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I Still Believe

Edgy MD Oct 31 2015 10:44 PM

That is all. [youtube:373nd2x9]PzlNMBFEakg[/youtube:373nd2x9]

Benjamin Grimm Oct 31 2015 10:46 PM Re: I Still Believe

Not dead yet, that's for sure. Take one game at a time and hope to win all three of them. Harvey. deGrom. Syndergaard. They definitely have a chance.

Frayed Knot Oct 31 2015 10:48 PM Re: I Still Believe

Win next game. Rinse. Repeat.

Mets Willets Point Oct 31 2015 10:49 PM Re: I Still Believe

I believe the Royals are the better team, but, hey we're still watching the Mets in the World Series, something no one here thought possible. So I'm not going to join in the hater pile-on, and I'm going to root, root, root for my Mets until the last out of the last game.

Frayed Knot Oct 31 2015 10:51 PM Re: I Still Believe

They're the better team this week so far, but I don't think it's carved in stone that they're better overall.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 31 2015 10:51 PM Re: I Still Believe

Mets – Willets Point wrote: So I'm not going to join in the hater pile-on, and I'm going to root, root, root for my Mets until the last out of the last game. I'm pretty sure you're not alone in that, by a longshot.

Elster88 Oct 31 2015 10:52 PM Re: I Still Believe

Frayed Knot wrote: They're the better team this week so far, but I don't think it's carved in stone that they're better overall. Agreed. If our closer holds in game 1 we're tied 2-2 at worst.

d'Kong76 Oct 31 2015 10:53 PM Re: I Still Believe

I believe Cespedis will not kick another ball this series. That's all I got.

Mets Willets Point Oct 31 2015 10:53 PM Re: I Still Believe

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: So I'm not going to join in the hater pile-on, and I'm going to root, root, root for my Mets until the last out of the last game. I'm pretty sure you're not alone in that, by a longshot. Not alone, but a small group. Go look at the IGT. Steaming piles of hate flung around at various Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 31 2015 10:55 PM Re: I Still Believe

I think a lot of it (but not all of it) is from the frustration of the moment. But yes, I do know what you mean.

Elster88 Oct 31 2015 10:59 PM Re: I Still Believe

I still believe... And so does Lost Boys Sax Man [youtube:1il9y5w5]wmbt1RjPn4M[/youtube:1il9y5w5]

Mets Willets Point Oct 31 2015 11:00 PM Re: I Still Believe

Well, at least the run differential pattern coincidences with 1986 have come to an end so we won't have to think about game five being a two-run loss for the Mets. Maybe we got that tonight instead?

Edgy MD Oct 31 2015 11:01 PM Re: I Still Believe

Whoah, hey, lookie what I just drew.

TransMonk Oct 31 2015 11:01 PM Re: I Still Believe

Elster88 wrote: I still believe... And so does Lost Boys Sax Man [youtube]wmbt1RjPn4M[/youtube] LOL! That is exactly what I thought of when I read this thread title.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 31 2015 11:02 PM Re: I Still Believe

No hate here. Just a bit of bemusement about Terry's Matt Williamsing and usage of our starters-turned-relievers. I'm with Sax Man.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 31 2015 11:06 PM Re: I Still Believe

And I didn't turn against Clippard in the game thread: I've hated him for years now.

El Segundo Escupidor Oct 31 2015 11:13 PM Re: I Still Believe

Last team to win the WS from 3-1 down were the 85 Royals. Also won the last two on the road

HahnSolo Oct 31 2015 11:16 PM Re: I Still Believe

El Segundo Escupidor wrote: Last team to win the WS from 3-1 down were the 85 Royals. Also won the last two on the road They won game 7 at home. I believe for sure.

HahnSolo Oct 31 2015 11:16 PM Re: I Still Believe Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 31 2015 11:17 PM

El Segundo Escupidor wrote: Last team to win the WS from 3-1 down were the 85 Royals. Also won the last two on the road They won game 7 at home. And I believe.

Zvon Oct 31 2015 11:16 PM Re: I Still Believe

I just think what's the point in not believing?

Batty31 Oct 31 2015 11:27 PM Re: I Still Believe

LOL...I just met the "Sax Man" Tim Cappello last weekend. Maybe that's a good omen.

