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Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff Jan 06 2016 12:57 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jan 06 2016 11:52 PM

Ever wonder what Butterball Field looked like before the Man from Topps started showing up and snapping up everything in sight with his fucking camera and his fucking copyrights? Before the Yankees trained there? Before it was even called Butterball Field or Miller Huggins Field or Crescent Lake Field? You'd have to go back to before even Ol' Case was born. Back to when Ol' Case wasn't even New Case. When all photographs and drawings and artworks were created so long ago that, by now, they're all in the public domain. That's me on a baseball card that you can use and post and link to freely without any fear that the FBI might show up and shut you down. It's from the 19th century. From before there was even an income tax. I'm from the 19th century, too. So do anything you want to that picture. Put Marilyn Monroe's tits on him. Put her tits on his mustache. Call it pop art. Whatever makes you happy. But don't put Marilyn's face on him. Her image is copyrighted. Go with Theda Bara instead. She's really old. And dead. And copyright free. So who the fuck am I? [fimg=303:17mfsc11]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1598/24127191061_f0aa876c9e_o.jpg[/fimg:17mfsc11]

batmagadanleadoff Jan 06 2016 01:23 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

We believe that we've whited out enough of this otherwise copyrighted photograph to take it out of the copyright protection laws. It's fair use now. Plus we've left the Topps watermark in there for attribution, not that attribution has anything to do with fair use but just to show everybody what good decent folks we are here at the CPF. So who am I with the Mets ties and, as you can see from the fair use photograph below, Expos ties as well?

d'Kong76 Jan 06 2016 05:24 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Mike Fitzgerald with a pitchers glove?

dgwphotography Jan 06 2016 06:18 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Kris Kringle? Sinterklaas? Pere Noel? Babbo Natale? Pelznickel? Topo Gigio?

Zvon Jan 06 2016 07:26 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

OOO, a new Butterball thread. I was going to add the loss of the previous thread to "Things I Miss In Baseball". Those eyes belong to Galen Cisco.

Zvon Jan 06 2016 07:32 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ever wonder what Butterball Field looked like before the Man from Topps started showing up and snapping up everything in sight with his fucking camera and his fucking copyrights? Before the Yankees trained there? Before it was even called Butterball Field or Miller Huggins Field or Crescent Lake field? You'd have to go back to before even Ol' Case was born. Back to when Ol' Case wasn't even New Case. When all photographs and drawings and artworks were created so long ago that, by now, they're all in the public domain. That's me on a baseball card that you can use and post and link to freely without any fear that the FBI might show up and shut you down. It's from the 19th century. From before there was even an income tax I'm from the 19th century, too. So do anything you want to that picture. Put Marilyn Monroe's tits on him. Put her tits on his mustache. Call it pop art. Whatever makes you happy. But don't put Marilyn's face on him. Her image is copyrighted. Go with Theda Bara instead. She's really old. And copyright free. So who the fuck am I? [fimg=303]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1598/24127191061_f0aa876c9e_o.jpg[/fimg] I'd believe that was Butterball if a crock was coming out of the lake. Interesting article about copyrights. [url]http://mayersononanimation.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-corruption-of-copyright.html

batmagadanleadoff Jan 06 2016 10:00 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

After I read your post, I thought I was gonna find a croc added to the public domain baseball card.

Zvon Jan 06 2016 11:30 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff wrote: After I read your post, I thought I was gonna find a croc added to the public domain baseball card. I plan on putting the guy right on the Sadecki Spot. Is that uni too modern an Expo one to be Cisco?

Zvon Jan 07 2016 12:42 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

I believe that actually is you. [fimg=400:37qgzi2z]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RMktNaZip-I/Vo2zejEmbgI/AAAAAAAAkZo/AMs5LcYEYQc/s647-Ic42/tSS-CapBatmagadanleadoff-z16.png[/fimg:37qgzi2z] 2nd choice. Cap Anson.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 07 2016 01:21 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

[fimg=333:3vp3jeln]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1583/23924937980_1e9e258163_o.jpg[/fimg:3vp3jeln]

Zvon Jan 07 2016 07:17 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Oy. I expected a crock. Is that what that "C" stands for?

batmagadanleadoff Jan 07 2016 11:34 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

The C is for copyright. ©

Zvon Jan 07 2016 11:40 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Well duh. Can I please have permission to use your name Batmagadanleadoff? Please? Is that Cap Anson?

batmagadanleadoff Feb 02 2016 08:41 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Simon sez "jump!" [fimg=544:2yj13j81]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7339/16566442671_f2d9bd08b4_o.jpg[/fimg:2yj13j81]

batmagadanleadoff Feb 02 2016 09:19 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Simon sez "jump!" [fimg=544]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7339/16566442671_f2d9bd08b4_o.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=600]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1631/24145316734_e5caabb1f5_o.jpg[/fimg]

