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Ceetar Sep 01 2015 01:34 PM

7. Bartender: Usually a buck - the last time I was at a bar was at a friends wedding... you need to get out more. I thought of a more gray area Bartender one. Breweries. Even not-tiny breweries generally have an intern or lacky doing the pouring, but I've definitely been to breweries where the brewer or owner is serving me. Seems weird to tip them, but on the other hand you're often getting a fair amount of cheap/free beer at most of these places.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 02:09 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

7. Bartender: I tip them. For preparing my drink, even if it is just to take the cap off my beer. I have no idea how to tip these guys. A buck a drink? This is the absolutely easiest one ever. A buck a drink. There are other intricacies but that will never fail you. Generally a $1 for a soda and a boughtback drink as well. Toss in an extra buck or two if say you're newish to the craft beer scene and he double as a Cicerone (Sommelier, concierge, etc), but not if all he says "oh, this one's kinda like blue moon". If you're gonna be sitting at the bar for a while, can't hurt to tip $5 or so on the first one so he pays attention to you. Nothing sucks more than waiting for him to get you another drink while he hovers down at the other end of the bar. Easy, perhaps, except I was throwing in a buck a drink 25 years ago.

Ceetar Sep 01 2015 02:13 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

probably getting cheated back then. Even in the 'expensive' places, $2 would easily be 25%. that's too much. Though I guess if you're ordering $16 custom martinis made with locally infused gin and muddled with the a vintage piece of wood from a barrel that served liquor back during prohibition...

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 02:19 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

That's EXACTLY what I'm ordering.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 02:26 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I'm not a gin martini guy, but an olive or two sounds a lot more appetizing than a vintage piece of wood from a barrel?

Ceetar Sep 01 2015 02:29 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

d'Kong76 wrote: I'm not a gin martini guy, but an olive or two sounds a lot more appetizing than a vintage piece of wood from a barrel? oh, but the muddling of the olives with the wood imparts this wonderful smokiness.

dgwphotography Sep 01 2015 02:44 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

7. Bartender: Usually a buck - the last time I was at a bar was at a friends wedding... you need to get out more. Well, Since I leave the house for work around 7:30 in the morning, get home between 7 and 7:30 at night, and I rarely drink, I don't see the need to become a barfly...

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 02:57 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Ceetar could have commented similarly on my response to the bar question: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't think I've set foot in a bar in over twenty years.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2015 02:58 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

dgwphotography wrote: ...and I rarely drink, I don't see the need to become a barfly... $16 a pop martinis garnished with antique lumber is another!

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 03:14 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I prefer rusted nails and old shoelaces in my beverages.

Ceetar Sep 01 2015 03:18 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Ceetar could have commented similarly on my response to the bar question: I don't think I've set foot in a bar in over twenty years. yeah, but I read his last. ;-) haha. I'm pro-bar and pro-working less as a rule. Hyperbolic descriptions of expensive delicately crafted martinis aside, they are making some cool things these days.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 03:27 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I agree with the "working less" philosophy.

cooby Sep 01 2015 03:28 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Only had two martinis in my life. One was at the beach this summer....watery. One was at Metfairy and D-Dad's house (D-Dad being the bartender). Exquisite!

themetfairy Sep 01 2015 03:37 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

And no tip was necessary (yes, D-Dad mixes a nice martini!).

cooby Sep 01 2015 05:32 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

:)

Ashie62 Sep 02 2015 05:03 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I used to tip bartenders at the neighborhood bar based on how many free beers I got that night. Most of the other stuff is yes and 20%.

soupcan Sep 02 2015 06:52 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Ceetar could have commented similarly on my response to the bar question: I don't think I've set foot in a bar in over twenty years. yeah, but I read his last. ;-) haha. I'm pro-bar and pro-working less as a rule. Hyperbolic descriptions of expensive delicately crafted martinis aside, they are making some cool things these days. Seriously? Roasted marshmallows on a martini? Is that a candy store or a bar? I feel the same about craft beers as well. Pumpkin? Coffee? Why? What's wrong with a porter or an IPA? All that fancy crap is to get suckers to buy drinks that wouldn't otherwise buy them. They put as much crap in the alcohol to not not make it taste like alcohol. What's the point of putting an expensive vodka in a mixed drink if you can't taste the vodka? I don't drink mixed drinks unless I'm at the beach and the piņa coladas are strong enough so that I can't feel the sunburn. I drink bourbon or rye neat. Occasionally I'll have a Manhattan but that's only if I know the establishment and I know they know how to make it.

