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I.G.T. 9/20/15 Harvey gets innings

Ashie62
Sep 19 2015 04:09 PM

Cmon Mets don't drag things out.

LETS GO METS!

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 12:10 AM
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You wanna be a big game pitcher Mattman? Well, let's see what you can do.
This is your most important game, until the playoffs. Don't give me that 5 inning crap.
If it's a tight game and you wuss out you will be appearing on my list of shits.

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Elster88
Sep 20 2015 12:43 AM
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True dat. Let's not spot the other team a 6 run lead this time either. I like the thread title Ashie Larry.

d'Kong76
Sep 20 2015 07:45 AM
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GAME: New York Yankees (81-66) at New York Mets (84-64)
DATE/TIME: Sunday, September 20 - 8:08 PM EST
WHERE: Citi Field, New York City, New York
LINE: N/A TOTAL: N/A
Covers Media Group, Ltd.

The New York Mets aren’t sure how many more starts they will get out of ace Matt Harvey, but they hope for something special from the right-hander in the rubber match of a three-game series with the visiting New York Yankees on Sunday. Harvey limited the Yankees to two runs over 8 2/3 innings in a win earlier this season but isn’t likely to go nearly as deep this time – he is within 8 1/3 innings of the 180-inning limit agent Scott Borass has suggested for his client.

Not knowing what they can expect from Harvey is a difficult situation for the Mets, who remain seven games clear of Washington in the National League East and have trimmed their magic number to eight to clinch the division. The Yankees are safely entrenched as the top wild card in the American League but have some work to do to catch AL East leader Toronto, which has a 3 1/2-game cushion. “We’ve been fighting and fighting,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi told reporters. “I think in a sense we’ve been playing playoff baseball for a while.” The Yankees had lost seven of 10 before homers from Carlos Beltran and Brian McCann powered them to a 5-0 victory Saturday.

TV: 8:08 p.m. ET, ESPN

PITCHING MATCHUP: Yankees LH CC Sabathia (4-9, 4.93 ERA) vs. Mets RH Matt Harvey (12-7, 2.88)

Sabathia is coming off one of his best outings in a difficult season, having held Tampa Bay scoreless over 6 2/3 innings on Monday. He didn’t get enough support to earn the win, though, and is winless in nine starts since July 8. Sabathia is 3-2 with a 3.49 ERA in six career starts against the Mets, but they hammered him for seven runs and nine hits over five innings in a loss earlier this season.

Harvey is making his first start since Sept. 8, when he endured a nightmare outing by allowing seven runs and eight hits over 5 1/3 innings at Washington. The Mets rallied to get him off the hook, but the poor performance didn’t sit well with Mets fans given the 26-year-old’s innings-limit controversy. Harvey has been outstanding in two starts in the Subway Series, going 1-0 with a 1.62 ERA.

WALK-OFFS:
1. Beltran went 2-for-4 with three RBIs on Saturday but is only a .207 hitter in 25 career games against the Mets.
2. Mets OF Yoenis Cespedes, who is 1-for-11 with four strikeouts against Sabathia, is hitless in 16 at-bats over his past four games.
3. Mets RH Tyler Clippard has been unavailable out of the bullpen the past two games after experiencing back tightness while playing catch Friday.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 09:11 AM
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My suspicion is that if Harvey pitches well tonight, the Harvey-hating brigade will say he was just "auditioning for his future team."

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 09:25 AM
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I'm guessing the innings limit won't come into play because he'll be knocked out in the 4th inning. He'll come up small like he did against the Nats.

Not rooting for this mind you, but I think Harvey has this innings stuff in his head right now.

And who's the long man tonight? They used Gilmartin yesterday and Verrett's pitching Tuesday for deGrom. If the Dark Knight doesn't go at least 6 this may cause issues.

Gwreck
Sep 20 2015 11:48 AM
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Dillon Gee?

Oh, wait, never mind.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 01:25 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
I'm guessing the innings limit won't come into play because he'll be knocked out in the 4th inning. He'll come up small like he did against the Nats.

Not rooting for this mind you, but I think Harvey has this innings stuff in his head right now.

