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MFS62
Oct 22 2015 08:23 AM

Actually, I'm not as happy this morning as I thought I might be. Now that the Mets are in the Word Series, the year doesn't seem complete. Its as though I expect them to win it all.

OMG! It must be the same feeling YLDBs feel - smug and complacent, not happy with just winning the pennant.
I'm turning into a MLDB!
Help!

So, how do YOU feel today?

Later

Ceetar
Oct 22 2015 08:25 AM
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Maybe you don't feel complete because you're used to seasons ending either in disaster or a whimper.

themetfairy
Oct 22 2015 08:25 AM
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Are you fucking nuts?

The Mets are in the fucking World Series! How the hell could you be anything but ecstatic?

HahnSolo
Oct 22 2015 08:28 AM
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Ecstatic here. My kid is a 12-year old Mets nut and he and I might never experience this together again. Maybe in 10 years but by then he might not want to watch with me (sniff).

I'm also extremely happy for Terry Collins. The look on his face, that combination of joy and shock, is just great.

soupcan
Oct 22 2015 08:32 AM
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MFS62
Oct 22 2015 08:32 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
Are you fucking nuts?


Yes. But that's beside the point. :)

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 08:46 AM
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Very tired and very happy.

The Mets don't have to win the World Series for this to have been a fantastic season and an extraordinarily fun month.

RealityChuck
Oct 22 2015 08:48 AM
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Very happy about it. It is so weird watching the Mets play in October, and having them so dominant.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 22 2015 08:50 AM
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I'm with Grimm. Like a grateful recovering alcoholic, I'm taking it all one day at a time, the early part of THIS day being spent running errands while wearing last night's bedclothes (Mookie jerz, blue-button original hat).

metirish
Oct 22 2015 08:54 AM
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Feeling like i got my whistle polished ......actually when I told Lorcan this morning he was so happy....."is that why you were shouting?"......:)

willpie
Oct 22 2015 08:54 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
Are you fucking nuts?

The Mets are in the fucking World Series! How the hell could you be anything but ecstatic?


Nailed it.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 08:55 AM
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Definitely.

I'm so sick of Mets fans who seem to want to be unhappy.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Oct 22 2015 08:57 AM
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I think that it was a sweep and a blow-out last game made it sort of an inevitable thing and not an explosion of emotion. I was jumping for joy when they clinched the division and then after beating the Dodgers, which was a much more tense series. Last night was exciting for sure -- but a different type of experience.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 09:00 AM
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Well, yes. The clincher against the Dodgers was much more heart-pounding.

Fman99
Oct 22 2015 09:01 AM
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I'm elated and exhausted.

MFS62
Oct 22 2015 09:03 AM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
I think that it was a sweep and a blow-out last game made it sort of an inevitable thing and not an explosion of emotion. I was jumping for joy when they clinched the division and then after beating the Dodgers, which was a much more tense series. Last night was exciting for sure -- but a different type of experience.

Maybe that's what I feel, but didn't put into the proper words.
Thanks,
Later

Ceetar
Oct 22 2015 09:05 AM
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damn exhausted. Teething is a bitch ;-)

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 09:16 AM
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Last night I dreamed that regular season scheduling rules applied in the postseason, and that the Mets and the Cubs had to play the final three games of this series even though it had already been decided.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 22 2015 09:29 AM
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Elated, but a little stunned they beat the Cubs so effortlessly. I mean, baseball at this level isn't supposed to be this easy. I was geared for a bruising fight that never materialized. My wife and I just stared at each other and said, "Holy shit, they're going to the World Series!"

The only letdown is that there's 5 days of no baseball. It's like the week after the Conference championships in the NFL, a strange kind of limbo where nothing's going on.

Edgy MD
Oct 22 2015 09:49 AM
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Baseball was that easy for a few weeks back in August. The main difference is that it's Murphy who's walking on the clouds now instead of Cespedes.

Yeah, the Cubs are a different level of competition, but they were tearing down the Nats back then and that isn't nothing. They may not be this good, but they may be something like this good, with a pitching staff that keeps them in the game almost every night.

Three devastating sluggers in the Jays' lineup, but Schwarber/Bryant/Rizzo is pretty alarming themselves and the Mets' pitchers held two of those three mostly in check.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 10:16 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:

The only letdown is that there's 5 days of no baseball.


I can use a few days off. Five days is probably a bit too much, but I don't really mind.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 22 2015 10:19 AM
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And it's not that there's no baseball. We can root for the Jays-Royals to go seven and burn up as much starting pitching as possible.

Ashie62
Oct 22 2015 10:42 AM
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I feel a quiet sense of deep satisfaction and awe.

I don't think the enormity of this has hit ne yet.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 10:59 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
And it's not that there's no baseball. We can root for the Jays-Royals to go seven and burn up as much starting pitching as possible.


I'm definitely rooting for that series to go seven games. I rarely watch games that don't involve the Mets, but I did tune in to a few Nationals games in September when they were threatening to narrow the Mets' lead. So I do watch games that affect the Mets.

I may want to get an idea of who the players on these teams are. For the Blue Jays, I know R.A. Dickey, of course, and I'm familiar with Tulowitski. I don't think I can name any other Blue Jays. (Poor Jose Reyes; stuck watching these games from a motel somewhere in Denver.) And as for the Royals, I don't think I can name a single player on that team. Do they still have Cookie Rojas and Freddie Patek?

cooby classic
Oct 22 2015 10:59 AM
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Feeling like i got my whistle polished ......actually when I told Lorcan this morning he was so happy....."is that why you were shouting?"......:)

I hope you used a different phrase with Lorcan :)

SteveJRogers
Oct 22 2015 11:02 AM
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There is a logical answer to this question:

Farmer Ted
Oct 22 2015 11:08 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 22 2015 11:10 AM

The 11-game winning streak in April was awesome, but too early. Way too early.