Ceetar Sep 02 2015 07:26 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

soupcan wrote: Seriously? Roasted marshmallows on a martini? Is that a candy store or a bar? I feel the same about craft beers as well. Pumpkin? Coffee? Why? What's wrong with a porter or an IPA? All that fancy crap is to get suckers to buy drinks that wouldn't otherwise buy them. They put as much crap in the alcohol to not not make it taste like alcohol. What's the point of putting an expensive vodka in a mixed drink if you can't taste the vodka? I don't drink mixed drinks unless I'm at the beach and the piņa coladas are strong enough so that I can't feel the sunburn. I drink bourbon or rye neat. Occasionally I'll have a Manhattan but that's only if I know the establishment and I know they know how to make it. I could go on and on that maybe it's worth a split. Because it tastes good? All those drinks in those shots were delicious and well crafted, and you could taste the alcohol in some of them. Why not? I like Smores, why not a smores with some kick? I like those flavors. Yes, actually pulling out a torch and setting marshmellows on fire on your drink is gimmicky, as is putting cotton candy in the glass and pouring the liquid over, but that was Vegas and that sorta showmanship is what makes it fun. You use the expensive vodka so it doesn't impart taste (because Vodka generally doesn't) and because just the alcohol adds something to the drink's complexion. You probably don't need to use the $50 bottle instead of the $20 bottle for most things, but part of that's upselling and marketing. Which is to be expected when you're out as compared to making things yourself at home. same with the beer. Because it's delicious. The roastiness of the coffee pairs well with the roasted malts of the stout (it's even a similar process!) Big Luscious from Foundres, a chocolate raspberry ale, is amazing. it's an afterdinner cordial rolled into a beer. Sure, it doesn't have the same place as a standard IPA or a glass of bourbon, but it's still tasty. It's like saying why eat a hamburger when steak exists? Variety! Sure, some people have one go-to alcohol, but some of us like to mix it up. Rich bourbony porters, light fruity witbiers, spicy margaritas, moscow mules... And that there are more and more places dedicated to well-constructed mixed drinks is amazing and awesome. Like you said, you wouldn't drink a Manhattan if you didn't trust the person making it. Well, all the drinks in my photo above were mixed by trained individuals, some of them having won awards for cocktails. That menu isn't about "we need to list some mixed drinks for the mixed drink crowd and because we're a bar" It's a show, a portfolio. It's not the list of entrees at Applebees, it's the chef's menu at a fancy restaurant.

themetfairy Sep 02 2015 07:33 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Some of us find porters and IPAs undrinkable. Not that I would necessarily drink that cream-filled, marshmallow-topped drink. But the diverse offerings these days are appealing to people who simply don't like the more traditional beers and drinks. And pumpkin beer is awesome. If you don't like it then I'll trade you some of that hoppy shit and I'll take yours.

seawolf17 Sep 02 2015 07:34 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

1. Barber: I buzz mine myself now, but I used to give my guy $2 on a $10 cut. 2. Taxi: I rarely take cabs -- I'm a public transit guy -- but if necessary, I'll add the standard 15%. 3. Parking Garage Attendant: Don't know that I've ever tipped, but I rarely use them. 4. Delivery Guy for Items on Which I Have Paid for Delivery: Nope. 5. Full Service Gas Attendant: Also nope. 6. Cable Installation Guy: Nope. 7. Bartender: I don't know that I've ever had more than one or two beers a night, so I'll usually throw in a buck or two depending on the price of the drink. 8. The Cup Next to the Cash Register at Starbucks/Dunkin Donuts/etc: Sometimes my change if I'm paying cash.