And who's the long man tonight? They used Gilmartin yesterday and Verrett's pitching Tuesday for deGrom. If the Dark Knight doesn't go at least 6 this may cause issues.

The Mets have 18 pitchers. They'll muddle through somehow.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 01:31 PM
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And by the looks of how things are going in Washington, we're gonna need this one.

MFS62
Sep 20 2015 02:07 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
And by the looks of how things are going in Washington, we're gonna need this one.

They've scored 10 runs without a Ramos grand slam? Well, the game's not over, so it still could happen.
And the Washington team that doesn't want to give up their perpetual Native American insult also won.

Later

d'Kong76
Sep 20 2015 02:25 PM
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Tejada, SS
Wright, 3B
Cespedes, LF
Uribe, 2B
d'Arnaud, C
Duda, 1B
Cuddyer, RF
Lagares, CF
Harvey, P

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 02:31 PM
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Me gusta Cespedes en el tercer hoyo.

Duda es el zurdo solo.

d'Kong76
Sep 20 2015 02:36 PM
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¡Los Yankees tienen miedo de poner un cartel!

d'Kong76
Sep 20 2015 03:06 PM
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Ellsbury, CF
Gardner, LF
Beltran, RF
McCann, C
Bird, 1B
Headley, 3B
Ackley, 2B
Gregorius, SS
Sabathia, P

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 03:20 PM
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What's the Over/Under on pitchers and 2nd basemen used by Girardi tonight?
Yesterday the totals were 7 & 4 for a game that was never close after the 3rd batter.
Managers just learning the non-DH game are so cute, they're like kids with a new toy employing double switches at each opportunity whether it makes any sense or not.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 03:39 PM
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Mets announcers were all "It's not Girardi's fault — it's the system that allows him to do it."

Come on, men. Don't be Girardipologists!

I'm hoping he uses fifty pitchers tonight, of course.

MFS62
Sep 20 2015 03:46 PM
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Crap! Boston beat the Jays again today.
Girardi might use 60 pitchers.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 04:02 PM
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This late night game after an early day game is a killer. So much time to wallow in the pathetic offensive showing.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 05:04 PM
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Yeah, day game Saturday and night game Sunday just doesn't compute at all.

And the official start time is listed as "8:08 PM." Seriously? 8:08?

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 05:22 PM
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A tribute to the acid house pioneers 808 State, no doubt.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 05:51 PM
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Drinking game: Every time you hear the ESPN announcers say the words "Pitch count," take a sip. If you take a full drink, you'll be blotto by the bottom of the first.

Is there something wrong with Granderson? Seems like an odd night to give him a rest and put Tejada in the leadoff spot.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 06:04 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Is there something wrong with Granderson? Seems like an odd night to give him a rest and put Tejada in the leadoff spot.

He has LHP disease.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:06 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Is there something wrong with Granderson? Seems like an odd night to give him a rest and put Tejada in the leadoff spot.

He has LHP disease.

Ah. Of course.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 06:08 PM
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Fatty, Baldy and Squid Face with the call tonight.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 06:09 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Is there something wrong with Granderson? Seems like an odd night to give him a rest and put Tejada in the leadoff spot.

He has LHP disease.

The fact that T was inserted lead off makes me think it was a last minute move. I know Lags hasn't been the best at the plate but I'd still give him this lead-off opportunity. Mostly because they were grooming him to be a lead off guy back in spring training.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 06:09 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 20 2015 07:25 PM

Double posts are sucky.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 06:10 PM
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OE: Murph goes with the more traditional 8:10 start.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:12 PM
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Nice K.

And the total opposite pitch from what Kruk said was coming.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:13 PM
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Nice K again!

d'Kong76
Sep 20 2015 06:13 PM
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I'm not gonna last long on tv, that strike zone is too much like a
video game for my taste.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 06:14 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Is there something wrong with Granderson? Seems like an odd night to give him a rest and put Tejada in the leadoff spot.

He has LHP disease.

The fact that T was inserted lead off makes me think it was a last minute move. I know Lags hasn't been the best at the plate but I'd still give him this lead-off opportunity. Mostly because they were grooming him to be a lead off guy back in spring training.