I took Daughter Ted to the Pirates game in Pittsburgh in May. It was a Saturday game, a 7 Line Army Affair, and we sat with 1,100 other Mets fans in the upper left deck. It was also MATT FREAKING HARVEY on the mound. As it ended up, this was the second game of a weekend sweep as part of a 3-10 stretch that also included a sweep to the (ahem) Cubs the week prior.
The Mets trotted out a shitty lineup that included Campbell, Ceciliani, Plawecki, and a sprinkling of Mayberry and Leathersich. Harvey, it appeared, hit an early-season wall. The Mets got walloped 8-2 and it was my first moment of “these guys fucking suck,” despite being four games over .500 at the time. I sensed the floor caving in.

So, from mid-May until today, the season included the double sweeps to the Pirates and the Cubs; a heartbreaking loss to the Padres in the rain; losing 5 of the final 6 regular-season games; and getting no-hit twice...and my general demeanor today you ask?

I'M FUCKING CRAZY HAPPY.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 22 2015 11:10 AM
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word.

dgwphotography
Oct 22 2015 11:17 AM
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I'm tired, happy, ecstatic, but with a touch of stunned disbelief...

Edgy MD
Oct 22 2015 11:51 AM
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For the Blue Jays, I know R.A. Dickey, of course, and I'm familiar with Tulowitski. I don't think I can name any other Blue Jays.

The Jays have something like the three most devastating right-handed hitters in the American League. You'll know enough about them soon enough, but they are:
[list][*]Josh Donaldson (3b): .297 / .371 / .568 // .939[/*:m]
[*]Jose Bautista (rf): .250 / .377 / .536 // .913[/*:m]
[*]Edwin Encarnacion(dh): .277 / .372 / .557 // .929[/*:m][/list:u]
Among the three of them, they somehow drove in 348 runs. And there's gonna be little of that omygawdwherearewegonnaplayourDH?! nonsense you get all the time around this time of year. Encarnacion will slot in nicely at first without taking a particularly good bat (Justin Smoak, late of the Mariners) out of the lineup.

It's enough to make Terry think about using Colon instead of Matz in Game Four.

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2015 11:55 AM
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I was feeling OK, but now it has come to my attention that there will be no baseball men on my television screen tonight.
Does anyone know which government agency I contact to complain about this situation? Will I have to go directly to Hillary?

d'Kong76
Oct 22 2015 12:08 PM
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Exhausticated... my wife's brother died this week and between that and
the baseball excitement I haven't slept enough. Not as excited as 1986 or
2000, but I'm less emotionally invested in baseball than I was in those
years. But I'm pretty still fucking excited!!!

(certainly not excited enough to pleasure Sandy though)

One thing that made me laugh and smile early this morning was the guy on
the local news who I'm pretty sure is a Yankme fan said there's a Mr. October
again in New York and his name is not Reggie Jackson!!

bmfc1
Oct 22 2015 12:15 PM
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Condolences to d'Kong76.

I feel so good that I started singing aloud to a song on the loudspeaker at a Subway.
And I'm tired. It will be good to get to bed a little earlier.

Edgy MD
Oct 22 2015 12:27 PM
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Assignment for Zvon: a photo of Daniel's back with "MURPHY" replaced by "OCTOBER."

Requiscat in pace, Kong-in-Law.

d'Kong76
Oct 22 2015 01:18 PM
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Thanks guys, from both of us.

seawolf17
Oct 22 2015 01:24 PM
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I'm exhausted, and looking forward to a few nights of real sleep.

Rotblatt
Oct 22 2015 02:35 PM
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Estatic.

Hi everyone! It's been a while, but I've been feeling like I had to check in and catch up.

MFS62
Oct 22 2015 02:41 PM
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Sorry to hear that, Kase.
Our thoughts are with the family.

Later

seawolf17
Oct 22 2015 03:13 PM
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Rotblatt wrote:
Estatic.

Hi everyone! It's been a while, but I've been feeling like I had to check in and catch up.

I love that this is bringing back all our old forum friends!

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 03:14 PM
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Hopefully they'll stick around!

Edgy MD
Oct 22 2015 03:22 PM
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Wow! Rottblatt!

G-Fafif
Oct 22 2015 03:51 PM
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I'm feeling a little tired. Might not be ready for another Mets game until Tuesday night. Anyone know if they'll have one then?

Mets Willets Point
Oct 22 2015 05:00 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Lefty Specialist wrote:
And it's not that there's no baseball. We can root for the Jays-Royals to go seven and burn up as much starting pitching as possible.


I'm definitely rooting for that series to go seven games. I rarely watch games that don't involve the Mets, but I did tune in to a few Nationals games in September when they were threatening to narrow the Mets' lead. So I do watch games that affect the Mets.

I may want to get an idea of who the players on these teams are. For the Blue Jays, I know R.A. Dickey, of course, and I'm familiar with Tulowitski. I don't think I can name any other Blue Jays. (Poor Jose Reyes; stuck watching these games from a motel somewhere in Denver.) And as for the Royals, I don't think I can name a single player on that team. Do they still have Cookie Rojas and Freddie Patek?


You don't think Reyes would go home to Old Brookville or the Dominican?

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 22 2015 05:13 PM
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No, I think he's sitting in a Motel 6 off of some Colorado interstate.

Rockin' Doc
Oct 22 2015 08:02 PM
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Quite pleased and happy, but tired. Looking for a few nights of relaxation before the start of the World Seriess.

themetfairy
Oct 22 2015 08:36 PM
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I love the fact that we have this period of time to just bask in the glow of winning the pennant.

d'Kong76
Oct 23 2015 05:51 AM
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Thanks, MFS.
I feel great this morning despite getting up at four. I'm gonna do
some glow basking today and tomorrow watching the AL game(s)
and their fight to see who plays THE NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPS!!

Lefty Specialist
Oct 23 2015 08:04 AM
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Wearing my NL champions hoodie to work today. Dress code be damned, I'm glow-basking.

Edgy MD
Oct 23 2015 10:35 AM
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Slept like a rock last night. The sleep of the just. The sleep of a champion.

cooby classic
Oct 23 2015 10:41 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Rotblatt wrote:
Estatic.

Hi everyone! It's been a while, but I've been feeling like I had to check in and catch up.

I love that this is bringing back all our old forum friends!



me too!

Centerfield
Oct 27 2015 01:15 PM
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Ten years from now, as this dynasty starts to wind down, we will look back and think it was cute that we used to get so nervous before a World Series game.

