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The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009, 198

batmagadanleadoff Jan 04 2016 01:35 AM

Wilpons Channel Inner Barnum The Stoop By Mark C. Healey “There is a sucker born every minute! Each time the second hand sweeps to the top, like dandelions up they pop, their ears so big, their eyes so wide, and though I feed’em bonafide baloney, with no truth in it, why you can bet I’ll find some rube to buy my corn. Where's the story? ‘Cause there’s a sure-as-shooting sucker born a minute, and I’m referrin’ to the minute you was born.” – opening lyrics, “Barnum,” the musical. I once played P.T. Barnum, and got to know and understand the character pretty well. He was basically the best con artist ever, and the owners of the Mets are pretty much right behind him. Fred Wilpon was a minority partner – some 2 to 5 percent to be specific – when Nelson Doubleday’s company bought the Mets for $22 million in 1980, but as all good con artists have done, they – with cooperation from clueless media – they rewrite history. Much like Dave Kaplan in the New York Daily News on Sept. 13, 1992. “When the deep-pocketed partnership of Nelson Doubleday and Fred Wilpon bought the franchise for just under $22 million, there was light at the end of the Dark Ages. Scouts were hired. The farm system was rebuilt. Solid baseball people were put in charge. The Mets became 90-game winners in `84. A world championship would come two years later.” The deep pockets of Fred Wilpon didn’t become so deep until he met Bernie Madoff in 1985. Then, a year later, after the Mets had won a World Series, Wilpon had managed to purchase a full partnership. In 2002, Wilpon – flush with Madoff cash, and bolstered by the support of MLB Commissioner Bud Selig – bought out Doubleday. Then the con trotted out a new narrative in the Gray Lady. “The departure of Doubleday, who often had an antagonistic relationship with Wilpon, has helped redefine the way the Mets operate. General Manager Steve Phillips had needed approval from both owners before making major decisions. Now he needs only to consult with one Wilpon or the other. The chain of command, which resembled a warped family tree, is more clear-cut.” – “Wilpon Struts at Front of Caravan,” Rafael Hermoso, New York Times, (Jan. 28, 2003). It is hard not to giggle when you read that idiocy. Yes, getting rid of Doubleday made it easier to have a chain of command. Actually, it made it easier for new COO Jeff Wilpon to play GM, and he was horrible at it. But it gets better. We return to the Times: The Dominican trip was part of what Fred Wilpon called "a whole new era." He spoke recently of improvements in lighting, graphics and signs at Shea Stadium. "That's all part of being a world-class organization," he said. "When you go to Disneyland or Disney World, you don't come back and say, `Well, the events were great and the rides were great, but we didn't have a great time,' do you?" That was just 13 years ago, before the Madoff scandal blew wide open. According to Forbes.com, the Wilpon and Katz empire lost $500 million when the Madoff Ponzi scheme collapsed. Of course they denied that amount for months and eviscerated anyone who suggested otherwise. They also told fans – as they were taking out two loans that totaled over $800 million – the Mets operations wouldn’t be affected. Well, the Mets were very fortunate in 2015, winning the NL pennant despite not spending any real money to do so. But have they bolstered their pennant winning team to make a run at the 2016 title? Not so far. As our colleague Howard Megdal wrote this week on Vocativ.com, the Wilpons are running the Mets like a Ponzi scheme. Ever since [Madoff], the Mets have managed to get by annually by diverting revenue from their baseball and television operation into the financing of debt. Prior to the refinancing of the past two years, the annual interest on these two loans plus debt balloon payments of more than $43 million have exceeded team payroll itself. The refinancing of the two loans has extended their due dates out five years, so this arrangement is set to continue for a long time to come. And the debt balloon payments run until December 2045, when currently youthful pitching ace Steven Matz will be 54 years old.” In 2013, Wilpon admitted to reporters that payroll had shrunk as ownership paid down debt. “That’s what made us tight,” Wilpon, 76, said. “We were still getting revenues, lots of revenues, but those revenues were going to pay off debt. That’s done.” Apparently, the 40-60 million the Mets reportedly made during their postseason run has been used to do the same, as popular sluggers Yoenis Cespedes and homegrown Daniel Murphy will, likely be playing elsewhere in 2016. But a con can only succeed if there are marks willing to go along with the bamboozle in the first place. The family is in great shape,” Wilpon said in 2013. “We had to stay very tight on everything that was happening. So who would know? Real estate has gone zimbo, OK? We have many, many, many apartment buildings around the country. There is no building, so they are all rented. SNY has done spectacularly. The stock market is up. So we benefitted from all those things.” So, as the Mets fail to build an offense to support their wonderful pitching staff, where do you stand? http://www.rockawave.com/news/2015-12-2 ... arnum.html

