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Baseball Things I Miss

MFS62 Dec 30 2015 01:48 PM

Live (organ) music at the ballpark Morgana More players on the bench than there are in the bullpen Max Patkin Regularly scheduled doubleheaders Please add those you remember. Later

Ceetar Dec 30 2015 01:49 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

black uniforms.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 01:55 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Lindsey Nelson's sports jackets Complete games Harry M. Stevens selling Pabst Blue Ribbon from Budweiser taps

cooby classic Dec 30 2015 02:03 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Watching games on regular cable, for free

Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2015 02:04 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

I also miss complete games. And black uniforms, too, but in the way that you'd miss a sinus infection. I'd add that I miss the days when the "closer" role would be shared by two pitchers, a righty and a lefty, like McGraw and Frisella or Orosco and McDowell.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 02:08 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

This Week in Baseball (Mel Allen)

dgwphotography Dec 30 2015 02:11 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

I miss Shea, Kiners Korner, and "Fasten your seatbelts"

dgwphotography Dec 30 2015 02:12 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

d'Kong76 wrote: This Week in Baseball (Mel Allen) TWiB Notes...

Nymr83 Dec 30 2015 02:14 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I also miss complete games. And black uniforms, too, but in the way that you'd miss a sinus infection. I'd add that I miss the days when the "closer" role would be shared by two pitchers, a righty and a lefty, like McGraw and Frisella or Orosco and McDowell. I hate the Mets' black uniforms. I also hate the closer role.

MFS62 Dec 30 2015 03:12 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Nymr83 wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I also miss complete games. And black uniforms, too, but in the way that you'd miss a sinus infection. I'd add that I miss the days when the "closer" role would be shared by two pitchers, a righty and a lefty, like McGraw and Frisella or Orosco and McDowell. I hate the Mets' black uniforms. I also hate the closer role. Maybe that stuff should be a separate thread, Later

Fman99 Dec 30 2015 03:58 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Relievers routinely pitching 2-3 innings at a shot. The hit and run play.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 04:02 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Ralph Kiner reminiscing Lord Charles

Edgy MD Dec 30 2015 04:02 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Widespread knowledge of the science of bunting. The shift being used sparingly, only against laughably one-dimensional pull-hackers.

A Boy Named Seo Dec 30 2015 04:17 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Ceetar wrote: black uniforms. Oh, Ceetar. I miss when pepper games were so seedy that they needed to be banned.

Ceetar Dec 30 2015 04:33 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Baseball is in perhaps it's greatest state ever and most of what's gone away I don't want back. How about the team pennants on the walls/flags above the stadium.

Frayed Knot Dec 30 2015 04:42 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

I miss the assumed attitude that the ball is live unless stated otherwise instead of the other way around. Two plays from last year’s post-season point out how this thinking has morphed. One was Murphy’s SB of 3rd base on the walk. It was a rare heads-up play by Murph to his credit but the real fault was with the Dodger IF (J. Turner in particular) who, after ball four, were just casually strolling, heads down, back to their positions from the shift they were in as if nothing need concern them until the next batter dug into the box. The other was when Russell Martin’s throw back to his pitcher deflected off the bat and allowed the runner to come in from 3rd with what could have been a series-clinching run (until Texas’s defense royally fucked up the next half inning). The big thing about that play was that even the HP ump’s first reaction was to declare a dead ball and send the runner back, as if even he also was conditioned to think that once one pitch is made everyone is required to freeze in place until the next one is delivered. Only after a lengthy confab did the men in blue realize that what had just happened was perfectly legal because it was nothing more than part of ongoing play. Those two plays, particularly coming as they did during the post-season rather than during some sleepy July road trip, show how conditioned the sport has become to acting as if it consists of a disconnected series of events rather than as the continuous action game it was mostly designed to be. Baseball needs to take a cue from futbol more so than from football.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 04:43 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Bobby Murphy telling us they'll be right back with the happy recap

Centerfield Dec 30 2015 04:54 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

d'Kong76 wrote: Bobby Murphy telling us they'll be right back with the happy recap Yup. Miss Murph and Kiner. I miss the McCarver I grew up with, not the douchebag on Fox that showed up later. I don't know that I can say I miss them, since I have very little memory of them, but I wish they would bring back bullpen cars. I think it's funny what it says about the attitude toward pitchers. "Can he pitch multiple innings, multiple days? Of course. Why not?" "Can he run in from the bullpen? Hell no! Get that man a ride!" I miss afternoon games being the norm on Saturday.

Centerfield Dec 30 2015 04:54 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Oh, and I miss what baseball cards used to be before everyone blew up that industry.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 04:55 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

When an all-star exhibition game didn't decide world series home advantage

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 04:56 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

The Mayor's Trophy Game (and no inter-league play)

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 04:56 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Old Timer's Day

Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2015 04:57 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Speaking of afternoon games, I'd like to see World Series games on Saturday and Sunday played during the day. If I remember correctly, the last time that happened was a 4 p.m. start for a Saturday game in 1987.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 04:57 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Beat writers and columnists not having Twitter

cooby classic Dec 30 2015 05:47 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Richie Ashburn on the radio

MFS62 Dec 30 2015 05:48 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Happy Felton's Knot Hole Gang. Later

themetfairy Dec 30 2015 06:22 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Richie Ashburn on the radio And Harry Kalas on the TV.

dgwphotography Dec 30 2015 06:26 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

No interleague play. It made the All-Star game special all by itself.

