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Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Centerfield Oct 13 2015 09:17 AM

I know he's kind of locked into his position having defended himself against Ernie Johnson and Ron on Saturday, but he brought it up again. Despite the league having ruled it illegal. Despite anyone not affiliated with the Dodgers or Phillies calling it a cheap shot. I get that he's a proud man, and I'm sure he's aware that public opinion is not with him. But that still makes him a stupid douchebag. And he can eat my asshole.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 13 2015 09:24 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Do you really want him to do that? I mean, if he was willing, would you let him?

seawolf17 Oct 13 2015 09:27 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Centerfield wrote: I know he's kind of locked into his position having defended himself against Ernie Johnson and Ron on Saturday, but he brought it up again. Despite the league having ruled it illegal. Despite anyone not affiliated with the Dodgers or Phillies calling it a cheap shot. I get that he's a proud man, and I'm sure he's aware that public opinion is not with him. But that still makes him a stupid douchebag. And he can eat my asshole. I was literally stunned when I realized it was Cal Ripken on the broadcast. He's a complete idiot up there.

Edgy MD Oct 13 2015 09:32 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Where some people might prefer a bidet, Centerfield only uses Hall of Famers to do that sort of hygiene.

Lefty Specialist Oct 13 2015 10:01 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 13 2015 10:55 AM

Cal got himself so far down the rabbit hole defending Utley he can't find his way out. So everything he says just makes it worse. He's not vicious, just stupid. I just wish Ron would talk over him more.

cooby classic Oct 13 2015 10:03 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Best thread title ever

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 13 2015 10:09 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Centerfield is my new hero.

Mets Willets Point Oct 13 2015 10:17 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Ceetar Oct 13 2015 10:23 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

he's so so bad. How are the Cubs/Cardinals announcers (haven't focused much there)? I love Ron but perhaps we can get them for the NLDS (I have three chickens once they're all hatched, if you're wondering)

TransMonk Oct 13 2015 10:46 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

The Cubs/Cards have Brian Anderson on PBP (regular Brewers announcer), Dennis Eckersly and Joe Simpson (current and former Braves color man). Other than Anderson over Ernie Johnson, hardly better. Though, they're all better than Pierzynski who is doing the Astro games. I can't stand that guy. I did appreciate Ronnie joining the SNY crew for the post-game last night.

Gwreck Oct 13 2015 12:14 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

The Johnson/Darling/Ripken announcing team will do the NLCS for TBS.

Mets Willets Point Oct 13 2015 12:16 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I saw somewhere the suggestion that mid-broadcast, Gary and Keith should storm the booth WWE-style, hit Ripken and Johnson with chairs, and take over.

TransMonk Oct 13 2015 12:18 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Mets – Willets Point wrote: I saw somewhere the suggestion that mid-broadcast, Gary and Keith should storm the booth WWE-style, hit Ripken and Johnson with chairs, and take over. I think that was Fman in our IGT. I agree wholeheartedly.

Mets Willets Point Oct 13 2015 12:20 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

TransMonk wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: I saw somewhere the suggestion that mid-broadcast, Gary and Keith should storm the booth WWE-style, hit Ripken and Johnson with chairs, and take over. I think that was Fman in our IGT. I agree wholeheartedly. Excellent idea, Fman. Sorry I forgot it was you.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 13 2015 12:21 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I cope with them by not listening too closely. Like a five-year-old child, I hear but don't listen.

Fman99 Oct 13 2015 12:23 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: I saw somewhere the suggestion that mid-broadcast, Gary and Keith should storm the booth WWE-style, hit Ripken and Johnson with chairs, and take over. I think that was Fman in our IGT. I agree wholeheartedly. Excellent idea, Fman. Sorry I forgot it was you. That's OK. I'd like to also hope for some credit for the general encouragement of certain people sticking their faces into the rectums of other certain peoples. Because, you know, it's got comedic value.

dinosaur jesus Oct 13 2015 12:23 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Does anyone know Keith's take on the Utley slide? He's a pretty old school guy himself, and I'm afraid he might call it "good hardnosed baseball" or some crap like that. My love for Keith doesn't depend on my agreeing with him on much of anything, but that would be pretty disappointing.