Nymr83 Jan 04 2016 02:10 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

We really need to have a discussion at some point on this board about fair use, and really just etiquette when it comes to posting articles in their entirety. The writer deserves his click, can't you excerpt and link? or even comment on what you are posting?

d'Kong76 Jan 04 2016 02:27 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

I did that in the blogger thread this morning. A paragraph or two and then a link to the rest is probably a good way to go in 2016.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 04 2016 02:50 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Nymr83 wrote: We really need to have a discussion at some point on this board about fair use, and really just etiquette when it comes to posting articles in their entirety. The writer deserves his click, can't you excerpt and link? or even comment on what you are posting? Go and click on that link ten times and then we'll be all even. Great. A fucking morals lesson from the guy that thinks it isn't anybody's business what Jeff Wilpon did to Leigh Castergine.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 04 2016 02:54 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Nymr83 wrote: [C]an't you ... even comment on what you are posting? Oh, you want my commentary, too? OK. Fred Wilpon's a cock-sucking scumbag. Now it's your turn to defend the owners and tell me that I lost my mind because Howie Megdal.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 04 2016 03:39 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Maybe we should have all posts start in the Red Light Forum for a while.

d'Kong76 Jan 04 2016 03:58 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

We need some covers to vote on in the morning! [youtube:9l4ryck5]_KClpLzFftU[/youtube:9l4ryck5]

batmagadanleadoff Jan 04 2016 04:05 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

New York Mets: A Cry For Reformation Of The Wilpons By Aniello Piro - 01/01/2016 excerpts: (read most of it at this link here): http://elitesportsny.com/2016/01/01/new ... n-wilpons/ [fimg=222]http://previews.123rf.com/images/stefaninahill/stefaninahill1202/stefaninahill120200046/12475202-Arrow-Pointing-Up-Stock-Vector-arrow-arrows.jpg[/fimg] click to link. EXCERPTS: The Wilpon family is in no financial position to be allowed to own and run a professional sports franchise let alone one in New York.... the Mets owners will be paying off debt until the year 2045.... the fans were lied to.... Lies, lies and more lies have surrounded the team for the better part of the decade.... The Wilpons are a disgrace to sports.... Ownership needs to do their part.... Ownership and lack of resources and shaved apes have been the talk in Mets baseball for the past eight years, and it needs to stop now.

Nymr83 Jan 04 2016 04:36 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Nymr83 wrote: We really need to have a discussion at some point on this board about fair use, and really just etiquette when it comes to posting articles in their entirety. The writer deserves his click, can't you excerpt and link? or even comment on what you are posting? Go and click on that link ten times and then we'll be all even. Great. A fucking morals lesson from the guy that thinks it isn't anybody's business what Jeff Wilpon did to Leigh Castergine. Seriously batfucker, this is really about the forum, or any forum, being a better place and a better read when the posters are posting their opinions insteas of posting a giant block of text from someone else's without even saying anything about it. What did i say anything about Castergine and what does your post have to do with her?

Centerfield Jan 04 2016 02:27 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Is there a rationale behind the years listed in the thread title? Was the last year cut off?

Ceetar Jan 04 2016 02:54 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Nymr83 wrote: We really need to have a discussion at some point on this board about fair use, and really just etiquette when it comes to posting articles in their entirety. The writer deserves his click, can't you excerpt and link? or even comment on what you are posting? as long as we full post stuff (like Chass, or Heyman's HoF column) that we're posting for hate-read reasons. I'm not going to give those guys extra clicks anyway. Also news stuff. Don't make me click away to read Rubin reposting a press release even if it does include his trolling comments. Of course, the headline/link is usually all you need on those anyway.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 04 2016 03:09 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Centerfield wrote: Is there a rationale behind the years listed in the thread title? Was the last year cut off? I was trying to look up what kind of season the Mets had in 198 A.D., but I came up empty.