PiggiesTomatoes Oct 31 2015 11:32 PM Re: I Still Believe

This wouldn't be the first time we've won three in a row. One game at a time.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2015 11:35 PM Re: I Still Believe

PiggiesTomatoes wrote: This wouldn't be the first time we've won three in a row. One game at a time. Every time I look at your avatar, I think it's Roger Sterling in a Mets uniform. Rog'd be about 105 years old today.

seawolf17 Nov 01 2015 06:26 AM Re: I Still Believe

Edgy MD wrote: Whoah, hey, lookie what I just drew. Exactly. Let's do this. EXCEPT YOU TYLER YOU CAN STAY HOME TONIGHT

Rotblatt Nov 01 2015 06:32 AM Re: I Still Believe

I want to believe. Does that count?

cooby classic Nov 01 2015 06:34 AM Re: I Still Believe

Of course I believe!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 01 2015 06:39 AM Re: I Still Believe

The part of me that doesn't know math believes. Luckily, I can more or less put that guy to sleep if I start in with the bourbon just a LITTLE earlier. Either way, I'm looking forward to it, and to clapping hard at the men on my TV.

themetfairy Nov 01 2015 06:49 AM Re: I Still Believe

I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe.

dgwphotography Nov 01 2015 07:26 AM Re: I Still Believe

I still believe,but I'm just a bit cranky this morning

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 01 2015 07:32 AM Re: I Still Believe

Anything can happen. Like, your cleanup hitter could take up soccer. You never know.

El Segundo Escupidor Nov 01 2015 08:00 AM Re: I Still Believe

"When you're down 3-1 in the World Series, you have to remind yourself that the other team still needs to win another game." --Joe Morgan

d'Kong76 Nov 01 2015 08:03 AM Re: I Still Believe

Things I believe: [list]Conforto has some more boom in him Harvester will have a major statement game Cespedes has booted his last baseball as a Met Flores ain't crying tonight A twelve-pack isn't going to cut it today/tonight[/list:u]

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2015 08:24 AM Re: I Still Believe

I believe they have a chance. Being certain of eventual victory would require a level of self delusion that's beyond my capability.

MFS62 Nov 01 2015 09:27 AM Re: I Still Believe

OK, so I didn't clap for Tinker Bell. But of course I believe... in the Mets. Let's go kick some ass, guys. Kill KILL KILL. Later

cooby classic Nov 01 2015 09:29 AM Re: I Still Believe

Things I believe: [list]Conforto has some more boom in him Harvester will have a major statement game Cespedes has booted his last baseball as a Met Flores ain't crying tonight A twelve-pack isn't going to cut it today/tonight[/list:u] Speaking of which I CAN'T believe that Cespedes didn't get an error on that play

Ashie62 Nov 01 2015 09:45 AM Re: I Still Believe

I believe the Mets will win tonight.

Mets Willets Point Nov 01 2015 10:12 AM Re: I Still Believe

Ashie62 wrote: I believe the Mets will win tonight. Me too.

Gwreck Nov 01 2015 10:17 AM Re: I Still Believe

Same here.

Lefty Specialist Nov 01 2015 10:37 AM Re: I Still Believe

One at a time.

Rotblatt Nov 01 2015 11:43 AM Re: I Still Believe

I believe they have a chance. Being certain of eventual victory would require a level of self delusion that's beyond my capability. This. I've learned that I am a pessimist at heart when it comes to the Mets, but I always believe we've got a chance.

seawolf17 Nov 01 2015 12:34 PM Re: I Still Believe

You bet your ass I believe. Just give me tonight. We'll worry about Tuesday on Tuesday.

Edgy MD Nov 01 2015 12:53 PM Re: I Still Believe

You tell 'em, Bob Seger.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 01 2015 01:11 PM Re: I Still Believe

Perfect time for the Mets young guns to make their bones by shutting down KC the rest of the way to win three straight elimination games.

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2015 01:20 PM Re: I Still Believe

Be nice if the bats woke up too. Especially since, for all the talk about KC's contact rates and aggressive approach that exploits every chance they get, this 'talent' of theirs still just netted them runs at a rate barely above league average over the course of the season. It's actually their pitching which ranked much closer to the league leading levels (more due to the pen than the starters but we're not exactly busting up their starters either). Bottom line: it would be nice if the offense tonight consisted of more than just two solo HRs and a combination passed ball/brain fart by Rios out in RF.

d'Kong76 Nov 01 2015 01:33 PM Re: I Still Believe

Oh man, the clock is slowwww... [youtube:2la77th4]qAZaazPORSk[/youtube:2la77th4]

batmagadanleadoff Nov 01 2015 01:49 PM Re: I Still Believe

Frayed Knot wrote: Be nice if the bats woke up too. Especially since, for all the talk about KC's contact rates and aggressive approach that exploits every chance they get, this 'talent' of theirs still just netted them runs at a rate barely above league average over the course of the season. It's actually their pitching which ranked much closer to the league leading levels (more due to the pen than the starters but we're not exactly busting up their starters either). Bottom line: it would be nice if the offense tonight consisted of more than just two solo HRs and a combination passed ball/brain fart by Rios out in RF. I know what you mean. At the risk of overanalyzing just four WS games, and with the usual disclaimers and qualifiers about short series, randomness, small sample sizes and blah blah blah -- each team won one decisive game, a blow-out essentially -- while the Royals won the two squeakers. Skill? Close calls? Luck? Anybody's game? I'll take mostly all of the above except for skill when it comes to those two close games. The Royals won those two games on a collection of dinks and dunks and nicks and broken bat singles. The key play so far, Murphy's error, where Hosmer hit a slow squib, a mistake, a batted ball that he had no intention of hitting and no intention of hitting it where it went -- to the infield lip. And on a tough pitch from Familia. Hosmer's series turning shot was a fucking accident and there's no doubt that at the precise micorfraction of an instant that Hosmer hit that ball, he wished that he could take it back. It's luck. And I'm more than tired from reading about the great fucking Royals, because if they were as great as everyone's making them out to be, if they were truly so much better than the Mets, they would've already swept the damn thing and outscored the Mets by 20. I'll take the Mets HR power any day of the week over a team that has to string together a half a dozen unbelievable you'll never see that again for the rest of your life plays just to score two or three runs.

