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Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Frayed Knot Oct 20 2015 04:35 PM

Barry Zito announced yesterday that he is joining his one-time running mate Tim Hudson into retirement (Mark Mulder beat them to it years ago although flirted with a comeback earlier this year). That Zito had pitched in only three games since 2013 (and in very few good ones since about '08) probably made some think that he already had retired, but no. Claims now that he's going to put his energies into music. Also previously announced (although still possible to rescind I guess) are AJ Burnett & Aramis Ramirez - both of whose seasons ended via the WC play-in loss to the Cubs. Those are four very substantial careers that will disappear from the baseball landscape this winter. Zito Hudson Burnett Ramirez

Edgy MD Oct 20 2015 04:41 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Pretty cool that the Giants and A's manipulated it during the last week of the season so that Zito and Mulder could lock up against each other as a sendoff. Pretty telling that it ended up in a 14-10 game.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 20 2015 04:43 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I wonder what the o/u was for that game.... 23.5?

seawolf17 Oct 20 2015 04:50 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Great careers all. But the 2022 Hall of Fame class continues to grow by zero, however.

themetfairy Oct 20 2015 04:55 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Edgy MD wrote: Pretty cool that the Giants and A's manipulated it during the last week of the season so that Zito and Mulder could lock up against each other as a sendoff. Pretty telling that it ended up in a 14-10 game. Zito faced off against Hudson; Mulder was in the house announcing the game.

Edgy MD Oct 20 2015 05:12 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Very true. I was posting that from a meeting, if it makes my error less egregious.

Frayed Knot Oct 24 2015 01:38 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Dan Haren ends a 13 year career which saw him spend a full season or more in 8 different uniforms (guy probably just got tired of moving around). How many can you name? (answers below) 153-131 plus 2-0 in Post-Season 391 Games, 380 Starts 3 time all-Star Placed 5th (2009) & 7th (2011) in CY voting. In order: StL (2 seasons), OAK (3), ARZ (2+), LAA (2+), WAS (1), LAD (1), MIA (1), CHC (1) By innings pitched: OAK, ARZ, LAA, LAD, WAS, MIA, StL, CHC

Edgy MD Oct 27 2015 12:56 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Torii Hunter, successor to Kirby Puckett as Twins centerfielder and baseball's Ambassador of Fun, calls it a career after 19 seasons. Hopefully he has a better retirement than Kirby.

Edgy MD Nov 29 2015 01:48 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Minor league home run king and former Met Mike Hessman packs it in.

MFS62 Nov 29 2015 03:22 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Deja vu, all over again. Later

cooby classic Nov 30 2015 06:02 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Loved Torii Hunter

Frayed Knot Dec 01 2015 02:15 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Minor league home run king and former Met Mike Hessman packs it in. 1st career HR comes vs the NYM, Aug 26, 2003 off Mike Stanton as a PH in the 9th inning -- http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail. ... 05&tabno=D -- fortunately it was a game in which the Mets were up by 2 at the time and Stanton went on to preserve the save. He retired Vinny Castilla, Raffy Furcal & Gary Sheffield in that inning, just not Mike Hessman. And his final career HR came as a NYM, Aug 6, 2010. This one also came as a PH (not surprising) also in the 9th inning and also left his team one run short. In this case he connected off the Phils' J.C. Romero with 2-on/2-out and the Mets down by 4 (thanks to a 6-run Philly 8th) -- http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail. ... 27&tabno=D In between those two he hit 12 other ML HRs in 223 ABs across pieces of 5 ML seasons. On the final game of the 2010 season he was subbed in hit in the 9th slot and play 3rd following the 9th inning of a tie game in which the 83-loss Mets would lose 2-1 to the 93-loss Nats in the 14th (Ollie Perez walked in the winning run). Hessman wound up getting ABs in the 10th & 12th innings K-ing in both (the 2nd time w/the winning run on 2nd) and was on deck when Ruben Tejada flew out to end the game. It was the 109th and final ML game of his career. -- http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail. ... 80&tabno=D

