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Michael Cuddyer Retired?

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 02:15 AM

Twitter is buzzing that the Mets listed Cuddyer retiring on their transaction page. It was soon removed.

When asked, the Mets, instead of saying it was a mistake, said "No comment".

themetfairy
Dec 12 2015 02:17 AM
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No shit?

That would be awesome!

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 02:23 AM
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Confirmed says Adam Rubin.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 02:23 AM
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This just in. Ceetar still expecting big things from him in 2016.

themetfairy
Dec 12 2015 02:24 AM
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Addition by subtraction!

metirish
Dec 12 2015 02:31 AM
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Beat guys now reporting this as true, wow

bmfc1
Dec 12 2015 02:31 AM
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I wonder what it's like to be able to walk away from $12,500,000. This frees money for Cespedes or Span.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 02:31 AM
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There must be some sort of buyout no?

Rockin' Doc
Dec 12 2015 02:32 AM
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How much cash dose that free up? Too bad that money isn't likely to help land the big outfield bat the Mets so desperately need.

bmfc1
Dec 12 2015 02:33 AM
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"Here's $6 million. Take the season off."

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 02:33 AM
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The fucker couldn't do it a day earlier? Like when Heyward was still available? Fuck even 12 hours earlier.

themetfairy
Dec 12 2015 02:36 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
The fucker couldn't do it a day earlier? Like when Heyward was still available? Fuck even 12 hours earlier.


This

d'Kong76
Dec 12 2015 02:38 AM
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This is a bizarre turn of events. Jeez, I was just kidding about
the Coach Cuddy stuff and he takes his football and goes home.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 02:42 AM
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Think he could be the new bench coach? Like, not kidding.

d'Kong76
Dec 12 2015 02:50 AM
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Hope this kinda abrupt decision is just a life choice and not being
made because of some other bad health (or other) news that has
yet to be reported.

metirish
Dec 12 2015 02:50 AM
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Question, why would he take a buyout on guaranteed $$$

A Boy Named Seo
Dec 12 2015 02:54 AM
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All of this is so weird.

Reading about a buyout - not that it's not a nice thing to do and all, but why would there be one if Cuddyer's just decided to hang 'em up?

There's been like a $10M refund to the payroll coffers. Gotta take advantage of this gift here, Mets.

Mex17
Dec 12 2015 02:54 AM
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Until I hear otherwise, I am taking this as there now being $12.5 million of dead money on the books, one less quality veteran on the bench, no backup at first base, and a step closer to a AAAA player like Nieuwenhuis or Campbell on the Opening Day roster. None of that is good.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 12 2015 03:00 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
The fucker couldn't do it a day earlier? Like when Heyward was still available? Fuck even 12 hours earlier.


Freeing up one year of Cuddyer salary wouldn't come close to paying for eight years of Heyward.

This is good news though. It's exactly what I was hoping Jason Bay would do.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 03:06 AM
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They would have only had to come up with another 175 million or so. Maybe only $155 if you take away Cabrera.

All kidding aside, maybe if he had retired earlier, the Mets decide to look at upper tier OF'ers, and maybe then they decide Heyward is the best fit.

Mex17
Dec 12 2015 03:09 AM
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We might need this guy now:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/_/i ... eve-pearce

Righthanded hitter who can play first base and both corner outfield spots.

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2015 03:16 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
The fucker couldn't do it a day earlier? Like when Heyward was still available? Fuck even 12 hours earlier.


Freeing up one year of Cuddyer salary wouldn't come close to paying for eight years of Heyward.

This is good news though. It's exactly what I was hoping Jason Bay would do.

Sort of what Bay did, though. Taking a partial payment to walk away. Main difference was that he tried to start over in the other league.

Last guy to walk away leaving money on the table by his own initiative (assuming this is how it went down) was Mo, I think.

Mex17
Dec 12 2015 03:18 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2015 03:49 AM

Bur are we even sure that he is leaving money on the table. I'm honestly asking, because the last time I checked all contracts are guaranteed. That means that you get paid if you are cut. . .I'm not really sure what that means if you walk away.

RealityChuck
Dec 12 2015 03:45 AM
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Several sources indicate that if a player voluntarily retires, he's not paid for any of the outstanding contract.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/27/sport ... ref=sports

https://www.quora.com/If-a-professional ... his-salary

Cuddyer's gets paid through the end of this month, but gets no money after January 1, 2016, even though the contract was for two years.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 12 2015 03:55 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
The fucker couldn't do it a day earlier? Like when Heyward was still available? Fuck even 12 hours earlier.