But right now I'm fucking nervous as all shit.

Zvon
Oct 27 2015 01:37 PM
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Had a problem unwinding last night, today I'm extremely excited.

bmfc1
Oct 27 2015 01:59 PM
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I keep looking at the clock. No rain delay, please!

themetfairy
Oct 27 2015 02:22 PM
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Antsy as all hell!

Lefty Specialist
Oct 27 2015 02:24 PM
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I'm not getting ANY work done today.

I haven't been this excited about a Mets game since 1986. They were in the World Series in 2000, but it was against THEM, and there was a certain feeling of dread about the whole thing. This is clean and fresh and shiny and dread-free. Even if they get swept it's not like I'm surrounded by jerkwad Royals fans. So I'm nervous and excited all at once.

Waiting 5 days has just ratcheted things up. I need them to play baseball.

Centerfield
Oct 27 2015 02:25 PM
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I really think part of this is not knowing anything about Kansas City and how they will react to the Mets pitching.

I'm hoping that those numbers we are seeing are a result of facing pansies in the AL Central. And that when they face real pitching they will show themselves to be the little bitches that they are.

dinosaur jesus
Oct 27 2015 02:27 PM
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I feel like crap. I just want all this to be over. Then I can either remember it happily the rest of my life or shut it away with all the other disappointments. All I remember from 2000, for instance, is Clemens and the bat, and Benitez refusing to throw strikes to lefthanded batters.

metsmarathon
Oct 27 2015 02:28 PM
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Hello, Little Person! How are you today? Is you mood quite terrific or only okay? Are you happy as a hippo? Or angry as a duck? Maybe sad as a chicken? (Can you sadly say “CLUCK CLUCK”?) Are you…grumpy as a moose? Or excited as a dog? Worried as a rabbit? Contented as a frog? Perhaps, like a pig, you are sweetly amused. Or perhaps, like a cow, you’re completely confused. You might feel that, somehow, you’ve lost all your fizz. Or you’re frazzled like a …um…frazzled thing. (I’m not sure what it is.) Well, I hope you are happy. But if you are not, you have friends who will help you. We all like you a lot. And a difficult mood is not here to stay. Everyone’s moods will change day to day. Unless you’re that duck. He’s always this way.


don't be that duck. lets go mets!

soupcan
Oct 27 2015 02:36 PM
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dinosaur jesus wrote:
I feel like crap. I just want all this to be over. Then I can either remember it happily the rest of my life or shut it away with all the other disappointments. All I remember from 2000, for instance, is Clemens and the bat, and Benitez refusing to throw strikes to lefthanded batters.


If this is really how you feel then why bother?

Be a fan!! Enjoy it all!! the tension! The drama!! THIS is what its all about! Bask in it!

dinosaur jesus
Oct 27 2015 02:39 PM
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soupcan wrote:
dinosaur jesus wrote:
I feel like crap. I just want all this to be over. Then I can either remember it happily the rest of my life or shut it away with all the other disappointments. All I remember from 2000, for instance, is Clemens and the bat, and Benitez refusing to throw strikes to lefthanded batters.


If this is really how you feel then why bother?

Be a fan!! Enjoy it all!! the tension! The drama!! THIS is what its all about! Bask in it!


Because the before and the after (hopefully) are where the fun is. The during is the hard part.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 27 2015 02:40 PM
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I've done a surprisingly good job of blocking this all out during the work day today.

But now as four o'clock approaches, the butterflies are starting to show up.

I have no idea what dinosaurjesus is talking about. He wants this to be all over? I'm absolutely savoring this and will definitely miss the excitement when it's over.

And I'll be looking forward to the 2016 season much much more than any season in many years.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 27 2015 02:54 PM
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Think about it. The almost-but not-quite year of 2001. That doubleheader loss that sent them on a downward spiral in 2002. The dumpster fire that was 2003. Realizing that Braden Looper was not a closer in 2004. Not quite good enough in 2005. The frozen Carlos Beltran in 2006. 7 ahead with 17 to play in 2007. Losing the last game at Shea, painfully, in 2008. The ever-evolving horror show of 2009-14.

Now we're nervous. But it's a fucking good nervous. This is the World Series, and the Mets are in it.

Frayed Knot
Oct 27 2015 05:23 PM
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How Do You Feel?


Like a complete unknown. Like a Rolling Stone



On a related note, I checked the out of town scoreboard earlier and apparently there are no other games today.
Seems kind of odd to be the only game on a Tuesday night. I'll have to look into why this is the case.

Zvon
Oct 27 2015 05:44 PM
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dinosaur jesus wrote:
dinosaur jesus wrote:
I feel like crap. I just want all this to be over. Then I can either remember it happily the rest of my life or shut it away with all the other disappointments. All I remember from 2000, for instance, is Clemens and the bat, and Benitez refusing to throw strikes to lefthanded batters.


If this is really how you feel then why bother?

Be a fan!! Enjoy it all!! the tension! The drama!! THIS is what its all about! Bask in it!


Because the before and the after (hopefully) are where the fun is. The during is the hard part.


Ya gotta live it D.J.
For good or for bad, ya gotta live it. If it gets ugly, we'll be here for you. We'll be here for each other.



But it won't. LETS GO METS!!!

Zvon
Oct 27 2015 06:12 PM
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LESS THAN AN HOUR!!!

Valadius
Oct 27 2015 06:53 PM
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I was coming home yesterday and it all just hit me. Made me tear up.

The day I was born, the Mets were the defending World Series champions. They haven't won a championship since. I just want the Mets to win the World Series for the first time in my lifetime. I don't want to wait anymore.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 27 2015 06:55 PM
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I want that for you too. Every Mets fan should see at least one Worlds Championship in their lifetime.

d'Kong76
Oct 28 2015 11:20 AM
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What is this sleep thing that keeps popping up in converstions?

El Segundo Escupidor
Oct 30 2015 12:00 PM
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I'm really starting to lose........Kevin Keegan-style!