MFS62 Dec 01 2015 03:14 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

It seems like only yesterday that Jeff Manto was going to have the record: http://www.baseball-reference.com/regis ... nto-001jef But I'm not sure if he ever held it for even a brief period of time. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 02 2015 03:36 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Frayed Knot wrote: On the final game of the 2010 season he was subbed in hit in the 9th slot and play 3rd following the 9th inning of a tie game in which the 83-loss Mets would lose 2-1 to the 93-loss Nats in the 14th (Ollie Perez walked in the winning run). Hessman wound up getting ABs in the 10th & 12th innings K-ing in both (the 2nd time w/the winning run on 2nd) and was on deck when Ruben Tejada flew out to end the game. It was the 109th and final ML game of his career. -- http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail. ... 80&tabno=D From the weather to the clutch-vacuum, there was so little about this game that DIDN'T suck. Hessman's 12th inning K sent us to the exits (since YoungerPooper was tiny, sleeping and cold). Thanks for that, I guess, buddy-- go with God.

Edgy MD Jan 28 2016 05:45 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Jae Seo sez, "See you in the Brogna thread."

Centerfield Jan 28 2016 02:39 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I thought Jae Seo would have a better career than he did. I thought he could pitch 10 years, be a Bobby Jones type of guy. I also kinda felt like Dillon Gee was a white Jae Seo.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 28 2016 02:54 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Centerfield wrote: I thought Jae Seo would have a better career than he did. I thought he could pitch 10 years, be a Bobby Jones type of guy. I also kinda felt like Dillon Gee was a white Jae Seo. IOW... a Bobby Jones? Actually, in evaluating Gee, I'd go White Jae Seo in theory, White Masato Yoshii in practice.

Frayed Knot Jan 28 2016 03:26 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Seo's problem was that he was a fastball/change-up pitcher who, after arm surgery, lost a bit off the fastball and therefore the difference in speed between the two pitches. Given that, I'm actually surprised he was still pitching up until now with at least periods of success. You also have to love statements like: "the right-hander said he wanted to open up more opportunities for younger players". Sure he does.

Frayed Knot Mar 04 2016 10:06 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Maicer Izturis announced his retirement today. So why does this matter to me? you might say ... maybe right after you utter Who? and/or, Who Cares!! Well because this leaves Bartolo Colon as officially the last Montreal Expo still active in MLB. Izturis, a full seven years younger than Big Bart, played part of one season for the Expos in 2004 before going on to eight years with the Angels and the last two in Toronto. He again went to camp with the B-Jays this spring hoping to bounce back from recent injuries before announcing today that he's packing it in for good. Izturis and Bartolo were never Expos teammates as Colon pitched in Quebec in back in 2002 in what was then already his 6th ML season. There are still a few who served time in the Montreal farm system: Brandon Phillips & Ian Desmond among them, but none who ever wore the rouge, blanc et bleu of les Expos in a ML game or were able to call Stade Olympique their home park.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 05 2016 12:10 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Well because this leaves Bartolo Colon as officially the last Montreal Expo still active in MLB. QUIZ: Who was the last active major leaguer to have appeared in a game at Jarry Park as a member of the Expos?

Edgy MD Mar 05 2016 04:42 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

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Edgy MD Mar 05 2016 04:44 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Well because this leaves Bartolo Colon as officially the last Montreal Expo still active in MLB. QUIZ: Who was the last active major leaguer to have appeared in a game at Jarry Park as a member of the Expos? Gotta be Andre Dawson. He was still bringing it 20 years later.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 05 2016 05:28 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Well because this leaves Bartolo Colon as officially the last Montreal Expo still active in MLB. QUIZ: Who was the last active major leaguer to have appeared in a game at Jarry Park as a member of the Expos? Gotta be Andre Dawson. He was still bringing it 20 years later. It's Andre, who barely made the cut. Dawson debuted in mid-September, 1976, Jarry Park's last season as the home of the Expos. Dawson outlasted the runner-up, Gary Carter, by about four years.

Edgy MD Mar 07 2016 06:53 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

With regard to the ultimate Expo, I have this strange and totally insupportable suspicion that Milton Bradley, after getting out of jail, is planning on pulling a Julio Franco and making a comeback in his 40s.

