. And college basketball players aren't "girls," Steve.

Lefty Specialist Sep 01 2015 05:47 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I DON'T CARE WHAT GENO AUREMMIA THINKS ABOUT ANYTHING. GET HIM OFF.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 05:48 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I missed whatever happened here, 1-0 them. I didn't miss that screaming meemee by Frenchy. 2-0

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 05:49 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

The director should have pulled the plug on this five minutes ago.

Lefty Specialist Sep 01 2015 05:50 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

This is all Geno's fault.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 05:50 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Nor that bomb from Ruff. Yooooouch. 5-0

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 05:50 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Fucking Geno.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 01 2015 05:53 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

cooby wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hot out here at the beach. I think Niese is pitching. Wide are you at the beach? And if so, where? Camping at Cape Henlopen. Gathered round the old boom box for Howie and Kosh. Fire ablaze. Beer aopen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 01 2015 05:53 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

cooby wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hot out here at the beach. I think Niese is pitching. Wide are you at the beach? And if so, where? Camping at Cape Henlopen. Gathered round the old boom box for Howie and Kosh. Fire ablaze. Beer aopen.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 05:54 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Phils feed had Gino too but just a few seconds, a clip of him throwing the first pitch. No idea who he is.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 05:56 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hot out here at the beach. I think Niese is pitching. Wide are you at the beach? And if so, where? Camping at Cape Henlopen. Gathered round the old boom box for Howie and Kosh. Fire ablaze. Beer aopen. It don't get any better than that.

cooby Sep 01 2015 05:58 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Is that in NC? My son and his wife are headed there next weekend

Lefty Specialist Sep 01 2015 05:59 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Again, Niese lets an inning get away from him. It's why I don't want him starting in the postseason.

cooby Sep 01 2015 06:00 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Nope, Lewes....never mind :) But how is Lewes? We've often wondered

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 06:01 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Ughhh

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:06 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Well, I do believe we can comeback, but I am very disappointed in Niese. And he's our lefty vet, so he will be in all projected rotations. I expect this is just a blip for Niese, but that remains to be seen.

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 06:16 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

That offensive breakout at Philly may have been a sugar high.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:17 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Nice play by Niese. But he got a little mopey afterwards. Lil' bit.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:23 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Ha! Ruff sucks! ComeONNN Niese! 6-0

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 06:27 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Zvon wrote: And he's our lefty vet, so he will be in all projected rotations. I expect this is just a blip for Niese, but that remains to be seen. Well, two things: 1. I don't think a lefty is really necessary in a starting rotation. 2. Don't forget Steven Matz.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:32 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Benjamin Grimm wrote: And he's our lefty vet, so he will be in all projected rotations. I expect this is just a blip for Niese, but that remains to be seen. Well, two things: 1. I don't think a lefty is really necessary in a starting rotation. 2. Don't forget Steven Matz. 1. Personally, I agree. But someone familiar with the Mets thinking might be thinking otherwise. 2. I will never forget Mr. Matz. But Matz for Niese in the rotation? I'll believe that when I see it. I figure short of an amputation Niese is in. But we do have all of Sept and I could be severely wrong.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:38 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

WOOHOOOOOCEDPEDESBOOOOOM

themetfairy Sep 01 2015 06:39 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

[bigpurple:24q96sus]Cespedes!!!![/bigpurple:24q96sus]

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 06:40 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

[list]Dear Phillies, We're thinking of contesting this game after all. What do you think? Love, Mets[/list:u]

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:41 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

He looked so bad on that bad swing, then was grabbing his back like maybe he hurt his back on the swing, and then he launches one into orbit. The pitch couldn't have been any fatter either. TY Harang. 6-4

Lefty Specialist Sep 01 2015 06:42 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Boy, when Cespedes hits 'em, they stay hit.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 06:47 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Jon, we're putting Parnell in for you. Give him your beard.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 06:54 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Murphy should have come off the bag. Colllins should have called on Reed.

Lefty Specialist Sep 01 2015 06:54 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I hate beards.

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 06:55 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Almost time for the "Memories of Bobby Parnell" thread.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:55 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 01 2015 07:02 PM

This is the end. My old friend, the end.... Anyone hear Howie talking about Parnell from the heart? Sad to see.

cooby Sep 01 2015 06:56 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Lefty Specialist wrote: I hate beards. Yeah what is with these ugly beards?

