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IGT Tuesday Sep 8 Mets vs Nats Kill KILL KILL

Fman99
Sep 07 2015 08:27 PM

Harvey day. Chance to bury these humps a game deeper in the standings. Jordan Zimmmermmannn on the hill for the home team.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 07 2015 09:32 PM
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It will be totally hilarious if Harvey pitches a complete game shutout now. Also, awesome, but hilarious with all the shit going-on about innings limits.

Zvon
Sep 07 2015 10:18 PM
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Biggest game of his life.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 05:09 AM
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Zvon wrote:
Biggest game of his life.


eh. We took all the pressure off this fat douchebag yesterday, especially with a superior and less self-obsessed teammate to clean up if necessary on Wednesday.

Matt Hovvey can go shove a Bat-boomerang up his Batcave, if you know what I mean.

themetfairy
Sep 08 2015 05:31 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
It will be totally hilarious if Harvey pitches a complete game shutout now. Also, awesome, but hilarious with all the shit going-on about innings limits.


D-Dad's scenario has Terry pulling Harvey after six no-hit innings because, well, you know - inning limits.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2015 06:15 AM
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Biggest game of his life.


Yes, it is the biggest game of his life. And thanks to him and his agent, he'll be taking the mound surrounded by a big stinky fart cloud.

I never liked the Batman stuff for Harvey, but now it seems even more stupid than ever. I think this character is more appropriate:

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 06:29 AM
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Funny how they always wind up killing a night watchman.

I'm totally down with Terry pulling Harvey after 6 or 7 no-hit innings. It would be so priceless.It would also up his trade value.

So convergence of interests here. Harvey wants to prove he's not a douche and he's really a warrior to be counted on. Boras wants to repair Harvey's damaged image. The Mets trying to put the Nats a little further in the rear view.

However, I'm guessing Matt goes splat. Gives up a few runs early and throws too many pitches. Bullpen net won't be there this time to bail him out like they bailed out Niese, who may suck but at least puts his heart into it.

And we move on to Wednesday, hoping it's not a bad Hair day.

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 06:45 AM
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H: "But Skip, I'm perfect through six!"
C: "Sorry, Scott just texted me; time to pull you. Ice up."

GAME: New York Mets (76-61) at Washington Nationals (71-66)
DATE/TIME: Tuesday, September 08 - 7:05 PM EST
WHERE: Nationals Park, Washington, District of Columbia
LINE: 104, -113 TOTAL: 7
Covers Media Group Ltd.

Matt Harvey caused a stir when he put pen to paper to announce in The Players' Tribune that he intends to pitch in the postseason, despite having doctors recommend that he be shut down after 180 innings. The 26-year-old resides just 13 2/3 shy of that total in his first season since Tommy John surgery as the New York Mets play the second contest of their three-game series versus the host Washington Nationals on Tuesday.

"Let me get into detail after we've sort of worked it out among the parties," Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said. "I don't want to get ahead of the situation and create another disconnect." New York slugged its way to an 8-5 series-opening victory to move five games ahead of second-place Washington in the National League East. Ryan Zimmermann had a pair of singles on Monday to extend his hitting streak to 11 games, but is just 4-for-17 (.235) in his career versus Harvey. The right-hander has flustered Bryce Harper by retiring the Nationals star in all 17 career at-bats, including seven via strikeout.

TV: 7:05 p.m. ET, SNY (New York), MASN2 (Washington)

PITCHING MATCHUP: Mets RH Matt Harvey (12-7, 2.60 ERA) vs. Nationals RH Jordan Zimmermann (12-8, 3.38)

Harvey improved to 4-0 in his last seven starts on Wednesday after allowing four runs on nine hits in 6 1/3 innings of a 9-4 triumph over Philadelphia. The seventh overall pick of the 2010 draft, Harvey's run total versus the Phillies matched his complete tally of his previous six games (41 2/3 frames). Harvey has handcuffed the Nationals (3-2, 0.99 ERA and 0.88 WHIP) in his career, permitting three earned runs and 18 hits in 27 2/3 innings to post a 2-1 mark in four meetings this season.

Zimmermann recorded his fourth straight victory in as many outings after allowing one run on two hits in six innings of a 15-1 rout of Atlanta on Thursday. The 29-year-old has benefited from a power surge by his own team, which has amassed 44 runs in his last four starts. Zimmermann dominated the Mets in his season-opening debut, yielded three runs in seven innings in the next meeting before getting taken deep three times and surrendering five runs total in a 5-2 setback on Aug. 2.

WALK-OFFS:
1. New York OF Yoenis Cespedes has homered in back-to-back contests and five times during his six-game hitting streak.
2. Washington C Wilson Ramos belted a grand slam to improve to 1-for-13 in his last four contests on the heels of an 11-game hitting streak.
3. New York has won eight of its 14 meetings with Washington this season - including four of seven at Nationals Park.