Edgy MD Sep 02 2015 07:37 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Beware. Candy-flavored drinks, while possibly a delight to all, are particularly meant to attract shallow, consciously attractive women, so that they may attract foolish men and make them play terribly loose with their wallets.

soupcan Sep 02 2015 07:44 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Ceetar wrote: I could go on and on that maybe it's worth a split. Because it tastes good? All those drinks in those shots were delicious and well crafted, and you could taste the alcohol in some of them. Why not? I like Smores, why not a smores with some kick? I like those flavors. Yes, actually pulling out a torch and setting marshmellows on fire on your drink is gimmicky, as is putting cotton candy in the glass and pouring the liquid over, but that was Vegas and that sorta showmanship is what makes it fun. You use the expensive vodka so it doesn't impart taste (because Vodka generally doesn't) and because just the alcohol adds something to the drink's complexion. You probably don't need to use the $50 bottle instead of the $20 bottle for most things, but part of that's upselling and marketing. Which is to be expected when you're out as compared to making things yourself at home. same with the beer. Because it's delicious. The roastiness of the coffee pairs well with the roasted malts of the stout (it's even a similar process!) Big Luscious from Foundres, a chocolate raspberry ale, is amazing. it's an afterdinner cordial rolled into a beer. Sure, it doesn't have the same place as a standard IPA or a glass of bourbon, but it's still tasty. It's like saying why eat a hamburger when steak exists? Variety! Sure, some people have one go-to alcohol, but some of us like to mix it up. Rich bourbony porters, light fruity witbiers, spicy margaritas, moscow mules... And that there are more and more places dedicated to well-constructed mixed drinks is amazing and awesome. Like you said, you wouldn't drink a Manhattan if you didn't trust the person making it. Well, all the drinks in my photo above were mixed by trained individuals, some of them having won awards for cocktails. That menu isn't about "we need to list some mixed drinks for the mixed drink crowd and because we're a bar" It's a show, a portfolio. It's not the list of entrees at Applebees, it's the chef's menu at a fancy restaurant. I get it, they taste good, but why bother with the alcohol then? You even said "and you could taste the alcohol in some of them." SOME of them? If you want a root beer float, then order a root beer float. It's not like you're gonna get a buzz if there's so little alcohol that you can't taste it.

soupcan Sep 02 2015 07:45 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

And please don't think I'm being hostile, I'm not. If we were sitting at a bar having this convo, we'd be having a nice time. It may come off different in the form of the written word here and I don't want you think I'm being a dick about it.

themetfairy Sep 02 2015 07:47 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Did you read the ingredients in those drinks? You feel the alcohol - they definitely pack a punch!

cooby Sep 02 2015 07:52 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I agree about the beers though. Apple beer, punkin beer, chocolate beer? Make mine a Yuengling.

cooby Sep 02 2015 07:55 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Wow maybe we need a drinking thread. BTW, if you want a tasty non alcoholic drink, at PF Chang's they have this drink with coconut milk and pineapple, yum yum.

themetfairy Sep 02 2015 07:56 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I LOVE pumpkin beer!

cooby Sep 02 2015 07:57 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

lol, that pumpkin head and his counterpart apple head freak me out! LOL!

sharpie Sep 02 2015 08:10 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Sorry, vodka martinis are not martinis. Gin, vermouth and either an olive or a twist are the only acceptable ingredients in a martini, although orange bitters can be an interesting addition. I agree, this really should be in a separate drinking thread.