TransMonk Oct 13 2015 12:27 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Keith called it late (after reviewing the play a few times), but IIRC stopped just sort of calling it dirty on Saturday's SNY post game show. He agreed with the rest of the (biased?) SNY team that the umps should have called a double play.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 13 2015 12:28 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Maybe Ripken is intentionally saying stupid things because he wants the Washington manager job, and knows that stupidity is a key qualification.

dinosaur jesus Oct 13 2015 12:47 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

TransMonk wrote: Keith called it late (after reviewing the play a few times), but IIRC stopped just sort of calling it dirty on Saturday's SNY post game show. He agreed with the rest of the (biased?) SNY team that the umps should have called a double play. Cool. Seems reasonable to me. The Dodger fans at True Blue LA have magnanimously agreed that you can't really blame Tejada for getting his leg broken; he just got carried away in the heat of the moment. And they concede that they might have a little personal bias, as all fans do. But they're puzzled and offended that the crowd at Citi would boo Utley so vociferously. New Yorkers are crazy assholes; that's the only possible explanation. It's so tempting to troll those people, but I have to remind myself I don't play that way. I try to stick with trolling people I agree with.

Ceetar Oct 13 2015 12:50 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

if they don't understand I worry they don't understand sports/fandom at all. I still say we don't give Reed Johnson enough crap for breaking Johan Santana.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2015 12:51 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

dinosaur jesus wrote: I try to stick with trolling people I agree with. Love it.

Edgy MD Oct 13 2015 01:01 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

There's this historical notion of the Dodgers fan base filled with detached, there-to-be-seen, gone-by-the-seventh types. But there's a new breed that has led the Giants/Dodgers to be the bloodiest and deadliest of fan rivalries, capable of making the Yankees/Red Sox fans blush. It's unsurprising to see the Tejada's injury rationalized away. OE: Oh and this. Be careful out there. Walk away from trouble if you can.

Mets Willets Point Oct 13 2015 01:12 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Yeah, a Dodger player carries out a vicious assault on the field and his teammates and fanbase back him up, with a portion of the latter using even more violent words and imagery. Yet, all over the media there was handwringing over the fear that New Yorkers were going to hurt someone. I've never really gotten the whole "New York is dangerous" idea since my whole life I've pretty much seen examples of the opposite.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 13 2015 01:14 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

There's this historical notion of the Dodgers fan base filled with detached, there-to-be-seen, gone-by-the-seventh types. But there's a new breed that has led the Giants/Dodgers to be the bloodiest and deadliest of fan rivalries, capable of making the Yankees/Red Sox fans blush. It's unsurprising to see the Tejada's injury rationalized away. OE: Oh and this. Be careful out there. Walk away from trouble if you can. The apples don't fall far from the tree? Birds of a feather flock together? All cut from the same cloth? I am out of metaphors.

dinosaur jesus Oct 13 2015 01:18 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

There's this historical notion of the Dodgers fan base filled with detached, there-to-be-seen, gone-by-the-seventh types. But there's a new breed that has led the Giants/Dodgers to be the bloodiest and deadliest of fan rivalries, capable of making the Yankees/Red Sox fans blush. It's unsurprising to see the Tejada's injury rationalized away. OE: Oh and this. Be careful out there. Walk away from trouble if you can. I don't think the rationalizers are the same guys you need to look out for in the parking lot. Nothing rational about that bunch. The discussion I'm talking about was in response to someone who went to last night's game and didn't like the vile things some people were shouting at the Dodgers. Racist and just nasty stuff. Which I don't doubt and obviously can't defend, but, you know, look at your own house.

Ashie62 Oct 13 2015 01:28 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I hope Ripken gets the Gnats job. I would consider that a competitive advantage for us. Speaking of assholes, CF, would you let Cal do a "Rusty Trombone" on your ass?

d'Kong76 Oct 13 2015 01:33 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I'm not even googlin' a rusty trombone...

Zvon Oct 13 2015 02:46 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

IMO Cal doesn't bring anything to the table. He's way to blah. I would love to see him manage the Nats, or star in a remake of The Amazing Calossal Man.

dinosaur jesus Oct 13 2015 02:50 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

The Amazing Colossal Iron Man. Love it.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 13 2015 03:23 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

dinosaur jesus wrote: Keith called it late (after reviewing the play a few times), but IIRC stopped just sort of calling it dirty on Saturday's SNY post game show. He agreed with the rest of the (biased?) SNY team that the umps should have called a double play. Cool. Seems reasonable to me. Cool. Me and Keith see it the same way: illegal, but not dirty.