Ceetar
Sep 08 2015 07:24 AM
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The lawyer and amateur doctor storyline stuff is not particularly interesting to me. Harvey's a good pitcher. The Nats can be beaten. beat them. Put the division back squarely in "Nats don't control their own destiny" territory again, which happens with a win in either of these games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 07:28 AM
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I'm not completely disabused of Operation: Torn Rotator Cuff as blurted out in a moment of incredulous passion in another thread. Yes, that would be a Net Suck but it would also remove Harvey from gumming up any more progress. I mean, if a guy is going to be out then he may as well be hurt (Maybe, Operation: Strained Groin would be better). But, I got no interest in reading Derek Jeter's website to know if a guy is available on a certain day.

Centerfield
Sep 08 2015 07:48 AM
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Biggest game of his life.


Yes, it is the biggest game of his life. And thanks to him and his agent, he'll be taking the mound surrounded by a big stinky fart cloud.

I never liked the Batman stuff for Harvey, but now it seems even more stupid than ever. I think this character is more appropriate:



Or Two-Face.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:56 AM
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Lots of interesting subplots.

[list=1:66b9tekf][*:66b9tekf]There's just something so fucking Clemens about a guy massaging his own narrative to make himself appear to be a warrior while measuring on a daily basis what the minimum requirement is that he has to do in order to plausibly claim to be a warrior. Is he going to go all eye black today? I'd really like Harvey to grow up a little today. Nitz to the Batman stuff.

[/*:m:66b9tekf]
[*:66b9tekf]What about the quick pitch controversy? Is that still a bug up Zimmerman's butt? Would Zimmerman have cared at all if it wasn't for the previous quick pitch controversy? Is he just jumping on a Robles-is-a-dick bandwagon? Robles is probably scratched today, but maybe somebody else gets all quicky on them. I bet Clippard has a chip on his shoulder.

[/*:m:66b9tekf]
[*:66b9tekf]And where does this leave Wright? Not since the great Knight-Davis brawl has a guy been so positioned as the team's enemy when he's close offseason buds with the team's best player.

[/*:m:66b9tekf]
[*:66b9tekf]Duda back in this lineup. If he comes back with his timing intact, then it's all over, isn't it?[/*:m:66b9tekf][/list:o:66b9tekf]

Ashie62
Sep 08 2015 10:08 AM
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Harvey will be pulled at the first sign of trouble.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2015 10:09 AM
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I'd say the first sign of trouble happened a few days ago.

Ceetar
Sep 08 2015 10:11 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Harvey will be pulled at the first sign of trouble.


no he won't, he's one of their best pitchers and you trust him more than most, if not all, the relievers.

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 10:24 AM
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If Harvey and the Mets win today, I'm OK with shutting him down for the rest of the regular season* if it means he could pitch more in an eventual postseason.

*Unless the Nats are still hanging around during that last regular season series at Citi (which would become a "postseason" series anyway).

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2015 10:39 AM
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A win today doesn't mean that the lead won't be back down to two or three games a week and a half from now.

But Harvey hasn't exactly been a sure-thing this year anyway. The Mets have lost 40% of the games he's started. Their record in games that he's started isn't significantly better than it is in games started by others. (I do realize that may be more of a reflection on the "others" than on Harvey.)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Sep 08 2015 10:53 AM
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Harvey wants to start? Harvey wants to manage innings limits? Harvey wants to have his ego stroked?

Have him strike out the side in the first, then hand the game over to Verrett. He gets to leave to applause, and scowl and everything!

He wants a nickname? I'm calling him Millennial Clemens, this one.

Gwreck
Sep 08 2015 11:08 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
The Mets have lost 40% of the games he's started. Their record in games that he's started isn't significantly better than it is in games started by others. (I do realize that may be more of a reflection on the "others" than on Harvey.)


There are 3 additional games that the Mets lost but were not Harvey's fault:
1. There was a 1-0 loss to Atlanta on June 21
2. There was a loss to Chicago on May 13: Harvey left after 7 innings with a 1-0 lead; bullpen gave up 2 runs en route to a 2-1 loss
3. There was a 6-4 loss to Boston on August 28 where Harvey left leading 2-0 after 6 and the game was lost in extras.

G-Fafif
Sep 08 2015 01:26 PM
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Dilson Herrera will be wearing No. 16, because he grew up on the legend of Doc Gooden. Or because Danny Muno wasn't using it.

G-Fafif
Sep 08 2015 01:36 PM
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Granderson RF
Cespedes CF
Murphy 2B
Wright 3B
Duda 1B
d'Arnaud C
Conforto LF
Flores SS
Harvey P

That's a good-looking lineup. Hope it isn't shut out.

G-Fafif
Sep 08 2015 01:38 PM
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Werth LF
Rendon 2B
Harper RF
Escobar 3B
Robinson 1B
Desmond SS
Ramos C
Taylor CF
Zimmermann P

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 01:48 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
That's a good-looking lineup.

It really is, let's keep everyone healthy during this sweep.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 01:58 PM
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We can mock Terry for over-doing the righty/lefty thing (and for the record I agree that he does overdo it at times) but this sort of alternating lineup forced Matt Williams into a bunch of moves on Monday which, even if they had worked, would have left him with a short pen in a tie game. And with statistical analysis arguing against the notion that there's some sort of synergistic alchemy to any specific lineup or that the notion of direct "protection" is likely a lark, the marching army set-up [Left - Right - Left - Right ...] is as good an idea to hang your hat on as any.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2015 02:20 PM
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I don't object at all to the alternating lineup. I think it makes sense.