[youtube:8j8klgcm]YXpUdBlRZe8[/youtube:8j8klgcm]

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 02 2015 08:09 AM
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https://youtu.be/Nfrk2UdEOcQ?t=74

Centerfield
Nov 02 2015 09:24 AM
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I feel terrible. I'm still pissed off from the last two games. It's one thing to lose games, it's another to lose games because of mistakes. I'm also sad. I loved the 2015 Mets. I hate that this is the last impression we will have of them.

I can't believe the mountain of work that has piled up the last month while I've been distracted by this team. Turns out "What is the least amount of work I can do to before I can go home and watch baseball?" is not the best philosophy to have. I've been putting off things. Real life is going to suck.

I'm feeling the hangover of this season in addition to being actually hung over.

Ceetar
Nov 02 2015 09:28 AM
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Like i've been run over by a truck, but physically not mentally. picked up a cold somewhere this weekend, and now running on 4.5ish staccato'd hours of sleep. bleh.


Mentally I could actually use a few weeks off from baseball now. This has been a full month of extremely important games and I haven't even had time to process it all yet.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2015 09:28 AM
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Tired. Disoriented.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Nov 02 2015 09:29 AM
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We had a press conference after an event this morning. (Not a formal one, but where everyone surrounds the G and throws questions at him. We call it a "scrum." My job is to keep it orderly and cut it off when appropriate.)

The G started it by saying, "OK, we all need to be really nice to Dave today. He had a rough night after the Mets lost the World Series."

My fandom is apparently known in the upper levels of state government.

d'Kong76
Nov 02 2015 09:30 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
Turns out "What is the least amount of work I can do to before I can go home and watch baseball?" is not the best philosophy to have. I've been putting off things. Real life is going to suck.

I've been doing this since the mid 80's!!

seawolf17
Nov 02 2015 09:31 AM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
We had a press conference after an event this morning. (Not a formal one, but where everyone surrounds the G and throws questions at him. We call it a "scrum." My job is to keep it orderly and cut it off when appropriate.)

The G started it by saying, "OK, we all need to be really nice to Dave today. He had a rough night after the Mets lost the World Series."

My fandom is apparently known in the upper levels of state government.

Everyone's consciously avoiding my office today too. Possibly because I'm threatening anyone who comes by with thunder sticks.

MFS62
Nov 02 2015 09:33 AM
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Bummed, but anxious to see what Sandy does in the off season.

Later

bmfc1
Nov 02 2015 09:39 AM
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Sad, because they lost after having the lead late in 3 games. Tired, you know why. Angry, at the Nationals fan who wrote to me that the "Mets choked" (I let him have it). Grateful, yeah but will be more so in a day or two.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 02 2015 09:40 AM
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Mets make LWFS feel: [frowny clown face, confused puppy]

Having to explain what happened to YoungerPooper this morning has helped me put a better emotional face on this thing.

Then again, having to say things like, "They played really well this year; it's really hard just to GET to the World Series" made me realize how much had to go just right just to get here, and blunts any tempering effect that next-year optimism might have.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 02 2015 05:52 PM
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Man, I really thought I was well beyond the sport inducing tears stage of sports fandom.

And tomorrow I have to suffer a special, one-of-a-kind indignity of having to go back to Citi Field. Quite frankly, I'd rather go to Kabul than returning to that place so soon.

Ashie62
Nov 02 2015 07:00 PM
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Serenity now. I am not losing it over a sporting event.

G-Fafif
Nov 02 2015 08:19 PM
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Gads, I miss baseball.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 02 2015 10:17 PM
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In the 80's there was a series of ads for Toohey's beer featuring different sports all with the catchphrase "How do you feel?"

The scenarios were mostly incredulous. This was the baseball version.

[youtube:3xe5wx1l]fHRN8PbdJ0Y[/youtube:3xe5wx1l]

The catcher was in fact, Steve Rixon, the back-up wicketkeeper for the Australian cricket team in the 80's (same role basically) and the pitcher is vaguely familiar but I can't place him.

MFS62
Nov 02 2015 10:26 PM
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How do I feel today?
One way to look at is that it is better to have loved and lost than never having loved at all.
The other way to look at that is that must have been said by a loser.
It still hurts.

Later

Lefty Specialist
Nov 03 2015 07:49 AM
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The people I work with tiptoed around me yesterday morning and when they did talk to me it was in the hushed tones of talking to someone whose close relative had died. They really didn't have to, but I appreciated the understanding. Even the Yankee fans were respectful for the day.

Given a little distance, I'm grateful for a hell of a year. The Mets played in the World Series. The entire country was talking about the Mets for the better part of a month. I mean, who wouldn't have signed up for that on April 1st?

They lost, but they lost to a clearly better team. The easy demolition of the Cubs kind of hid the flaws we all knew this team had. The Royals exposed every single one of those flaws and beat the Mets fair and square. There weren't bad calls or disputed plays that turned the tide, they just played better.

But from July 31st to November 1st, we were treated to some of the best baseball in Mets history. Won the division and two playoff series. Played on the national stage and weren't embarrassed. Had some pretty awesome moments, too.

So while it still hurts a bit, there's lots of good stuff to take away from this. But yeah, I wish there was a game tomorrow. And the day after that, and the day after that. The good thing is, I'm saying that a month later than I usually do.

seawolf17
Nov 03 2015 08:18 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
The people I work with tiptoed around me yesterday morning and when they did talk to me it was in the hushed tones of talking to someone whose close relative had died. They really didn't have to, but I appreciated the understanding. Even the Yankee fans were respectful for the day.

Given a little distance, I'm grateful for a hell of a year. The Mets played in the World Series. The entire country was talking about the Mets for the better part of a month. I mean, who wouldn't have signed up for that on April 1st?

They lost, but they lost to a clearly better team. The easy demolition of the Cubs kind of hid the flaws we all knew this team had. The Royals exposed every single one of those flaws and beat the Mets fair and square. There weren't bad calls or disputed plays that turned the tide, they just played better.

But from July 31st to November 1st, we were treated to some of the best baseball in Mets history. Won the division and two playoff series. Played on the national stage and weren't embarrassed. Had some pretty awesome moments, too.

So while it still hurts a bit, there's lots of good stuff to take away from this. But yeah, I wish there was a game tomorrow. And the day after that, and the day after that. The good thing is, I'm saying that a month later than I usually do.

