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Everything's Coming Up Mets
batmagadanleadoff Aug 24 2015 10:51 AM |
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The Mets are the lead story in this week's Grantland's 30.
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Farmer Ted Aug 24 2015 11:50 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
We knew they would pitch. But did we know they would pitch and hit, too?
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 24 2015 12:33 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2015 12:46 PM |
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I've come around to really like Terry Collins. He's not the best tactician out there, or even among the best Mets managers tactics-wise. His bullpen usage drives me crazy -- but you know what? -- so would the bullpen usage of just about every other manager out there. But I dig Collins's feistiness. And I root for him because he's an underdog, dealt a terrible hand --- playing out his entire tenure under the foregone conclusion that he'd be gone as soon as the Mets turned the corner. You think he likes that? What major league manager wants to be a placeholder? But the Mets poverty might've been the silver lining in Collins's cloud: he's probably still here only because of the Mets embarrassing financial situation. But he's survived the whole Madoff lolMets era, the low point, perhaps on that fiasco of a recent evening when he was left in the dark and kept Flores in the game even though the Mets had "traded" Flores. And when he's in a good mood, he's got one of the best smiles on the team. Really. [fimg=433]https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/collins.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=355]https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/13-1s077-kernan1-300x300.jpg[/fimg]
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TransMonk Aug 24 2015 12:42 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I'm Collins-neutral. But that is a step up from where I was on him just a few weeks ago and at the beginning of the season.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 24 2015 12:46 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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I'm pretty neutral on him too. I won't be upset if he doesn't come back next year (although I think he probably will) and I won't be upset if he does.
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Lefty Specialist Aug 24 2015 01:27 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Collins was the guy they chose to keep the lights on and not make a fuss with Sandy or the Wilpons. It's a task he's performed admirably.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 24 2015 01:31 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
There have been times when the team has looked pretty dead. There was one year (last year, maybe, or 2013) on or around Father's Day when I heard him sounding so defeated I was sure he was about to be fired. Of course, the Mets recovered from whatever that was. I'm pretty sure Terry comes back unless the season ends in a humiliating collapse. (And that kind of thing never happens, does it?)
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Ceetar Aug 24 2015 01:54 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I could see Terry 'retiring' after a WS victory, but I think that's the most likely outcome.
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Frayed Knot Aug 24 2015 01:55 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
btw, 15-8 if you start counting with that cock-punch 'Upton game' in the rain - and seven of those eight losses have been either in extra innings (twice) and/or by one run. IOW, they've been in every game.
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G-Fafif Aug 24 2015 02:37 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Terry: the guy from work who sometimes you roll your eyes at as he leaves, sometimes you think he's not so bad -- he may even kind of know what he's doing.
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Zvon Aug 24 2015 03:27 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
As you may have noticed by now I pretty much back up any manager we have. Sometimes they can put themselves on the fence but they'd really have to fuck up to fall on the "fire him!" side. I think the last manager I totally trashed was Howe and that took awhile before I could see he did not fit in well. Collins I like on a few levels and I hope regardless of how this season ends he is able to return.
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Edgy MD Aug 24 2015 03:31 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
That's a forgotten story: Some video of a guy sitting alone in his section talking to a Mister Met hand puppet, if I recall correctly.
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Zvon Aug 24 2015 03:47 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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I believe you do. I thought we'd do the puppet thing all season but it puttered out pretty fast. I bet I have some I never even posted. Here's 7 of em and I have at least 20 in a folder. [fimg=400]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RmN1PiH7CVE/VduO9GluVeI/AAAAAAAAeLI/e2o-NPkyYic/s912-Ic42/20120618_kkt_aw8_068.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=400]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cecDdyoq4Eo/VduO81K67-I/AAAAAAAAeMs/a2DExsw1-o4/s912-Ic42/20120612_pjc_sx7_256.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=400]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p3ETrFJ4FHE/VduO8y43ZfI/AAAAAAAAeMw/3B5d2uXbsRU/s800-Ic42/20120506_jla_ag9_132.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=400]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SfVqMODVcrI/VduRlOgZ7fI/AAAAAAAAeNE/OolDQPPdaX4/s594-Ic42/puppet%252520argu001.png[/fimg]
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Fman99 Aug 24 2015 07:36 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2015 07:41 PM |
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It was a guy I spotted in the upper deck at Citi Field, sometime in 2012-ish, talking to a Mr. Met hand puppet in very hushed tones. I managed to snap a photo of him as well. He had a CPF alias here for a spell, if I recall. I hope he comes back to enjoy the Mets this year (comes back to the Citi, that is, and his alias returning to the CPF to whisper sweet nothings to his mascot-anus-lovin-hand).
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Fman99 Aug 24 2015 07:41 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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Edgy MD Aug 24 2015 07:52 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
2012. My hero for a while there.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 25 2015 10:43 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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I was about to post something along these lines, only less, y'know, dead-on. There you go. Terry's got a nice smile, and the guys seem to like him, mostly, and the guys who don't are guys who you probably don't want working for you for long, right? In dark times, I sometimes wonder whether Gil would've ended up as this guy, had he lived a bit longer.