Frayed Knot Mar 15 2016 09:11 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Adam LaRoche says he's going to take another day or two to think about it, but he sounds like a guy who's already made up his mind to hang 'em up (or maybe to negotiate a portion of his final contract year a la Cuddyer). The now 36 y/o had himself a nice 12 year career [255 HRs, 340 2Bs; 798 OPS] but did for six teams (plus two separate stints w/the Braves) and had a lousy year in 2015 after signing as a FA with the ChiSox. Not bad for a 29th round draft pick (Braves in 2000) out of a community college in Kansas who wasn't even considered the best prospect in his family; brother Andy was thought of as the better bet but he pretty much failed miserably. Also famously the son of a ML'er, pitcher Dave. While playing for Washington he was known for always having his son around the team including in the clubhouse where the kid would pal around with Bryce Harper who was closer in age to the kid than he was to the father.

G-Fafif Mar 15 2016 09:50 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

If LaRoche had retired sooner, Mets would be working on their umpteenth consecutive division title. (Yeah, umpteenth.) The other day, Skip Schumaker hung 'em up. Very much a "seems like yesterday he was just coming up" player. Even more recently, was a defensive star in a losing cause in the suspended game completion that preceded Steven Matz's instantly legendary debut. He was 36. Still is, I suppose.

MFS62 Mar 16 2016 03:17 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

G-Fafif wrote: If LaRoche had retired sooner, Mets would be working on their umpteenth consecutive division title. (Yeah, umpteenth.) If necessary, I'll personally drive him to the airport and load his luggage on the plane. Later

Edgy MD Mar 16 2016 09:19 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Adam LaRoche ... was known for always having his son around the team including in the clubhouse where the kid would pal around with Bryce Harper who was closer in age to the kid than he was to the father. Shmoly shmap! Ken Rosenthal is reporting that LaRoche retired as a matter of principle when management told him to stop bringing his kid around so much. Just talked to ‪#‎White‬ Sox president Ken Williams. Here is what he told me about LaRoche: "There has been no policy change with regards to allowance of kids in the clubhouse, on the field, the back fields during spring training. This young man that we're talking about, Drake, everyone loves this young man. In no way do I want this to be about him. "I asked Adam, said, 'Listen, our focus, our interest, our desire this year is to make sure we give ourselves every opportunity to focus on a daily basis on getting better. All I'm asking you to do with regard to bringing your kid to the ballpark is dial it back.' "I don't think he should be here 100 percent of the time - and he has been here 100 percent, every day, in the clubhouse. I said that I don't even think he should be here 50 percent of the time. Figure it out, somewhere in between. "We all think his kid is a great young man. I just felt it should not be every day, that's all. You tell me, where in this country can you bring your child to work every day? "I respect the man and his decision. I can't disagree with what (Blaine Boyer) said about Adam as a person. But I take exception to the 'evil' part." Boyer said of LaRoche earlier: "He is an unbelievable husband, an unbelievable father, a friend you can only dream of. "I honestly think this is between good and evil. I know which side Adam lives on. I'm thankful to see the way he's acting. It's an unbelievable test of who he is, the husband he is, the father he is." How mortifying. And way to keep a family matter private, Ken Williams. This could get stinkier before it gets better.

Ceetar Mar 16 2016 09:24 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

LaRoche wrote: “We’re not big on school. I told my wife, ‘He’s going to learn a lot more useful information in the clubhouse than he will in the classroom, as far as life lessons.' " Yeah, maybe a teenager shouldn't be spending all of his time in a major league clubhouse and should actually attend school. And on top of that, I can only imagine what the clubhouse would look like if EVERYONE started bringing their kids in every day. "Why does Adam's kid get a whole locker and get to shag fly balls and mine doesn't?"

Ashie62 Mar 16 2016 09:28 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

LaRoche's kid has his own locker next to Adam. That has to be annoying to many with the kid there 100% Pass

MFS62 Mar 17 2016 03:30 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

How old is the kid? I didn't see it in the posts above. Early Wynn's son used to not only get into the clubhouse, but on the field, too. He took batting practice against his dad. And I remember reading about how Ken Griffey Jr. used to spend a lot of time with his dad while pop was at the ballpark. Unless the kid is a real pain in the butt (and the story says he's a good kid), what's the problem? If the kid is old enough to know when to stay out of everyone's business/ game preparation, why the ban? Later

seawolf17 Mar 17 2016 03:46 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Kid's 13 or 14, IIRC. Either way, the White Sox are right that he shouldn't be in the clubhouse all the time, and if LaRoche doesn't like that rule, then he's perfectly within his rights to look elsewhere for employment. I wish him the best.