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 06:56 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Lefty Specialist wrote: I hate beards. Strap Niese and Parnell to a clubhouse bench and dry shave them.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 06:57 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Ashie62 wrote: Almost time for the "Memories of Bobby Parnell" thread. I don't think so.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 06:57 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

O'Flaherty in for Parnell. Frying pan. Fire. Go Cardinals!

Zvon Sep 01 2015 06:57 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Ashie62 wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: I hate beards. Strap Niese and Parnell to a clubhouse bench and dry shave them. Hahaha, both of em.

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 06:58 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

cooby wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: I hate beards. Yeah what is with these ugly beards? Football players identify themselves with tattoos, baseball guys with beards IMHO

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 06:58 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Let's get O'Flaherty in there against a righty who's been pounding Niese. That makes... sense?

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 06:59 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Playoffs? You want to talk playoffs??? Thank you Mora and Edwards.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:04 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Those losers can't even clear the bases on a bases loaded double that should have cleared 'em.

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 07:07 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

This is embarrassing.

Ashie62 Sep 01 2015 07:08 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

This one is done. Later.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 07:14 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

6-4 looked so promising, and then....

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:14 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I have already gone on record saying that if we comeback in this one I will streak up and down my street.

themetfairy Sep 01 2015 07:16 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

No Schaefer For Dead-Armed Men....

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:16 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

d'Kong76 wrote: 6-4 looked so promising, and then.... For those who want to crucify TC for using Parnell there, didn't we have to find out if Bobby was going to be any use going forward? This was the Phils. He should have been able to put up a clean inning. Unfortunately, I think we just witnessed the end of Parnell's career, and that's a shame.

Fman99 Sep 01 2015 07:19 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Parnell and O'Flaherty are real win repellant.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 07:20 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

"This is one of those games where you say, 'OK, guys, don't worry about taking pitches; get to rippin'. The only way you're going to get back in the game is to swing the bats.'" Keith, I disagree. And I probably would've disagreed even if I didn't just see the Phillies score eight runs on three hits.

themetfairy Sep 01 2015 07:22 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Zvon wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: 6-4 looked so promising, and then.... For those who want to crucify TC for using Parnell there, didn't we have to find out if Bobby was going to be any use going forward? This was the Phils. He should have been able to put up a clean inning. Unfortunately, I think we just witnessed the end of Parnell's career, and that's a shame. This....

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 07:24 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Zvon wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: 6-4 looked so promising, and then.... For those who want to crucify TC for using Parnell there I ain't crucifying anyone, tell it to your buddy with the dry razor.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:27 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

d'Kong76 wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: 6-4 looked so promising, and then.... For those who want to crucify TC for using Parnell there I ain't crucifying anyone, tell it to your buddy with the dry razor. lol, sorry. I was reacting to other stuff I was reading thru the wonders of social media. I shouldn't have started that with your quote but it set me thinking.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:34 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Zvon wrote: Zvon wrote: 6-4 looked so promising, and then.... For those who want to crucify TC for using Parnell there I ain't crucifying anyone, tell it to your buddy with the dry razor. lol, sorry. I was reacting to other stuff I was reading thru the wonders of social media. I shouldn't have started that with your quote but it set me thinking. The consensus is that after just inching in the direction of a comeback @ 6-4, this was not the spot to test Parnell. I say, then when would that spot be?

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 07:38 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Mets leadoff hitters since 2010. Reyes, Grandy, Cowgill, Brown, and Garry Matthews, Jr., and... Tejada?

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 07:40 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Oooh, Torres. That means Pagan must be another.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:43 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Niiiiice. Cestriplet! Glad I didn't turn the game off ( like I would ever turn a Mets game off. ComeONNN!)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 01 2015 07:44 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Larry Anderson on the Phillies broadcast just relayed that the 1st time he opposed the Mets it wasn't at Shea bit at MFY Stadium. "They were renovating Shea," he said.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 07:46 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I remember my first beer, Larry.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:47 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Larry Anderson on the Phillies broadcast just relayed that the 1st time he opposed the Mets it wasn't at Shea bit at MFY Stadium. "They were renovating Shea," he said. So his brain sucks as bad as his broadcasting. WRIGHT DOUBLES! Woo, that was ripped. 14-6

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 07:48 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Murph, you should be home.

