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New Deal for Terry

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2015 03:58 PM

Two-year extension, says Carig.

soupcan Nov 03 2015 03:59 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

Geez, if I'm Terry I'm thinking about leaving. I'm old and this job is stressful. On the other hand - these guys could take me to the promised land rather quickly.

El Segundo Escupidor Nov 03 2015 04:10 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2015 04:10 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

Not surprised. Not pleased.

Zvon Nov 03 2015 04:10 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

Terry deserves to ride this wave of pitchers the next few years. Hopefully, he goes out on top.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2015 04:12 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

Cutting back on bonehead pitching changes would be a smart step towards that goal.

Centerfield Nov 03 2015 04:32 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

I'll hold off on commenting until my anger dissipates a bit. I know that Terry did a great job overall, but the sting of his bonehead moves in the post-season, and most specifically the last 3 games is still too fresh in my mind. But as mentioned, no surprise at all. I mean, the guy won the pennant. We're lucky he didn't get 3 years.

TransMonk Nov 03 2015 04:38 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

I haven't been the biggest Terry fan over the years, but I'm more than OK with the two year deal. I think Terry has gotten better at managing each season. That's big for a manager since it seems like most of them like to be know-it-all experts that never evolve or learn on the job.

86-Dreamer Nov 03 2015 05:07 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

TransMonk wrote: I haven't been the biggest Terry fan over the years, but I'm more than OK with the two year deal. I think Terry has gotten better at managing each season. That's big for a manager since it seems like most of them like to be know-it-all experts that never evolve or learn on the job. this sums it up nicely for me

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2015 05:20 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

I've come around a little on Terry. Although I still get mad at him when our guys don't execute, day to day he rarely gets outmaneuvered by the other manager, and he has terrific goodwill with the media - I mean, they absolutely love him, and that helps to establish authority and continuity with our youngish team. I'd like to see the club get better at the little things now, and hope he's held accountable for that going forward. Given our success this year I suppose the only way he'd go would be of his own accord anyway, but did not think we'd see the prospect of him outlasting the front office guys, but now there's a chance he might.

Lefty Specialist Nov 03 2015 06:23 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

I'd rather have him than Dusty Baker. :) I'm OK with the 2-year deal. It's all he wants anyway since he's talking about retiring after that. He's the manager of the National League champions; of course he's going to get an extension.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2015 06:40 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

Any announcements with regard to the staff? I tend to think Geren is gone. Go ahead. Make Wally bench coach. I dare you.

metirish Nov 03 2015 07:51 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

No surprise , the players play for him and he seems to leave them alone .....

Fman99 Nov 03 2015 09:26 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

I'm fine with this. He took them to the World Series. Give him another shot with this group of guys. See what his encore is.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2015 09:44 PM Re: New Deal for Terry

Coming up as he was on the final year of his contract (option year actually) the club was pretty much forced into doing something seeing as how allowing a pennant winning manager to enter the next season in full lame-duck status is probably the poorest option out there. That leaves either extending him or, in effect, firing him and the latter certainly isn't a good move pr-wise, particularly absent some outstanding candidate ready to take over.

MFS62 Nov 04 2015 08:51 AM Re: New Deal for Terry

Watching Terry manage a game is like watching a drunk go through an entire book of matches before he finally lights his cigarette with his last match. He gets the desired results, but sometimes it is painful watching him do it. He sure makes the IGTs interesting. Later

Edgy MD Nov 04 2015 08:54 AM Re: New Deal for Terry

Does anybody feel the same?

seawolf17 Nov 04 2015 08:55 AM Re: New Deal for Terry

Fman99 wrote: I'm fine with this. He took them to the World Series. Give him another shot with this group of guys. See what his encore is. Me too. He seems to be a good fit with this team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 04 2015 09:02 AM Re: New Deal for Terry Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2015 09:04 AM

Likable enough to keep around and root for... but not so much on the strategic end. He gets in his way a little less than he used to... until things get froggy, in which case it's fucking Overmanagement Jamboree time. From a lineup construction/day-to-day standpoint, he's not bad, although the inability to manage platoons effectively is particularly infuriating. (And it'll really burn if we end up trying to replace YoYo's production on the cheap, as you might suspect.)

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2015 09:03 AM Re: New Deal for Terry

If he makes it to the end of this two-year contract, he will have managed more Mets games than anyone in the club's history. (Never would have guess that when he was hired.) Two full seasons would put him at 1,134. Davey Johnson 1012 Bobby Valentine 1003 Terry Collins 810 Passing Davey Johnson in wins is possible, but won't be easy. He'd have to average 101 wins over the next two years. (And how great would that be?) Davey Johnson 595 Bobby Valentine 536 Terry Collins 394 Meanwhile, he's just about certain to become the losingest manager in Mets history. He'll probably pass Davey Johnson and Joe Torre in his first couple of weeks. (Hopefully not sooner than that.) It will take 52 losses to pass Bobby Valentine for the record. And if he avoids 52 losses in 2016, he'll certainly be invited back for 2017. Bobby Valentine 467 Joe Torre 420 Davey Johnson 417 Terry Collins 416

seawolf17 Nov 04 2015 11:12 AM Re: New Deal for Terry

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It will take 52 losses to pass Bobby Valentine for the record. THEN I GUESS THAT RECORD IS SAFE UNTIL 2017. LET'S FUCKIN' WIN THIS THING, TERRY.