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Muffy / Nats

Frayed Knot Dec 24 2015 10:41 PM

Reportedly agree to a three-year deal. Of course this is the same club that "reportedly" had a Brandon Phillips deal all in line and the team is not confirming this yet.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 24 2015 10:45 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Oh, worst nightmare for one of us.

Rockin' Doc Dec 24 2015 11:07 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Reported as a three year deal. I hate to see Murphy end up in Washington. He should be a good fit for the Nationals. He is a significant improvement (at least offensively) over Danny Espinosa at second base.

Centerfield Dec 25 2015 12:38 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

This fucking blows. I know there are a lot of reasons letting Murphy go makes sense, but it still fucking blows. That he went to the Nats just makes it worse. I fucking hate this winter.

Frayed Knot Dec 25 2015 02:05 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

Reported as a three year deal. I hate to see Murphy end up in Washington. He should be a good fit for the Nationals. He is a significant improvement (at least offensively) over Danny Espinosa at second base. He's more directly replacing Yunel Escobar who played 3rd for the Nats while Rendon was DL'd but was hired as their 2B and went on a one year splurge of .314/.375/.415 which was a 50-75 point jump across the board from his 2014 numbers so Muffy won't be that big an increase for them. And they still need to find themselves a SS unless they're going to move Espinosa there who may actually be a better SS than Desmond though not as good a hitter. And now this gives us a strategy against the Nats next year: hit it to Murph!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 25 2015 04:00 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

And make with the draft pick, Nats. Pronto.

Edgy MD Dec 25 2015 04:12 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

Here's a thing. By going 83-79, the Nats won just enough to keep that first round pick from being protected. Had they won only 80, they'd be picking 15th and the Mets would get their second round pick. Instead, the Mets grab the hardy #18 pick, project by Kiley McDaniel to be Braxton Garrett, LHP, Florence HS (AL). Way to beat up on the Nats, but not too bad, Mets.

Frayed Knot Dec 25 2015 04:43 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

The Mets don't get the Nats #18 pick. Via the new rules as of a couple years back the Nats lose the #18 pick but the acquired pick that the Mets get is tacked on to the end of the 1st round in some pre-determined order or another. So we'll wind up with an extra pick in the upper 30s to around #40 in addition to our regular #24 pick.

Centerfield Dec 25 2015 04:43 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

So that's what that last series was about. Well played Mets.

Edgy MD Dec 25 2015 04:44 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

Frayed Knot wrote: The Mets don't get the Nats #18 pick. Via the new rules as of a couple years back the Nats lose the #18 pick but the acquired pick that the Mets get is tacked on to the end of the 1st round in some pre-determined order or another. So we'll wind up with an extra pick in the upper 30s to around #40 in addition to our regular #24 pick. Right. Yuletide bummer.

Frayed Knot Dec 25 2015 05:14 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

Well it doesn't totally suck. For each QO FA who signs with a team who has a pick outside the top 10 but below the Mets slot at #24, that pick essentially disappears causing each pick after it to move up one slot. So Murphy signing with the Nats and Samardzija w/the Giants makes picks #18 & 19 go away so the NYM picks slide up to 22 & 38 rather than 24 & 40. The remaining QO FAs ranked ahead of Murphy are Ian Kennedy; Justin Upton; Hisashi Iwakuma; Wei-Yin Chen; Chris Davis; Ian Desmond; Jordan Zimmermann; Yovani Gallardo Zimmermann signed with the Tigers who have a protected (top 10) pick so that doesn't affect anything, nor does Iwakuma who, after a dalliance with the Dodgers, re-signed with his original team in Seattle. But for each of the remainder who sign (but not re-sign) with the Mariners, Red Sox, D-backs, Rays, Orioles, Indians, Twins, Angels, Astros, Yankees, or Rangers, those NYM picks will move up one additional slot.