MFS62 Dec 30 2015 06:30 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

When you said a team was "strong up the middle" defense was the first thing you considered. Later

bmfc1 Dec 30 2015 06:41 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Playing your divisional opponents 18 times. Getting the west coast trips over in 2 weeks (SD-LA-SF).

Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2015 06:42 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

The way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the hit parade. When girls were girls and men were men. Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again! When we didn't need no welfare state. When our old LaSalle ran great.

seawolf17 Dec 30 2015 06:44 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

49-cent "cello" packs and dollar "rack" packs of Topps cards.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 06:48 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Catcher could stand wherever he wanted after the ball was put in play

Edgy MD Dec 30 2015 06:51 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Pitcher warmup circles, cut into the foul ground behind home plate and near the dugouts. Actual foul ground behind home plate and near the dugouts. God bless Oakland Alameda County Coliseum or whatever it's called now.

themetfairy Dec 30 2015 07:05 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Seeing people in the stands all dressed up in suits and ties and fancy dresses.

themetfairy Dec 30 2015 07:05 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Mrs. Payson

dgwphotography Dec 30 2015 07:22 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

seawolf17 wrote: 49-cent "cello" packs and dollar "rack" packs of Topps cards. 49 cents? They were a quarter in my day, you whipper-snapper!

dgwphotography Dec 30 2015 07:27 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

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dgwphotography Dec 30 2015 07:35 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 30 2015 07:43 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Centerfield wrote: I don't know that I can say I miss them, since I have very little memory of them, but I wish they would bring back bullpen cars. I think it's funny what it says about the attitude toward pitchers. "Can he pitch multiple innings, multiple days? Of course. Why not?" "Can he run in from the bullpen? Hell no! Get that man a ride!" Not jumping on the bullpen car thing is a ridiculously-obvious missed opportunity for management. Easy in-game goofiness to engage the kinder, a readymade sponsorship slot, a chance to feature an enterprising local firm that would be willing to engineer, say, a green bullpen hovercraft (so as to avoid grass damage), opportunity for a driving-related Met theme song. IT'S RIGHT THERE. I miss Shea knishes. As much as I like the new food/beer options, I also miss nothing but crap (save Mama's and the knishes) at the games, because it means much less business for the awesome torta dude and his ilk on Roosevelt. I miss actual cheap seats.

Ceetar Dec 30 2015 07:48 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

you can still get knishes usually. they're the same 'eh' as at Shea. never had Mamas. even at Shea seemed the most boring option.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 30 2015 07:56 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 30 2015 07:58 PM

Tortas, though. Tortas as big as your HEAD, man. I miss giveaway bats. I was never around for it, but I miss three baseball teams in New York. d'Kong76 wrote: Beat writers and columnists not having Twitter I get the annoyance with the way that this has changed some of the shape and tone of reporting, but, really, this is just silly Luddite oldguygrumble. If you like the perpetual baseball coverage, this-- and other information-sharing breakthroughs-- are the reason that exists, and the fuel allowing it to continue.

themetfairy Dec 30 2015 07:58 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

dgwphotography wrote: [youtube]ElNwYTepz1E[/youtube] That was the only day that I cut classes in college.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2015 08:11 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

The turkey-and-mozzarella hero at Mama's, with the marinated mushrooms and red peppers, is the number two reason I go to Mets games.

d'Kong76 Dec 30 2015 08:19 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: but, really, this is just silly Luddite oldguygrumble. #getLWFSane I'm a lot of things, a Luddite is certainly not one of them! I'll give you silly, old and occasionally grumble(y)...

Edgy MD Dec 30 2015 08:24 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Shea knishes with a mess of mustard that you can't not all over you are a perfect example of not-particuarly-well-executed ballpark food that nonetheless tastes great because it's ballpark food. My dad taught me to wish the relief pitcher luck as the bullpen car drove past. Kinderengagement!

MFS62 Dec 30 2015 08:45 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

The Polo Grounds, Ebbets Field, Forbes Field and Sportsman's Park. Les Keiter recreating SF baseball games back to New York, and rushing to squeeze the games into his time slot. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 30 2015 08:56 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

d'Kong76 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: but, really, this is just silly Luddite oldguygrumble. #getLWFSane I'm a lot of things, a Luddite is certainly not one of them! I'll give you silly, old and occasionally grumble(y)... Fair enough. After all, you didn't post this via, you know, post. Yeah, the Mama's sandwich is a matter of simplicity well-executed producing nicely complicated flavor. Little bit of acid from the peppers, thin-sliced mootsadell, marinated-but-not-too-punchy 'shroom, and a little bit of cured meat to round things out.

Edgy MD Dec 30 2015 09:38 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

d'Kong76 wrote: Lindsey Nelson's sports jackets

batmagadanleadoff Dec 30 2015 10:02 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Ceetar wrote: black uniforms. It figures.