Ceetar Jan 04 2016 03:12 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Centerfield wrote: Is there a rationale behind the years listed in the thread title? Was the last year cut off? I was trying to look up what kind of season the Mets had in 198 A.D., but I came up empty. Federico Wilponi invested in the wrong Roman empire of the 5 and spend decades in debt as a result.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 04 2016 03:27 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Nymr83 wrote: We really need to have a discussion at some point on this board about fair use, and really just etiquette when it comes to posting articles in their entirety. The writer deserves his click, can't you excerpt and link? or even comment on what you are posting? I recall the last time I did the right thing. I posted a link along with my comments, and the article subsequently changed, so my comments made no sense and it looked like I didn't know what I was talking about. Probably the proper thing to do is excerpt the part on which you're commenting, and include the link if anyone is interested in the full article. I know I've done that sometimes, but I also know that I often don't do that. I also agree that hate-pasting long articles without comment adds little value to the forum.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 04 2016 04:02 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Centerfield wrote: Was the last year cut off? Yeah. Purposely. The premise is that but not for the character limitations, who knows how many years I might've listed in the title. Because was there ever a year when FW the Met owner didn't deserve to be told to go and fuck himself? Nymr83 wrote: ... this is really about the forum, or any forum, being a better place and a better read when the posters are posting their opinions insteas of posting a giant block of text from someone else's without even saying anything about it..... So then it's not about fair use. It's about me posting articles without adding comments. Well there's really not much I can say about the owners that I haven't said already. At least nothing newly inspired from that particular piece. Besides, you seem pretty set in your ways as a Wilpon defender, or at least as a Wilpon apologist. I don't think I could move your needle in the other direction on this issue. And if I did, you'd never ever give me the satisfaction of admitting it anyways. Benjamin Grimm wrote: I also agree that hate-pasting long articles without comment adds little value to the forum. There's value in posting those pieces. They measure the pulse, the zeitgeist of Metsdom beyond this tiny fish bowl. So when I'm carpet-bombed to death here for writing negative Wilpon posts, I can demonstrate, and take take solace in the fact that major media's thoughts on this matter are more aligned with mine than would appear from reading the responses here. And it preserves the articles for posterity and historical purposes should anyone want to re-read those pieces in the future when the original link might no longer work. Not that searching old posts here works very well anyways, but that's another issue. And what's hate-pasting? And is there such a thing as love-pasting? And does your opinion apply just the same to love-pasting, assuming there's even such a thing as love-pasting? And if so, doesn't that make your use of the word "hate" superfluous?

d'Kong76 Jan 04 2016 04:31 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Nymr83 wrote: Seriously batfucker [fimg=75]https://c808505.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/5450_ae66febc416baf20b84da09759345fc90c60fb72_original_x_323_1328069405.jpg[/fimg]?? Ceetar wrote: Federico Wilponi invested in the wrong Roman empire of the 5 and spend decades in debt as a result. Link?