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Edgy MD Aug 25 2015 10:51 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I don't know. Terry's a small man in a land of giants and has to force himself upon people. Gil was probably as big as anybody in the room well after his career ended, and he was a self-assured marine. He had gravitational force that Terry perhaps never could have. And a moral authority along with it.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 25 2015 11:27 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Or Mickey Rooney.
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Edgy MD Aug 25 2015 11:30 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Hey, let's be fair. We all know Tommy Lasorda is the Mickey Rooney of managers.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 25 2015 11:34 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Okay, how about Ron Carey?
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Edgy MD Aug 25 2015 11:49 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
We're going for Western hero analogies here, man.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 25 2015 11:53 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2015 12:39 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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We're gonna need a bigger bandwagon if this amazingness continues.
http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2015/0 ... an_no.html
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TheOldMole Aug 27 2015 01:52 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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Lefty Specialist Aug 27 2015 02:02 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I never had a problem with Chipper. He was an honest competitor and wasn't a jerk about it, he just went out there and beat them, repeatedly. He reveled in the 'Larrrrrrry' calls he was serenaded with.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 27 2015 02:13 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I never had a problem with Chipper either. If he's seen the light and wants to be a Mets fan, then he's more than welcome. (Invite him to the forum NOW!)
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metsmarathon Aug 27 2015 02:18 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
he named hte kid shea because he loved playing at shea stadium and enjoyed great succes there, hence his love for hte facility. and presumably the energy that mets fans filled it with, but who knows. i think it's mostly for his successes there.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 27 2015 02:20 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Chip's a dumb jock but always been OK in my book.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 27 2015 02:22 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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seawolf17 Aug 27 2015 02:42 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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This. I have great respect for Chipper; he damn well earned every boo we gave him, but he was never obnoxious, never rude, and in retirement, has been a great dude. I'm all in on Larry.
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TransMonk Aug 27 2015 02:56 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I had no love for Chipper in the late-90s, but I have really warmed up to him. He's hard not to like now that he is not tormenting me with nearly every AB.
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Mets – Willets Point Aug 28 2015 08:29 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I think it's going to be great when his Hall of Fame plaque is revealed because it will say:
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Ceetar Aug 28 2015 08:31 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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a group crowd response of "Hi Larry" would be great when he's introduced.
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 28 2015 11:19 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
[fimg=644:2tf7et04]http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/nats-cover.jpg[/fimg:2tf7et04]
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Gwreck Aug 28 2015 12:15 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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Not exactly. "Take the two series between the teams in September 1999. In the first, Jones combined for four home runs and seven RBI to lead the Braves to a sweep in Atlanta. In the second, the Braves won two out of three at Shea Stadium, seemingly ending the Mets' playoff hopes. Jones infamously said afterward: 'Now all the Mets fans can go home and put their Yankee stuff on.'" Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240 ... 4170173092
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Ceetar Aug 28 2015 12:22 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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Supposedly he was referencing one of those idiots that was wearing one of those stupid half-Mets half-Yankees jerseys
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d'Kong76 Aug 28 2015 12:29 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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Don't remember that one. Ouch! Gotta love that he named his daughter Shea.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2015 12:32 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I wasn't offended by that. I wouldn't expect him to know that Mets fans and Yankee fans are distinct species.
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Ceetar Aug 28 2015 12:33 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/19/sports/baseball/19chipper.html?_r=CranePoolForum
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d'Kong76 Aug 28 2015 12:34 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Not offended, but it's a pretty good zinger.
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Frayed Knot Aug 28 2015 12:52 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Never offended either.
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Gwreck Aug 28 2015 01:00 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Oh, I agree. Villains in sports are great.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 28 2015 01:07 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
There's nothing wrong with respecting your opponent, especially in retrospect. Willie Stargell didn't hit all those home runs off the Mets because he was evil. He was a baseball player trying to help his team win. Same with Mike Schmidt and Chipper Jones. And someday I'll be willing to say the same about Ryan Howard.
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cooby Aug 28 2015 05:11 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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Absolutely, positively will never happen for me.
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Gwreck Aug 28 2015 05:16 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
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Funny, I've never had a problem with Howard at all. He always struck me as a likeable player. Utley, Werth, Victorino or Ruiz, however? Not a chance.
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Edgy MD Aug 28 2015 08:37 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I had nothing against most of them. Victorino, maybe.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 28 2015 11:26 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
I rooted against Chipper, but I'd never, say, feel schadenfreude about a significant Chipper career setback. I think it's the pro-wrestling-loving kid in me, but yeah, I enjoyed our villains.
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MFS62 Aug 29 2015 06:34 PM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
The only thing that has been coming up the last two days has been my dinner.
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G-Fafif Sep 15 2015 04:50 AM Re: Everything's Coming Up Mets |
Nice article in the Times on how the Mets are Taking Back New York. Area fan quoted a couple of times therein.
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