A 55-point edge in OBP for Tejada over Lagares.
You want guys on base in front of Cespedes/Wright 29% of the time or 35% ?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:15 PM
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Nice start, Matt!

Now, let's see the offense explode so Harvey doesn't need to stick around more than 5.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 06:15 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
I'm not gonna last long on tv, that strike zone is too much like a
video game for my taste.

Eh, I don't mind it.
Unlike most things ESPN/other sports channels do with their graphic toys and displays, this one is reasonably unobtrusive.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 06:18 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Now, let's see the offense explode so Harvey doesn't need to stick around more than 5.

One thing that makes innings count less meaningful is 11 pitch innings like he had in the 1st.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:18 PM
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Now, let me be clear, I wasn't OBJECTING to Tejada batting leadoff.

:)

Gwreck
Sep 20 2015 06:19 PM
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Tejada leading off? Terry's a genius

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 06:20 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Is there something wrong with Granderson? Seems like an odd night to give him a rest and put Tejada in the leadoff spot.

He has LHP disease.

The fact that T was inserted lead off makes me think it was a last minute move. I know Lags hasn't been the best at the plate but I'd still give him this lead-off opportunity. Mostly because they were grooming him to be a lead off guy back in spring training.

A 55-point edge in OBP for Tejada over Lagares.
You want guys on base in front of Cespedes/Wright 29% of the time or 35% ?

Well, my argument is mutedly moot since T starts the game with a 2 bagger. TC: manager of the year.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:20 PM
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I heart David Wright!

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 06:21 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Nice K.

And the total opposite pitch from what Kruk said was coming.

Kruk is so, so bad,

Tejada, however, making Terry look like a genius. And Wright drives him in!

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 06:21 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
d'Kong76 wrote:
I'm not gonna last long on tv, that strike zone is too much like a
video game for my taste.

Eh, I don't mind it.
Unlike most things ESPN/other sports channels do with their graphic toys and displays, this one is reasonably unobtrusive.

Totally agree.

d'Kong76
Sep 20 2015 06:23 PM
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It would help if the strike zone for a 5'10" guy wasn't the
same as a 6'4" guy. Find it annoying, but I'm cranky. :-)

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:24 PM
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Uribe is not your typical cleanup hitter. But after the Tejada double, I can't question TC.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:27 PM
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Bad ass pigeon walking around the on deck circle like nothings going on. We are an animal friendly ballpark.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 06:28 PM
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Tejada is a fine choice.

I also like seeing d'Arnaud up with two out and a duck out there.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 06:34 PM
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Twenty-eight pitches down and Cuddy up with the bags loaded.

Long bottom of the first going on. Girardi may get to fifty pitchers after all.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:36 PM
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Cuddy. Plegh.

I fear not getting more runs there will come back to bite.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 06:37 PM
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Cuddy had one real nice meatball to hit there during that at-bat.
Boooo!

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 06:37 PM
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Frustrating inning. They let him off the hook. Cuddyer is atrocious.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 06:40 PM
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wow. What a play.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:40 PM
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Wow, that was cool!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:42 PM
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LOL Girardi.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 06:44 PM
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How did G not get tossed there? When he ran out I figured his plan was to get tossed.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 06:46 PM
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Uribe is awesome.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 06:48 PM
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I wish they'd stop talking about the Boras/innings thing. There's a game going on, guys.

d'Kong76
Sep 20 2015 06:53 PM
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Stephania folks, Stephania all over the important baseball stuff
for us. Give it up for Stephania!

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 06:54 PM
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and CC comes back with a 1-2-3 inning. Not pounding him in the first may come back to haunt.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 06:56 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
I wish they'd stop talking about the Boras/innings thing. There's a game going on, guys.

But ESPN doesn't broadcast games, they broadcast stories.

So with the news that Tanaka is out for his next start due to a slight hamstring strain on account of bunting, have the Yanx sued the league yet, or petitioned the Supreme Court, or at least gone to Judge Judy over the fact that playing in an NL park is ruining their season? Remember one of the Steinbrenner boys whining about that when CM Wang was injured running a couple years back.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 06:57 PM
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AS ChiSox broadcaster Hawk Harrelson would say on that Gregorius drive to CF: We got a man there

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 20 2015 06:58 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
LOL Girardi.

