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In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 09 2015 08:42 AM

I know we got some good debate in some other thread around this guy, but let's consolidate it. PROS: Excellent power for a SS -- likely to go homer-for-homer with guys like Zobrist and Heyward Athletic, capable of spectacular plays, range at SS Frees up Flores for 2B/UT role Durable QO stigma + bad year = comes cheap in years? Won't cost us current talent CONS: Whiffs a lot Costs a draft pick Puzzling: Very poor O&D in walk year, although righted the ship in 2nd half. Secretly injured? Unhappy?

Edgy MD Dec 09 2015 08:49 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

PRO: Buds with Cal Ripken, who gave him a pep talk that precipitated him turning his season around (in part). CON: Buds with Cal Ripken, from whom he needed a pep talk that precipitated him turning his season around (in part).

Nymr83 Dec 09 2015 09:13 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

He is a better defender than I thought looking at the stats...I think I'd still rather roll the dice with Wilmer Flores while waiting for Cechiani or eventually Ahmed. On the other hand I realize it not an either/or because Flores could be the starter at 2B and Wright-insurance at 3B. Something tells me we'd all be very unhappy with a Desmond-Deal a few years in.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 09 2015 09:35 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

I think what I'm hoping to get here is one of those 1 or 1+1 "make-good" contracts for him, as opposed to the long-term, with the idea that given his weird 2015 and QO penalty, he has to take such. That's hard to count on happening, but who else is in on this guy?

Edgy MD Dec 09 2015 09:41 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

Signing him now sure beats last season's proposal to trade Syndergaard for him.

TransMonk Dec 09 2015 09:46 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

I'm of the opinion that if the Mets are going to lock up a SS with a track record, it needs to be a sure thing. There are a glut of SS maturing in the Mets' minor league system that I would not want to block long term. I'm not opposed to riding Wilmer until one of them is ready.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 09 2015 09:51 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

"Seems like something I could be okay with. But I think... yeah, let's let this one go by." --Desmond, after any one of, like, 30 potentially-routine plays last year

Lefty Specialist Dec 09 2015 09:59 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

Edgy MD Dec 09 2015 10:12 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

TransMonk wrote: I'm of the opinion that if the Mets are going to lock up a SS with a track record, it needs to be a sure thing. There are a glut of SS maturing in the Mets' minor league system that I would not want to block long term. I'm not opposed to riding Wilmer until one of them is ready. This sounds like me until JUST before reading the report of Wilmer's broken ankle. I'm a little jitterier now. But yeah, there's a good chance both Reynolds and Cecchini debut this season. Don't know if there'll be enough shortstopping among them and Flores and Tejada, but there might.

Centerfield Dec 09 2015 10:16 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

The QO is the real killer for me. I'd be find with giving Desmond a short-term deal. I think he has good upside, and if he sucks we can move Flores/Reynolds/Cecchini in. But you don't want to give up that draft pick for a short term commitment. It's tough.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 09 2015 10:22 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

You get that pick back when Muffy signs.

Frayed Knot Dec 09 2015 10:32 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: You get that pick back when Muffy signs. We'd lose pick #24-ish and get back #40-ish in that exchange. But, in general, if you're signing Desmond (or any other QO guy) instead of Murphy then, yeah, the picks at least come close to canceling each other out. Losing Muffy and signing a non-QO guy allows us to keep our #24 and add the 40th. Signing both would mean neither pick but I can't see a scenario where that happens.

seawolf17 Dec 09 2015 10:34 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

Edgy MD wrote: PRO: Buds with Cal Ripken, who gave him a pep talk that precipitated him turning his season around (in part). CON: Buds with Cal Ripken, from whom he needed a pep talk that precipitated him turning his season around (in part). "What you want to do, Ian, is make sure that when you swing that bat, it hits the ball that's coming at you."

Edgy MD Dec 09 2015 10:36 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

Alexei Ramirez (Hijack!), I believe, gets you into something like Desmond's neighborhood without sacrificing a draft pick.

Centerfield Dec 09 2015 11:10 AM Re: In this thread, Ian Desmond is the topic of conversation

Yikes. .642 OPS. 34 years old. Wilmer please.