This


GALL DANG NIT

dgwphotography
Dec 12 2015 05:12 AM
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Everyone who is dancing on his grave should be ashamed of themselves. This tells me that his surgery (hernia?) might not have gone well, or he has another health issue. Neither scenario is something to celebrate over.

I have a feeling that the Mets already knew, and that's why they went so hard after Zobrist. As for freeing up the money, it's already been spent.

Lefty Specialist
Dec 12 2015 11:40 AM
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Had nothing against Cuddyer the person, but hated the performance of Cuddyer the player, and hated that he cost too much as well as a draft pick..

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Coach Cuddy became Bench Coach Cuddy or Third Base Coach Cuddy.

MFS62
Dec 12 2015 12:32 PM
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Ka-ching!
Spend the newfound money wisely, Sandy.
And while you're at it, ask him to talk his old pal into retirement, too. (Before he seriously hurts himself)

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 12 2015 12:43 PM
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Well this is weird.

Oh and I agree with dwg, bad form to be celebrating something like this.

Mex17
Dec 12 2015 12:47 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2015 03:15 PM

Based upon that $92.2 million number that Rubin put out there as the payroll commitment going into the winter, things roughly break down like this. . .

$92.2 million

- $9 million for Niece

- $12.5 million for Cuddyer

+ $10.7 million for Walker

+ $8.5 million for Cabrera

= $89.65 million

Assuming that they have a $120 million budget to spend (not unreasonable given that this was the around the median for MLB last season and this is a New York-based defending NL Champion), that gives them around $30 million to play with.

So. . .

$10 million for Span or Parra

$10 million for an 8th inning guy

$5 million for Colon

$2 million for Blevins

$3 million for Steve Pearce

And there you go.

Frayed Knot
Dec 12 2015 01:34 PM
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I really wish that fans' first reaction to stuff like this wouldn't be to run around like a bunch of coked-up accountants.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 12 2015 02:05 PM
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Well, Cuddy is big about it.

themetfairy
Dec 12 2015 02:25 PM
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Being please about being done with a bad deal is hardly dancing on the man's grave. But from the moment we saw him play in Spring Training in March it was obvious that Cuddyer was well past his productive prime. The Mets overpaid for him for the wrong reasons, and frankly it is a relief that we won't have to watch him hobbling through another season.

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2015 02:31 PM
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I thought Mex only started threads.

Always tackling the big picture, though.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 12 2015 02:35 PM
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$10 million for an eighth-inning guy is a bit steep. Tony Sipp just signed for three years, $18 million.

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2015 02:42 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Well, Cuddy is big about it.


That's good stuff!
There were so many people in the Twins organization who impacted my career. Too many to mention. But a big influence was Larry Corrigan, the Twins minor league field coordinator at the time. LC was the definition of the term “attention to detail.” To me, he epitomized the spirit of the Twins organization.

Our lockers had to be in order, our cleats had to be clean, and our infield needed to be errorless. Professionalism off the field translated to it on the field. I remember one time he made me get a new glove because there was a crease in the palm that shouldn’t have been there. Everything had to be perfect. One day one of the players didn’t have his locker arranged in the right order. We came in after practice and every single locker was unpacked in a pile in the middle of the room. It took us forever to sort everything out. But it never happened again.

I was trying to guess if he was a former college coach or former army sergeant. Turns out to have been the former. The Twins rehired him in recent years as Terry Ryan tries to put the organization back on track.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 02:52 PM
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Is it bad form? Then I guess I am guilty as charged.

Let's remember, Cuddyer did not die. And he has not been struck ill with a serious disease. He is a person that was given the ultimate gift of playing major league baseball. He is retiring after 15 years, a long and successful career, as a very rich man. Is he sad today? Sure. We should all be so sad.

I celebrate today because I am a Mets fan, not a Michael Cuddyer fan. And as long as Cuddyer was on the team, not performing, using up limited resources, his interests were aligned against the Mets. I celebrate today because his retirement greatly helps the Mets.

I also welcome number crunching. Crunch away Mex. Some here may pretend that the payroll is less important than what it is, but in my opinion, money is the single biggest factor in achieving our ultimate goal, which is to win a championship. And by factor, I mean obstacle. We are playing against a stacked deck. We are playing teams with far more resources than us. So when resources free up, I understand celebrating and number crunching.