Centerfield Nov 01 2015 02:03 PM Re: I Still Believe

I think they will win tonight. In fact, I think we blow them out tonight. Fuck the Royals.

Fman99 Nov 01 2015 02:42 PM Re: I Still Believe

I believe more now than I did at the start of this thread.

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2015 02:52 PM Re: I Still Believe

batmagadanleadoff wrote: And I'm more than tired from reading about the great fucking Royals, because if they were as great as everyone's making them out to be, if they were truly so much better than the Mets, they would've already swept the damn thing and outscored the Mets by 20. I'll take the Mets HR power any day of the week over a team that has to string together a half a dozen unbelievable you'll never see that again for the rest of your life plays just to score two or three runs. The thing is, there IS a legitimate discussion to be had about whether KC's method of building a team through high-contact / low-K / speed & defense is a good 'Moneyball' style of under-valued approach in this day where power is king and damn the strikeouts (didn't have the money to buy power sez GM Moore - so went with gloves & speed instead) and I'm sure we're going to hear a lot of off-season opining of how this is the wave of the future that Sandy & Cashman MUST!!! capitalize on immediately. Copy the winner articles are the easiest column idea ever. But, yeah, if you listen to enough people it's like the Royals have built one of the great offensive machines ever seen instead of one which, because of their below average power AND OBP, were only slightly above average when it came to scoring runs this season [6th best 4.47 R/G vs 4.39 AL AVG]. And I suppose it's natural to look at it that way if you are merely one of the 'drop-in' types who's paying attention for the first time and witnessed how they came up off the mat vs Houston [scoring 7 times in the 8th & 9th innings down 2 games to 1] and again against Toronto [scored 4 times late after a botched pop-fly, etc.], plus the two late rallies vs the Mets. One of the talking heads quoted a stat last night about how often they had scored (and not been scored ON) in the late innings as if that was some sort of intentional skill or strategy. Except that the larger size, one known quaintly as the 162 game regular season, shows that the Royals score a lower pct of their runs in late (7-9) innings as compared to the league as a whole. And it also ignores that their arms held those mighty Jays bats to 3 runs or fewer in 4 of the 6 games during the ALCS and are holding the middle of the Mets lineup down as well. But, you know how it is, bending the facts to fit the story is usually easier than the other way around.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 01 2015 03:09 PM Re: I Still Believe

Frayed Knot wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: And I'm more than tired from reading about the great fucking Royals, because if they were as great as everyone's making them out to be, if they were truly so much better than the Mets, they would've already swept the damn thing and outscored the Mets by 20. I'll take the Mets HR power any day of the week over a team that has to string together a half a dozen unbelievable you'll never see that again for the rest of your life plays just to score two or three runs. The thing is, there IS a legitimate discussion to be had about whether KC's method of building a team through high-contact / low-K / speed & defense is a good 'Moneyball' style of under-valued approach in this day where power is king and damn the strikeouts.... Definitely. So long as that discussion's not disproportionately based on what's happened in just these past four WS games. Which brings up another big peeve of mine that I raise every year around this time. Why can't the networks show the players' regular season stats? And when they do, why is it so supertiny? Why do they think that the 20 or 30 AB's these players accumulated in the post-season mean more than a full regular season's worth? Who are they catering to when they decide on the graphics? The casual fan who probably doesn't watch one entire regular season game from first to last pitch?

cooby classic Nov 01 2015 04:16 PM Re: I Still Believe

[video:2aia5vmm]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baOz601--b0[/video:2aia5vmm] Syrupy, but sweet. This is for you, Mets. Geez, I really wish they could see what we are saying

Mets Willets Point Nov 01 2015 08:38 PM Re: I Still Believe

My son & his best friend both celebrated their birthday today. His buddy's last name is Duda, so we gave him a Lucas Duda t-shirt. Hoping that means big things for Lucas tonight.

Edgy MD Nov 01 2015 08:53 PM Re: I Still Believe

I like.

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2015 09:22 PM Re: I Still Believe

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Who are they catering to when they decide on the graphics? The casual fan who probably doesn't watch one entire regular season game from first to last pitch? That's exactly who networks are aiming at in post-season games or even GoTW type of broadcasts.