I'm not sure how good my lip-reading skills are, but I think the umpire said "Shut up!" and Girardi came out of the dugout saying, "Don't tell me to shut up!"

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 06:58 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Stephania folks, Stephania all over the important baseball stuff
for us. Give it up for Stephania!

She was the fantasy guru last year. Good for her getting that medical degree in the offseason.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 07:02 PM
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I didn't even realize Uribe was playing second. If he's too hurt to continue maybe d'Arnaud can finish the game there.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 07:08 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
I wish they'd stop talking about the Boras/innings thing. There's a game going on, guys.

Dude, it's ESPN. We're lucky they haven't talked about football all night. "You know, Cuddyer kind of reminds me of RGIII..."

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 07:10 PM
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Nice at-bat by Beltran. Luckily it ended in a good way!

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 07:12 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Nice at-bat by Beltran. Luckily it ended in a good way!

He did make Harvey work.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 07:15 PM
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I wonder who is going to win best direction for a special or limited series.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 07:15 PM
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Hey! So Yo's slump is all mis-educated Tom Koehler's fault! He hasn't got a hit since being drilled!

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 07:23 PM
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Ugh. These broadcasters. For fuck's sake.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 07:27 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Hey! So Yo's slump is all mis-educated Tom Koehler's fault! He hasn't got a hit since being drilled!

He's in some kind of funk. I blame subpar broadcasting by the ESPN booth.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 07:27 PM
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It's quite a feat to broadcast a game without actually, you know, watching it.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 07:31 PM
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Cuddy with the two out double. C'mon, you Mets. Kill KILL KILL

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 07:35 PM
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Colon has better at-bats than you, Harvey.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 07:40 PM
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TC goes on the record. If Harvey leaves a 1-0 game after 5 he goes on the shit list. Im not getting all caught up in what's being said about the pitch limit, but by what he does, and if he can't go at least 7 here he's a bum.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 07:40 PM
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Wait, is there some kind of pitch count? Why haven't I heard about it before?

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 07:43 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
Wait, is there some kind of pitch count? Why haven't I heard about it before?

ha.

It's been an inning count that's been tossed around, right? Not a pitch count. That I don't understand.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 07:47 PM
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Done after 5. If the bullpen chunks this up I'll be pissed. They're not scoring any more off of CC the Hutt.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 07:47 PM
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Time for the offense to pick it up.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 07:49 PM
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Confused by the Mets inability to score more against Pudgy the Wonder Lefty. His ERA is bigger than his underpants.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 07:50 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Done after 5. If the bullpen chunks this up I'll be pissed. They're not scoring any more off of CC the Hutt.

I agree. Except we are gonna score. Duda's gonna hit a bomb. Maybe 2!

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 07:52 PM
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Cespedes gets a hit. And the people rejoiced.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 07:53 PM
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Yo breaks loose! Now let's pick him up and get him home.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 07:55 PM
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Rats, Murph!

Sabbathia's close to 100 pitches. I bet he's done.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 07:57 PM
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Don't understand why they didn't put Flores instead of Murphy. Daniel had no chance there.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 07:59 PM
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Oh, Murph!

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 08:00 PM
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Fuck. Omar Vizquel, you are not.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:00 PM
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tsk tsk

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:00 PM
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Looks like Tejada would have been there and held up.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 08:00 PM
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Murph with the brain fart. Again.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:01 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Murph with the brain fart. Again.

I think he had to try and throw him out there as opposed to eating it.OH NOOOOOOO.Wright dropped it!!!!!!!!!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:02 PM
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C'mom, guys!

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 08:02 PM
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UGH AGAIN

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 08:03 PM
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Yeah, good thing we took our starter out after 80 pitches. Fucking genius.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:03 PM
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Dammit.

Awful.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:04 PM
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I don't think you can blame Robles for the two errors.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 08:04 PM
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Goddammit.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:05 PM
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And all of this will be blamed on Harvey. The NY media is going to crucify him.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:05 PM
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Hey, I know what's let's do! Let's throw away the game, throw away the series, throw away the division, and throw away the season. That'll be fun, right?

