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The Dan Warthen Slider
Edgy MD Nov 29 2015 08:37 PM |
It's a coupla months old, but I just stumbled upon this FanGraphs article, which suggests that a big part of the success for the Mets pitching staff is that they're throwing a pitch not readily available to pitchers on other teams, a slider with a little less concern for break and a little more for power, tight spin, and location.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 29 2015 09:41 PM Re: The Dan Warthan |
Ceetar/ Those FanGraphs guys are just making this stuff up. /Ceetar
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 29 2015 11:03 PM Re: The Dan Warthen Slider |
There have been a LOT of "Warthen slider" references in the last few months in various, analytically-minded precincts of the Met-ernet. I had wondered about the source.
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Edgy MD Nov 30 2015 07:15 AM Re: The Dan Warthen Slider |
Add them to the thread. I want DOCUMENTATION!
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MFS62 Nov 30 2015 08:50 AM Re: The Dan Warthan |
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Roger Craig kept the secret of the splitter to himself until after he left the Mets. He never taught it to any of the other pitchers on the 1962 Mets. Dan Warthan's slider has broken more hearts than Bette Davis' eyes. Later
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cooby classic Nov 30 2015 08:54 AM Re: The Dan Warthen Slider |
Sounds like a dance
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Edgy MD Nov 30 2015 09:04 AM Re: The Dan Warthen Slider |
Or a tasty lunchtime treat.
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Ceetar Nov 30 2015 09:22 AM Re: The Dan Warthan |
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I've actually linked this article here before. But hey, maybe I'm biased because I like Eno. I'm not calling for Warthen to be fired anymore, but I still don't like him and think the Mets could do better.(I don't think they necessarily would if they'd have fired him years ago either though) My complaints were never that he was useless though. He was supposedly influential in Dickey's knuckleballs changing speeds too. I just think he seems poor in getting pitchers prepared, particularly to start the season, and guys that don't fit in (i.e. don't really feel comfortable throwing a slider) aren't helped out as much as they could be. Either way, having this set of pitchers to work with certainly helps.
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