Zvon Feb 02 2016 09:33 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Wow. Where on earth did you find that shot? Awesome find! I'm currently colorizing this shot and it is coming out excellent. Actually what I do might have to be termed photo restoration. I'll post a peek later tonight. [fimg=400:1xweoerb]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E4ktBOko9gM/VrEeHohH7hI/AAAAAAAAk8Q/-hsTVgwnDt4/s576-Ic42/001.png[/fimg:1xweoerb]

Zvon Feb 03 2016 02:46 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Gah! I thought I'd complete this tonight. I thought I was done but I see that Agee's pinstripes need more work. Here's the finished Cleon. What card border should I make it? 1968? 1969? Could be either. Photo was taken in ST '68. The caption will be MOBILE METS (unless someone has a better one).

batmagadanleadoff Feb 03 2016 03:12 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

What happened to Cleon's glove? Did he have a catch with Herman Munster?

Zvon Feb 03 2016 04:01 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Croc bite.

Zvon Feb 04 2016 12:55 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Okay, that colorjob is done and I've made it into a 1969T bordered card. I have a similar picture of the Mets OF circa 1970 (Jones, Agee, Swoboda), and that'll be a '71. I'd like to do at least one more for the 2016 Mets outfield. Does anyone have (or seen) a photo of Conforto, Cespedes, & Granderson together? I searched pretty hard and long last night to no avail. Also, if anyone has a photo of any Mets OF of the past, where all 3 regular starters are in it (usually posed), I'll make a corresponding card for that year.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 04 2016 01:09 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

I have a shot from Spring Training March '64 that depicted what was, at the time of the photo, probably supposed to be the Mets outfield of that upcoming season -- Altman, Hickman, Thomas and Snider. Altman and Hickman held up their ends but Snider was sent to the Giants a couple of weeks after that photo was taken and Thomas was traded to the Phillies during the '64 season. Joe Christopher (not pictured) got most of the other OF innings.

Zvon Feb 04 2016 02:56 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I have a shot from Spring Training March '64 that depicted what was, at the time of the photo, probably supposed to be the Mets outfield of that upcoming season -- Altman, Hickman, Thomas and Snider. Altman and Hickman held up their ends but Snider was sent to the Giants a couple of weeks after that photo was taken and Thomas was traded to the Phillies during the '64 season. Joe Christopher (not pictured) got most of the other OF innings. It don't really matter to me if they didn't actually end up as the outfield that played. Just as long as at one point they were thought to be. I'm just trying to fill some space on the subject. I didn't think of looking further back in time. I'll check my files too and see if I have anything from 62-68. I really would like to avoid another colorization job for this one post. I can photoshop the 2016 Outfield into one image. And that's a situation where, we all hope Conforto works out and excels, but who knows until he does.

Zvon Aug 28 2016 12:26 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Look at this freakin awesome photo! From Sports Papers on twitter. Name 'em all. Should be easy. Extra points for whoever is in the background. I think one guy might be Clark Kent.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 28 2016 01:13 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Look at this freakin awesome photo! From Sports Papers on twitter. Name 'em all. Should be easy. Extra points for whoever is in the background. I think one guy might be Clark Kent. Those are the '62 Dodger-Mets: Hodges, Labine, Lavagetto, Craig, Zimmer and Neal.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 28 2016 01:16 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Look at this freakin awesome photo! From Sports Papers on twitter. Name 'em all. Should be easy. Extra points for whoever is in the background. I think one guy might be Clark Kent. Those are the '62 Dodger-Mets: Hodges, Labine, Lavagetto, Craig, Zimmer and Neal. I'll go with Frank Thomas just behind Craig's head.

Zvon Aug 28 2016 01:19 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Damn. I thought the guy next to Craig was Vinegar Bend Mizell. That's what I went w/ on that twitter quiz.

Rockin' Doc Aug 28 2016 01:24 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

I believe that's Elwood Blues in the hat and glasses over Neal's shoulder.

Zvon Aug 28 2016 01:34 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

I used a super computer to enhance the section of the dark doorway, and you can see that it's Vince Lombardi and Perry Smith (one of the murderers from In Cold Blood).

cooby Aug 29 2016 03:17 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

I wish whoever has that book checked out at the library would bring it back

batmagadanleadoff Aug 29 2016 01:59 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Zvon wrote: I used a super computer to enhance the section of the dark doorway, and you can see that it's Vince Lombardi and Perry Smith (one of the murderers from In Cold Blood). [fimg=555]http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/9103/9103-482Fr.jpg[/fimg] Same photo shoot, but with Casey. Clem and Cookie's legs are crossed the same way in both shoots. In 1962, Perry Smith is in custody.

Zvon Aug 29 2016 11:05 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Wow! Awesome shot. We have to find a clearer version of that. I have not surfed Baseball Fever in a long time.