Zvon Dec 26 2015 06:39 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

This news tried to ruin my Christmas but I wouldn't let it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 26 2015 09:04 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

I've been so busy, I JUST saw this. But, y'know, thanks be that he signed somewhere he isn't likely to haunt us or anything. It seemed like some of the batting-approach changes that led to last year's improvements-- greater contact rate, lower strikeout rates, more pulling/power-- were sustainable. I suppose now, we're hoping they aren't?

batmagadanleadoff Dec 26 2015 09:50 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

Plus, Murphy's new contract isn't prohibitively expensive. It surely isn't in the stratosphere. It's nowhere near what many experts were predicting, during the post-season and at the height of his powers, Murphy would get. It's the sort of contract a normal big market team gives out without blinking an eye. Not that money played a large role in the Mets decision to let Murphy go.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 26 2015 05:44 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Folks are saying that the QO draft-pick-penalty may have softened the market for/knocked down the price on everyone's favorite keystone-manning lifestyle consultant. But, yeah, he basically got Niese/Walker-ish money.

TransMonk Dec 26 2015 06:54 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Here's hoping he boots grounders and runs the team out of innings in Washington, now.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 26 2015 08:47 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Man, Cleveland was sleeping on this. I really wanted Muffy to sign with Cleveland. Can't think of a less relevant team to the Mets' prospects.

cooby classic Dec 26 2015 10:04 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

I thought he got traded to the Pirates

Edgy MD Dec 26 2015 11:41 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Folks are saying that the QO draft-pick-penalty may have softened the market for/knocked down the price on everyone's favorite keystone-manning lifestyle consultant. But, yeah, he basically got Niese/Walker-ish money. It's $1.8-ish million more than Walker is expected to get, but I imagine evading the years are the appeal for a Met team trying to rebuild their infield on the fly.

Ashie62 Jul 10 2016 03:14 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Whats done is done.

Centerfield Jul 10 2016 04:20 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

This shit is all Brandon Phillips' fault. Let's beat the shit out of him.

MFS62 Jul 11 2016 10:40 PM Re: Muffy / Nats Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 11 2016 11:44 PM

Centerfield wrote: This shit is all Brandon Phillips' fault. Let's beat the shit out of him. How about both Phillips AND Murph? That gets my vote. Later

Edgy MD Jul 11 2016 10:48 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Can we get a UMDB daiquiri with regard to who are the all-time leaders in RBI against the Mets in a single season? I would bet Daniel's fellow ex-Met Dave Kingman 1979 is the leader, but I'd also expect Muffy to be pretty close.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 11 2016 11:34 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Edgy MD wrote: Can we get a UMDB daiquiri with regard to who are the all-time leaders in RBI against the Mets in a single season? I would bet Daniel's fellow ex-Met Dave Kingman 1979 is the leader, but I'd also expect Muffy to be pretty close. Hank Aaron, 28. 1962.

Edgy MD Jul 12 2016 01:13 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

Wow, Kong '79 was only 20.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 12 2016 02:57 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Can we get a UMDB daiquiri with regard to who are the all-time leaders in RBI against the Mets in a single season? Oops, by the time I saw this the question had already been answered, but here are all players who have 20 or more RBI in a season against the Mets: Player Year RBI Henry Aaron 1962 28 Rico Carty 1964 27 Dick Allen 1968 25 Frank Howard 1962 23 Willie Mays 1962 23 Ken Boyer 1962 23 Deron Johnson 1965 23 Willie Stargell 1966 23 Ryne Sandberg 1990 22 Ryan Howard 2006 21 Daniel Murphy 2016 21 Don Demeter 1962 20 Jim Ray Hart 1966 20 Willie McCovey 1967 20 Dave Kingman 1979 20 Lots of examples from the 1960s, before divisional play, when the Mets played more teams more frequently. The only post-1969 instances are Sandberg in 1990, Howard in 2006, Murphy this year, and Kingman in 1979.

TransMonk Jul 13 2016 12:11 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

themetfairy Jul 13 2016 12:15 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

That was very classy of Murph.

Centerfield Jul 13 2016 05:15 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Yup. Way to go Murph. I don't know. Maybe it's fan goggles I'm wearing, but I feel like if you asked Murph right now to ditch his contract with Washington and come back, he'd do it in a heartbeat. Kinda like the reverse Tom Glavine. It also strikes me that Murph is very lucky. Not to take away anything from his relationship with Sandy, which must be great, but if Murph is writing in his name, he is incredibly blessed not to have someone in his inner circle of friends and family affected by cancer. I remember a few years ago, I saw a shot of Ron Darling holding that sign, and on it it simply stated "my catcher". Heartbreaking.