Vic Sage Oct 13 2015 05:12 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

he said it was a football tackle, a rolling block that was illegal and should've been a DP. I'm disappointed in Ronny for letting Cal spew stupid stuff without ever raising a counter argument. He doesn't have to say "Jane, you ignorant slut", but he could say "well, there's breaking up a double play, and then there is tackling a guy by throwing yourself into his legs from behind, without even attempting to touch the bag."

Fman99 Oct 13 2015 08:07 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Vic Sage wrote: he said it was a football tackle, a rolling block that was illegal and should've been a DP. I'm disappointed in Ronny for letting Cal spew stupid stuff without ever raising a counter argument. He doesn't have to say "Jane, you ignorant slut", but he could say "well, there's breaking up a double play, and then there is tackling a guy by throwing yourself into his legs from behind, without even attempting to touch the bag." I would like Ronnie to ask him how he feels about chowing down on warm CPF anal meat.

Elster88 Oct 13 2015 08:50 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Throwing the word warm in there is what makes you Fman. Beautiful and elegant

Fman99 Oct 13 2015 09:05 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Elster88 wrote: Throwing the word warm in there is what makes you Fman. Beautiful and elegant Aw shucks

seawolf17 Oct 14 2015 08:23 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I think Ernie Johnson is starting to get tired of Cal's crap. He "joked" last night about Cal and Ronnie switching seats.

Lefty Specialist Oct 14 2015 08:42 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Well, Ernie's pretty annoying all by himself. If I hear 'Iron Man' one more time, I'm going to get Robert Downey to beat him up.

Edgy MD Oct 14 2015 09:31 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

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Lefty Specialist Oct 14 2015 09:41 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Well, there's a 'breakthrough experience' for ya.

Edgy MD Oct 14 2015 09:43 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

WE ARE BASEBALL Baseball was, is and will be excellence on and off the field. Baseball was, is and will be teamwork. Baseball was, is and will be community. Baseball was, is and will be family. One big family. The Ripken Family. This will radiate through everything we do on the field. And I thought Phil Jackson got away with obscuritanism-as-guru philosophy bullshit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2015 01:54 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

RIPKEN BASEBALL: IT'S PRETTY SERIOUSLY RADIOACTIVE

batmagadanleadoff Oct 14 2015 02:14 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 14 2015 02:35 PM

[fimg=744:1u8o7ftb]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/ripken.jpg[/fimg:1u8o7ftb] You people don't think Utley's slide was a good solid baseball play? Then you're fucking nuts. Utley got away with it, because the illegal takeout slide is [crossout:1u8o7ftb]rarely[/crossout:1u8o7ftb] usually not ever called as interference. And Utley knew that, as did every baseball player. The Dodgers stole a game. Otherwise, this series would've been over days ago. The Mets would've swept. And today, they'd be resting and setting their pitching rotation for optimal use in the NLCS. Instead, they have to play an elimination game on the road against a rested Greinke and use deGrom, probably guaranteeing that deGrom won't get three NLCS starts should the Mets advance to the next round. It was a good solid baseball play. And, so far, the key play of this NLDS.

Ceetar Oct 14 2015 02:17 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

batmagadanleadoff wrote: It was a good solid baseball play. Sure, and if they pinch hit Eric Goeddel and he just went up there and shanked Clayton Kershaw, it would've been a good solid baseball play. Gets him out of the game. Eric is expendable. Mets might win the game against relievers.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 14 2015 02:21 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 14 2015 02:37 PM

Ceetar wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: It was a good solid baseball play. Sure, and if they pinch hit Eric Goeddel and he just went up there and shanked Clayton Kershaw, it would've been a good solid baseball play. Gets him out of the game. Eric is expendable. Mets might win the game against relievers. If by shanked, you mean, I dunno, Goeddel approaches the mound and knocks out Kershaw, that's moronic. That would be so beyond the pale of baseball, Kershaw would actually have grounds to sue Goeddel. [OE -- And the authorities might even arrest Goeddel and charge him with a crime. There'd be grounds.] That wouldn't be solid. It'd be obviously, unquestionably dirty, even if the Mets gained an edge. (But it'd be interesting to see).

d'Kong76 Oct 14 2015 02:32 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

That picture above is the wrong angle to use. Where's that picture with his arm photoshoped with a 2 1/2 foot extension.