Gwreck
Sep 20 2015 08:05 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
I don't think you can blame Robles for the two errors.

One run scores even without the errors. But not both.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:07 PM
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Falling apart.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 08:07 PM
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Geez, at least make these fuckers earn it! They have one freaking hit out of the infield all game and they're about to go up by multiple runs!!

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 08:09 PM
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Boy, they better come out loaded for bear against the Braves, Reds and Phils.

HahnSolo
Sep 20 2015 08:10 PM
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Not all his fault, but this outing could really put a crimp on my Robles man-crush.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 08:11 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 20 2015 08:12 PM

YUK

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:12 PM
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* hangs head

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:12 PM
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Well, it was a nice game there for a while.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 08:13 PM
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Scott Boras, pitcher of record.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 20 2015 08:13 PM
Re: I.G.T. 9/20/15 Harvey gets innings

Bring me the head of Scott Boras.

HahnSolo
Sep 20 2015 08:14 PM
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HahnSolo wrote:
Not all his fault, but this outing could really put a crimp on my Robles man-crush.

Relationship status: It's complicated.

seawolf17
Sep 20 2015 08:15 PM
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This isn't Boras's fault. This is all on Terry & Sandy. Let the fuckin' guy pitch, fellas.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 08:15 PM
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Well we're not going to win scoring 1 run in 15 innings against a shitty staff anyway.
Making six errors, two mistakes, and four boo-boos in an inning with a few fuck-ups thrown in for good measure just makes sure of it.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:16 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
This isn't Boras's fault. This is all on Terry & Sandy. Let the fuckin' guy pitch, fellas.

This. Harvey wanted to pitch. Harvey was able to pitch. Harvey was pitching well. They should've let him pitch.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:21 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
This isn't Boras's fault. This is all on Terry & Sandy. Let the fuckin' guy pitch, fellas.

This. Harvey wanted to pitch. Harvey was able to pitch. Harvey was pitching well. They should've let him pitch.

Then Harvey should have went to TC b4 the game and said: if I have to , if its a close game, I'll give u 7.

HahnSolo
Sep 20 2015 08:22 PM
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That could not possibly have been a more pathetic AB by d'Arnaud leading off there.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:22 PM
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I liked it better when the Mets got lots of hits and scored lots of runs.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 08:24 PM
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This is infuriating. I didn't think it would be, but it is.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 08:25 PM
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1) Not making them get actual hits in order to score runs
2) Not making them get the ball in the strike zone in order to record strikeouts

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 08:27 PM
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This game is a real cock softener.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 08:30 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
This game is a real cock softener.

Say it ain't so!

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:30 PM
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Elster88 wrote:
This is infuriating. I didn't think it would be, but it is.

I know exactly what you mean. I was keeping my feelings in check, not sure how it would go as it went down with this pitch limit stuff. And this ended up being the worst possible scenario. Up 1-0. And he only gave up 1 freakin hit. 1! And Harvey could not speak for himself and say "I'm staying in"? I think he could have and should have.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:34 PM
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So, how is O'Flaherty getting innings in a game we still hope to win?

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:34 PM
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How do you know he didn't? Ultimately he doesn't get the choice.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:39 PM
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Seriously, did that pitch even clear the grass?

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 08:40 PM
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I'm tired of even discussing Harvey - especially when the bats are 1-for-14 w/RiSP this series (the 1st inning Wright 2B).
Not sure which is worse, the one hit part or the fact that we've only had 14 ABs w/RiSP over 25 innings.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:40 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
How do you know he didn't? Ultimately he doesn't get the choice.

He's not a child. He's an adult. I feel that ultimately the choice should be his.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 08:41 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
How do you know he didn't? Ultimately he doesn't get the choice.

He's not a child. He's an adult. I feel that ultimately the choice should be his.

Are all the choices you make at your job your own?

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:42 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Zvon wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
How do you know he didn't? Ultimately he doesn't get the choice.

He's not a child. He's an adult. I feel that ultimately the choice should be his.

Are all the choices you make at your job your own?

Point taken. It does not alleviate my anguish though.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:46 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
How do you know he didn't? Ultimately he doesn't get the choice.