batmagadanleadoff Jan 04 2016 04:46 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Post-pennant economics for the 2016 Mets By Howard Megdal 2:26 p.m. | Dec. 29, 2015 The email landed with a thud in in boxes all around the industry on Nov. 19: “NEW YORK METS NAMED 2015 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL CLUB RETAILER OF THE YEAR.” The email congratulated the Mets in specific terms on what everyone in the New York area already knew in general: the unexpected run by the Mets from the end of July through October, from a .500 team to a division winner and on into the 2015 World Series, had captivated the city and its fans in a way that not only provided months of pleasure to a tortured fan base, but caused those fans to transfer lots of wealth to the team. As the press release put it, “Reaching the World Series for the first time in 15 years helped lead the Mets retail team to equally strengthened performance on their sales floors at Citi Field. Among the highlights of their 2015 season were the highest single-game sales day in Citi Field’s history (Game Three of the World Series), record revenue of game-used memorabilia and standout retail marketing campaigns. The Mets authentication program, Amazin’ Memorabilia, has grown into one of the top programs in MLB, while Citi Field shops presented by New Era, Majestic, Nike and ’47 Brand, among others, saw increased metrics across the board.” Really inspirational stuff, combined with the estimated $45-60 million in total revenue from the postseason berth alone, and the regular season bump in attendance of 19.6 percent — well, it all served as a welcome end to an era of Mets business that followed a boom-bust cycle of promises to spend more, followed by various reasons why it didn’t happen. This, you’d think, would be different, since both owner Fred Wilpon, in the last public availability he held way back in February 2013, and general manager Sandy Alderson periodically ever since have linked increased attendance with increased spending. It put the onus of a quality product on the customer, which is ludicrous, but now that it happened, surely the Mets would follow through, right? It does not appear so. And incredibly, the result is a hangover effect for the team not of celebration for its first postseason berth since 2006, but from fans who have largely tuned out of the hot stove reporting going on already, resigned to the fact that anyone the Mets add will be at the margins. The reporters covering the team, to their credit, aren’t falsely fanning the flames of offseason fan passion. The days when the Daily News breathlessly reported the Mets were interested in spending $100 million on Shin-Soo Choo, or $125 million on payroll if only “the right players” had been available, seem to be in the very distant past. “The idea that #Mets will significantly raise payroll seems even more unreasonable in light of Rubin’s report that they’ll non-tender Tejada,” read MLB.com Mets reporter Anthony DiComo’s tweet on Nov. 18, pointing out that if the Mets decide to non-tender Ruben Tejada, a valuable middle infielder set to make approximately $3 million next season, it speaks to a sort of penny-pinching that would seem to foreclose the possibility of going after the sorts of free agents who would be worthy supplments to the Mets’ elite starting pitching. (The Mets chose to tender a contract to Tejada, who said it was likely because they didn’t believe they could sign a viable middle infielder to replace him. Mets assistant general manager John Ricco said on MLB Network December 7 that “you could do worse” than Tejada/Flores at SS.) And there was this: “As for Murphy, #Mets won’t ignore him as a FA, but they value Zobrist’s OF capability a bunch. Ultimately, good bet they get outbid on both.” That would be playoff hero Daniel Murphy and free agent Ben Zobrist, both of whom are versatile offensive players who can be used at several positions. But these Mets, remember, were last in the National League in runs scored on July 31. So merely keeping Murphy, or adding Zobrist in lieu of Murphy, doesn’t address the gap they need to fill with Yoenis Cespedes’ likely departure, not to mention production in case the degenerative back condition of David Wright and the series of injuries that befall Travis d’Arnaud keep them both from providing additional offensive value that turned the August-September Mets into a powerhouse. The backup plan for Wright has been Murphy for years. The backup for d’Arnaud is the promising catcher Kevin Plawecki, but Plawecki put up an OPS+ of just 62 last season, a far cry from d’Arnaud’s 128. So what is the plan? “From what I’ve heard, the Mets are very serious about having Dilson Herrera as the second baseman,” ESPN Mets beat reporter Adam Rubin tweeted on Nov. 16. “Now, they still need a backup.” Herrera is a talented but raw hitter whose .211 average in 103 MLB at-bats last year speaks to the great unknown of his abilities at this point. Tejada would be the decent backup for him, if only they kept him around, and filled the starting shortstop hole capably. But this represents precisely the way the Mets have gone about constructing a baseball team since the very moment Bernie Madoff went bust, and the ability to use Madoff as a team slush fund turned into a need to borrow mightily against the team and SNY, the sports network owned by Wilpon and his partners, and finance that debt ever since. What it all seems to mean is that if even an enormous, unexpected windfall comes the team’s way, it doesn’t change the way the owners go about running it. They will use their money to service their debt, and to make their $30 million payments to the trustee for the Bernie Madoff victims in each of the next two years, and to invest in real estate. As far as on-the-field personnel goes, they will most likely keep their costs down, ride their insanely gifted young pitchers, and hope for another miracle. http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/c ... 2016-mets#

seawolf17 Jan 04 2016 04:59 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

d'Kong76 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Federico Wilponi invested in the wrong Roman empire of the 5 and spend decades in debt as a result. Link? Don't tell me you don't remember all of Ovardo Megdalino's columns thrashing the Wilponis.

Centerfield Jan 04 2016 05:04 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Centerfield wrote: Is there a rationale behind the years listed in the thread title? Was the last year cut off? I was trying to look up what kind of season the Mets had in 198 A.D., but I came up empty. Did you check UMDB? That guy keeps track of everything.

d'Kong76 Jan 04 2016 05:09 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

seawolf17 wrote: Don't tell me you don't remember all of Ovardo Megdalino's columns thrashing the Wilponis. But of course!

Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 04 2016 05:49 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Ceetar wrote: Nymr83 wrote: We really need to have a discussion at some point on this board about fair use, and really just etiquette when it comes to posting articles in their entirety. The writer deserves his click, can't you excerpt and link? or even comment on what you are posting? as long as we full post stuff (like Chass, or Heyman's HoF column) that we're posting for hate-read reasons. I'm not going to give those guys extra clicks anyway. Also news stuff. Don't make me click away to read Rubin reposting a press release even if it does include his trolling comments. Of course, the headline/link is usually all you need on those anyway. It's actually a copyright violation. You need permission to reprint something in full. One of the lawyers on the board can better explain it. But when I was in the media and people would cut and paste stories in full on websites or use them in newsletters and such, the legal folks would reach out to them. Now, for a story posted on a blog, it's likely not a big deal. But for something from one of the mainstream news sites, it could be a problem -- if someone was looking at forums. Since the Pool isn't making money from reprinting stories, it's likely not going to kick up a fuss. But you can be certain that there are Google alerts set up with the intention of catching such things. It's considered acceptable to pull a couple paragraphs out and link to the rest.

Ceetar Jan 04 2016 06:00 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

eh, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure 'provocative discussion' is fair use, particularly in a non-commercial use.