Ceetar Oct 14 2015 02:32 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: It was a good solid baseball play. Sure, and if they pinch hit Eric Goeddel and he just went up there and shanked Clayton Kershaw, it would've been a good solid baseball play. Gets him out of the game. Eric is expendable. Mets might win the game against relievers. If by shanked, you mean, I dunno, Goeddel approaches the mound and knocks out Kershaw, that's moronic. That would be so beyond the pale of baseball, Kershaw would actually have grounds to sue Goeddel. That wouldn't be solid. It'd be obviously, unquestionably dirty, even if the Mets gained an edge. (But it'd be interesting to see). It's an exaggeration, but not much. but if you want to keep it along the 'pretend it's baseball' lines.. he could drag bunt down the first baseline and just barrel into Kershaw when he goes to field it.

metsmarathon Oct 14 2015 03:04 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

in the 90's, taking steroids was also a good solid baseball play.

d'Kong76 Oct 14 2015 04:52 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

And greenies and other assorted goodies before that! Solid.

Edgy MD Oct 14 2015 05:26 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Greeenies taste better than assholes. Trust me on this.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2015 06:47 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Tastier than you'd think, though? Fielder poop served in Escupidor ear.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 14 2015 11:59 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: It was a good solid baseball play. Sure, and if they pinch hit Eric Goeddel and he just went up there and shanked Clayton Kershaw, it would've been a good solid baseball play. Gets him out of the game. Eric is expendable. Mets might win the game against relievers. If by shanked, you mean, I dunno, Goeddel approaches the mound and knocks out Kershaw, that's moronic. That would be so beyond the pale of baseball, Kershaw would actually have grounds to sue Goeddel. That wouldn't be solid. It'd be obviously, unquestionably dirty, even if the Mets gained an edge. (But it'd be interesting to see). It's an exaggeration, but not much. but if you want to keep it along the 'pretend it's baseball' lines.. he could drag bunt down the first baseline and just barrel into Kershaw when he goes to field it. I'd need to know what the bunter's intent was before I could characterize your hypothetical. Intent is everything here. If the bunter's only intent was simply to try and get a hit or to bunt to advance a runner or runners, and the play simply unfolded the way you described it by happenstance, then the play wouldn't be dirty at all, and whether or not it was a solid baseball play would depend on the quality of its execution. OTOH, obviously, a batter who plans that bunt out ahead of time with the main purpose of positioning the opposing pitcher so that he's exposed to an injury that's supposed to look accidental or natural to the game would be executing a very dirty play. This is an easy one. I realize that gauging a player's intent isn't easy, and umps should never be in a position where their calls depend on how they perceive intent. It's not as reliable a method as we'd like it to be. An ump can't prove intent with a video review and an accused player, even one with bad intent will still always have plausible deniability because umps aren't mind readers. But umps still have to make those judgments all the time. It's unavoidable. They're always, for example, gauging a pitcher's intent when a pitch is too close for comfort, or decks the batter. But as I wrote in another post, I believe Utley when he said he didn't intend to injure Tejada. So to me, it was a solid play. Because under those playoff circumstances, I believe that almost every single player would've attempted to take out the second baseman. Tejada's injury is obviously unfortunate and, really, a terrible thing. But I'm not gonna factor Tejada's injury in deciding for myself whether or not the slide was dirty because Tejada's injury is a risk that's natural to the game he plays and Utley's intent shouldn't be based on Tejada's injury. It's not as if Utley pulled out a knife and stabbed Tejada in the eyeballs. It was a screwy play as everyone knows because the umps blew the interference call and Utley never touched the base but that's on the umps and the review system that's in place, not on Utley. The slide was clearly illegal. But not dirty. Utley likely played to the existing rules and the existing protocol and the way umps do things. Or don't do things. Interference isn't usually called, even when it ought to. So in my book, it was a solid play.