All of this.

Plus, I feel a lot better now that Dusty Baker is in our division.

MFS62
Nov 03 2015 08:55 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

And Don Mattingly.

Later

Methead
Nov 03 2015 10:39 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Boy, was I ever in a dark place yesterday.

Today is much better.

soupcan
Nov 03 2015 12:10 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I don't go to those dark places anymore.

It's taken a while but I am able to enjoy the Mets-related highs without going to the depths of despair from the lows.

I really enjoyed the whole season with this team and had a blast during the postseason. Went to three games - one each against the Dodgers, Cubs and Royals - went 1-2 but had a great time at all 3.

Really pleased at the prospect of a good 3-5 year roll for the Mets.

themetfairy
Nov 03 2015 12:31 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I've been very calm about this. I'm thrilled that this team surpassed all expectations to win the N.L. pennant.

I'm slightly ticked about the nonsense over Thor's opening pitch Friday night - other than that I have no particular problem with the Royals.

I love this young team and I'm looking forward to seeing what these kids do now that they've had a taste of the big stage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 03 2015 12:32 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I dunno. I'm really disappointed in how poorly they played in this series. They were obviously a good enough team to get there, and I'm sad for myself and also, that they didn't show the world nearly what they were capable of.

I know it was a lot of freaky stuff but beyond a few great SP efforts and Granderson generally we played terribly in this series. Hit bad, fielded bad, executed bad.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 12:34 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Ashie62 wrote:
Serenity now. I am not losing it over a sporting event.

Perhaps if you were 1-5 attending WS games including two elimination games you'd have a different perspective.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 03 2015 12:38 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I'm guessing that Ashie's perspective comes with age, and if so, I can relate to that.

cooby classic
Nov 03 2015 12:50 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Yes I think we are all more mature. I remember after the 2000 Series I cried for three days until my husband finally told me to snap out of it.

cooby classic
Nov 03 2015 12:52 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Lol I kept playing Reba's 'I Guess the World Didn't Stop For My Broken Heart'

soupcan
Nov 03 2015 12:58 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

cooby wrote:
Yes I think we are all more mature. I remember after the 2000 Series I cried for three days until my husband finally told me to snap out of it.


Can't say that I cried, but I was much more upset in 2000. The winning team being who they were might've had something to do with that.

Lefty Specialist
Nov 03 2015 01:02 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

One other thing.

David Wright hit a home run in the World Series. That's the closest I came to crying the whole season.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 01:02 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2015 01:06 PM

cooby wrote:
Yes I think we are all more mature. I remember after the 2000 Series I cried for three days until my husband finally told me to snap out of it.

The only times I've cried as a result of a sporting event were
1982 World Cup Semi-Final
2000 World Series
2006 Champions League Final
And this.
EDIT: 2006 World Cup Final too
Maybe this should been better suited for the confession thread.

cooby classic
Nov 03 2015 01:04 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Indeed. For me was also because my favorite player made the 'error' that lost the game, Jay Payton.

Never thought it fair that a thrown ball hitting a runner should be an error but that's the rule

Frayed Knot
Nov 03 2015 01:04 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Frustrated, in that:

- these chances don't come along all that often so, when they do, you need to seize them or at least put up a good fight; we did pretty much the opposite in this one aside from some good starting pitcing. And the talk about how this season is the year we 'took back the city' and is just the beginning of a string of good seasons to come ... well I heard the same song back when some fans were spouting their 'it's all right' attitude after losing to StL in 2006.

- we've now lost 8 of the last 10 WS games we've played. And although there's obviously no correlation between the 2000 team and this one so any conclusions about 'lacking character' or other such silly notions connecting the two don't really apply, those 8 losses have included three extra-inning games, plus two one-run defeats and two two-run defeats. IOW, other than the Game 2 loss to KC, every game has been winnable. Toss out our semi-blowout in Game 3 and they've essentially had 8 close games and lost 7 of them, including several where they held late leads.

Edgy MD
Nov 03 2015 01:16 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I do think it's the beginning of a string of excellence. I've been using the term "golden era" or "golden age" and I've been using it at least since spring. I know I didn't suggest any such thing in 2006.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 03 2015 01:31 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

2006 featured a lot of experienced vets who began showing their age in ensuing years.
2015 featured a lot of hot young players. They could just be getting started (yay!) or they may have peaked early (boo!). Time will tell.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 03 2015 01:36 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Or they may continue to be a good (or very good) team for the next five years but miss the World Series each time.

There's no point in fretting about the possibilities. Let's just hope they field a good team each year, and if they make it into October, we root for them just like we did this year.

Nothing is guaranteed. We shouldn't expect anything to be guaranteed.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 03 2015 01:37 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

That would be kind of boring anyhow.

Ceetar
Nov 03 2015 01:39 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
2006 featured a lot of experienced vets who began showing their age in ensuing years.
2015 featured a lot of hot young players. They could just be getting started (yay!) or they may have peaked early (boo!). Time will tell.


I think a lot of that is hindsight. The 2006 Mets were pretty well positioned to at least be competitive for a few more years and it took some absurd things for it not to happen.

I do think this team is _better_ positioned, but hell, over a short 5 or 7 game series you could run into anything. Even if the Mets were to sign Tulowitski and Giancarlo Stanton it's still a safer bet that they DON'T make it as far as they did this year.

I'll enjoy 2016 for 2016 and hope and promise don't alter my feelings about 2015.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 03 2015 01:42 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Oh and if they made the postseason for five more consecutive years that would be awesome, failing to win the World Series notwithstanding. The Mets record for consecutive postseason appearances is two!

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 03 2015 01:46 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Exactly. My next goal is to have them win, for the first time, two consecutive division titles. I won't concern myself with getting to or winning the World Series until they clinch a playoff spot. First things first.