Edgy MD Mar 17 2016 04:31 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Yeah, they're both within their rights. I just think it's kinda stinky for either side to talk openly about it. How'd you like to go from the kid with the big league dad to the kid whose dad had to eat $13 million and the last year of his big league career in order to protect?

Lefty Specialist Mar 17 2016 12:59 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I don't think a young kid should be around a major league clubhouse all the time. He did this with the Nats too, so the kid was probably 10 or 11 then. That's too young to be around a bunch of grown men all the time. Kid should be in school learning math and history rather than how to chew tobacco with Bryce Harper.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 17 2016 01:22 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

We’re not big on school. This is exactly why he shouldn't be in the clubhouse. Keeping kids out of school is just a way of cultivating future Trump voters.

Ceetar Mar 17 2016 01:41 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

shoutout to Kansas' education system too, for this being in any way okay.

Centerfield Mar 17 2016 01:46 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

seawolf17 wrote: Kid's 13 or 14, IIRC. Either way, the White Sox are right that he shouldn't be in the clubhouse all the time, and if LaRoche doesn't like that rule, then he's perfectly within his rights to look elsewhere for employment. I wish him the best. Yup. And another thing, what 14 year old wants to hang out with his dad every day, no matter how cool the dad might be?

Edgy MD Mar 17 2016 02:23 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I don't know. He probably isn't hanging out with his dad all the time, but learning absolutely filthy sex stuff out in the bullpen, getting a couple hundred bucks to run to Chiplotle with the clubbies, learning Spanish slurs, choking guys with Jonathan Papelbon, taking a little BP, signing a few autographs, practicing his mack on middle school-aged baseball groupies, cutting class, stealing cigarettes and beer, and having the time of his life.

Edgy MD Mar 17 2016 07:30 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

This could get stinkier before it gets better. Reports surfacing that the team openly discussed staging a walkout in support of father and son, and that during the discussion, Chris Sale directly told Williams to get out of the clubhouse. Got to find a way to get more at-bats for Ken Rosenthal. He's on fire. [fimg=300]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/545915462609932288/X_vDhHiE.png[/fimg] OE: Also follow Jeff Passan, who says Sale "lit up" Williams.

Frayed Knot Mar 17 2016 08:52 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I also read (somewheres) that what kicked this all off was complaints from a few players about having the kid around all the time - so whatever the teammates think about this it's apparently not unanimous.

Edgy MD Mar 17 2016 08:58 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Perhaps, but now any player who comes out and says he was unhappy is going to look like a DEEK. And even if he says it off the record, I imagine the players have a good idea who has been talking to whom. It started out as penny-ante poker, but now THE STAKES HAVE BEEN RAISED INCREDIBLY HIGH!

Benjamin Grimm Mar 17 2016 09:14 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

If this was happening in New York the angst would be through the roof. I guess the angst may be high in Chicago but we (or I) just aren't aware of it.

Ceetar Mar 17 2016 09:16 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Eh, they'll be mildly pissed at the owner but I don't think he cares (and that's probably part of the point) and they'll all get back to playing baseball and mostly forget about it. Except maybe the guys that had Drake running errands for them and cleaning spikes. Now they might have to do that themselves.

TransMonk Mar 17 2016 09:20 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Prolly not the mess that Robin Ventura was hoping to open the season with.

Frayed Knot Mar 17 2016 09:51 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

One also wonders if the team would have brought this up at all had LaRoche not crashed to .207/.293 last season with a whopping 12 HRs after being signed to a substantial contract off of career averages of .264/.340 w/27 over a full season.