Ceetar Oct 15 2015 06:45 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

yeah, no. Utley didn't intend to injure Tejada in the same way a boxer doesn't intend to injure his opponent. But baseball isn't boxing, and it's not meant to be a full-contact sport. And by deviating from the baseline to intentionally hit a player, and sliding AFTER you're out, you're intending to hit him. Sure, Utley didn't mean for him to get hurt. Might as well have said "I hope you land on your feet!"

batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2015 08:02 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Ceetar wrote: yeah, no. Utley didn't intend to injure Tejada in the same way a boxer doesn't intend to injure his opponent. But baseball isn't boxing, and it's not meant to be a full-contact sport. Not entirely true. Plays at second base are inherently dangerous and frequently involve full contact, even when the runner's slide is legal. Especially when the runner's slide is legal. Plays at the plate where the runner tries to score on a catcher who already has the ball -- even more so. Those plays often result in full contact. The neighborhood play is an attempt to mitigate the risks of injuries from plays at second base and it's existence essentially confirms the danger of that play. Baseball isn't boxing, but its players are exposed to serious injury from the natural and expected play of the game, just the same. Ceetar wrote: And by deviating from the baseline to intentionally hit a player, and sliding AFTER you're out, you're intending to hit him. Sure, Utley didn't mean for him to get hurt. Might as well have said "I hope you land on your feet!" I dunno. It seems that you're saying that all illegal plays are dirty. We agree that Utley thought he was out before coming into contact with Tejada. That's why his slide was illegal. No one's saying the slide was legal. Except the Dodgers, their fans and Cal Ripken. Utley assumed he'd be out and was concerned solely with preventing the double play so that the lead runner could score and the inning could continue. It was a smart play because interference plays are enforced weakly and inconsistently and Utley knew that. That's a problem that baseball made, not the players. So long as the umps don't call that play, the players'll continue to make illegal take out slides, especially in the post-season. And it'll be easy to rationalize: "How could that slide be dirty if the umps hardly call it"? This'll all probably change soon enough because of the Utley slide, because of the injury Tejada sustained, because it happened in the playoffs, on National TV between a game involving the two largest markets, and because everyone knows that the final result was unjust even though the replay umps followed the rules precisely.

Edgy MD Oct 15 2015 08:30 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

The egregiousness with which an act is performed can subtly or obviously indicate intent, or depraved indifference. And umps have been in the position to judge in such cases forever.

Centerfield Oct 15 2015 08:41 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Depraved indifference being the key. I have no doubt that Chase Utley didn't go into that slide thinking "Break his leg". I think he went into that slide thinking "Take him out", with a depraved indifference over whether he broke his leg or not. Idiots who drive 100 MPH drunk out of their minds don't do it with an intent to kill people. They do it with a depraved indifference of the lives of others.

dinosaur jesus Oct 15 2015 08:45 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Going out of the baseline to take out the fielder does happen all the time, it's almost never called, and it's not generally considered a dirty play. That's all true, but everyone who keeps repeating that is missing the point. What makes this play dirty is that Ruben's back was turned. It was turned when Utley left his feet, and was still turned when Utley hit him. And the other defense of Utley, that Ruben was out of position (because of Murphy's poor feed and his own bad decision to try for the double play) is also beside the point. Utley could see that Ruben was defenseless, and he went after him anyway.

Ceetar Oct 15 2015 09:01 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

also, to Cal's stupid point that Tejada should've known he wouldn't be able to turn the DP (clearly up for debate) shouldn't Utley have known Tejada, with his back turned, couldn't have turned the DP and not make the extra move to take out Tejada risking both Tejada AND himself? Yes, i'm saying all illegal slides are dirty. Even if you slide well in advance with your feet at his feet, there's still an injury risk. Neighborhood play and Posey rules are attempts to legislate that stuff out of the game. It's still against the rules, and just because it's rarely called doesn't mean it's never called. A quick google finds calls being made, and wrong ones too. I found an instance where the umps called interference merely for a guy, who beat the throw to second (running on the pitch) gently bumped the fielder while trying to maintain possession of the bag. It didn't even hinder the fielder but the umps correctly called interference. And then, despite being unable to review (because he actually threw the ball so it WAS a neighborhood play) they changed the ruling on the field to a madeup rule of 'unintentional' interference and called the guy at second out and let the runner at first stay. (ruled a dead ball) So yeah, dirty slide. And we know Utley has seen that play called interference before, so it's not like he's unaware. willfully and deliberately interfering is dirty, whether it's a hard barrel role, a slide at the feet, or waving your arms or screaming "AAAHHHH" at a fielder.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2015 09:37 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