It's exactly what I did.

themetfairy
Dec 12 2015 02:58 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
Is it bad form? Then I guess I am guilty as charged.

Let's remember, Cuddyer did not die. And he has not been struck ill with a serious disease. He is a person that was given the ultimate gift of playing major league baseball. He is retiring after 15 years, a long and successful career, as a very rich man. Is he sad today? Sure. We should all be so sad.

I celebrate today because I am a Mets fan, not a Michael Cuddyer fan. And as long as Cuddyer was on the team, not performing, using up limited resources, his interests were aligned against the Mets. I celebrate today because his retirement greatly helps the Mets.

I also welcome number crunching. Crunch away Mex. Some here may pretend that the payroll is less important than what it is, but in my opinion, money is the single biggest factor in achieving our ultimate goal, which is to win a championship. And by factor, I mean obstacle. We are playing against a stacked deck. We are playing teams with far more resources than us. So when resources free up, I understand celebrating and number crunching.

It's exactly what I did.



I love you Man!

d'Kong76
Dec 12 2015 03:00 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2015 03:00 PM

Grave dancing is a bit of stretch.
The Mets have said they have the budget to continue to look for CF help,
a fifth starter and a reliever. I hope they add someone who can live up to
what expectations they had for Cuddy last off-season and and they don't
sit on their hands thinking they've made enough changes.
The notion posted yesterday that they are better 'today' than they were at
the end of the year still has my head spinning around.

Mex17
Dec 12 2015 03:00 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2015 10:29 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
$10 million for an eighth-inning guy is a bit steep. Tony Sipp just signed for three years, $18 million.


My bad, I thought that O"Day set the market at $9 million per. If you think you can shave a few mil of the set-up man, that might make some sense, but not too much $$$ shaved off.

d'Kong76
Dec 12 2015 03:02 PM
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You're right about Clippard, 8.3 million... god, I wouldn't have guessed that.
(ooops, you edited it out... but I looked at bbrdotcom)

Mex17
Dec 12 2015 03:06 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2015 03:09 PM

d'Kong76 wrote:
You're right about Clippard, 8.3 million... god, I wouldn't have guessed that.
(ooops, you edited it out... but I looked at bbrdotcom)


I edited my post because different places are reporting his 2015 salary as various amounts. Some say around $8 million, others around $5 million. Regardless, the going rate for set-up men is right around $8 to $9 mil annually over three years.

Frayed Knot
Dec 12 2015 03:18 PM
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Erasing wise-ass comments doesn't mean they didn't happen or weren't seen.

Mex17
Dec 12 2015 03:24 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2015 03:26 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Erasing wise-ass comments doesn't mean they didn't happen or weren't seen.


But the difference between me and you is that I don't go on the attack initially (while also being the guy who has 35,000+ posts on the site that was set up to be the "more refined" option to another site that I will not mention by name).

So stay classy, pencil-sketch.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 03:24 PM
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That being said, very classy move by Cuddyer all around. Both to walk away and to write that statement.

I would never expect an athlete to act so altruistically. The move there is to show up in Spring Training, talk about being in the best shape of your life, then collect checks while sitting on the 60 day DL.

themetfairy
Dec 12 2015 03:25 PM
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True.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 03:31 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
Is it bad form? Then I guess I am guilty as charged.

Let's remember, Cuddyer did not die. And he has not been struck ill with a serious disease. He is a person that was given the ultimate gift of playing major league baseball. He is retiring after 15 years, a long and successful career, as a very rich man. Is he sad today? Sure. We should all be so sad.

I celebrate today because I am a Mets fan, not a Michael Cuddyer fan. And as long as Cuddyer was on the team, not performing, using up limited resources, his interests were aligned against the Mets. I celebrate today because his retirement greatly helps the Mets.

I also welcome number crunching. Crunch away Mex. Some here may pretend that the payroll is less important than what it is, but in my opinion, money is the single biggest factor in achieving our ultimate goal, which is to win a championship. And by factor, I mean obstacle. We are playing against a stacked deck. We are playing teams with far more resources than us. So when resources free up, I understand celebrating and number crunching.

It's exactly what I did.



I love you Man!



And I have a fond regard for you as well.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 03:37 PM
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Mex17 wrote:
Based upon that $92.2 million number that Rubin put out there as the payroll commitment going into the winter, things roughly break down like this. . .