Fman99 Sep 01 2015 07:50 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Larry Anderson on the Phillies broadcast just relayed that the 1st time he opposed the Mets it wasn't at Shea bit at MFY Stadium. "They were renovating Shea," he said. Larry Andersen can eat Honey Smacks™ out of my asshole.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 07:52 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Fman99 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Larry Anderson on the Phillies broadcast just relayed that the 1st time he opposed the Mets it wasn't at Shea bit at MFY Stadium. "They were renovating Shea," he said. Larry Andersen can eat Honey Smacks™ out of my asshole. I wouldn't even afford him the extra flavor.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 01 2015 07:57 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I think I don't need to see Carlos Torrez ever again.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 07:58 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Torres has been a big part of the 2015 Mets. You would miss him in a day. And he sure doesn't deserve conflation with Mike Torrez.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 01 2015 07:59 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

cooby wrote: Nope, Lewes....never mind :) But how is Lewes? We've often wondered Great place to camp. Tent sites in soft pine forest, short walk/ride to the ocean. Downtown Lewes cute in an old east coast town kinda way.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 08:01 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Meant to post this for the stretch and then forgot... [youtube:1ycy5nx5]Gs069dndIYk[/youtube:1ycy5nx5]

Zvon Sep 01 2015 08:04 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: I think I don't need to see Carlos Torrez ever again. He's just gassed. We need to see him rested.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 08:11 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Are there unicorn loss games? Mets down by a touchdown.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 08:14 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Man, that place emptied out pretty fast. I like that the people in the cheaper seats are sticking it out. There's your true Mets fans.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 08:18 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Krazy Keef doing play-by-play.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 08:25 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Campbell, great to see you again. Follow that thing up, Juanito.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 08:26 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Zvon wrote: The consensus is that after just inching in the direction of a comeback @ 6-4, this was not the spot to test Parnell. I say, then when would that spot be? How about in a game where the margin is much greater than two runs?

Zvon Sep 01 2015 08:26 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Ha! Phils braintrust sucks.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 08:27 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Tying run on quadruple deck. Let's go, Mets!

apmorris Sep 01 2015 08:33 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Zvon Sep 01 2015 08:34 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Zvon wrote: The consensus is that after just inching in the direction of a comeback @ 6-4, this was not the spot to test Parnell. I say, then when would that spot be? How about in a game where the margin is much greater than two runs? That's the other side of it. And sure. But I'd have wanted to see if we could use Parnell in the clutch, put him in that spot. Sometimes a player will find a little something extra in a big spot. And all he had to do was keep it where it was. I dunno, I just don't hang this on TC. I figured this for a loss before Parnell came in. And we know that Parnell might never again be Bobby of old (surely not this season) and that he might not be good enough to be a pure "pitcher", and that's a shame. I wanted 2 of 3 here vs the Phils. Flush this one. Tomorrow we go get em.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 08:36 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Ha! Phillies post game is all over TC re: Parnell. Let the crucifixion begin! I'm afraid to look on fb.

Gwreck Sep 01 2015 08:57 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Edgy MD wrote: Mets leadoff hitters since 2010. Reyes, Grandy, Cowgill, Brown, and Garry Matthews, Jr., and... Tejada? ' Didn't Alex Cora lead off on opening day 2010?

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 09:13 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Yeah, my answers were imperfectly guessed.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 09:52 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I'm trying to stay open to the idea that Terry is savvy in ways I can't comprehend — that a lifetime of wisdom and a keen eye for practical application of comprehensive data feeds into choices like batting Cespedes second and Kelly Johnson fifth — but the decision to go to Parnell and O'Flaherty first out of the pen has me flummoxed. The former is returning from the disabled list in relation to a dubious injury following a bout of self-destruction. The latter has been lost as well, and if he's ever going to be found, it's best to try and get him into lefty-on-lefty match-ups. That the team should hit their way back out a hole only to put the game in these hands puzzles me, as it seems neither beneficial for the team nor the pitchers. Terry openly stated before the game that he wanted to work Gilmartin and Reed in tonight and, well, there was his chance. Nice little lead your team has built up, Terry, but it's too early to coast, if that indeed is what's going on. I thought I knew his game. But 2015 Terry has been an enigma.