dinosaur jesus wrote: Going out of the baseline to take out the fielder does happen all the time, it's almost never called, and it's not generally considered a dirty play. That's all true, but everyone who keeps repeating that is missing the point. What makes this play dirty is that Ruben's back was turned. It was turned when Utley left his feet, and was still turned when Utley hit him. And the other defense of Utley, that Ruben was out of position (because of Murphy's poor feed and his own bad decision to try for the double play) is also beside the point. Utley could see that Ruben was defenseless, and he went after him anyway. I'm open-minded to all of this. Later tonight, maybe before the game, I'll take a good look at the slide in light of what you're explaining. I recorded that game, but when I went to check the result, I discovered that my recording ended in the 6th inning. So my recording didn't include the whole brouhaha and the post-game analysis. My remote control is very touch-sensitive and I figure I must've inadvertently pressed the stop record button while I was watching the game. That happens once or twice a year to me. But I still have the pre-game from the following game so I'll take another look.

d'Kong76 Oct 15 2015 10:01 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Here's the whole shebang... [youtube:2skkmm4n]iL2KsomXxbU[/youtube:2skkmm4n]

batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2015 10:25 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 15 2015 10:31 AM

d'Kong76 wrote: Here's the whole shebang... [youtube]iL2KsomXxbU[/youtube] Thanks. I just finishing watching the slide again a coupl'a times. In real time. And in stopping and pausing and stopping and pausing mode. It's inconclusive to me. Utley's dirtiness, that is. Utley had already begun his slide a tick before Tejada spun or pirouetted counter-clockwise. I'm not sure that Utley had time to anticipate that Tejada's would spin counter-clockwise. Had Tejada spun clockwise instead, he probably wouldn't have been exposed blindly and he'd also be positioned differently and thus might have escaped physical harm. I'm not convinced that Utley knew which way Tejada was gonna spin. I think that the conventional or typical play in that setup is for the infielder to spin clockwise until his front shoulder is in line with the first baseman for the throw to first. It was a bang bang play at high speed between athletes competing at their sport's highest level. Of course, I'm nor blaming Tejada for anything. I just think that his reverse spin might not have been anticipated.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2015 10:30 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Centerfield wrote: Depraved indifference being the key. I have no doubt that Chase Utley didn't go into that slide thinking "Break his leg". I think he went into that slide thinking "Take him out", with a depraved indifference over whether he broke his leg or not. Idiots who drive 100 MPH drunk out of their minds don't do it with an intent to kill people. They do it with a depraved indifference of the lives of others. I don't think that "depraved indifference" applies to professional baseball. Not that play, anyways.. And any such claim would be countered with an assumption of the risk defense. An infielder assumes the risk that a runner might take him out physically in a slide, even with a dirty slide. It's part of the game. Even illegal slides are part of the game. OTOH, a civilian driver or pedestrian doesn't assume the risk that another motorist is going to drive like an absolute maniac.

Centerfield Oct 15 2015 11:11 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I don't follow your logic. Perhaps I should clarify my position on this. Legal Slide vs. Illegal Slide This is in the rule books. You look at the runner's intent. My biggest complaint about the call was that there were many judgment calls that could have gone the Mets way (3 different judgments in one play) and all of them went the Dodgers' way (and each subsequent one was more egregious than the prior one). When you look at the replay, it is evident that Utley went for Tejada and not the base. By the books, though it is rarely called, this is interference. Therefore, it's illegal. Dirty vs. Clean There is no such rule here. Just a subjective assessment. In my opinion, it was a dirty slide. He not only aimed at Tejada, but came in high and did not slide before hitting him. I don't believe he meant to hurt him. I think he had not a care in the world whether he did or not. Illustrated below: Clean and Legal: Runner makes a good faith attempt to slide into second. He slides before hitting the base, but makes no effort to get out of the way of the play and makes contact with the fielder, thus disrupting the double play. Clean and Illegal: Runner aims at the fielder (and not the base), but knowing the fielder can get hurt, slides and hits ground first minimizing the risk of injury on the fielder. Dirty and Legal: Runner aims toward the base, but either comes in high, or spikes up, or otherwise tailors his slide to increase the risk of injury to the fielder. Dirty and Illegal (Utley Slide): Runner aims at the fielder with a complete disregard for the base. Runner slides late, slides high, and drives all of his force into the fielder, thereby increasing the risk of injury. I'm pissed at the umps for missing that it was illegal (then ruling that the neighborhood play was not in effect, then on top of that awarding Utley the base). I'm pissed at Utley for sliding dirty. And I'm pissed at Collins for not losing his mind over this while it was happening.