Ashie62 Dec 30 2015 10:46 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Saturday NBC game of the week when we had color TV long ago.

Edgy MD Jan 02 2016 03:52 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Licensing and marketing mostly handled by the team, rather than MLB, making it clear that teams wanted to beat each other from the brand on down. Relatedly, I miss different teams having philosophies and approaches that distinguished them from each other, on and off the field.

Lefty Specialist Jan 02 2016 04:15 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

World Series games [u:i3lhwhie]not[/u:i3lhwhie] done by Fox.

SteveJRogers Jan 02 2016 04:51 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Speaking of afternoon games, I'd like to see World Series games on Saturday and Sunday played during the day. If I remember correctly, the last time that happened was a 4 p.m. start for a Saturday game in 1987. IIRC, the game was played in the Metrodome! SMH.

MFS62 Jan 02 2016 06:55 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Karl "The Sign Man" Ehrhardt. "No Pepper" signs Later

batmagadanleadoff Jan 02 2016 10:11 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Edgy MD wrote: Licensing and marketing mostly handled by the team, rather than MLB, making it clear that teams wanted to beat each other from the brand on down. Good one. I guess MLB can't trust one of its renegade owners to go and fuck up the brand. They can start with post-season tickets and programs. At least a team's still allowed to print its own regular season programs and yearbooks. Not that the Mets yearbooks are great shakes. I swear that the last two I bought, I did so out of habit and one of those, I still haven't even bothered to look at. Really. Still, they probably weight four or fives times what a 70's yearbook weighs and aren't remotely as interesting or engaging. So put me down for another one. Mets yearbooks like they were in the 60's and 70's. And Willard Mullin. And Bruce Stark. Whatever happened to sports cartoonists?

themetfairy Jan 02 2016 10:23 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

I miss the teams controlling their own websites instead of relying upon the cookie cutter MLB template.

Lefty Specialist Jan 02 2016 11:24 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

T-shirts that said straightforward things like 'National League Champs' instead of stupid things like 'The Pennant Will Rise'....(as Jason deGrom is wearing)

Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 03 2016 02:18 AM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

seawolf17 wrote: 49-cent "cello" packs and dollar "rack" packs of Topps cards. Dating myself here, but I remember when the cello backs were a quarter and the rack packs were 50 cents. Back in 1974, my friend's mom was horrified that we one day each spent $1 on baseball cards. And we were in awe at what we thought was a massive pile of cards we had accumulated -- and traded doubles the rest of the afternoon.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 03 2016 03:42 AM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

1974 Rack packs were 39 cents. [fimg=444:n6gosvcg]http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2013images/Item_25272_1.jpg[/fimg:n6gosvcg] In 1974. Follow the link to the photo above and you'll discover that this lot of three unopened '74 rack packs sold at auction for $948.00. It couldn't have been the Ron Hodges card driving up the price.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 03 2016 03:58 AM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

batmagadanleadoff wrote: 1974 Rack packs were 39 cents. [fimg=444]http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2013images/Item_25272_1.jpg[/fimg] In 1974. Follow the link to the photo above and you'll discover that this lot of three unopened '74 rack packs sold at auction for $948.00. It couldn't have been the Ron Hodges card driving up the price. That is AWESOME!!!!! The year I finally started buying cards with my own money. I love that set! And today, a rack pack in my local stores costs $4.99 with two packets instead of three, and I'm sure there aren't as many cards.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 03 2016 04:16 AM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

I remember Gene Hiser the Cub (see rack pack) from around the '73 or '74 season. I remember reading an article, probably in TSN, touting his eyesight. He was supposed to have just about the best eyesight in all of baseball. I guess this meant that he could see the pitch real well as he swung and missed it. Let's just say that his MLB career didn't pan out He accumulated 263 AB's spread out over five seasons, all with the Cubs, and hit just one HR. It was against the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 03 2016 01:41 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Not that the Mets yearbooks are great shakes. I swear that the last two I bought, I did so out of habit and one of those, I still haven't even bothered to look at. Really. Still, they probably weight four or fives times what a 70's yearbook weighs and aren't remotely as interesting or engaging. That's where I'm at too. I've been buying these big fat yearbooks out of habit, and then shelving them with barely a glance. I had figured that I'd appreciate them in the future even if I don't appreciate them in the present. But it finally occurred to me that I'm not likely ever to feel much nostalgia for any current or future Mets teams, so my last yearbook was the one from 2014. batmagadanleadoff wrote: Whatever happened to sports cartoonists? If you're talking about the Bill Gallo type, who would have a regular feature inside the pages of the newspaper, I'm not aware of any but I'd be surprised if the breed had gone completely extinct. There is still Ed Murawinsky, whose work often appears on the back page of the Daily News, including that cover that you post whenever the Mets play in Philadelphia.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 03 2016 06:04 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Murawinsky was fired back in September along with Madden et al.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 03 2016 06:23 PM Re: Baseball Things I Miss

Really? I totally missed that. (David Hinckley, by the way, has resurfaced at The Huffington Post. His TV columns were one of the best things in the News in recent years.)