MFS62 Sep 01 2015 09:57 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Edgy MD wrote: Nice little lead your team has built up, Terry, but it's too early to coast, if that indeed is what's going on. I thought I knew his game. But 2015 Terry has been an enigma. There's a difference between in-game moves (tactics) and managing people. Joe Torre showed he couldn't cope with in game nuances of managing in the National League, When he moved to the clubhouse in the Bronx, the back pages of the NY newspapers called him 'Clueless Joe". But with fewer in-game decisions (mostly because of the DH rule, but also because he had Mariano Rivera) he could spend his time on the off the field part of the job, and he did it very well. At a Company I worked for, someone made a disparaging comment a secretary. The Director heard it and immediately called a meeting. He said (I paraphrase) "There's nothing I do on a daily basis that the secretary couldn't do. But there are several times a year when I have to make a difficult decision. And it on those decisions that the difference in our salaries is based". I look at Terry the same way. He robotically manages "by the book" during most of the season. But I'm still not sure whether I trust his judgment in those special spots. Later

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 10:05 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

I would say that I don't see his approach as operating by the book.

Centerfield Sep 01 2015 10:10 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Edgy MD wrote: I'm trying to stay open to the idea that Terry is savvy in ways I can't comprehend — that a lifetime of wisdom and a keen eye for practical application of comprehensive data feeds into choices like batting Cespedes second and Kelly Johnson fifth — but the decision to go to Parnell and O'Flaherty first out of the pen has me flummoxed. The former is returning from the disabled list in relation to a dubious injury following a bout of self-destruction. The latter has been lost as well, and if he's ever going to be found, it's best to try and get him into lefty-on-lefty match-ups. That the team should hit their way back out a hole only to put the game in these hands puzzles me, as it seems neither beneficial for the team nor the pitchers. Terry openly stated before the game that he wanted to work Gilmartin and Reed in tonight and, well, there was his chance. Nice little lead your team has built up, Terry, but it's too early to coast, if that indeed is what's going on. I thought I knew his game. But 2015 Terry has been an enigma. Yup. The team put up a 4 spot. Get your best guy out there and get back in the dugout. This was a very winnable game. I can see the logic in wanting to get Parnell in a high leverage situation, but start him in a low leverage situation first. And as RD said in another thread, the only good time to pitch O'Flaherty is about 5:15 p.m.

Zvon Sep 01 2015 10:33 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Centerfield wrote: I'm trying to stay open to the idea that Terry is savvy in ways I can't comprehend — that a lifetime of wisdom and a keen eye for practical application of comprehensive data feeds into choices like batting Cespedes second and Kelly Johnson fifth — but the decision to go to Parnell and O'Flaherty first out of the pen has me flummoxed. The former is returning from the disabled list in relation to a dubious injury following a bout of self-destruction. The latter has been lost as well, and if he's ever going to be found, it's best to try and get him into lefty-on-lefty match-ups. That the team should hit their way back out a hole only to put the game in these hands puzzles me, as it seems neither beneficial for the team nor the pitchers. Terry openly stated before the game that he wanted to work Gilmartin and Reed in tonight and, well, there was his chance. Nice little lead your team has built up, Terry, but it's too early to coast, if that indeed is what's going on. I thought I knew his game. But 2015 Terry has been an enigma. Yup. The team put up a 4 spot. Get your best guy out there and get back in the dugout. This was a very winnable game. I can see the logic in wanting to get Parnell in a high leverage situation, but start him in a low leverage situation first. And as RD said in another thread, the only good time to pitch O'Flaherty is about 5:15 p.m. lol @ Flahjoke. I'm gonna use that. I didn't actually see the Parnell inning. I did partially hear Howie on the radio and he was so busy pulling a Wilmer Flores in Bobby's regard that I didn't know the details, like how many balls Bobby threw in a row. Last I heard Rose was yelling that he threw it away, on the play at first. I assumed that was Parnell but I'm not sure. Reception was fuzzy. I'm gonna go watch it now. Maybe he did leave Parnell in too long, and using Parnell & then Flaherty back to back is worse than waving a white flag, but still I'll give TC some decent slack. If we don't take tomorrows game I might start feeling different. We just gotta take two of three vs. these guys, I don't care how and I don't care in what order. And if Parnell and uh-O' are rotten eggs, find out and get em out of the basket. If Terry hasn't come to this conclusion I might be swayed to the dark side.