TransMonk
Nov 03 2015 01:50 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I feel lucky, proud and surprised.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 02:10 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

No worries, you'll be lucky, proud and surprised again in another 15 years.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 03 2015 02:12 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Sixteen. The intervals are getting longer:

1973 to 1986: 13 years.
1986 to 2000: 14 years.
2000 to 2015: 15 years.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 02:25 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

That's exactly why I think some fans haven't fully grasped the enormity of what transpired this week. Just go through the end of the Game 1 IGT, you read comments like: "that's ok we'll get them tomorrow" like its a freaking 3 game series in May.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 03 2015 02:26 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Yeah, but there's a big difference between saying "We'll win Game 2" after losing Game 1 and saying "We'll win the 2016 World Series" after losing the 2015 World Series.

Edgy MD
Nov 03 2015 02:31 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

We will get them tomorrow, though. Tomorrow being Opening Day 2016, a contest in which the defending champs are frankly doomed.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 02:35 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

My point is that people shouldn't judge the performance of the team based on their personal (selfish?)expectations. You judge them on how much they played to their potential. And most people will argue that in the WS, they came up well short.

TransMonk
Nov 03 2015 02:51 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I guess I would argue that my own personal (selfish or otherwise) expectation for this team back in March was 84 wins and missing out on the postseason.

Should they have won the World Series? I don't know, man...I'm still shocked they were playing. That's not to say I don't think they deserved to be there...but I don't necessarily feel cheated.

This team had weaknesses. The weaknesses were exposed.

seawolf17
Nov 03 2015 03:08 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

https://www.facebook.com/alan.c.schwart ... nref=story

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 03 2015 03:10 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.

Lefty Specialist
Nov 03 2015 03:20 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I picked them to be 82-80. So I was in 'gravy mode' from mid-September on.

I know it's hard to get to the World Series but this year was a genie you can't stuff back into the bottle. The front office made moves that resulted in a National League championship. Next year, when moves need to be made, they won't be able to sit on their hands as they did from 2009-14. The eye level has been raised.

That said, Wilpons cheap, yada,yada,yada. They could tighten the purse strings, but the Madoff excuse no longer applies. You did it once, you can do it again.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 03:24 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.

This.

If they played like they did in the Cubs or Dodgers series and lost, it would have hurt a lot less. From the Cespedes failed circus trick in Game 1 to Muffy's error in Game 5, their performance was a dog's breakfast.

Edgy MD
Nov 03 2015 03:33 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Not this guy's:

[fimg=400:bpl3fojw]http://lesterslegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Curtis-Granderson.jpg[/fimg:bpl3fojw]

Ceetar
Nov 03 2015 03:34 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Lefty Specialist wrote:

That said, Wilpons cheap, yada,yada,yada. They could tighten the purse strings, but the Madoff excuse no longer applies. You did it once, you can do it again.


Well, the base revenue and expected 2016 returns is significantly higher now. I still don't expect them to exceed that though.

seawolf17
Nov 03 2015 03:35 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.

I agree, but that was also a weakness of this team. Our big guns -- Duda and Cespedes -- are streaky as hell, and were ice cold. Defensively, Wilmer and Murphy ain't exactly Ozzie Smith and Tom Herr If Tom Herr Was a Good Defensive Second Baseman I Don't Remember to begin with. Tyler Clippard didn't record an out after August.

Yes, they played like shit, but in a five-game stretch, sometimes that happens.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 03 2015 03:37 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Ceetar wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
2006 featured a lot of experienced vets who began showing their age in ensuing years.
2015 featured a lot of hot young players. They could just be getting started (yay!) or they may have peaked early (boo!). Time will tell.


I think a lot of that is hindsight.


Not really. I was critical of Minaya at the time for relying so heavily on "name" players to fill the gaps when I thought he might be better off finding less-known but more durable younger players who could offer the same production. Guys like LoDuca, El Duque, Valentin, Franco, Wagner, Alou, Green, and Oliver all contributed that year but it wasn't a team built for the long haul. In the ensuing years Minaya continued to sign older players who'd been successful elsewhere but wasn't as lucky having them click in Flushing.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 03 2015 03:38 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2015 03:42 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.

I agree, but that was also a weakness of this team. Our big guns -- Duda and Cespedes -- are streaky as hell, and were ice cold. Defensively, Wilmer and Murphy ain't exactly Ozzie Smith and Tom Herr If Tom Herr Was a Good Defensive Second Baseman I Don't Remember to begin with. Tyler Clippard didn't record an out after August.

Yes, they played like shit, but in a five-game stretch, sometimes that happens.


And I know people don't like to admit it, but the other team was pretty damned good and exploited the Mets' weaknesses. The best team in baseball doesn't always win, but in 2015, I think they did (c/w 2000 and 2006 where the Mets lost to clearly inferior teams).

Edgy MD
Nov 03 2015 03:42 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I agree.

Valentin was cool, though. And they got him on an NRI deal.

Most otherwise, though, they bought that team.

seawolf17
Nov 03 2015 03:43 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
And I know people don't like to admit it, but the other team was pretty damned good and exploited the Mets' weaknesses. The best team in baseball doesn't always win, but in 2015, I think they did (c/w 2000 and 2006 where the Mets lost to clearly inferior teams).

Very much agree. Our strengths were pitchers who strike guys out and batters who hit home runs. We didn't strike anyone out and our home runs didn't amount to enough.

TransMonk
Nov 03 2015 03:46 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

El Segundo Escupidor wrote:
Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.

This.

If they played like they did in the Cubs or Dodgers series and lost, it would have hurt a lot less. From the Cespedes failed circus trick in Game 1 to Muffy's error in Game 5, their performance was a dog's breakfast.

Again, I'll say the Mets had KNOWN weaknesses (i.e., average bullpen, average fielding, inability to hold on and throw out base runners). These weaknesses were a part of why they lost. The heads talked leading up to the series about how much better the Royals were in their bullpen and with their defense. They are what they are...it's not like they played stellar D all year and then lost it last week.

Edgy MD
Nov 03 2015 03:50 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I don't think the Mets bullpen was average. I think it was and is a strong bullpen. They had a 3.48 bullpen ERA (compared to a league average of 3.66) and a WHIP of 1.235 (league average = 1.298). And they were augmented in the end by two strong starters.

Average fielding? Well, I'd say that's probably as generous as the notion of an average bullpen is ungenerous. At least.