Edgy MD Oct 15 2015 11:38 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

dinosaur jesus wrote: Going out of the baseline to take out the fielder does happen all the time, it's almost never called, and it's not generally considered a dirty play. I disagree with this. To the extent that it isn't called, it's because it's not usually successful. When a player is demonstrably outside the baseline, and does successfully interfere with the completion of the double play, it's called. It's been called on David Wright. I agree with the rest. It's called dirty when it goes beyond that, when the spikes are high or the runner rolls over the fielder with his hips or torso. Takes him out hard when he's clearly in a vulnerable position. There are levels of egregiousness and flagrancy to this thing, as noted on the grid Centerfield outlines.

G-Fafif Oct 15 2015 12:06 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Content aside, this thread's title is my favorite in CPF history.

Ceetar Oct 15 2015 12:22 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

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Benjamin Grimm Oct 15 2015 12:32 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

G-Fafif wrote: Content aside, this thread's title is my favorite in CPF history. I wonder if we can get Cal Ripken to play along with a gag? Have him show up on CF's doorstep. Let's say the kids answer the door and say, "It's Baltimore Oriole legend and Hall of Famer Cal Ripken!" And Cal says, "Yes, kids, that's right! And I'm here to eat your daddy's asshole!"

Lefty Specialist Oct 15 2015 01:07 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Dunno, I'm guessing Cal wouldn't go along. Humorless bastard.

Edgy MD Oct 15 2015 01:18 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

>>> "The thing is, kids, Mr. Ripken is such a pro's pro, once he gets started doing it, you know he's gonna make a point of coming back and doing it 2,632 consecutive days." >>>>> "Well, heh, I don't know about that... ." >>> "Iron Man, my ass." >>>>> "Now wait a minute. I worked hard to... ." >>> "No, you misunderstand. I mean that literally. Iron Man. My ass. Get on it."

cooby classic Oct 15 2015 01:33 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

You know, if this were a whispering campaign, we'd soon be hearing that CFs ass is hard as iron

seawolf17 Oct 15 2015 02:23 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

This thread started out so strong, then went way off kilter, and now we're back on focus. Well done, team.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 15 2015 02:28 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Content aside, this thread's title is my favorite in CPF history. I wonder if we can get Cal Ripken to play along with a gag? Have him show up on CF's doorstep. Let's say the kids answer the door and say, "It's Baltimore Oriole legend and Hall of Famer Cal Ripken!" And Cal says, "Yes, kids, that's right! And I'm here to eat your daddy's asshole!" You know, this reminds me: Isn't this the way the Brady Bunch episode with Don Drysdale played out?

Elster88 Oct 15 2015 09:14 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

The IGT is locked. I blame Cal

Mets Willets Point Oct 15 2015 09:15 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Elster88 wrote: The IGT is locked. I blame Cal Just playing the game "the right way." (Seriously though, why the fuck is the IGT locked?)

cooby classic Oct 15 2015 10:08 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I hope this thread never dies Just seeing it makes me smile

cooby classic Oct 16 2015 07:09 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

bump for a grin

Centerfield Oct 21 2015 08:51 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Let's predict things that Cal Ripken will say tonight: "Being down 3-0, this game is a 'must-win' for the Cubs." "The Cubs have to get some runs on the board for them to have a chance. They will want to score early to get them feeling comfortable, but it is also important to score runs late. You don't want to score in the first few innings then go to sleep for the rest of the game."

MFS62 Oct 21 2015 08:59 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 21 2015 09:15 AM

"the orange on the Mets uniforms isn't as pretty as the orange on the Orioles uniforms". Later

soupcan Oct 21 2015 09:10 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

'3 and 2 with 2 out, let's see if the runners are going...'

Frayed Knot Oct 21 2015 10:47 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

The problem with rookie (and sometimes not so rookie) announcers is that they think saying something is better than saying nothing. It's not. And that even applies to ones who were smart ballplayers taught at the knee of their baseball lifer father and have been in the game for more than a 1/2 century.