Nymr83 Sep 01 2015 10:53 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Cardinals defeat the hated Nationals, who actually led 4-0 early. Feels really good to not lose a game in the standings tonight. Nationals must be ready to pack their bags and go play golf, to be up 4-0, see the Mets get smoked, and still suck like that and lose.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 11:04 PM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Zvon wrote: And if Parnell and uh-O' are rotten eggs, find out and get em out of the basket. If Terry hasn't come to this conclusion I might be swayed to the dark side. It seems to me that there are plenty of other ways and times to find out.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 02 2015 06:57 AM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Okay, the Mets were down 6-0, and Terry probably had Parnell warming up because a game with a six-run deficit is a realistic time to give him an inning to see what he can do. But when the Mets scored four runs, Terry should have shifted gears. It's now a two-run game, and momentum is in the Mets favor, but Terry brings in a pitcher who had a 7.71 ERA in August. When that doesn't work out, he substitutes a pitcher who had a 12.86 ERA in August. The third pitcher of the inning is a guy who had a 5.91 ERA in August. He was managing that inning like a guy who had money on the Phillies.

cooby Sep 02 2015 07:00 AM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

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Lefty Specialist Sep 02 2015 07:21 AM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Okay, the Mets were down 6-0, and Terry probably had Parnell warming up because a game with a six-run deficit is a realistic time to give him an inning to see what he can do. But when the Mets scored four runs, Terry should have shifted gears. It's now a two-run game, and momentum is in the Mets favor, but Terry brings in a pitcher who had a 7.71 ERA in August. When that doesn't work out, he substitutes a pitcher who had a 12.86 ERA in August. The third pitcher of the inning is a guy who had a 5.91 ERA in August. He was managing that inning like a guy who had money on the Phillies. Well, it's a good point. Garbage time is when you should get Parnell up, and they were looking at 4 innings to fill. But he should have shifted. One thing I've always noticed is that Terry doesn't like not bringing players in after they've warmed up for a while. That's the last we'll see of Bobby P in any kind of leveraged situation, methinks.

Edgy MD Sep 02 2015 07:41 AM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Okay, the Mets were down 6-0, and Terry probably had Parnell warming up because a game with a six-run deficit is a realistic time to give him an inning to see what he can do. But when the Mets scored four runs, Terry should have shifted gears. It's now a two-run game, and momentum is in the Mets favor, but Terry brings in a pitcher who had a 7.71 ERA in August. When that doesn't work out, he substitutes a pitcher who had a 12.86 ERA in August. The third pitcher of the inning is a guy who had a 5.91 ERA in August. He was managing that inning like a guy who had money on the Phillies. Oooh. Maybe we're on to something.

seawolf17 Sep 02 2015 07:43 AM Re: Exogen Temporal Thermometers presents 9/1/15 IGT

Lefty Specialist wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Okay, the Mets were down 6-0, and Terry probably had Parnell warming up because a game with a six-run deficit is a realistic time to give him an inning to see what he can do. But when the Mets scored four runs, Terry should have shifted gears. It's now a two-run game, and momentum is in the Mets favor, but Terry brings in a pitcher who had a 7.71 ERA in August. When that doesn't work out, he substitutes a pitcher who had a 12.86 ERA in August. The third pitcher of the inning is a guy who had a 5.91 ERA in August. He was managing that inning like a guy who had money on the Phillies. Well, it's a good point. Garbage time is when you should get Parnell up, and they were looking at 4 innings to fill. But he should have shifted. One thing I've always noticed is that Terry doesn't like not bringing players in after they've warmed up for a while. That's the last we'll see of Bobby P in any kind of leveraged situation, methinks. Agree. Gary made the point last night that the organization wants Parnell to succeed -- duh -- but he looked lost out there. He was so visibly frustrated after the second walk, you had to get him out of there. Stall if you have to, have Warthen walk slowly, whatever -- but you knew he was toast.