G-Fafif
Nov 03 2015 03:57 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I feel like Game Six tonight, deGrom refreshed and ready to make amends for Game Two, the offense prepared to quash Cueto. Let's tie this Series and send it to Game Seven!

What?

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 03 2015 04:00 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Yeah, a few weeks ago I was comparing the list of home-grown (meaning never played for any big league team other than the Mets) players from 2006 who were getting their first playoff experience to the those on the 2015 Mets. And the 2015 list is A LOT longer.

2006 had Wright and Reyes. And Maine and Heilman. And Feliciano. And maybe one or two others who I'm forgetting now.

But 2015? Harvey. DeGrom. Syndergaard. Matz. Familia. Duda. Murphy. Lagares. Conforto. Flores. Tejada. Robles. Niese. Nieuwenhuis. D'Arnaud. I think I felt a stronger connection to the 2015 team because of this.

(The lists in 1986 and 1969 were also longer than the list in 2006.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 03 2015 04:01 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

seawolf17 wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
And I know people don't like to admit it, but the other team was pretty damned good and exploited the Mets' weaknesses. The best team in baseball doesn't always win, but in 2015, I think they did (c/w 2000 and 2006 where the Mets lost to clearly inferior teams).

Very much agree. Our strengths were pitchers who strike guys out and batters who hit home runs. We didn't strike anyone out and our home runs didn't amount to enough.


Isn't that a big ugly failure then? I'm not diminishing anything, but we had supposed weaknesses and lost with them. The Royals had weaknesses (below-average scoring, terrible OBP) and won with them. In some cases (cough Clippard! cough) their weaknesses became strengths in this series. That sucks!

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 04:01 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

TransMonk wrote:
Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.

This.

If they played like they did in the Cubs or Dodgers series and lost, it would have hurt a lot less. From the Cespedes failed circus trick in Game 1 to Muffy's error in Game 5, their performance was a dog's breakfast.

Again, I'll say the Mets had KNOWN weaknesses (i.e., average bullpen, average fielding, inability to hold on and throw out base runners). These weaknesses were a part of why they lost. The heads talked leading up to the series about how much better the Royals were in their bullpen and with their defense. They are what they are...it's not like they played stellar D all year and then lost it last week.


I acknowledge the weaknesses -- but you don't beat 3 of the best pitchers in baseball and sweep a 97 game winner one day and then play like shit on cheesy biscuits the next. This is why for me most of the blame should fall on the manager, not the players.

A long time ago somebody told me "when you think you're doing well, double your efforts." In the Mets case, they halved their efforts.

Ceetar
Nov 03 2015 04:06 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

to me the Mets biggest strength advantage was starting pitching, and the Royals stepped up in that department. The Royals made mistakes too, they just came at better times. They bunched their hits better. Mets home runs came before walks instead of after them.

Take the last game, plenty of people were all "3 hits doesn't get it done" forgetting that they'd had a few more baserunners than the Royals to that point.

It happens. They didn't play well but I think a lot of that gets compounded by some bad timing too. Their gambles worked out, ours didn't.

Royals are pretty good. Pirates and Blue Jays might've been better. It's really hard to say for sure, but yeah, it's not like they lost to some 87 win team that backed into the playoffs and had just enough to get to the WS and have their guys perform in that small 5 game sample.

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 03 2015 04:12 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Ceetar wrote:
to me the Mets biggest strength advantage was starting pitching, and the Royals stepped up in that department. The Royals made mistakes too, they just came at better times. They bunched their hits better. Mets home runs came before walks instead of after them.

Yep. Facing a team that doesn't whiff was always going to nullify the Mets greatest strength. I posted about this in the TOR-KC IST.

TransMonk
Nov 03 2015 04:16 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Edgy MD wrote:
I don't think the Mets bullpen was average. I think it was and is a strong bullpen. They had a 3.48 bullpen ERA (compared to a league average of 3.66) and a WHIP of 1.235 (league average = 1.298)

The bullpen ERA in Sep/Oct was 4.65 (24th in MLB) and a 1.32 WHIP (20th in MLB)...and that's with Familia's 2.19 ERA and 1.135WHIP over that stretch. Over the season they were above average, but it seems to me that they limped into the post.

Ceetar
Nov 03 2015 04:17 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

El Segundo Escupidor wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
to me the Mets biggest strength advantage was starting pitching, and the Royals stepped up in that department. The Royals made mistakes too, they just came at better times. They bunched their hits better. Mets home runs came before walks instead of after them.

Yep. Facing a team that doesn't whiff was always going to nullify the Mets greatest strength. I posted about this in the TOR-KC IST.


Actually evidence suggests it was fatigue that nullified the strength, the Royals just were best situated to take advantage of it. I meant that the Royals pitchers performed better than expected.

Centerfield
Nov 03 2015 05:35 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I don't know. I'm still so mad.

I guess it's ok.

I'm starting to realize being distracted at work didn't have anything to do with the World Series.

Edgy MD
Nov 03 2015 06:51 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I think Harvey deserves credit for adapting. Our starters pound the strike zone, and they were facing a lineup that makes good contact, but doesn't walk. The adaptation was to make them chase.

I think all the starters were adapting and would have continued, but they ran out of time. The offense and defense didn't buy them enough time.

I'm not particularly disappointed in the starting pitching. They kept us in every game. But, you know, we could have made that pivot before game one.

Frayed Knot
Nov 03 2015 07:32 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Do you feel like we do? -- Bob Mayo on keyboards, Bob Mayo

Centerfield
Nov 04 2015 09:04 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I'm much better today. Probably the first time since Saturday night I have not felt the need to curse every time my mind wanders.

The funny thing is, if the Mets had failed to make the playoffs, or been bounced early, I think I would be really looking forward to 2016 as the year we make our big move. But because they went to the World Series, I've been moping around thinking they blew their big chance, and they may never get back there again. This is foolish. And I'm starting to realize that now.