G-Fafif
Sep 08 2015 02:33 PM
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Last everybody-is-imposing lineup that comes to mind, July 23, 2006 (I looked up the particulars datewise, but these were the guys I was thinking of):

Reyes SS
Lo Duca C
Beltran CF
Delgado 1B
Wright 3B
Floyd LF
Valentin 2B
Nady RF
Pelfrey P

OK, maybe not Pelf.

Once Nady was gone and replaced by Green, it wasn't quite the same. By the following year, Alou when he was available was more potent than 2006 Floyd, but he wasn't available much. And Lo Duca fell off. And Valentin fell off and eventually was out for the year.

And so on until today, so I can't say I examined every lineup of every year. But mostly I hope tonight's comes through tonight and establishes a new benchmark.

Ceetar
Sep 08 2015 02:34 PM
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I object to Granderson leadoff, as I have all year. Leadoff home runs feel like they're wasting guys on base. Tejada, the prime candidate to leadoff given high OBP low SLG, isn't playing, but Murphy and Wright both are, right now, candidates.

I realize it's nit-picking and a marginal run-scoring adjustment isn't really a big deal to the Mets offense right now, but hey, I'd rather nit-pick lineups than murky quotes about what doctors have said about ligaments.

Ashie62
Sep 08 2015 03:58 PM
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I like tonights lineup and also like in general what Terry has done with the extra pieces at his disposal now.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 08 2015 04:08 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Last everybody-is-imposing lineup that comes to mind, July 23, 2006 (I looked up the particulars datewise, but these were the guys I was thinking of):

Reyes SS
Lo Duca C
Beltran CF
Delgado 1B
Wright 3B
Floyd LF
Valentin 2B
Nady RF
Pelfrey P

OK, maybe not Pelf.

Once Nady was gone and replaced by Green, it wasn't quite the same. By the following year, Alou when he was available was more potent than 2006 Floyd, but he wasn't available much. And Lo Duca fell off. And Valentin fell off and eventually was out for the year.

And so on until today, so I can't say I examined every lineup of every year. But mostly I hope tonight's comes through tonight and establishes a new benchmark.


Though blessed with baseball's most potent lineup, all the idiot manager ever wanted to do was have Lo Duca make an intentional out that might move Reyes up one base.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 04:20 PM
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I object to Granderson leadoff, as I have all year. Leadoff home runs feel like they're wasting guys on base. Tejada, the prime candidate to leadoff given high OBP low SLG, isn't playing, but Murphy and Wright both are, right now, candidates.

I realize it's nit-picking and a marginal run-scoring adjustment isn't really a big deal to the Mets offense right now, but hey, I'd rather nit-pick lineups than murky quotes about what doctors have said about ligaments.


Yes, the not-everyday-ness of Tejada helps to keep him out of leadoff consideration as I think that's the one spot that Terry -- and pretty much every manager -- would like to keep consistent. Also I suspect his OBP wouldn't be as high as it is if he were moved from the lower spots in the lineup (fewer IWs and pitch-arounds) and stats do bear that out even if in limited samples and questionable correlation [.395 batting 7th, vs .330 or less everywhere else].

Meanwhile, Murphy is never going to be a great OBP guy (36 points behind Granderson now and even more since CF shamed Grandy into not sucking). And while Grandy may have more power than a healthy Wright in stadiums not named YSIII, given the choice I'd opt for the more walks up top with the more hits guy trying to drive him in rather than the other way around.

Bottom line: ideally Grandy probably should bat somewhere else. Except that we don't have a real leadoff guy; he's OPB-ing nearly .390 since the ASB; you only lead off once per game anyway; and on Terry's pitcher hitting 8th days he often winds up batting after Tejada anyway once past the 1st inning.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 04:24 PM
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Leadoff home runs, especially on the road, are great things to have. Productive Grandyman could be productive all over the lineup, as most good players are. Props to him for doing it pretty well.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 04:40 PM
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I'm curious about flip-flopping Wright and Cespedes between two and four.

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 08 2015 05:21 PM
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Harvey, you turd. Get it together.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 05:22 PM
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Well, not going well for [crossout:28wbx9fy]Boras[/crossout:28wbx9fy] Harvey tonight.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 05:29 PM
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David Wright: Bailing out turds since 2004.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 05:44 PM
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Turds: Cancelling out Wright HR's since 2015.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 05:59 PM
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2 followed by 1 followed 0 in the first three innings for Harvey.

I'm hoping for -1 in the fourth.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 06:03 PM
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Do it again, David.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 06:07 PM
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I don't like the Rothenberg Law Firm promoting themselves by depicting a Mets baseball brawl.

Ashie62
Sep 08 2015 06:09 PM
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Harvey ain't all that.

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 06:24 PM
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Werth got that K thing down tonight.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 06:31 PM
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Grandy in triple mode.

Pitching coach at the mound and his name is McCatty.

Tying run at the plate, and his name is Cespedes.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 06:46 PM
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Okay, shut Harvey down NOW.

