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Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Diamond Dad Oct 14 2015 12:51 PM

Off the current set of topics -- my boss tells the story of how as a kid (he's about my age) he remembers going to a Mets game at Shea when Pete Rose broke a record. It was not, obviously, the record for hits -- but what was it? Could it have been the NL record for career hits? Anybody have a guess that I could look up?

Lefty Specialist Oct 14 2015 12:55 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe.

Ceetar Oct 14 2015 12:59 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

in 1982 Pete Rose became the All-Time Plate Appearance leader with 14101 [url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN198209240.shtml with his third appearance on September 24th 1982 at Shea. He walked in the top of the 5th against Walt Terrell Wasn't NL hits. looks like he did that at home in Philly in '81.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 14 2015 01:07 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 14 2015 01:33 PM

Lefty Specialist wrote: In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe. This is probably the game referred to up above. Rose broke Tommy Holmes then NL hit streak record at Shea. A big deal was made of it, with all kinds of hoopla, fanfare and special announcements. Everything but trumpets and trained elephants. Holmes was there also. So was I. Rose's streak was attracting huge national attention by then. That week, Rose's streak made the cover of Sports Illustrated -- the cover photo shot during that Reds @ Mets series. [fimg=444]http://aarontallent.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sports-Illustrated-Cover-on-Pete-Rose-Streak.jpg[/fimg]

Edgy MD Oct 14 2015 01:12 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Got him a date with Betty Buckley. [youtube:r241dim5]28-Y4tc6nCo[/youtube:r241dim5]

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 14 2015 01:14 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

In 1978 he also became the first person have a bet on Juan Berenguer to win a ballgame.

Diamond Dad Oct 14 2015 01:30 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

many thanks, guys, for the (always) quick replies. I think the hitting streak is probably the right answer here (I'll let you know). THere were two longer streaks before the turn of the century, but Holmes' streak of 37 was the "modern" record at the time for NL.

Diamond Dad Oct 14 2015 03:04 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

My boss thinks it could have been Rose setting the record with 10 seasons of 200+ hits in september of 1977, but that can't be right -- the Mets did not play the Reds anytime in September of 1977. Sheesh -- I give him a perfectly good answer for him to remember -- and he still can't remember.

Edgy MD Oct 14 2015 04:25 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

I think it's high time your boss yielded the big chair to you.

Zvon Oct 14 2015 04:30 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Lefty Specialist wrote: In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe. This. I was at the game. Holmes happened to be there because he worked for the Mets front office at the time.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 14 2015 04:35 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Zvon wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe. This. I was at the game. Holmes happened to be there because he worked for the Mets front office at the time. Holmes published a soft cover book around that time -- it was more like a small pamphlet -- on the art of hitting, or some batting tips book -- or something in that neighborhood. Holmes was pictured on the cover in his Mets uniform instead of in his playing days.

Zvon Oct 14 2015 04:46 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Zvon wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe. This. I was at the game. Holmes happened to be there because he worked for the Mets front office at the time. Holmes published a soft cover book around that time -- it was more like a small pamphlet -- on the art of hitting, or some batting tips book -- or something in that neighborhood. Holmes was pictured on the cover in his Mets uniform instead of in his playing days. I would like to see that picture. That would be one for the collection. I was way up in general admission, not quite the nosebleeds, just one ring under em, top level, 3rd base side. I remember something about Rose pulling off a bunt. The crowd, including me, was on him for bunting to try and keep the streak alive. And IIRC, that's how he kept it going. A late inning bunt single. The memory is hazy though.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 14 2015 05:43 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Zvon wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe. This. I was at the game. Holmes happened to be there because he worked for the Mets front office at the time. Well, not exactly. As stated above, he didn't tie Wee Willie Keeler at Shea. (Keeler had the all-time National Leage record with 44 games.) At Shea he passed Tommy Holmes, who had the "modern" (meaning 20th Century) record of, I think, 37 games.

Zvon Oct 14 2015 06:05 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Zvon wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe. This. I was at the game. Holmes happened to be there because he worked for the Mets front office at the time. Well, not exactly. As stated above, he didn't tie Wee Willie Keeler at Shea. (Keeler had the all-time National Leage record with 44 games.) At Shea he passed Tommy Holmes, who had the "modern" (meaning 20th Century) record of, I think, 37 games. I think you're right. I was at game 37 of the streak. Yes, the game I was at resulted in a continuation of the streak, not at the end(or the 44th). This streak was something I was following very closely. Because of the Seaver fiasco I wasn't running up to Shea as much. I had moved to Jersey a few years before but always drove up from SJ for at least 5 to ten games. I only went up the once in 78, with three of my brothers, and it was that game. After this trip I didn't visit Shea again until 1981. I wanted to see some guy named Mookie play.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 14 2015 07:12 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Zvon wrote: Zvon wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: In 1978, Rose tied the NL-longest hit streak at 44 games at Shea, I believe. This. I was at the game. Holmes happened to be there because he worked for the Mets front office at the time. Holmes published a soft cover book around that time -- it was more like a small pamphlet -- on the art of hitting, or some batting tips book -- or something in that neighborhood. Holmes was pictured on the cover in his Mets uniform instead of in his playing days. I would like to see that picture. I found this picture on the web. This, if I remember, is the photo used for the cover of Holmes's book.

Zvon Oct 14 2015 07:32 PM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Awesome! Don't know if that's usable for colorization but it's just kool to see the pic. Thanks.

G-Fafif Oct 15 2015 11:04 AM Re: Pete Rose breaks record at Shea

Rose also hit three home runs one day at Shea as he was closing in on his 3,000th hit. The story of breaking the modern National League record here. On July 25, 1978, Shea Stadium’s diehards forgot who they hated more than any single visiting player and gave him a standing ovation nobody could have possibly envisioned five Octobers earlier. Pete Rose was Public Enemy No. 1 in Flushing dating back to the day he slid a little too hard into Buddy Harrelson in the 1973 NLCS. A steady stream of flying debris greeted him when he took his position in left field after that brawl for the ages concluded. The venom might have faded over time, but the thought that Rose would someday be vociferously cheered at Shea was absurd. Then came the 1978 hitting streak that captured much of America’s attention. Charlie Hustle topped thirty games and kept going. Joe DiMaggio’s standard of 56 was off in the distance, but the modern National League record was clearly in sight, and it lay straight ahead at Shea Stadium. Rose came to New York having hit in 36 games in a row; the mark at which he was aiming (for the time being) was 37, set by Boston Brave Tommy Holmes in 1945. And wouldn’t you know that Tommy Holmes, generations later, was an employee of the Mets, working in their community relations department? Thus, Holmes was on hand the Monday night Rose tied him at 37 (as Mets fans stood and applauded their archvillain for three minutes). The old Brave outfielder and native of Brooklyn was there on Tuesday night, too, as Pete attempted to oust Tommy from the record book. Which he did, in the third inning of a scoreless game against Craig Swan. Rose, improbably, was feted lavishly by a crowd comprised of many of the same folks who no doubt called for his head in the not altogether distant past. But 1973’s evildoer knew how to win over a hostile throng. Sweetly, Rose shared his big moment with Holmes. Both men stood at first base and basked in the appreciation of 38,000-plus history-minded New Yorkers who normally would have no use for any Red not named Tom Seaver. When the impromptu ceremony ended, Rose went back to collecting base hits. He got two more off of Swan, but that was OK, because his teammates registered only four hits among them, while the Mets did their best to overshadow their unusually celebrated visitor by pounding out a dozen safeties. That provided plenty of support for Swannie, who got over his incidental place in history and went nine to beat Cincinnati, 9-2.