Ceetar Sep 02 2015 08:19 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

soupcan wrote: And please don't think I'm being hostile, I'm not. If we were sitting at a bar having this convo, we'd be having a nice time. It may come off different in the form of the written word here and I don't want you think I'm being a dick about it. not at all. Same on this side, just something I happen to be passionate about. You're entitled to drink and enjoy what you like. Some people only drink Bud Light. But those people, almost exclusively, aren't drinking for nuance of flavor. For some, the buzz is important. Go out, have a good time, get loose, etc. Vegas baby! I think there's a false presumption that as we get older we stop liking sweet things and graduate towards other tastes. Not for me certainly, and i won't begrudge an adult that wants a glass of milk or apple juice or a 'kids drink'. So it tastes like smores, or apple juice, or Starburst(The red drink with the foam in the photo. )It was sooo good. The dragonfruit rum cut any sweetness from the syrup. It really was more a fruity rum drink with a little bit of sweetness added. Taste the booze? well, it doesn't taste like burning the way a martini would. Even a well-crafted margarita doesn't really taste like booze, it tastes like tequila, you just know that flavor to be alcohol. So some of these drinks are quite strong, and you tastes flavors that come from alcohol, Cake batter vodka for instance, just tastes sweet, it's just not the traditional flavors we're used to. you drink your booze neat, presumably because you enjoy the concentrated taste/punch that it gives, but truthfully you probably get the same flavor, and probably spread it out longer, by adding a few rocks. But sure, sometimes the alcohol is probably unnecessary. A nice lemonade doesn't need to be a lynchburg. There is some progress on the 'craft beverages that aren't alcohol' front too though. Shrubs, basically drinking vinegars, though often dismissed as 'hipster drinks' are supposed to be good. sharpie wrote: Sorry, vodka martinis are not martinis. Gin, vermouth and either an olive or a twist are the only acceptable ingredients in a martini, although orange bitters can be an interesting addition. I agree, this really should be in a separate drinking thread. Ooh, I love this discussion. 'What's a Martini' is what sportswriters call the "Is a hot dog a sandwich?" argument.

d'Kong76 Sep 02 2015 08:50 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

James Bond 007 disagrees that vodka can't be used in a martini, provided it's shaken and not stirred.

Ceetar Sep 02 2015 09:01 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

d'Kong76 wrote: James Bond 007 disagrees that vodka can't be used in a martini, provided it's shaken and not stirred. Bond in Casino Royale wrote: three measures of Gordon's; one of vodka; half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it over ice, and add a thin slice of lemon peel.

Ceetar Sep 02 2015 09:07 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

photos above were from the Cosmopolitan Las Vegas' Chandelier Bar. They also have one named Vesper (that serves a Vesper) named for Bond: (crappy picture but It was a dark lit bar in Vegas on a cellphone and I'd been drinking)

d'Kong76 Sep 02 2015 09:15 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I thought he drank vodka, but I could be mistaken. Been a long time.

sharpie Sep 02 2015 09:47 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

A vesper is a different drink. A variant of the martini. Not an actual one. Also, should be stirred, not shaken. Bond is wrong on that one. You shake when there are non-alcohol ingredients (juice, etc). If all alcohol it should be stirred (not that I'm a pedant on that score and would never tell a bartender that he/she was doing it wrong).

Ceetar Sep 02 2015 10:14 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

yeah, if it's got juice or something to fizz, you shake. (and then drink it, because it goes flat) But also if you like it colder.

d'Kong76 Sep 02 2015 10:26 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

sharpie wrote: Also, should be stirred, not shaken. Bond is wrong on that one. Bite your tongue, lad!

Centerfield Sep 02 2015 12:55 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Alcohol is awesome. And since people are diverse, the more you can shake up alcohol to make it appealing to more people the better. People are more fun when they're drinking, and since I don't have to drink whatever they are drinking, so be it. But know that if you are drinking candy-flavored fruity weird shit you are giving everyone free license to mock you. I have a friend who is very much a "guy's guy". Played football, big MFY fan, loves to golf. He doesn't like beer, but loves watermelon and leechee (sp?) martinis. We torture him non-stop, but he drinks what he drinks. My favorite drinks depending on the situation: At Home, Relaxing: Scotch. Favorites include Talisker, Glenlivet, Macallan. At a bar, watching the game: Guiness At Citifield (ok weather): Any IPA At Citifield (really hot): Coor's Light Away Games: Whatever is popular among the locals Nice Dinner: Vodka martini. Sometimes dirty, especially if it's steak. Weddings: Champagne all through cocktail hour. Switch to beer or scotch afterwards. Someplace Tropical: I will always have a pina colada to start out. I don't really like them but it is my way of celebrating that I am on vacation. I will drink fancy micro-brews, but it's just for the experience. Not a big fan of those. I don't drink wine at all. Tequila, to me, looks, smells and tastes like poison.