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 06:49 PM
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ruh roe

metsmarathon
Sep 08 2015 06:50 PM
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fuckity fuck

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 08 2015 06:52 PM
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NICE GAME, BATMAN

Ashie62
Sep 08 2015 06:56 PM
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This one is done.

Later.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 06:57 PM
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Cespedes was just too casual on that one. It's a flaw in his game- he's immensely talented but he can come up short on the 'fundies' as Keith would say.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 08 2015 07:00 PM
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Well, at least Harvey kept his inning count short tonight...

seawolf17
Sep 08 2015 07:03 PM
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NO WORRIES FELLAS.

WE GOT THIS.

Ashie62
Sep 08 2015 07:03 PM
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Mets might be better without Harvey for awhile. Harv has not not looked well of late.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:03 PM
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Keep your eye on the ball, Matt.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 07:03 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
NICE GAME, BATMAN


I dunno, this just made me LOL.

Tellin ya, a groin injury would have been just as good.

All that said, I still think we can win this one.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:07 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Mets might be better without Harvey for awhile. Harv has not not looked well of late.


Yeah, that 0.33 ERA in August and the .160 BA-against was enough to make me want to put him on the shelf.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:18 PM
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Granderson is the guy you want up here, even more than Cespedes.

And Cespedes is on deck.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 07:20 PM
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Well isn't this INTERESTING! Cespedes coming up as the potential tying run against deposed closer Drew Storen.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:21 PM
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And this just got interesting in a hurry (well, not in a hurry as this half-inning has taken about a half-hour - but yaknowwhatImean)

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 07:21 PM
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Ummm.....tying run at the plate? And it's Cespedes? And Storen coming in to face him?

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:23 PM
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Bring the storm, Mets.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 07:23 PM
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CESPEDES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?!

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:24 PM
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[fimg=800:3n2sggqz]http://seedmagazine.com/portfolio/img/portfolio/05_rider_on_the_storm/03_rider_on_the_storm.jpg[/fimg:3n2sggqz]

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:24 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
CESPEDES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?!


This had been his first shitty game maybe since he got here ... and now it's not.

seawolf17
Sep 08 2015 07:26 PM
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Don't you dare give up on this team, kids.

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 07:26 PM
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He's just unconsciouspedes!

dinosaur jesus
Sep 08 2015 07:27 PM
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You know, I really can't enjoy these games. They're like waiting out a tornado or something, knowing something terrible could happen any moment. But if you can get any distance at all, this is a hell of a series. Not great baseball, I guess, but classic stuff. Now I've got to go back in my storm shelter.

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 07:28 PM
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I can't believe I've missed most of this game. Harvey does not rise to the occasion. Booo! Cespedes made a 3 run error? Yikes! I don't get it though. It says all Matt's runs allowed are earned.

Well, he just got those back. Come on David!

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:29 PM
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"Come in" she said "I'll give ya, Shelter from the storm".

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 07:29 PM
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This fuckin team

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:31 PM
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Duda, me.

O, Mother, Duda me.

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 07:31 PM
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Just caught up on DVR. I love this fucking team!

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 07:32 PM
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I'm pacing around my basement like a lunatic.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:32 PM
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Oh my my, oh hell yes
Duda gotta drive in that Cespedes

HahnSolo
Sep 08 2015 07:32 PM
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God the Nationals bullpen is a steaming pile of manure.

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 07:33 PM
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Unfknbelievable. :)

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 07:34 PM
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DOO DAH!

seawolf17
Sep 08 2015 07:34 PM
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DON'T YOU GIVE UP ON THIS TEAM

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 07:34 PM
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Everybody scores!

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:35 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2015 07:36 PM

Nats currently warming up their third lefty of the inning - and he's probably coming in if Storen can't get d'Arnaud.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:36 PM
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Who let d'Arnaud swing at that?

Ashie62
Sep 08 2015 07:36 PM
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Storen has become Steve Blass.

WOW!!

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 07:39 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Mets might be better without Harvey for awhile.

The Mets are bigger than Harvey.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 07:40 PM
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Well, just, wow.....

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 07:48 PM
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I'm trying to decide how much I trust Addison Reed.

That inning didn't hurt.

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 07:48 PM
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Who da man? Reed da man!

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:49 PM
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'nother nice job by Reed - Yunel Escobar's 900th seeing-eye single of the season notwithstanding.

3-4-5-6 including 2 LHBs and he deals two Ks & 2 grounders

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 07:50 PM
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Reed kicks seventh inning butt. Now go to town on Paps, boys.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 07:51 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
I'm trying to decide how much I trust Addison Reed.

That inning didn't hurt.


He doesn't have good location on his off speed stuff. It just goes wherever and he's hoping guys will chase it. Now, that fastball, if he can spot that and push it past people, he'll be fine as a 7th inning guy.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 08 2015 07:51 PM
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Let's jump on Papelbon and put this game away with a few runs.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:52 PM
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Would be real nice to win this against Papeldung - who ya gotta assume the Nats are prepared to use for two innings.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 07:53 PM
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Omir Santos in the on-deck circle!