Edgy MD Mar 18 2016 05:50 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Chris Sale, who has some sort of cross between the juice of David Wright and the can-do-no-wrong affection of Jacob deGrom, is opening up both barrels. (Sorry about the Deadspin link but it collect links from more authoritative sources.) MLBPA is getting involved.

d'Kong76 Mar 18 2016 06:04 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I wonder if having a clause in a player contract that your offspring can hang out in the clubhouse is a common thing. I dunno, the whole every-day thing and we're-not-big-schools thing kinda makes me scratch my head. Go do your algebra, young man.

Ceetar Mar 18 2016 06:22 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I doubt there was a written clause in the contract, but maybe. Did it stipulate he gets his own locker and jersey? That he should clean spikes and help out and get to shag flies? And what point does this run afoul of child labor laws?

d'Kong76 Mar 18 2016 06:25 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

The blurbs on Deadspin say there is a clause and that's why the MLBPA may be getting involved. Slow news day, Trump hasn't said anything stupid for hours.

Edgy MD Mar 18 2016 06:27 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Ceetar wrote: I doubt there was a written clause in the contract, but maybe. Well, player rep Adam Eaton reportedly says otherwise. Ceetar wrote: Did it stipulate he gets his own locker and jersey? That he should clean spikes and help out and get to shag flies? And what point does this run afoul of child labor laws? I'm pretty sure the first two aren't really the issue. As for the last one, I can imagine the Sox management feared that they were setting a bad example and were getting called out, or suspected they might be. Maybe the kid is homeschooled to the gills when he's not at the ballpark.

Ceetar Mar 18 2016 06:48 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Edgy MD wrote: I doubt there was a written clause in the contract, but maybe. Edgy MD wrote: Well, player rep Adam Eaton reportedly says otherwise. Did it stipulate he gets his own locker and jersey? That he should clean spikes and help out and get to shag flies? And what point does this run afoul of child labor laws? I'm pretty sure the first two aren't really the issue. As for the last one, I can imagine the Sox management feared that they were setting a bad example and were getting called out, or suspected they might be. Maybe the kid is homeschooled to the gills when he's not at the ballpark. I doubt player rep Adam Eaton has read LaRoche's contract. And if it was, couldn't LaRoche have just said "no, I have it in writing he can be here" and would they have even tried to stop making it a permanent thing if they had it contractually guaranteed? The kid is not homeschooled to the gills. Every quote is along the "not big on school" lines. Things like "And maybe some homework if there is time." "As long as he passes his tests when he's present." Kansas' education system isn't looking so good in this situation. I also wonder if Drake would've chosen "Hang out at the park a few times a week, but not be an unofficial member of the team" over "Never be in a major league clubhouse again unless you make it as a pro"

Edgy MD Mar 18 2016 07:19 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Ceetar wrote: I doubt player rep Adam Eaton has read LaRoche's contract. And if it was, couldn't LaRoche have just said "no, I have it in writing he can be here" and would they have even tried to stop making it a permanent thing if they had it contractually guaranteed? I know for certain that you and I have not read it. We're all speculating.

Ceetar Mar 18 2016 07:25 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Edgy MD wrote: Ceetar wrote: I doubt player rep Adam Eaton has read LaRoche's contract. And if it was, couldn't LaRoche have just said "no, I have it in writing he can be here" and would they have even tried to stop making it a permanent thing if they had it contractually guaranteed? I know for certain that you and I have not read it. We're all speculating. Adam now claims it escalated to the point where Williams told him he couldn't bring him at all. Which sounds like the escalation of a pissing match. "Adam, let's cut back on Drake's time in the clubhouse. (At least mostly reasonable arguments why it's not in the best interest of anyone)" "No, fuck you. You said I could bring him everyday. *more swear words*" "Oh yeah, well fuck you too, now you can't bring him at all." "I don't have to take this, I quit!" "We're better off without you! You suck!"

Ceetar Mar 18 2016 08:31 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I mean, this pretty much says it all. [url]https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/sorry-adam-laroche-baseball-locker-rooms-arent-daycare-centers

Ashie62 Mar 19 2016 12:04 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Got to love the Drake. Personally the kid would annoy the crap out of me there EVERY DAY.