themetfairy Sep 02 2015 01:01 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

My favorite drinks depending on the situation: At Home, Relaxing: I have the bartender mix me up whatever I'm in the mood for. Marshmallow fluffertinis and lychee martinis are a favorite, but sometimes I'll just do something like pineapple vodka with Polar grapefruit if I want something light. At a bar, watching the game: Shock Top or Blue Moon draft At Citifield (ok weather): Shock Top draft At Citifield (really hot): Shock Top or Coor's Light draft (Coor's Light for the second, for sure) Away Games: Whatever draft is popular among the locals Nice Dinner: Pinot Grigio or Shiraz Weddings: Champagne Someplace Tropical: Rum Swizzles or Cockspur and diet soda. CF - you and D-Dad need to discuss Scotch one day. He had a scotch tasting demonstration for his birthday last year :)

Edgy MD Sep 02 2015 02:25 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Centerfield wrote: People are more fun when they're drinking ... You haven't met my family, I gather.

d'Kong76 Sep 02 2015 02:45 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

I'm sure we can all think of one or two people over the years that we'd rather not be around when they're drinking.

themetfairy Sep 02 2015 02:56 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

d'Kong76 wrote: I'm sure we can all think of one or two people over the years that we'd rather not be around when they're drinking. [youtube]PuduYMzY3Dc[/youtube]

sharpie Sep 02 2015 03:33 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

At Home, Relaxing: I make a wide variety of cocktails. If I had to choose one, I guess a Manhattan, although there are several varieties I switch between At a bar, watching the game: Depends on the bar. I might try their specialty cocktail list or have a beer. Something dark. At Citifield (ok weather): Leffe Dark has been my go-to beer this year at Citifield. At Citifield (really hot): see above Away Games: Whatever draft is popular among the locals (Metfairy's answer) is probably the right answer. I haven't been to an away game in several years. Nice Dinner: Cocktail list and/or a glass or a bottle of red Weddings: Champagne Someplace Tropical: Planter's punch. pina colada, local beer, it's all good.

Vic Sage Sep 02 2015 04:13 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

In response to the 2 different polls going on in this thread: TIPPING: 1. Barber: I pay for the haircut. I tip him extra. I have no justification for why I do this, other than everyone else does it $20 cut, $5 tip (including shampoo). 2. Taxi: I pay for the ride. I tip the driver extra. Again, I have no explanation why. If a cabbie gets me where i'm going in time to make my train/plane/show/meeting/etc., and i'm relatively unscathed, and he's got on the air conditioning, without any particularly horrific smells going on, its generally 20%, rounding up. If i get taken for a runaround, with a driver trying to run up the tab, fuck him. 3. Parking Garage Attendant: I pay for the right to park. I tip the attendant, I guess, for not crashing my car while parking it. $1 or $2 when i pick up my car. But at my regular "pre-theater" lot, i throw him a $5, so i know when i get there next time after a show and there's a crowd, he'll get me out fast. 4. Delivery Guy for Items on Which I Have Paid for Delivery: Like a couch or something. I do not think I should tip these guys and generally don't, but will do so if they go above and beyond. If it's a big thing, and then they carry out whatever it is its replacing (fridge,AC,couch, etc), i'll give them $20/man. 5. Full Service Gas Attendant: I only use full service in NJ, where it is required. I do not tip these guys, but I have seen others do it. No. just no. Although, i used to go to a self-serve station, and sometimes there was a homeless guy who would offer to pump your gas for you, and so I'd give him $1 or $2, just for showing the initiative. 6. Cable Installation Guy: I don't tip them. I have heard of others doing this . If I need him to do some re-wiring of my components or something else i need him to do extra, then $10 or something. 7. Bartender: I tip them. For preparing my drink, even if it is just to take the cap off my beer. I really don't go to bars much any more. In my day, i'd throw they guy a $5 after my first beer, just to keep them coming. 8. The Cup Next to the Cash Register at Starbucks/Dunkin Donuts/etc: I do not put bread in that jar. I don't understand why I would be expected to. Sometimes, just to rid myself of pennies. but no, not really. DRINKING: * At Home, Relaxing: If i'm BBQing, then a Sam Adams summer ale or wheat beer. But otherwise, not really. I do mix a mean White Russian for my wife when i'm feeling frisky. *At a bar, watching the game: whatever is on tap that isn't "Bud"-type piss water. *At Citifield (ok weather): I usually don't drink at games (the prices make my throat constrict). *At Citifield (really hot): see above *Away Games: I do like to try local brews when i'm on the road, at games or otherwise. *Nice Dinner: An umbrella drink, with either rum, vodka or tequila. I am secure in my masculinity and do like a sweet, girly drink on festive occasions. *Weddings: Screwdrivers and bloody marys, because i need a pretty good buzz just to endure these sorts of events (including bar mitzvahs, or any sort of shindig in a catering hall). *Someplace Tropical: same as "Nice Dinner" above. In my youth, i had some unpleasant incidents surrounding my chronic Jack Daniels usage. And, while attending Seawolf's university, after a spirited all-night Quarters match, I threw the empty keg through the end hall lounge window (and then i went outside, picked it up and threw it back in through another window), after which the institution asked me to live elsewhere for a while. After college, I gave up JD and switched to tequila. I like tequila shots... the ritual of the salt, the shot, the lime. But these days, alcohol doesn't interact well with the various medications i'm on for various maladies of middle age, so i nurse a beer at informal social occasions, and a screwdriver at formal ones, and that's about it. But if you want to talk prescription drugs...