Fman99 Oct 21 2015 11:10 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

His words will all be muffled by the sounds of CF's smothercating angus.

dgwphotography Oct 21 2015 11:11 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Frayed Knot wrote: The problem with rookie (and sometimes not so rookie) announcers is that they think saying something is better than saying nothing. It's not. And that even applies to ones who were smart ballplayers taught at the knee of their baseball lifer father and have been in the game for more than a 1/2 century. I always get the feeling that Ripken feels the need to add something whenever Ron makes one of his astute points.

Frayed Knot Oct 21 2015 11:16 AM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

dgwphotography wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: The problem with rookie (and sometimes not so rookie) announcers is that they think saying something is better than saying nothing. It's not. And that even applies to ones who were smart ballplayers taught at the knee of their baseball lifer father and have been in the game for more than a 1/2 century. I always get the feeling that Ripken feels the need to add something whenever Ron makes one of his astute points. It's why three-man booths (IMO) rarely work, the two color guys get in competition with each other for most air time, best zingers, etc. Ron & Keith pull it off but that kind of personal and professional familiarity isn't there with thrown-together network "teams", many of which contain guys who are often there more for their name than for their announcing resumes.

Centerfield Oct 21 2015 12:11 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

The other extreme is Joe Garagiola Jr., who, seemingly in awe of his legendary partner, would say nothing. So much so that when he actually spoke, you forgot that it was not a Vin Scully solo performance.

seawolf17 Oct 21 2015 12:25 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Frayed Knot wrote: It's why three-man booths (IMO) rarely work, the two color guys get in competition with each other for most air time, best zingers, etc. Ron & Keith pull it off but that kind of personal and professional familiarity isn't there with thrown-together network "teams", many of which contain guys who are often there more for their name than for their announcing resumes. I feel like our guys pull it off because they have a good chunk of history together AND you've got the hitter/pitcher dynamic where they're really not stepping on each other at all. Also because METS.

G-Fafif Oct 21 2015 03:46 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Still the best thread title ever.

Valadius Oct 21 2015 08:59 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what Ripken just said.

Rockin' Doc Oct 21 2015 09:41 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Valadius wrote: I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what Ripken just said. Don't feel bad, neither does Cal.

dinosaur jesus Oct 21 2015 10:31 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Bye, Cal. It's been fun.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2015 10:38 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Now he can go to CF's house to eat his asshole!

Centerfield Oct 30 2015 04:07 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

You know what we did wrong? We did not bump asshole eating Cal. I'll say it. I miss Cal.

cooby classic Oct 30 2015 04:27 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

lol. Welcome back, Cal

Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2015 08:22 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Benjamin Grimm wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Content aside, this thread's title is my favorite in CPF history. I wonder if we can get Cal Ripken to play along with a gag? Have him show up on CF's doorstep. Let's say the kids answer the door and say, "It's Baltimore Oriole legend and Hall of Famer Cal Ripken!" And Cal says, "Yes, kids, that's right! And I'm here to eat your daddy's asshole!" Has this happened yet? I've called on every connection I can think of.

cooby classic Oct 30 2015 08:59 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I think we need Ann B Davis's help

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2015 09:00 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Oh God. OH GOD. Maybe CAL was the good-luck charm?

Edgy MD Oct 30 2015 10:57 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

cooby wrote: I think we need Ann B Davis's help Nicely played.

Zvon Oct 31 2015 02:52 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

I do believe this belongs up here. HAPPY HALLOWEEN YOU ASS MUNCHING !

Edgy MD Dec 15 2015 11:06 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Bump.

cooby classic Dec 16 2015 01:07 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Because this thread title gives such holiday cheer!

Fman99 Dec 16 2015 10:06 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

cooby wrote: Because this thread title gives such holiday cheer! I'd suggest a strategically placed mistletoe, at the small of CF's back.

MFS62 Dec 16 2015 10:26 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Fman99 wrote: cooby wrote: Because this thread title gives such holiday cheer! I'd suggest a strategically placed mistletoe, at the small of CF's back. And now we know why this thread must not be allowed to fall into disuse. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 16 2015 10:55 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Fman99 wrote: cooby wrote: Because this thread title gives such holiday cheer! I'd suggest a strategically placed mistletoe, at the small of CF's back. With "O Holy Night" playing in the background, in front of the niche with a steaming log in it.

cooby classic Dec 17 2015 10:27 PM Re: Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

Oh man. Poor Mrs. CF