TransMonk Jul 13 2016 05:21 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Centerfield wrote: It also strikes me that Murph is very lucky. Not to take away anything from his relationship with Sandy, which must be great, but if Murph is writing in his name, he is incredibly blessed not to have someone in his inner circle of friends and family affected by cancer. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... -1.2709069 “My family has been really blessed in that we haven’t really been touched by cancer,” Murphy explained. “So, (Mets Vice President of PR) Jay Horwitz brought it up that Sandy is going through his treatment and so I thought it was fitting."

batmagadanleadoff Jul 16 2016 04:37 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Daniel Murphy gets the 538.com treatment. Lotsa links and graphs and data. Especially data. What The Hell’s Gotten Into Daniel Murphy? By Neil Paine Filed under MLB excerpt: When theretofore ordinary second baseman Daniel Murphy turned into the reincarnation of Babe Ruth during last year’s playoffs, it was a fun story. Murphy was with the New York Mets through their lean, mediocre post-Madoff years, and he was suddenly the driving force behind their surprise World Series run. It seemed proof that in a handful of baseball games, damn near anything can happen. But for the sabermetrically minded (which presumably included the Mets’ front office), Murphy was still the decent-but-not-great player that his overall record said he was, and at age 30, he was likely on the downside of his career. So during the winter, the Mets moved on from Murphy to Neil Walker at second base — which, according to the stats, was basically the right call. Murphy signed with the Washington Nationals instead, and although projections suggested that he would have a solid season, there didn’t seem to be any way that he would build on his outlier postseason performance. Those projections have turned out to be flat-out wrong. Instead of reverting to his previous form, Murphy has looked an awful lot like the guy who went on that postseason tear: He currently ranks third in the National League in Weighted Runs Created Plus (wRC+)1 and fourth in wins above replacement. (Murphy has also hit Mets pitching especially hard this year, delivering what already ranks as the most RBIs by a player against a team he played for the previous season since 1960.) For a guy who has never ranked higher than 37th in WAR, Murphy has taken a quantum leap forward. If Murphy maintains his current wRC+ for the entire season, it will be the 21st-biggest single-season improvement by a hitter over his previous career wRC+ at age 31 or older2 since 1901: read all of it here: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wha ... el-murphy/

G-Fafif Jul 16 2016 05:33 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

During last night's Snighcast, Steve Gelbs described Kevin Long's awe at being in the midst of so many great hitters discussing their craft at the ASG. The one point of admiration upon which they could all agree, Long told Gelbs, was...and I was thinking this is usually where you learn they're all fans of Tony Gwynn or somebody on that level...Daniel Murphy. There goes the greatest ex-Met hitter who ever lived.

themetfairy Jul 17 2016 08:30 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

With two outs in the bottom of the 9th and Pittsburgh up 1-0, Daniel Murphy's pinch hit home run ties the game. He's the gift that keeps giving....

Lefty Specialist Jul 17 2016 08:52 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

Boy, Murph's on another planet. Oh well.

Frayed Knot Jul 17 2016 10:43 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

All that after Murph had not started in three straight games since the break on account of a hammy he supposedly got during the AS game. Wonder if Nats fans were demanding that he be DL'd? Meanwhile, any rumors of Murph being seen at Robert Johnson's crossroads? Pirates just had a two-out double in the 16th (high off the wall in CF) and the potential winning run was thrown out at the plate. And now it looks like it's Niese's game from here on out as he comes in for the bottom 16 -- oe. just got the side 1-2-3 and it's on to the 17th and Oliver Perez in the battle of the one-time Mets!

Lefty Specialist Jul 18 2016 12:04 AM Re: Muffy / Nats

Buccos won in the 18th, 2-1.

Edgy MD Jul 24 2016 11:13 PM Re: Muffy / Nats

I was wondering how Daniel Murphy looked as an MVP candidate. Baseball-reference doesn't have him in the top ten in the league in WAR. Fangraphs has him at #3. Well, sixth counting pitchers, but still.