Frayed Knot Mar 20 2016 12:43 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Longtime closer Rafael Soriano calls it quits after apparently not fitting in with Toronto's plans where he signed as a FA just a few weeks ago. The 36 y/o had a 14 year career with Seattle, Braves, Rays, Yanx, Nats, and then briefly with the Cubs last year. 40+ saves three times. Best season was 2010 for AL-East winning Tampa: 45 Saves, 1.73 ERA, 0.802 WHiP, ASG, 8th in CY, 12th in MVP

bmfc1 Mar 20 2016 05:08 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Ashie62 wrote: Got to love the Drake. Personally the kid would annoy the crap out of me there EVERY DAY. A White Sox blog says "Good Riddance!" http://www.southsidesox.com/2016/3/19/1 ... ox-players

Edgy MD Mar 20 2016 05:28 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Mean, angry fan presumes to speak for everybody, film at 11.

Frayed Knot Mar 23 2016 08:21 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

ARod announces that his retirement ... effective after his current contract runs out at the end of 2017. This couldn't possibly come as a surprise to anyone as there was little danger in him getting a new contract after this current one even if he was so inclined. The only "drama", I suppose, is that this curtails is the idea that he won't hang around to try for the HR record even if he should find himself close to it after two more seasons. He currently sits at 687, 27 behind Ruth, 70 in back of Aaron, and 76 behind Bonds, coming off a year where he hit 33. Not that this pronouncement would preclude him from changing his mind if he miraculously can keep up a similar pace in the seasons where he'll turn 41 & 42 and end 2017 within a short grasp of 763. But in these days of advanced statistics, 'counting records', even one so previously hallowed as the all-time HR mark, just don't mean as much as they used to and this one particularly wouldn't coming from him.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 23 2016 08:29 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I knew that Bonds had the all-time record, but I couldn't have told you that the number was 763. It doesn't even look familiar to me. It certainly doesn't have the magic that 714 and then 755 once had.

Edgy MD Mar 23 2016 08:31 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

I tend to think that, for some period of my childhood, "755" was "756." Did he have a homer lopped off somewhere along the line?

Ceetar Mar 23 2016 08:39 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I knew that Bonds had the all-time record, but I couldn't have told you that the number was 763. It doesn't even look familiar to me. It certainly doesn't have the magic that 714 and then 755 once had. give it thirty years. I mean, it has plenty of 'magic' for me. 762, 73.

Ceetar Mar 23 2016 08:41 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

also 232, walks. very impressive.

Frayed Knot Mar 23 2016 08:41 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Bonds record is 762. I was saying that ARod could have his sights on 763 and change his mind when his deal runs out. Aaron actually did lose a HR when he was called for stepping out of the box while sending one over the fence. But that was a call that was made at the time rather than one retroactively taken away from him so 755 was always his final total. So, yeah neither 755 or 762 had the 'magic' of 714 for a whole host of reasons.

seawolf17 Mar 24 2016 01:56 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

If ARod ends 2017 within a handful of home runs from the all-time lead, SOMEONE is going to pay him to set that record in their uniform.

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2016 02:17 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

seawolf17 wrote: If ARod ends 2017 within a handful of home runs from the all-time lead, SOMEONE is going to pay him to set that record in their uniform. That scenario would also mean that he maintains a 30-ish HRs/season pace over 2016-17 so, yeah, under those circumstances his pronouncement (which he's apparently already! getting fuzzy on) would be subject to change and someone will chase the hollow fame that comes with him. Maintaining that pace is an unlikely scenario as he turns 41 & 42 in the middle of the coming seasons, but so was his hitting 33 last year after sitting out more than a year with suspensions and injuries.

Ceetar Mar 24 2016 02:24 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

seawolf17 wrote: If ARod ends 2017 within a handful of home runs from the all-time lead, SOMEONE is going to pay him to set that record in their uniform. I mean, Barry Bonds hit 28 home runs and lead the league in OBP in 2007,claimed he'd sign for the minimum, and NO ONE would sign him.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 29 2016 07:45 PM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Philip Humber has retired.

MFS62 Apr 02 2016 02:43 AM Re: Retirements: Winter 2015-16

Not exactly a voluntary retirement, but this ex-Met won't be playing for the next 60 days. https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big- ... 14013.html Later