seawolf17 Sep 03 2015 05:42 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

At Home, Relaxing: Beer. At a bar, watching the game: Beer. At Citifield (ok weather): Beer. At Citifield (really hot): Beer. Away Games: Haven't been in a while, but usually beer. Nice Dinner: Beer. Weddings: Beer. Someplace Tropical: Haven't been, but beer.

soupcan Sep 03 2015 06:59 AM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

At Home, Relaxing: Bourbon or rye. For Bourbon I like Woodford Reserve. There are a few ryes I'm digging right now - Whistle Pig and something called a 'Double Rye' from the High West distilling Co. At a bar, watching the game: See above At Citifield (ok weather): See above and/or beer. At Citifield (really hot): See above and/or beer. Away Games: See above and/or beer. Nice Dinner: Bourbon. If they have Woodford (usually they do), I'll drink that. If not I'll do Basil Haydens. In a pinch, Maker's Mark always works nicely. Weddings: Usually whatever nice scotch they are serving but only because my other choices aren't always available. Someplace Tropical: Tequila.

Fman99 Sep 03 2015 08:46 PM Re: Gratuity Not Included (Revisited)

Edgy MD wrote: Beware. Candy-flavored drinks, while possibly a delight to all, are particularly meant to attract shallow, consciously attractive women, so that they may attract foolish men and make them play terribly loose with their wallets. You missed all the best awesomest part of this process. You know, where there's touching and whatnot.

d'Kong76 Sep 03 2015 08:53 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

hiccup

Ceetar Sep 03 2015 09:16 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

d'Kong76 wrote: hiccup Ballast Point Pumpkin Down tonight. Not bad.

sharpie Sep 04 2015 07:43 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

No to fruity beers. Also no to flavored coffee but that's for another thread.

seawolf17 Sep 04 2015 07:54 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

sharpie wrote: No to fruity beers. Also no to flavored coffee but that's for another thread. I generally say no to any flavored beers, but speaking of Ballast Point, their Sculpin is grapefruity and actually really good.

Ceetar Sep 04 2015 09:21 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

seawolf17 wrote: sharpie wrote: No to fruity beers. Also no to flavored coffee but that's for another thread. I generally say no to any flavored beers, but speaking of Ballast Point, their Sculpin is grapefruity and actually really good. the Grapefruit version or the regular? both good, but one is particularly grapefruity. also have a habenaro version that i will try shortly.

soupcan Sep 04 2015 09:41 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

sharpie wrote: No to fruity beers. Also no to flavored coffee but that's for another thread. Simpatico.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 04 2015 10:35 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Ceetar wrote: seawolf17 wrote: sharpie wrote: No to fruity beers. Also no to flavored coffee but that's for another thread. I generally say no to any flavored beers, but speaking of Ballast Point, their Sculpin is grapefruity and actually really good. the Grapefruit version or the regular? both good, but one is particularly grapefruity. also have a habenaro version that i will try shortly. I tried the grapefruit sculpin and other than it tasting a lot like grapefruit for a beer, wasn't otherwise remarkable or demanding of a second try. And not to put too fine a point on it but flavored coffee is for assholes.