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 07:55 PM
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KIRK FUCKING NEWEYHINEY!

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 07:55 PM
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[bigpurple:3cwl5hft]KIRK!!!!!![/bigpurple:3cwl5hft]

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 07:55 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2015 07:57 PM

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Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 07:55 PM
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Howie Rose came very close to a "Holy shit!"

themetfairy
Sep 08 2015 07:56 PM
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[bigpurple:2nma5t8l]Holy Crap Nieuwenhuis![/bigpurple:2nma5t8l]

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 07:56 PM
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Lawdy lawdy lawdy Miss Clawdy

Rockin' Doc
Sep 08 2015 07:56 PM
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Ouch! That will leave a mark.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 08 2015 07:58 PM
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Zvon wrote:
[fimg=400]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vK8hcJaUY6s/UVqfEiJ3zrI/AAAAAAAACn4/DvRa2exq3qE/s580-Ic42/kirkkb12002.jpg[/fimg]

I'm amazed that you have that ready.

soupcan
Sep 08 2015 07:58 PM
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There are no words for this team!!!

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 07:58 PM
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Nieuweyboom!

HahnSolo
Sep 08 2015 07:59 PM
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I just…can't. This f'in team.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 08:00 PM
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6 more outs, guys.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:02 PM
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Clipart gets the bottom of the order
Familia, presumably, will face the big boys.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:06 PM
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Clippard FUCK YEAH

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 08:06 PM
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Let's get a couple more runs here!

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 08:06 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:

I'm amazed that you have that ready.


Everything is just a Picasa click away. I have Lasting Milledge kaBOOMs ready to go :)

I kind retired the kaBOOMs but if we go post season all retirements are off.


Clippard with a great 8th inning. Niiiiice.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 08:07 PM
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FORMERNATSCLOSER > CURRENTNATSCLOSER

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 08:07 PM
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Good job, Clippy.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:08 PM
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And the O's just nipped the Yanx 2-1 so lots of things are looking up right about now.

RealityChuck
Sep 08 2015 08:12 PM
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It's so strange watching a Mets team that can score late.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:13 PM
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Insurance runs are for pussies. It's Jeurys time.

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 08:14 PM
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I just saw the Cespedes boo-boo. Yoooouch. How embarrassing is that!?

I still don't understand why all the runs were earned. 2 RBI's on that play but they scored 3, right? Maybe Gary said "3 base error", and not "3 run error".

PiggiesTomatoes
Sep 08 2015 08:15 PM
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So, anything going on tonight?

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 08:15 PM
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HEY, PIGNATANO IN THE HOUSE!

I <3 WALKS

Valadius
Sep 08 2015 08:16 PM
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Watching this in DC, I am struck by how old Ray Knight looks.

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 08:16 PM
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LETS GO FAMILIA! LETS GO METS!!

Rockin' Doc
Sep 08 2015 08:16 PM
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RealityChuck wrote:
It's so strange watching a Mets team that can score late.


It's a little strange watching a Mets team that can score. It's a lot more fun than watching the noffense through July.

Buckle up. Familia against the top of their order.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:17 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I just saw the Cespedes boo-boo. Yoooouch. How embarrassing is that!?

I still don't understand why all the runs were earned. 2 RBI's on that play but they scored 3, right? Maybe Gary said "3 base error", and not "3 run error".


They said it was because of the Werth double later in the inning, all of the runs would have theoretically scored eventually, so they all become earned runs, or something like that.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 08:17 PM
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No Laggy?

Freakin' 0-2 hits, man.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:17 PM
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Too many two-strike hits allowed in this series.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:18 PM
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Sac bunting w/Rendon?!?! -- Wow!

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 08:20 PM
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And doing it with a 3-1 count too.

And Duda bringing the dee.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:21 PM
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See? Bunting is stupid. The only person who should ever bunt is a pitcher.

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 08:21 PM
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bunting 3-1!!!??? ahhahaha, thank you Matt Williams!!! thank you!!Rendon bunting 3-1!!

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:21 PM
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Thank you Matt Williams !!!!
I thought it was a shitty idea to begin with, but then to keep it on at 2-1 and 3-1 ... just wow!

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 08:21 PM
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Unsucessful. HA!

HahnSolo
Sep 08 2015 08:21 PM
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Thanks for bunting on that 3-1 count!

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:22 PM
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Familia trying to throw 108 MPH up there.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 08 2015 08:23 PM
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Harper at bat here makes me queasy.

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 08:24 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Harper at bat here makes me queasy.

And you somehow think you're the only one?

Ugh! Walked him.

DP>DP!!WE NEED THE DP!!!!!!

GIMME A DP!!!!

PiggiesTomatoes
Sep 08 2015 08:25 PM
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How about another sacrifice, Matty.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:25 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Harper at bat here makes me queasy.

And you somehow think you're the only one?

Ugh! Walked him.

DP>DP!!WE NEED THE DP!!!!!!

GIMME A DP!!!!


Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:26 PM
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PUT IT IN THE BOOKS!

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 08:27 PM
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Votta game!

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 08:27 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2015 08:27 PM

Zvon wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Harper at bat here makes me queasy.