Everyone talked about how exceptional it is that KC lost one year and won it the next. And how the Mets should not expect that to happen for them. And although this exact scenario is strange, multiple World Series appearances are not. In fact, it's pretty common. In the past 10 years, there have been only 11 participants. And that's because seven of those teams (Giants, Cardinals, Red Sox, Royals, Rangers, Phillies, Tigers) have appeared at least twice (Giants and Cardinals have appeared 3x each). Only four teams (Rockies, Rays, Yankees and Mets) are one-time participants. The Rockies and Rays were flukish and were dismantled afterwards. The Yankees suck. And the Mets are just starting their run. So what this tells us, is that good teams tend to make the World Series, and chances are, they tend to get there more than once. And I would argue that none of those other 10 teams had the rotation the Mets have just built.

Of the last ten WS Champions, 3 of them (4 if you count the Cardinals twice) have also lost a World Series during this run.

Sure. It's tough when you think about 1986 and 2006. But there are key differences. In the 80's, only 2 teams made the playoffs. I read someplace that if there were four divisions and Wild Cards, the Mets would have made the playoffs every year from '85 to '90. That's 6 Octobers. You'd think they would find a way to get back there at least once (imagine '85 Gooden in the playoffs? Wow). And I tend to think the 2006 team had no pitching at all. Think about that team, not one starter would make the post-season roster in 2015. Glavine maybe beats out Niese for 5th starter during the year, but it's close.

So fuck the wound-licking. Fuck the talk of 16 years until our next one. Let's go on our run. We're going to win it all next year.

Centerfield
Nov 04 2015 09:04 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

(and if not, we'll win it the year after that.)

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 04 2015 10:44 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Edgy MD wrote:
I think Harvey deserves credit for adapting. Our starters pound the strike zone, and they were facing a lineup that makes good contact, but doesn't walk. The adaptation was to make them chase.

I think all the starters were adapting and would have continued, but they ran out of time. The offense and defense didn't buy them enough time.

This is actually an astute observation.

Edgy MD
Nov 04 2015 11:13 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

It happens sometimes. Weird, isn't it?

El Segundo Escupidor
Nov 06 2015 06:40 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Woke up one other day
The pain won't go away
I am growing
In peculiar ways
Into a light I pass
Another dream, another trance
This time, this time
This time I'm gonna rise into the light
In or out of time

Lefty Specialist
Nov 06 2015 07:02 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Vic Sage
Nov 06 2015 08:52 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

what CF said... ditto.

I should make that my avatar.

Rockin' Doc
Nov 06 2015 08:56 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
There's no point in fretting about the possibilities. Let's just hope they field a good team each year, and if they make it into October, we root for them just like we did this year.

Nothing is guaranteed. We shouldn't expect anything to be guaranteed.


Very true, because expecting an annual World Series appearance to be guaranteed would make us too much like Yankee fans. Assuredly, none of us want that.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 06 2015 09:00 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Centerfield wrote:
In the 80's, only 2 teams made the playoffs. I read someplace that if there were four divisions and Wild Cards, the Mets would have made the playoffs every year from '85 to '90. That's 6 Octobers. You'd think they would find a way to get back there at least once (imagine '85 Gooden in the playoffs? Wow).


'85 Doc in the playoffs is definitely a "wow" to think about. Plus Doc saved his best for the end of the regular season, just like Mike Scott did the following year. Any carry-over and Doc singlehandeldy might've carried those Mets.

But extra playoff teams in the 80's cuts both ways. If there were more teams qualifying, both the '86 crown and pennant are now at risk because the Mets woulda hadda win an extra series. And because all baseball playoff series are essentially coin flips, even if one of the teams won 108 regular season games ....

d'Kong76
Nov 06 2015 10:20 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I feel like it should be 12:20 still, this week can't end fast enough.

Centerfield
Nov 06 2015 04:02 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Vic Sage wrote:
what CF said... ditto.

I should make that my avatar.


I think to myself, well I can't be all that crazy. Vic agrees with me more often than not.

If ever you get carted away in a straightjacket, I'm going to do a lot of self-reflection.

Centerfield
Nov 20 2015 08:45 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

You know, maybe I'm not over it yet. Last night I found myself wondering how different the series might have been if we started at home instead of on the road. Then I found myself thinking about the All-Star game and getting pissed at Bruce Bochy and Clayton Kershaw. And Francisco Rodriguez giving up runs when he shouldn't have even been there. If Familia is in the game and deGrom goes 2, maybe the NL wins. And we are still nursing champagne hangovers. Fucking Bochy.

Next year, we get our Mets in that game. 2 innings a piece for deGrom, Harvey, Syndergaard and Matz. Familia closes. Win the All-Star game. Win the WS.

d'Kong76
Nov 20 2015 08:55 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I'm so glad I deleted the DVR's of the last two games. Fuck it, bring
on 2016. Funny, I got a Mets snail mail yesterday and actually opened
it and felt good doing so. Last year it would have went straight in the
trash with some unpleasant-under-my-breath mutterings.

Centerfield
Nov 20 2015 09:00 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Agreed. Fuck it.

Is it too early for new years resolutions? If the Mets make the World Series this year we are ALL fucking going.

d'Kong76
Nov 20 2015 09:08 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Yeah, in Jeff's suite! And I want a full spread, not just some chips
and dip. He fucking owes us!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 20 2015 09:18 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Centerfield wrote:
Agreed. Fuck it.

Is it too early for new years resolutions? If the Mets make the World Series this year we are ALL fucking going.


Yeah. Not moving heaven and earth to attend this year was the right move for us... but it still didn't FEEL great.

cooby classic
Nov 20 2015 01:44 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

d'Kong76 wrote:
Yeah, in Jeff's suite! And I want a full spread, not just some chips
and dip. He fucking owes us!!



Heck I'd settle for no food at all.

Unless of course, I'd noticed earlier that it was LUCKY food...

Farmer Ted
Nov 20 2015 02:20 PM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I feel something's in the works. I can't quite place it but it FEELS like one of those wholesale trade things in coming our way. You know, Duda, Lagares, Tejada, and Neise for half of the entire Oakland A's organization or some shit. I'm kinda nervous. That's how I feel.

d'Kong76
Dec 10 2015 08:21 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

I don't feel so great.

cooby classic
Dec 10 2015 08:24 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

What's the matter?

d'Kong76
Dec 10 2015 08:26 AM
Re: How Do You Feel?

Mets news and recent developments not particularly inspiring.