Ceetar Sep 04 2015 10:43 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: And not to put too fine a point on it but flavored coffee is for assholes. Milk is a flavor.

soupcan Sep 04 2015 10:47 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: And not to put too fine a point on it but flavored coffee is for assholes. Milk is a flavor. I drink mine black. What else you got?

Ceetar Sep 04 2015 10:50 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

soupcan wrote: Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: And not to put too fine a point on it but flavored coffee is for assholes. Milk is a flavor. I drink mine black. What else you got? I'll save it for the coffee thread. I like coffee beers, most of them at least. Adds a nice complementary flavor.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 04 2015 10:56 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

soupcan wrote: Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: And not to put too fine a point on it but flavored coffee is for assholes. Milk is a flavor. I drink mine black. What else you got? Soupy-Lunchy Similarity Score++

d'Kong76 Sep 04 2015 12:19 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Like I tell my wife, I like my coffee like I like my women.. black, strong, and bitter! (oops, wrong thread)

seawolf17 Sep 04 2015 12:21 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: seawolf17 wrote: sharpie wrote: No to fruity beers. Also no to flavored coffee but that's for another thread. I generally say no to any flavored beers, but speaking of Ballast Point, their Sculpin is grapefruity and actually really good. the Grapefruit version or the regular? both good, but one is particularly grapefruity. also have a habenaro version that i will try shortly. I tried the grapefruit sculpin and other than it tasting a lot like grapefruit for a beer, wasn't otherwise remarkable or demanding of a second try. And not to put too fine a point on it but flavored coffee is for assholes. I haven't tried the Grapefruit Sculpin because I thought the regular Sculpin was plenty citrusy already.

Ceetar Sep 04 2015 12:23 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

seawolf17 wrote: I haven't tried the Grapefruit Sculpin because I thought the regular Sculpin was plenty citrusy already. In my experience, Sculpin is not even a top citrusy IPA. That citrusy/tropical/juiciness is all the rage these days.

cooby Sep 04 2015 12:34 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

We need a coffee thread. By the way does anybody else have a sunbeam four cup coffee maker?

Edgy MD Sep 04 2015 01:25 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Crazy coldly sexy Russian co-worker just asked me if I wanted to go out and get trashed with her. "YES!! But I'm... not going to."

d'Kong76 Sep 04 2015 01:47 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Hello honey, I'm gonna be real late for dinner tonight.

Rockin' Doc Sep 04 2015 05:13 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

At Home, Relaxing: Crown Royal or Pendleton and a splash of ginger ale. In summer I may throw in Rum and coke (if wife feels like a drink), vodka & tonic w/ lime or gin & tonic w/ lime for a change of pace. At a bar, watching the game: Brown ale on draft (Fat Tire, Newcastle, Red Oak Amber, Copperline Amber or local brown/amber ale) At Citifield (ok weather): Haven't been to Citi Field in a few years. Can't remember what I drank, but I would definitely gravitate toward a local brown/amber beer. At Citifield (really hot): I'm not changing my beer choice based on the temperature. I'm just likely to drink more beer if it is really hot. Likely throw down a bottle of water as well to keep hydrated. Away Games: Local favorite (preferably a brown/amber). Nice Dinner: Generally beer. May go with a nice Chardonay if drinking with my wife. Weddings: Bourbon if or beer depending upon the options available. Someplace Tropical: Dark and Stormy (Dark rum and ginger beer). And I always try the local beer. As for coffee, I prefer it black w/ a little Stevia in the raw or truvia. (suger in the raw will do in a pinch). Failing that, then I'll drink it black.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 08 2015 04:07 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

I came across this beer in my local supermarket, which confused me a bit. I wanted to try it, but i was scared it would cause me to choke on my own vomit.

