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Cubs - Cardinals IST

Gwreck Oct 09 2015 06:43 PM

St. Louis up 1-0. Schwarber bunts against shift, gets lead off single in 7th...but then strikeout and Rizzo GIDP.

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2015 06:49 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Watching Lackey be good must drive Boston fans nuts. Typical Cardinal acquisition: they get him at age 35 and his Hits/9 goes down, K/9 goes up, ERA goes down (3.10 at StL vs 4.46 in BOS), WHiP goes down - and they're paying him a lot less than Boston.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 09 2015 07:09 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Ugh

Edgy MD Oct 09 2015 07:32 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Bryant shouldn't have green swinging 2-0.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 10 2015 05:19 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

So... yanking Hendricks after 4 2/3 after gopher balls, with a three-run lead? Certainly the proactive approach, it is.

Elster88 Oct 10 2015 06:35 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

If the Cubs win they will have a better record than whichever division winner they play. Who gets home field advantage? Division winner or wildcard with the better record?

Gwreck Oct 10 2015 06:57 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Wildcard can never have home-field advantage.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 10 2015 06:57 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Except in the World Series.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 13 2015 04:44 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Be sure to check out Soler throwing out Cruz at home. Gunned down Vlad Guerrero- style it's currently 5-4 Cubs in the top of the 7th

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2015 05:11 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

And now it's 6-4 but it should be more as that HR by Schwarber should have counted for like 6 runs on distance alone despite the bases being empty.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 13 2015 05:24 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Frayed Knot wrote: And now it's 6-4 but it should be more as that HR by Schwarber should have counted for like 6 runs on distance alone despite the bases being empty. That's how much they're worth in cricket. You would expect that in a game involving a team that doesn't know how to die versus a team that revels in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, there will be one final twist.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2015 05:26 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

El Segundo Escupidor wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: And now it's 6-4 but it should be more as that HR by Schwarber should have counted for like 6 runs on distance alone despite the bases being empty. That's how much they're worth in cricket. I'd be lying if I were to claim to have known that.

d'Kong76 Oct 13 2015 05:51 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Cubs advance, thought the Cards would have put up a better showing than they did but that's baseball.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 13 2015 05:58 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Maddon vs Collins is not going to be a fair or pretty fight.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2015 06:39 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Well we know our opponent. Now all we have to do is make sure we'll BE that opponent.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 13 2015 06:59 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Yes. And that's not going to be easy.

Elster88 Oct 13 2015 08:06 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Back to the future

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2015 09:26 AM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

The dumb 'stat' of the day that seems to be getting lots of run this morning is the one about last night being the first post-season clinching game at Wrigley Field EVER!!!! Ummm yeah, ya wanna know why? Because the Cubs had only won ONE post-season SERIES since the building of Wrigley until last night, beating the Braves 3 games to 1 in the 1st round of 2003 and, although they won 2 games out of 3 at home in that series, the clincher for that one was in Atlanta. In fact most "records" which involve the phrase 'post-season' are dumb. Numerous talking heads were crowing about 'Most HRs in one post-season day' a couple days ago. Think that might have anything to do with the idea that four games in a day didn't exist until three years back? Looking through the Cubs record, their two wins over the Cards this week give them just [u:3qsc9leq]10 post-season Games[/u:3qsc9leq] in the history of Wrigley. The Cubs won the WS in 1907 & 08 while getting there but losing in 1906 & 1910. But those were all prior to Wrigley being built (1914). They then got to the WS again in 1918 but switched their home games to the more spacious Comiskey Park (and lost 2 of the 3 home games anyway). So the first WS games to be played at Wrigley were in 1929 when lost to the A's in six games including going 0-2 at home. Went 0-2 at home again in 1932; 1-2 in 1935; 0-2 in 1938; and 1-3 in 1945 Since the advent of expanded post-season they've lost six series and now have won their second while going 8-9 in home games.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2015 04:39 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

The still quirky but less dumb stat of the day from out of the StL/CHC series. The 1986 Mets remain the [u:27q7od2d]last NL club[/u:27q7od2d] to win 100 or more games AND win the WS that same year. 100+ has been reached 15 times since, including this season's 100-win Cardinals team, but none of those teams went on the win the WS 1) 1988 NYM - 100 wins, lost in NLCS 2 & 3) 1993 Braves - 104 wins, lost to PHI in NLCS -- also the SFG that same year who won 103 but didn't even qualify for the playoffs in that final non-WC year 4) 1997 Braves - 101 wins, lost to Marlins in NLCS 5 & 6) 1998 Braves - 106 wins, lost to SDP in NLCS -- also 102 win Astros who lost to SDP in NLDS 7 & 8) 1999 Braves - 103 wins, lost to NYY in WS -- also the 100 win DBacks who lost to the Mets in NLDS 9) 2002 Braves - 101 wins, lost to SFG in NLDS 10 & 11) 2003 Braves - 101 wins, lost to (88 win) Cubs in NLDS -- also the 100 win Giants who lost to Anaheim in the WS 12) 2004 Cardinals - 105 wins, lost to Boston in WS 13) 2005 Cardinals - 100 wins, lost to Houston in NLCS 14) 2012 Phillies - 102 wins, lost to StL in NLDS 15) 2015 Cardinals - 100 wins, lost to Cubs in NLDS

batmagadanleadoff Oct 14 2015 04:46 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