He's not a child. He's an adult. I feel that ultimately the choice should be his.

That's ridiculous. Terry Collins is the manager. He makes the decisions. Harvey, like pretty much every pitcher in baseball, will always insist that he can pitch longer. It's the manger's decision to decide when to pull a pitcher or leave him in. Collins made the wrong decision tonight based on crappy organizational policy. But in general, we'd crucify and manager who lets the pitcher tell him he wants to stay in the game.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2015 08:46 PM
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Just a reminder that this is a [u:9ram1tgt]ONE HIT[/u:9ram1tgt] inning for the Yanx.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 08:46 PM
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It seems like Terry has been B-teaming this all night.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:48 PM
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HEY METS, SCORE SOME FUCKING RUNS!!!!!!

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:49 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
How do you know he didn't? Ultimately he doesn't get the choice.

He's not a child. He's an adult. I feel that ultimately the choice should be his.

That's ridiculous. Terry Collins is the manager. He makes the decisions. Harvey, like pretty much every pitcher in baseball, will always insist that he can pitch longer. It's the manger's decision to decide when to pull a pitcher or leave him in. Collins made the wrong decision tonight based on crappy organizational policy. But in general, we'd crucify and manager who lets the pitcher tell him he wants to stay in the game.

This is not your average situation for a pitcher. I can't look at it that way.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 08:49 PM
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I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:50 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Just a reminder that this is a ONE HIT inning for the Yanx.

*Head spins

K, I'll calm down.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 08:52 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
How do you know he didn't? Ultimately he doesn't get the choice.

He's not a child. He's an adult. I feel that ultimately the choice should be his.

That's ridiculous. Terry Collins is the manager. He makes the decisions. Harvey, like pretty much every pitcher in baseball, will always insist that he can pitch longer. It's the manger's decision to decide when to pull a pitcher or leave him in. Collins made the wrong decision tonight based on crappy organizational policy. But in general, we'd crucify and manager who lets the pitcher tell him he wants to stay in the game.

You don't think Terry had to hear from Sandy and Jeffy? Terry was hamstrung by Harvey's implicit approval of Boras' three ring circus.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:54 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

The radio guys said that Harvey looked upset about being taken out, but that he should've expected this since it was the plan. Apparently whatever broadcast Zvon is watching showed Harvey kickin' back with a brew saying "I'm done, bro!"

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 08:56 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

I think you are right. I have thoughts on this.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 08:57 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

The radio guys said that Harvey looked upset about being taken out, but that he should've expected this since it was the plan. Apparently whatever broadcast Zvon is watching showed Harvey kickin' back with a brew saying "I'm done, bro!"

He didn't look upset at all. He was sitting there with the same expression he always has.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 08:58 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

The radio guys said that Harvey looked upset about being taken out, but that he should've expected this since it was the plan. Apparently whatever broadcast Zvon is watching showed Harvey kickin' back with a brew saying "I'm done, bro!"

No. But what I hoped to see was Harvey saying:" Hey, I'm a big boy. I can make my own decisions. I'm at 80 pitches. I'm good for at least one more inning."
And bottom line we really don't know what was said. We can speculate.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 08:58 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Just a reminder that this is a ONE HIT inning for the Yanx.

Agreed. Robles didn't do anything wrong. The silliness of the whole thing is what irks me. And losing the game was infuriating.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 08:59 PM
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Elster88 wrote:
You don't think Terry had to hear from Sandy and Jeffy?

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Collins made the wrong decision tonight based on crappy organizational policy

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 09:01 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

The radio guys said that Harvey looked upset about being taken out, but that he should've expected this since it was the plan. Apparently whatever broadcast Zvon is watching showed Harvey kickin' back with a brew saying "I'm done, bro!"

No. But what I hoped to see was Harvey saying:" Hey, I'm a big boy. I can make my own decisions. I'm at 80 pitches. I'm good for at least one more inning."
And bottom line we really don't know what was said. We can speculate.

Yes, because you're angry at Harvey for not doing something that you cannot possibly know whether he's done it or not.

Because Mets fans have to hate their best players. And make them media laughingstocks. And make them want out of the organizations ASAP.