And you somehow think you're the only one?

Ugh! Walked him.

DP>DP!!WE NEED THE DP!!!!!!

GIMME A DP!!!!

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

d'Kong76
Sep 08 2015 08:27 PM
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SHIT! Yeah!!!

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 08:27 PM
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What a game...what a team!

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2015 08:27 PM
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I am TOTALLY giddy right now!

themetfairy
Sep 08 2015 08:27 PM
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OMG!

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 08 2015 08:28 PM
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Don't wake me from this dream.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 08:28 PM
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Fick yeah. Washington is done.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 08:28 PM
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Who gets the most crap in DC over the next 24 hours?

[list:9ih2gdfo]1. Williams?

2. Papebon?

3. Heartless fans?[/list:u:9ih2gdfo]

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 08:29 PM
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Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:29 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Fick yeah. Washington is done.


Shit, you'd have to think they are mentally even if not yet mathematically.

PiggiesTomatoes
Sep 08 2015 08:29 PM
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Valadius
Sep 08 2015 08:29 PM
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WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 08:30 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
A Boy Named Seo wrote:
NICE GAME, BATMAN


I dunno, this just made me LOL.

Tellin ya, a groin injury would have been just as good.

All that said, I still think we can win this one.
WRITE IT DOWN

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 08 2015 08:30 PM
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This is the type of thing that happens TO the Mets. We're living in Bizaro World.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 08 2015 08:31 PM
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I am irrationally exuberant.

themetfairy
Sep 08 2015 08:31 PM
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I can't believe my lyin' eyes....

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:32 PM
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9-6 vs Nats this season including 5 W's (and not he curly kind) in a row.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 08 2015 08:33 PM
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What a demoralizing loss for the Nationals. There announcers were talking about the Michael Taylor hit/Cespedes error being the "momentum changing play of the season".

Little did they know. Cespedes giveth and Cespedes taketh away. Great come back win for the Mets. I wonder how they feel about momentum right about now.

HahnSolo
Sep 08 2015 08:34 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Who gets the most crap in DC over the next 24 hours?

[list]1. Williams?

2. Papebon?

3. Heartless fans?[/list:u]


The Washington message boards blame Williams for everything.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 08 2015 08:36 PM
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I liked Matt Williams as a player. Hard nosed, throwback type player, but as a manager he's pretty much a by the book pinhead without an original thought or strategy.

PiggiesTomatoes
Sep 08 2015 08:37 PM
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Republican Nationals' fans will still blame Obama.

Storen for President.

Valadius
Sep 08 2015 08:37 PM
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All the political tweeters are calling for Williams' head.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2015 08:38 PM
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You know, there was an out sometime in the middle of the game, when Bryce We-Don't-Quit-and-Neither-Should-You Harper hit an infield grounder and barely dragged his ass out of the box. THAT, too, was something of a momentum changer from my vantage point.

HahnSolo
Sep 08 2015 08:39 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
You know, there was an out sometime in the middle of the game, when Bryce We-Don't-Quit-and-Neither-Should-You Harper hit an infield grounder and barely dragged his ass out of the box. THAT, too, was something of a momentum changer from my vantage point.


I was in the car for that one. Howie and Josh were all over him.

PiggiesTomatoes
Sep 08 2015 08:40 PM
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Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:41 PM
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Rockin' Doc wrote:
What a demoralizing loss for the Nationals. There announcers were talking about the Michael Taylor hit/Cespedes error being the "momentum changing play of the season".

Little did they know. Cespedes giveth and Cespedes taketh away. Great come back win for the Mets. I wonder how they feel about momentum right about now.


That's the thing about 'turning points', they're always assigned retroactively.
Mets fans KNEW that we weren't losing that game after Endy made the catch/DP ... except we did so it's no longer the turning point.


So how often do you win back to back games where you give up (effectively) a Grand Slam in each?

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 08:42 PM
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PiggiesTomatoes wrote:
[fimg=550]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CObZjKiWoAAbVwY.jpg:large[/fimg]


Holy shit Piggy, that might be the post of the year!!

PiggiesTomatoes
Sep 08 2015 08:43 PM
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Wish I could take credit. Came from Adam Rubin's twitter feed.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 08 2015 08:44 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
This is the type of thing that happens TO the Mets. We're living in Bizaro World.


That's exactly what I was thinking.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2015 08:47 PM
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I don't agree with that. This is the kind of thing that sometimes happens to the Mets. But every once in a while there's a magical year, and this kind of stuff goes in the Mets favor.

PiggiesTomatoes
Sep 08 2015 08:47 PM
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One more...



Follow WaPo's Dan Worthington.

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 08:47 PM
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That wasn't the final nail in the coffin, but I'm willing to admit that the Nats are definitely laying in that pine box the Mets have been pounding on.

Fman99
Sep 08 2015 08:49 PM
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Nats down one, going to the bottom of the 9th, and the top of their order due up, and fans just streaming out of the park. GOOD TIMES.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 08 2015 08:52 PM
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While this was a gloriously demoralizing loss for the Nationals, I bet there are people who said the infamous Padres rain relay loss was going to be the demise of the Mets. Instead, it was just a low point.