MFS62 Aug 29 2016 11:16 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

I wonder how many of the seven catchers on the 1962 Mets were in the same photo. Obviously, they weren't all here at the same time. Later

batmagadanleadoff Sep 08 2016 06:30 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

This has to be one of the latest Butterball pics posted to these threads: [fimg=555:odyxvb6u]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8113/29437627432_e1f4425ac6_o.jpg[/fimg:odyxvb6u]

Zvon Sep 08 2016 06:43 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Wow. Excellent pic. Oh, I almost forgot. I ran into this. Taken moments apart. It was actually in my Mets 60s folder from my old PC. I don't recall finding the pic or where it came from (probly Baseball Fever or Baseball Birthdays). I've been saving Mets photos for 15 years now. This is almost worth colorizing.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 08 2016 06:47 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Zvon wrote: Wow. Excellent pic. Oh, I almost forgot. I ran into this. Taken moments apart. It was actually in my Mets 60s folder from my old PC. I don't recall finding the pic or where it came from (probly Baseball Fever or Baseball Birthdays). I've been saving Mets photos for 15 years now. This is almost worth colorizing. Awesome. I wish it was at a higher resolution. Lotsa images floating around from that photo shoot.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 08 2016 06:49 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

You could see the water fountain and the diagonal metal fence bar in the photo you posted. More details!

Zvon Sep 08 2016 06:52 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

It's called the "Walter Fountain". In caps. [fimg=800:32kn1vzd]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/P_7r-0O8zlw0CNmbIZHfC6MoVUtxn95py_6g5dNicx571lglnNQhEkHwURUarqWvvPIjDs-coiZs0b1F5p1imQKCCIYrf-0v8oWFCWzkd45A1jLg05GMtF851m5uXDqdtsQ14QqbqsnXn05WGW-VLfvoPlNmwF6sHDAG6jXNPK349Y-Ja4Q01QVVOuIuZZIWY-BkxEKFzg5jst5bcPZuYv8-FRx1hU1E_l8D9mXWoM4iLSJiQX_nbkQr7VY9tkvzCKTMiyZ_JPzKMu7zu8359zTJT-TQpSrbthW2EBcW30eW9ILosH9RUNXw7g3b_yHJm9oX3GVREHIkRYHK0LaKpU83kfJA2FW5-2KT4gaPwiyFGqkTPjjaYJ8QkvX0VvIy5C5HK-zcafQAVFeHeBTOTBvZb7-9Rn-PTvZLQ35NAOeDf0MkkfDuikP0f7UIc7CKX4DmLK6xXUDSlGE-RAx2TWNGXaY-TKm7-fIm6RlN5gGIZyR8koDZhverhJH--BTUd0NvadY_TLaaSLxvuSw2mugvPAMQxMJIEJBgmvDUtqQ6DCMrWA5ONCYSsqn5gkHofOaVgUIeW1xeARrb4KpVaYTZxvjTJu0dU2qq8OqNKEcPg8YT=w1476-h1910-no[/fimg:32kn1vzd]

batmagadanleadoff Sep 08 2016 06:53 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Zvon wrote: Wow. Excellent pic. Oh, I almost forgot. I ran into this. Taken moments apart. It was actually in my Mets 60s folder from my old PC. I don't recall finding the pic or where it came from (probly Baseball Fever or Baseball Birthdays). I've been saving Mets photos for 15 years now. This is almost worth colorizing. Awesome. I wish it was at a higher resolution. Lotsa images floating around from that photo shoot. This is my favorite of the three photos from that session. It's got Casey. It's got the most Butterball details. And it's the cleanest, least cluttered background.

Zvon Sep 08 2016 06:56 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

I tried to clean that up^ but it always comes out worse. Walter at his fountain.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 12 2016 08:54 PM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Zvon wrote: I tried to clean that up^ but it always comes out worse. Walter at his fountain. Who's "Walter"? There's one more 1962 Met who played for the Brooklyn Dodgers, only he's not pictured in the photo above or the other shots from that same shoot that appear in this thread, and for good reason. Who?

Zvon Sep 13 2016 03:04 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

"Who am I?"

batmagadanleadoff Sep 14 2016 03:53 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

batmagadanleadoff wrote: There's one more 1962 Met who played for the Brooklyn Dodgers, only he's not pictured in the photo above or the other shots from that same shoot that appear in this thread, and for good reason. Who? Joe Pignatano was a '62 Met who also played for the Brooklyn Dodgers. Pignatano is not pictured in any of these bench photos because he did not join the Mets until the Summer of '62 and therefore, was not at the Mets first Spring Training at Butterball, where these pictures were shot. Pignatano retired after the '62 season, famously hitting into a triple play in his last MLB at-bat. So he never appeared at Butterball Field as a Mets player. Thank you for playing.

Zvon Sep 14 2016 04:34 AM Re: Butterball & Who Am I's for 2016

Gah. I should have tried harder.