Because we can't have nice things.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 09:03 PM
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Mets could have made (and still can make) this an actual issue by showing some stick.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 09:05 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 20 2015 09:11 PM

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
You don't think Terry had to hear from Sandy and Jeffy?

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Collins made the wrong decision tonight based on crappy organizational policy

Sounds like we agree. It's odd that the take of the ESPN announcers (and the radio guys I guess?) was that Harvey didn't want to come out. If he didn't want to abide by the plan for a short day he could've told his agent and doctor to go fuck themselves in advance of the game.

I totally understand his decision by the way. If a doctor tells me I could screw up my arm before I get my 200 million contract by pitching too much I would be nervous too. But it's his decision and for the ESPN booth to say he looked like he didn't want to come out it odd, because this is the result of a couple of weeks of discussion that started with his agent opening his big mouth. Well actually it's not odd on ESPN's part, I expect them to not know what's going on in the world or to think before they speak. But I'm surprised that the radio guys are saying the same stuff too.

Did no one point out that if he's annoyed at coming out that he should just realize that it's really his own fault/doing by going along with the limit? Maybe he regrets his decision now that he's in the game and it's actually happening, if so he should remember that for the next start.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Sep 20 2015 09:07 PM
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Can't...take...any...more...

Goodnight.

Elster88
Sep 20 2015 09:09 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

The radio guys said that Harvey looked upset about being taken out, but that he should've expected this since it was the plan. Apparently whatever broadcast Zvon is watching showed Harvey kickin' back with a brew saying "I'm done, bro!"

No. But what I hoped to see was Harvey saying:" Hey, I'm a big boy. I can make my own decisions. I'm at 80 pitches. I'm good for at least one more inning."
And bottom line we really don't know what was said. We can speculate.

Yes, because you're angry at Harvey for not doing something that you cannot possibly know whether he's done it or not.

Because Mets fans have to hate their best players. And make them media laughingstocks. And make them want out of the organizations ASAP.

Because we can't have nice things.

I know this isn't directed at me... But I agree with you. I want Harvey to pitch here for many years to come.

Fman99
Sep 20 2015 09:09 PM
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I blame the red staters for all of this.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 09:12 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I think a lot of announcers have drawn inferences from how he seemed to have responded.

The radio guys said that Harvey looked upset about being taken out, but that he should've expected this since it was the plan. Apparently whatever broadcast Zvon is watching showed Harvey kickin' back with a brew saying "I'm done, bro!"

No. But what I hoped to see was Harvey saying:" Hey, I'm a big boy. I can make my own decisions. I'm at 80 pitches. I'm good for at least one more inning."
And bottom line we really don't know what was said. We can speculate.

Yes, because you're angry at Harvey for not doing something that you cannot possibly know whether he's done it or not.

Because Mets fans have to hate their best players. And make them media laughingstocks. And make them want out of the organizations ASAP.

Because we can't have nice things.

Come on. You know what kind of Mets fan I am. I don't diss my own players. I'm always optimistic. And I don't hate Harvey. This is an unprecedented situation as a Mets fan, this 5 innings and out stuff during a pennant race. I'm more disappointed with Harvey than angry. When it came to crunch time I expected him to step up and stay in.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 20 2015 09:18 PM
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What a disgraceful effort tonight by our guys.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 09:23 PM
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Okay, I'm putting on my lucky Mets jersey (over my kool Mets hoodie which I thought would be enough).

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 09:25 PM
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A RUN!

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 09:26 PM
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Should I go get my awesome Seaver 69 jersey and put it on on top of the hoodie and the 86 jersey?

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 09:30 PM
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My radio feed has a terrifically misguided series of Flo-starring Progressive ads that make this evening all the more misbegotten.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 09:40 PM
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I don't even know why I'm getting my blood up. This was not a must win game for us. We have some soft teams coming up. I'm still very confident that we will make the post.

But if things go south between now and Oct. this will be pointed at as the turning point and Harvey's career in a Mets uniform might never recover from the flack.

themetfairy
Sep 20 2015 09:49 PM
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The Magic Number is 8 with 13 to play.

The math is on our side.