Of course, the difference is that one came with two months left to play and the other with just over three weeks left.

TransMonk
Sep 08 2015 08:53 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
While this was a gloriously demoralizing loss for the Nationals, I bet there are people who said the infamous Padres rain relay loss was going to be the demise of the Mets. Instead, it was just a low point.

Yup. The low point that the team has completely rebounded from. Everything on the field since that day has been pretty glorious.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 09:00 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
That wasn't the final nail in the coffin, but I'm willing to admit that the Nats are definitely laying in that pine box the Mets have been pounding on.


That analogy has been used before. Say about 10/16/69

[fimg=400]http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/FHSart/sc01a93bcc.jpg[/fimg]

Zvon
Sep 08 2015 09:02 PM
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Valadius
Sep 08 2015 09:02 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
Nats down one, going to the bottom of the 9th, and the top of their order due up, and fans just streaming out of the park. GOOD TIMES.

In fairness to the Nats, it has much less to do with the fervor of their fans and more to do with the unholy mess that is the DC Metro system.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2015 09:08 PM
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Dumb buntcunty call aside that was a sexy play by Duda to get the out at 2nd. How many times do you see a guy sail one into left field on that play? Or hesitate like "Focused on Tuesday" Harvey and get nobody out.

Gwreck
Sep 08 2015 09:11 PM
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Zvon
Sep 08 2015 09:18 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Dumb buntcunty call aside that was a sexy play by Duda to get the out at 2nd. How many times do you see a guy sail one into left field on that play? Or hesitate like "Focused on Tuesday" Harvey and get nobody out.


Duda can do that in his sleep. Doing it on the field however, is much more impressive.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2015 09:40 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I just saw the Cespedes boo-boo. Yoooouch. How embarrassing is that!?

I still don't understand why all the runs were earned. 2 RBI's on that play but they scored 3, right? Maybe Gary said "3 base error", and not "3 run error".


The plan behind determining earned vs unearned is to 're-create' the inning without the error and see how things would have turned out - and the fact that no outs would have been turned on the play anyway and that Jayson Werth doubled two batters later means that those runs would have scored even had the play been clean.

Now I think you could argue that it was a bad hop that made Yoenis miss the ball meaning you can score it a hit all the way -- iow, an inside the park GS -- but that's a whole 'tother story.

Nymr83
Sep 08 2015 09:44 PM
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We don't f****** need Harvey to beat this shit team! let's go Mets!!

Centerfield
Sep 08 2015 09:50 PM
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Just a few thoughts to round out the night.

HOLY FUCKING CRAP WHAT A GREAT WIN. Can't remember the last time I saw something like this. #LOLNATS

Was at the gym for most of the comeback. My GameCast told me Addison Reed was batting. I was cursing Terry and was just about to turn off my phone when it flashed 8-7. Looked at the description and saw it was Kirk.

Omir Santos must be pissed. He no longer has the biggest hit against Papelbon.

Can't believe Williams bunted Rendon on 3-1. LOLOLOL. I think this is a great strategy. Matt, bunt Rendon 4 times tomorrow.

That douchebag Harvey better figure out things out fast. If you're gonna be a douchebag you better be good to back it up.

Can't wait for tomorrow's game. We need that no mercy Cobra Kai sensei.

Zvon
Sep 09 2015 05:23 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Zvon wrote:
I just saw the Cespedes boo-boo. Yoooouch. How embarrassing is that!?

I still don't understand why all the runs were earned. 2 RBI's on that play but they scored 3, right? Maybe Gary said "3 base error", and not "3 run error".


The plan behind determining earned vs unearned is to 're-create' the inning without the error and see how things would have turned out - and the fact that no outs would have been turned on the play anyway and that Jayson Werth doubled two batters later means that those runs would have scored even had the play been clean.

Now I think you could argue that it was a bad hop that made Yoenis miss the ball meaning you can score it a hit all the way -- iow, an inside the park GS -- but that's a whole 'tother story.


I'm about to watch that entire inning.

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2015 05:44 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
Can't believe Williams bunted Rendon on 3-1. LOLOLOL. I think this is a great strategy. Matt, bunt Rendon 4 times tomorrow.


This may have been the best strategy involving Matt Williams since Buck Showalter double-switched Matt Williams out of a tie game in the 8th inning at Shea on 10/9/99

Now in fairness to Buck, Williams' spot in the batting order never did come around again and he made the swap in order to get his best reliever Matt Mantei into a tie game when the Mets had 1st & 3rd/1-out. Mantei got out of that jam and went on to get 4 more important outs ... until Todd Pratt came up.



Williams [.303/.344/.536 - 35 HR/37 2Bs] hit cleanup that year right behind Luis Gonzalez and I remember the double-switch being a hot topic at the time even though it's tough to make the case that Buck got 'burned' by it. And why was Williams the one swapped out? Because he's the guy who hit the single where Mel Mora made a crazy good throw to nail Jay Bell at the plate and end the top of the 8th two batters after Bell had hit a 2R double to tie the game (we IW'd Luis Gonzalez in between).
Benitez, then Franco, got the 'Backs in order in the 9th & 10th meaning that Bell - Gonzalez - then Williams' spot were due up in top 11 (against either Franco or someone from the Turk/Cook cast of characters) - but of course they never did get up as Pratt forced Luis Gonzalez to wait two more years before he could become a post-season hero.