Frayed Knot wrote: The still quirky but less dumb stat of the day from out of the StL/CHC series. The 1986 Mets remain the last NL club to win 100 or more games AND win the WS that same year. 100+ has been reached 15 times since, including this season's 100-win Cardinals team, but none of those teams went on the win the WS 1) 1988 NYM - 100 wins, lost in NLCS 2 & 3) 1993 Braves - 104 wins, lost to PHI in NLCS -- also the SFG that same year who won 103 but didn't even qualify for the playoffs in that final non-WC year 4) 1997 Braves - 101 wins, lost to Marlins in NLCS 5 & 6) 1998 Braves - 106 wins, lost to SDP in NLCS -- also 102 win Astros who lost to SDP in NLDS 7 & 8) 1999 Braves - 103 wins, lost to NYY in WS -- also the 100 win DBacks who lost to the Mets in NLDS 9) 2002 Braves - 101 wins, lost to SFG in NLDS 10 & 11) 2003 Braves - 101 wins, lost to (88 win) Cubs in NLDS -- also the 100 win Giants who lost to Anaheim in the WS 12) 2004 Cardinals - 105 wins, lost to Boston in WS 13) 2005 Cardinals - 100 wins, lost to Houston in NLCS 14) 2012 Phillies - 102 wins, lost to StL in NLDS 15) 2015 Cardinals - 100 wins, lost to Cubs in NLDS No surprise here. That list is comprised almost entirely of wild card era teams. Just another reason why I can't stand expanded playoffs in baseball. It cheapens the season and the game. Did the commentators give any reason for why 100 win teams aren't winning the WS?

Zvon Oct 14 2015 04:49 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: The still quirky but less dumb stat of the day from out of the StL/CHC series. The 1986 Mets remain the last NL club to win 100 or more games AND win the WS that same year. 100+ has been reached 15 times since, including this season's 100-win Cardinals team, but none of those teams went on the win the WS 1) 1988 NYM - 100 wins, lost in NLCS 2 & 3) 1993 Braves - 104 wins, lost to PHI in NLCS -- also the SFG that same year who won 103 but didn't even qualify for the playoffs in that final non-WC year 4) 1997 Braves - 101 wins, lost to Marlins in NLCS 5 & 6) 1998 Braves - 106 wins, lost to SDP in NLCS -- also 102 win Astros who lost to SDP in NLDS 7 & 8) 1999 Braves - 103 wins, lost to NYY in WS -- also the 100 win DBacks who lost to the Mets in NLDS 9) 2002 Braves - 101 wins, lost to SFG in NLDS 10 & 11) 2003 Braves - 101 wins, lost to (88 win) Cubs in NLDS -- also the 100 win Giants who lost to Anaheim in the WS 12) 2004 Cardinals - 105 wins, lost to Boston in WS 13) 2005 Cardinals - 100 wins, lost to Houston in NLCS 14) 2012 Phillies - 102 wins, lost to StL in NLDS 15) 2015 Cardinals - 100 wins, lost to Cubs in NLDS No surprise here. That list is comprised almost entirely of wild card era teams. Just another reason why I can't stand expanded playoffs in baseball. It cheapens the season and the game. Did the commentators give any reason for why 100 win teams aren't winning the WS? Yea, cause it's baseball.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2015 05:05 PM Re: Cubs - Cardinals IST

That list is comprised almost entirely of wild card era teams. Well of course it is! Any list of anything dealing with anything with the qualifier 'since 1986' is going to comprise of mostly WC era seasons. Although if you want to get technical here: there have been 30 seasons since 1986, 28 really since we should throw out the shortened innings of '94 & '95 which made winning 100 much harder. So 7 of those 28 (25%) were non-WC years and 3 of the 100+ win misses (20%) were from that era. That's a higher rate since the additional rounds were added, but not absurdly so. Point being that it happened prior to the WC era too. Did the commentators give any reason for why 100 win teams aren't winning the WS? Just saw the stat somewhere, didn't hear commentary on it. But I'm guessing that it has something to do with teams having two or three chances to lose instead of just one, but I'd have to study up on it further to know for sure.