Vic Sage Jan 04 2016 06:59 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

fair use has criteria. Reprinting the whole article doesn't fall within it.

Ceetar Jan 04 2016 07:08 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Vic Sage wrote: fair use has criteria. Reprinting the whole article doesn't fall within it. that's not true actually. From a strictly legal standpoint I think anyone would have a hard time proving there has been a copyright violation here. Not that anyone would take the time or effort to sue. Even taking the time an effort to send a notice seems unlikely.

Vic Sage Jan 04 2016 07:15 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009, Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 04 2016 07:27 PM

that's not true actually. That IS true, actually, and i would have absolutely no problem proving a copyright violation here. In fact, it's one of the things i do for a living. As to the unlikelihood of anybody wanting to prosecute, or even issue a take down notice, yes, i agree. It's extremely unlikely. But that's not really the point, is it?

d'Kong76 Jan 04 2016 07:18 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

There's a discussion thread. Striving to do what's right in this case isn't because we can or can't or if there's damages or no damages. It's just to do what's right.

dgwphotography Jan 04 2016 08:34 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Vic Sage wrote: that's not true actually. That IS true, actually, and i would have absolutely no problem proving a copyright violation here. In fact, it's one of the things i do for a living. As to the unlikelihood of anybody wanting to prosecute, or even issue a take down notice, yes, i agree. It's extremely unlikely. But that's not really the point, is it? Anyone who creates content cares about their copyright, and it is up to us to respect that copyright. ceetar wrote: I'm not going to give those guys extra clicks anyway. That's not for you to decide. Whether you agree or don't agree with what they stand for doesn't change the fact that they, or the entity the work for, owns the copyright to their work. As such, they are entitled to monetize their content as they see fit. If you don't want to click on their links that's your prerogative, but out and out stealing their content is not the way to go about it.

Centerfield Jan 04 2016 08:53 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Back to the original article, why does Mark Healey sound so familiar? Was he a poster here at one time?

Benjamin Grimm Jan 04 2016 08:55 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

I think he was.

themetfairy Jan 04 2016 08:58 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Centerfield wrote: Back to the original article, why does Mark Healey sound so familiar? Was he a poster here at one time? Yes, according to the Membership list.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 04 2016 09:17 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Centerfield wrote: Back to the original article, why does Mark Healey sound so familiar? Was he a poster here at one time? Prior to being here he was one of the early personalities of the Internet Fan Metsosphere, his claim to fame was early intelligence on the front-office shenanigans leading to the Kazmir-Zambrano trade which he got via covering the Cyclones for a local rag. I mixed it up with his henchmen a few times over the years but have since met the guy and he's swell.

Centerfield Jan 04 2016 09:32 PM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

That's pretty cool. We should reach out and invite him back. Kudos to anyone who figures out how to make a living writing about the Mets. All of us except Greg pretty much do it for free.

Nymr83 Jan 05 2016 01:38 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

d'Kong76 wrote: Nymr83 wrote: Seriously batfucker [fimg=75]https://c808505.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/5450_ae66febc416baf20b84da09759345fc90c60fb72_original_x_323_1328069405.jpg[/fimg]?? i love that lightbulb. i'm guessing the powers that be were out to lunch or merely missed my one hostile word in a sea of actual discussion

Nymr83 Jan 05 2016 01:40 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Vic Sage wrote: that's not true actually. That IS true, actually, and i would have absolutely no problem proving a copyright violation here. In fact, it's one of the things i do for a living. As to the unlikelihood of anybody wanting to prosecute, or even issue a take down notice, yes, i agree. It's extremely unlikely. But that's not really the point, is it? agreed 100% in both cases based on the 1 semester of Copyright that I half-slept through.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2016 01:44 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

Nymr83 wrote: Nymr83 wrote: Seriously batfucker [fimg=75]https://c808505.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/5450_ae66febc416baf20b84da09759345fc90c60fb72_original_x_323_1328069405.jpg[/fimg]?? i love that lightbulb. i'm guessing the powers that be were out to lunch or merely missed my one hostile word in a sea of actual discussion So if I posted a fair use excerpt from a Megdal piece and accompanied it with my own personal commentary and observations, it'd then be OK if I ended that post by telling you to go fuck yourself?

Nymr83 Jan 05 2016 02:51 AM Re: The Fuck You Fred Wilpon Thread - 2016, 2017, 2015 2009,

sorry, that was in response to "Great. A fucking morals lesson from the guy that thinks it isn't anybody's business what Jeff Wilpon did to Leigh Castergine." since Castergine had nothing to do with anything there and you decided to throw up strawmen about defending everything non-baseball wilpon does when all i've ever talked about is baseball