Ceetar
Sep 09 2015 07:16 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Who gets the most crap in DC over the next 24 hours?

[list]1. Williams?

2. Papebon?

3. Heartless fans?[/list:u]


uhh, isn't it obvious?

RG3.

MFS62
Sep 09 2015 07:28 AM
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For those who want to enjoy Howie's call again, here it is:
http://dailystache.net/must-listen-howi ... -comeback/

As Edgy mentioned earlier in the thread, Howie came very close to a "Holy shit!". The homer is after the 1:25 mark.

Later

Edgy MD
Sep 09 2015 07:41 AM
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It's so cool and surreal to see that over-stuffed Mets dugout celebrating together — Mets whose main Metly time is mostly past with varying degrees of unlikeliness for the post-season roster; Mets whose time is now, grinding it out, finding new alchemy every day; Mets whose time is mostly future, not playing much so far, but wondering if if their big league careers are always going to be this magical.

G-Fafif
Sep 09 2015 07:46 AM
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I'm always impressed by the guys who are barely on the team being as excited as anybody with a more obvious stake in the team's success. I remember Billy Taylor, off the 1999 postseason roster, appearing as invested in a great moment versus Arizona or Atlanta (probably Atlanta), as anybody else. I remember Jose Lima, who'd officially been a Met for maybe five minutes, being the most thrilled teammate of all in 2006 when David Wright beat Rivera and the MFYs. And last night, nobody looked happier for Kirk Nieuwenhuis than the freshly arrived, mostly (for now) forgotten Dilson Herrera.

Teamwork. It looks so frigging good in blue and orange.

Edgy MD
Sep 09 2015 07:59 AM
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What impressed me the most was the festibrations of Eric Young. He was all "OUR TEAM! OUR TIME!" and if anybody was looking to tell him that his time was two years ago, and only sorta, even if that wasn't all that much, he just wasn't hearing it.

Ceetar
Sep 09 2015 08:04 AM
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I was impressed by how hard David Wright and Michael Cuddyer were high-fiving guys after Kirk's home run.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 09 2015 08:07 AM
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Storen is the guy they hate the most I think.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 09 2015 08:22 AM
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So the sun rose, and I'm looking at this and it looks like it really happened.

d'Kong76
Sep 09 2015 08:23 AM
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This thread title makes me laugh, and it doesn't want to Die DIE DIE...

Edgy MD
Sep 09 2015 08:42 AM
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I keep flashing on this:

Fman99
Sep 09 2015 10:26 AM
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If that's the image I'm conjuring up for folks, well, then, I think you all know that I'd feel like I've done right by you.

seawolf17
Sep 09 2015 10:55 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
For those who want to enjoy Howie's call again, here it is:
http://dailystache.net/must-listen-howi ... -comeback/

As Edgy mentioned earlier in the thread, Howie came very close to a "Holy shit!". The homer is after the 1:25 mark.

Later

HA! "Holy s...mokes!" Awesome.

Edgy MD
Sep 09 2015 11:02 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
If that's the image I'm conjuring up for folks, well, then, I think you all know that I'd feel like I've done right by you.

While you're smokin' hot, we need an IGT, Killer.

d'Kong76
Sep 09 2015 11:07 AM
Re: IGT Tuesday Sep 8 Mets vs Nats Kill KILL KILL

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23317

Ceetar
Sep 09 2015 01:40 PM
Re: IGT Tuesday Sep 8 Mets vs Nats Kill KILL KILL

[url]http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-inning-that-ended-the-nationals-season/

At one point, with two out and one on in the top of the seventh, the Nationals had a 99.2% expectation of winning the game.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 09 2015 02:53 PM
Re: IGT Tuesday Sep 8 Mets vs Nats Kill KILL KILL

I think the Mets batters should be given credit for making Zimmermann work so hard so that he gets pulled after 5.2 innings and they could then feast on the crappy bullpen.

Edgy MD
Sep 09 2015 03:04 PM
Re: IGT Tuesday Sep 8 Mets vs Nats Kill KILL KILL

I think this thread needs to be framed for posterity.

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Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2015 03:19 PM
Re: IGT Tuesday Sep 8 Mets vs Nats Kill KILL KILL

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I think the Mets batters should be given credit for making Zimmermann work so hard so that he gets pulled after 5.2 innings and they could then feast on the crappy bullpen.


Absolutely. Only in one inning did Zimmermannnn have a below average (< 15) number of pitches thrown and that was the 4th when he got through it with exactly 14.
I also think though that Williams got spooked by Murphy's good career numbers vs Zimm and the memory of a titanic HR hit off him in the last CitiField series all of which pushed him into over-managing a bit. With just one on and two out at the time and a two run lead, I would have let him finish the inning or at least go down trying, but he opted to go left-on-left. Murph hit it hard and they got the out, but then that made for one fewer reliever available an inning later when things started melting down.