Ceetar Oct 08 2015 07:17 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

all reviews say it's really really bad.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 13 2015 11:11 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

This beer is so freaking good.... It won the silver medal at a European beer award thingie -- I am certain whichever beer won the gold must have been made from the pee of Tom Seaver. Btw, it's called "Nissos" in english which means "islander"

Ceetar Oct 13 2015 11:23 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

El Segundo Escupidor wrote: This beer is so freaking good.... It won the silver medal at a European beer award thingie -- I am certain whichever beer won the gold must have been made from the pee of Tom Seaver. Btw, it's called "Nissos" in english which means "islander" Gold would be Pivovar Litovel a.s. Litovel Premium from the Czech Republic. I don't think I had that when I was there.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 13 2015 11:48 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

I'll hook you up, habib.

Ceetar Oct 13 2015 12:27 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

If i had to choose one beer from Czech, it wouldn't be that.

seawolf17 Oct 13 2015 12:33 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Ceetar wrote: all reviews say it's really really bad. I actually had it at our local beer/burger place a few weeks ago. It tastes like Bud, really. You're paying for the logo.

metsmarathon Oct 13 2015 02:18 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

i like fruity beer and flavored coffee. i guess i'm just a terrible person.

Vic Sage Oct 14 2015 08:16 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

hey mm, lets form a support group. Girly Drinks Anonymous... where manhood is regained.

Ceetar Oct 14 2015 09:20 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Vic Sage wrote: hey mm, lets form a support group. Girly Drinks Anonymous... where manhood is regained. There was a time when I was routinely ordering Pink Squirrels because they had a cool name and were pink and frothy and cool looking and delicious. Usually at Friday's where they came frozen. It's cream de cacao, cream to noya and ice cream blended.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 14 2015 09:25 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

hey mm, lets form a support group. Girly Drinks Anonymous... where manhood is regained. There was a time when I was routinely ordering Pink Squirrels because they had a cool name and were pink and frothy and cool looking and delicious. Usually at Friday's where they came frozen. It's cream de cacao, cream to noya and ice cream blended. I had 6 Pornstars on the eve of Game 1. Maaaaaaaaaaaan..... http://www.diffordsguide.com/cocktails/ ... ar-martini

Ceetar Oct 14 2015 09:27 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

looks delicious. I've got a bottle of Passoa in the basement somewhere, haven't used it in ages.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 14 2015 09:30 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

They go down so easy.

Ceetar Oct 14 2015 09:34 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

as long as you pay them.

themetfairy Oct 14 2015 10:00 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Someone brought some Freaktoberfest beer to the tailgate party and I tried one. I love pumpkin. I love coffee. I like beer. I like pumpkin coffee. I like pumpkin beer. But pumpkin, coffee and beer - it just didn't work for me.

metsmarathon Oct 14 2015 10:49 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Vic Sage wrote: hey mm, lets form a support group. Girly Drinks Anonymous... where manhood is regained. real men order pink drinks.

Centerfield Nov 16 2015 11:13 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

Can't say enough about the champagne/prosecco combination. I think if the 2016 Mets should be so fortunate to find themselves in a position to clinch, I am definitely going to have some on hand.

RealityChuck Nov 16 2015 06:24 PM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

I'm starting to learn a little about single malt scotch, from discovering Maltcon at various SF conventions (most recently at World Fantasy Con last weekend). I never liked it, but now that I'm older, I can appreciate it. I tend to favor Speyside scotches; they have more character than lowland or highland (and are less smoky than Islay). It turned out my liking for Drambuie was the gateway. I liked it and discovered that scotch is similar, but without the sweetness.

Ceetar Nov 25 2015 11:43 AM Re: Booze Thread: split from Gratuity Not Included (Revisite

El Segundo Escupidor gave me a bottle of Greek beer at game 5. Finally got around to drinking it. NISSOS Pilsner pretty good. Actually won some silver medal. It's pretty sweet and malty, but it's got enough hops to balance it out and keep it crisp. Very drinkable.