$92.2 million

- $9 million for Niece

- $12.5 million for Cuddyer

+ $10.7 million for Walker

+ $8.5 million for Cabrera

= $89.65 million

Assuming that they have a $120 million budget to spend (not unreasonable given that this was the around the median for MLB last season and this is a New York-based defending NL Champion), that gives them around $30 million to play with.

So. . .

$10 million for Span or Parra

$10 million for an 8th inning guy

$5 million for Colon

$2 million for Blevins

$3 million for Steve Pearce

And there you go.


If there really is $30 million, I would go $20 million for Cespedes/Upton, then spend the remaining $10 million on bullpen help. Blevins is a great start. I think Cishek could be had for less than $5 million. I'd also look into bringing back Kelly Johnson, as I think he can still be a very useful piece.

Frayed Knot
Dec 12 2015 04:00 PM
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Mex17 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Erasing wise-ass comments doesn't mean they didn't happen or weren't seen.


But the difference between me and you is that I don't go on the attack initially (while also being the guy who has 35,000+ posts on the site that was set up to be the "more refined" option to another site that I will not mention by name).

So stay classy, pencil-sketch.



Attack? Please!

And I have no idea what post totals or other boards have to do with this.
Nor do I know what a "pencil sketch" is. Nor do I think I want to.

d'Kong76
Dec 12 2015 04:16 PM
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I think he's referring to your dashing avatar, Mr. Pencil Sketch. hahaha

Vic Sage
Dec 12 2015 04:36 PM
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S'long, Cuddy, and thanks for all the fish you didn't catch. And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Oh, and please take Ceetar with you.

Mex17 wrote:
Based upon that $92.2 million number that Rubin put out there as the payroll commitment going into the winter, things roughly break down like this. . .
$92.2 million
- $9 million for Niece
- $12.5 million for Cuddyer
+ $10.7 million for Walker
+ $8.5 million for Cabrera
= $89.65 million

Assuming that they have a $120 million budget to spend (not unreasonable given that this was the around the median for MLB last season and this is a New York-based defending NL Champion), that gives them around $30 million to play with.

So. . .
$10 million for Span or Parra
$10 million for an 8th inning guy
$5 million for Colon
$2 million for Blevins
$3 million for Steve Pearce
And there you go.


Yeah, just replace Span or Parra with Cespedes, and we've got something. But god forbid we have a $130-$135m payroll, that might actually put us at the bottom rung of the top 1/3 of payrolls next year.

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2015 05:08 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
Some here may pretend that the payroll is less important than what it is, but in my opinion, money is the single biggest factor in achieving our ultimate goal, which is to win a championship.

Enough with the "some here" stuff. Talk about bad form.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 05:22 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
Some here may pretend that the payroll is less important than what it is, but in my opinion, money is the single biggest factor in achieving our ultimate goal, which is to win a championship.

Enough with the "some here" stuff. Talk about bad form.


Are you implying that this is not true? Ceetar and MGIM are outspoken about this. Ashie falls into this camp too.

As for your standpoint, I don't know where you fall. I know you refute a lot of my points. You were not sold on Heyward. You don't advocate for Cespedes. Upton, you say, is not a good fit. But I don't know that I've seen you speak openly on your thoughts about the payroll.

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2015 06:01 PM
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I'm saying all here can speak speak for themselves. I'm-not-naming-names straw man shots like that is part of what Saladoc used to make this place as miserable as hell.

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2015 06:07 PM
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I've kind of supported going big on Cespedes, depending on how big. I just think — and I'm dangerously close to entertaining broad, sweeping generalizations with regard to Cubanos — he's kind of crazy, living in his own orbit, and possibly juiced to the eyebrows.

I just don't like — have never liked — spending the offseason coveting other people's stuff (and former stuff). That's just not what I root for. I become interested in Mets when they become Mets.

Ashie62
Dec 12 2015 06:14 PM
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Put the money to good use. Thank you Jason Cuddy!

Now get Cespedes!!!!

bmfc1
Dec 12 2015 06:17 PM
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Sherman opines today that the Mets are better off with Span because Yo takes away AB's from Conforto.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 06:17 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm saying all here can speak speak for themselves. I'm-not-naming-names straw man shots like that is part of what Saladoc used to make this place as miserable as hell.


I didn't think it was really contested that some disagree with me on the payroll issue. Anyone that has been reading the past few weeks can see that and know who that is. I know I have not been arguing against myself.