Zvon
Sep 20 2015 09:50 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 20 2015 09:52 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I don't even know why I'm getting my blood up. This was not a must win game for us. We have some soft teams coming up. I'm still very confident that we will make the post.

But if things go south between now and Oct. this will be pointed at as the turning point and Harvey's career in a Mets uniform might never recover from the flack.

Oh let's not sugar coat it, it's a disgrace. Allowed the MFYs to gain a game on Toronto going into their series -- when they could and should have destroyed thier chances. And even if you don't care how much help the Mets gave the MFYs, we lost games to Washington and failed to take opportunities to better position ourselves vs. LA for the postseason. More to the point, we hit, pitched and fielded poorly.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 09:58 PM
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Harvey was the only good Met in this game. Everyone else sucked.

At any rate, we'll laugh about this one in October.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 20 2015 09:59 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
My radio feed has a terrifically misguided series of Flo-starring Progressive ads that make this evening all the more misbegotten.

Those ads actually make me laugh. I'd be worse off without them.

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2015 11:49 PM
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I'm glad. I was thinking she was missing on this series. I'll let her know otherwise, least as far as Massachusetts is concerned.

Good people paid good money, Mets. Don't be fuckin' around.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 21 2015 05:54 AM
Re: I.G.T. 9/20/15 Harvey gets innings

Fman99 wrote:
This game is a real cock softener.

More like a stool softener.

Edgy MD
Sep 21 2015 07:13 AM
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I wish.

El Segundo Escupidor
Sep 21 2015 07:14 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Zvon wrote:
I don't even know why I'm getting my blood up. This was not a must win game for us. We have some soft teams coming up. I'm still very confident that we will make the post.

But if things go south between now and Oct. this will be pointed at as the turning point and Harvey's career in a Mets uniform might never recover from the flack.

Oh let's not sugar coat it, it's a disgrace. Allowed the MFYs to gain a game on Toronto going into their series -- when they could and should have destroyed thier chances. And even if you don't care how much help the Mets gave the MFYs, we lost games to Washington and failed to take opportunities to better position ourselves vs. LA for the postseason. More to the point, we hit, pitched and fielded poorly.

Right now this team's somewhere in between "we can turn it on whenever we want" and "when we sip a little champagne later on, it'll be a little sweeter" --the faster they realize this, the better.

If this team doesn’t make the playoffs everybody’s point to how they lost ascendency in the Marlins series. When a team plunks your best hitter in the middle of a pennant race, you go out and plunk 3 hitters the next day-- just like Maddon’s team did. You don’t go out and do a Shawn Estes and call it even.

There’s no chivalry in professional sports, much less in baseball.

Ashie62
Sep 21 2015 08:02 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
This isn't Boras's fault. This is all on Terry & Sandy. Let the fuckin' guy pitch, fellas.

This.

Elster88
Sep 21 2015 10:08 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
This isn't Boras's fault. This is all on Terry & Sandy. Let the fuckin' guy pitch, fellas.

This.

Boras started it, Harvey passively endorsed it. I don't know you expect Terry to do. Go against everyone and refuse to take Harvey out? Start another media firestorm? Will that work?

And what can Sandy do here? Fire Terry, make himself manager, and have Harvey pitch the whole game? Do you think Sandy ordering Terry to make Harvey pitch the whole game is the solution?

It all started with the agent and the player.

Chad Ochoseis
Sep 22 2015 03:27 AM
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El Segundo Escupidor wrote:

If this team doesn’t make the playoffs everybody’s point to how they lost ascendency in the Marlins series. When a team plunks your best hitter in the middle of a pennant race, you go out and plunk 3 hitters the next day-- just like Maddon’s team did. You don’t go out and do a Shawn Estes and call it even.

There’s no chivalry in professional sports, much less in baseball.

And the Thunder from Down Under returns!

I dunno. I don't think it's ever a good thing to throw a rock 100 miles an hour at someone. I didn't see the Cespedes HBP, but if it it's deliberate, fine. Charge the mound. Start a bench clearing brawl if needed. It's fairer than throwing at some other guy who had nothing to do with it.

And shutting the other guys out while hitting a home run is damned good revenge.

But, never mind that. Welcome back.