I'm happy to name names, as you saw above. I didn't think, and still don't think, this is necessary.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 06:20 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I've kind of supported going big on Cespedes, depending on how big. I just think — and I'm dangerously close to entertaining broad, sweeping generalizations with regard to Cubanos — he's kind of crazy, living in his own orbit, and possibly juiced to the eyebrows.

I just don't like — have never liked — spending the offseason coveting other people's stuff (and former stuff). That's just not what I root for. I become interested in Mets when they become Mets.


I understand this. And you've been consistent on this throughout the years. You and I both advocated re-upping Piazza at the end, and frankly, we both whiffed on that.

Which makes your failure to endorse Cespedes strange. It's out of character for you. You started a Murphy thread.

I hear you on the Cespedes reservations. I have them too. I far preferred Heyward (I have no such hangups about coveting others' stuff). But I think he and Upton, imperfect as they are, are the best options left.

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2015 06:59 PM
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Edgy endorses Cespedes.

Centerfield
Dec 12 2015 07:41 PM
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Got it. Agreed.

Ashie62
Dec 12 2015 09:18 PM
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Get Cespedes. I miss the parrot wear already.

seawolf17
Dec 13 2015 06:15 PM
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Fuck, this thread went south quickly.

Best wishes to Cuddy. Always seemed like a good guy, even when he was scuffling, and to walk away from $12.5M is bold as hell. I wish him the best in retirement and I will remember him as a very good major league player.

Ashie62
Dec 13 2015 06:44 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Fuck, this thread went south quickly.

Best wishes to Cuddy. Always seemed like a good guy, even when he was scuffling, and to walk away from $12.5M is bold as hell. I wish him the best in retirement and I will remember him as a very good major league player.


Centerfield started talking for others. Thread is dead.

Frayed Knot
Dec 13 2015 06:46 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
... to walk away from $12.5M is bold as hell.


Both sides have 'no commented' to questions about a buyout.

seawolf17
Dec 14 2015 12:41 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
... to walk away from $12.5M is bold as hell.


Both sides have 'no commented' to questions about a buyout.

I'm figuring -- because he's not an idiot and because he's a member of a union with an agent -- that he's not getting nothing.

Edgy MD
Dec 14 2015 02:19 PM
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And for whatever it's worth, Cuddyer seems to have mentioned Jeff Wilpon most specifically when talking about bringing his intentions to the team. One could conclude, if one were inclined, that Alderson wasn't exactly driving the bargain on the other side of the table when the buyout was negotiated.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 14 2015 03:19 PM
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Jeff Wilpon can go fuck himself.

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batmagadanleadoff
Dec 14 2015 03:26 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
Being please about being done with a bad deal is hardly dancing on the man's grave.


Yeah, I know. What the hell was that all about? We can't say that the guy sucked at the end of his career, just like everybody else including Willie Mays and Hank Aaron and Mickey Mantle sucked at the end of their careers? The guy had a 15 year career, and is retiring at age 35 after having made over 80 million dollars from baseball. That's some fucking grave.

I said ... 80 million dollars.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 14 2015 03:35 PM
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I didn't say you can't say what you said, I said it was bad form the way it was said.

At which point some people got awfully defensive, and others copped to it.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 14 2015 03:39 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I didn't say you can't say what you said, I said it was bad form the way it was said.

At which point some people got awfully defensive, and others copped to it.


Who's talking about you?

Edgy MD
Dec 28 2015 01:44 PM
Re: Michael Cuddyer Retired?

Cuddy as a pinch hitter over his career: .355 / .431 / .548 // .979.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 29 2015 01:01 AM
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Right? Losing Cuddyer didn't make me want to cut myself or anything, but his loss isn't necessarily a net gain. Assuming even slightly better health than last year, he could have been a very useful--if overpriced-- piece of a good offensive unit, and arguably more useful than anyone we'll pick up/use in his stead.

Centerfield
Dec 29 2015 01:40 AM
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But .680 OPS in 19 ABs as a PH last year. And .411 OPS in another 19 ABs as a DH. Michael Cuddyer was shot guys.

I was hoping that the oblique surgery would serve as a turnaround as well. But his decision to retire basically confirms what we saw all year long. The guy had nothing left in the tank.

Edgy MD
Mar 02 2016 06:45 PM
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Post reporting that the buyout for Cuddyer was $2-3 million, citing an "industry source."

That's certainly a lot less than I was expecting, which was more like 50 cents on the dollar for his $12.5 million salary.