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Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

d'Kong76 Jan 03 2016 06:47 PM

Jets have a game in Buffalo today that's kinda important. I hope they get there soon, they've just kinda been sitting on the tarmac.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 03 2016 08:58 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Welp

Nymr83 Jan 03 2016 09:10 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The ending we all saw coming 6 months ago. The Jets go to Buffalo and lay an egg against Rex Ryan. Fuck.

d'Kong76 Jan 03 2016 09:12 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Hard to believe they showed up so flat. I guess it's to be expected. As I've said many times, Namath sold his soul to the devil and the Jets will never be in a Super Bowl until he collects.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 04 2016 12:20 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Can't beat a Bills team that checked out of this season Terri months ago? Don't deserve a playoff slot.

Nymr83 Jan 04 2016 12:59 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

10-6 and set lots of team records, but I still feel as if they went 6-10.

MFS62 Jan 04 2016 02:52 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I have this nightmare that Coughlin will be fired and Ryan will take his place. And then lead that other team to a Super Bowl win. Later

Vic Sage Jan 04 2016 03:40 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

annoyed, but not surprised. SOJ.

Lefty Specialist Jan 05 2016 12:49 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Vic Sage wrote: annoyed, but not surprised. SOJ. This. Multiple times.

Nymr83 Jan 12 2016 07:36 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Buffalo took a big step BACKWARDS today, hiring Rob Ryan to be an assistant to brother Rex. Rob Ryan is a terrible football coach whose defenses consistently under-perform. He only keeps getting work because he is related to Rex and Buddy. I approve this move and I hope he is calling defensive plays!

d'Kong76 Feb 03 2016 02:23 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The Jets used to train in my hometown (Peekskill) back in the olden days. This picture was posted today in one of the local web-rags.... Namath wrote: Drawn to New York City’s nightlife, he describes a nocturnal desertion from the Jets summer training camp in Peekskill. “I felt I had to get out of Peekskill, a lot of nights,” he writes. “If you’ve ever spent a night in Peekskill, you know what I mean.”

Nymr83 Mar 08 2016 03:20 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Jets might not re-sign Fitzmagic!! Marshall went on instagram and posted a video of himself playing with a Jets teddy bear throwing the ball to another teddy bear. how the heck has this guy not worked out on his previous teams? might be my new favorite player. If Fitz goes the Jets might as well rebuild

Nymr83 Mar 09 2016 06:48 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Ivory to the Jaguars. Harrison won't be back and they are saying Demario Davis too. this team is going to be missing parts come training camp.

Nymr83 Mar 10 2016 01:11 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Jets sign Matt Forte to replace Ivory. Given that he is not only a "featured back" but a great pass catcher, this probably means no Bilal Powell?

Nymr83 Mar 10 2016 04:33 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Snacks signs with the Giants. ugh.

Vic Sage Mar 10 2016 03:34 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

inevitable, unfortunately. With Wilkerson, Richardson and Williams up front, they couldn't spend any more on that part of the DL. We took him off the scrap heap and got great production from him at a cheap price. Now its time for him to move on. Bye, Mr. Harrison, and thanks for all the snacks. Does Forte have anything left? He looks like a replacement for Powell as a 3rd down back, not Ivory, so we still need a back. We might still get Elliot in the draft. As for Demario Davis, after the way he played last year, his absence won't be significant. I really thought he'd develop, and he just never did. Henderson will be more than adequate replacement, and Mouldin has a chance to make a big impact. I'm sure they'll also draft some LBs, so we'll see. I don't want them over-extending themselves for FAs at that position. I'd rather see them restructure the contracts on the OL, so we can strengthen ourselves in that critical area. Oh, and a QB would be useful, dontcha think?

Ashie62 Mar 11 2016 07:06 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 wrote: Jets sign Matt Forte to replace Ivory. Given that he is not only a "featured back" but a great pass catcher, this probably means no Bilal Powell? Forte may be washed up in a way that Chris Johnson was. Lotta miles on those tires.

Lefty Specialist Mar 11 2016 08:23 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Yeah, Forte's tread is a bit thin. And now there are rumors that RGIII is talking to the Jets. Hope it's just a ploy to get Fitzpatrick to sign because, ick.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 11 2016 11:03 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Someone mentioned Kaepernick last night. Kill me now.

MFS62 Mar 12 2016 03:32 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Someone mentioned Kaepernick last night. Kill me now. Now he's saying he wants to be traded to Cleveland. If he's that nuts, I definitely don't want him on the Jets. Later

Nymr83 Mar 12 2016 05:31 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

he probably just realized Cleveland is the worst QB situation in the league and a guaranteed starting job... the Jets might be just as desperate but they'd also be the type to turn around and screw him like they did to Stanton the day after signing him by signing someone else to start over him.

Ashie62 Mar 12 2016 03:08 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Lefty Specialist wrote: Yeah, Forte's tread is a bit thin. And now there are rumors that RGIII is talking to the Jets. Hope it's just a ploy to get Fitzpatrick to sign because, ick. Nah, they have to be waiting on Manziel.

Vic Sage Mar 16 2016 07:06 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Jets replace Snacks Harrison with Pittsburgh's Steve McLendon and add some more DL depth with the Bears' Jarvis Jenkins. https://sports.yahoo.com/news/jets-sign ... --nfl.html and Demario Davis has left to play for Cleveland. plus, they've apparently re-signed WR Kenbrell Thompkins and TE Kellen Davis. Davis? yes, Davis. why? i don't know.

Nymr83 Mar 16 2016 07:29 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Seriously, that guy blows.

Ashie62 Mar 19 2016 12:13 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Per CBS Kaepernick likely to sign with SF for a guaranteed 11 million. Whatever happened to Geno Smith???

d'Kong76 Jul 27 2016 11:18 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

SNY ticker reporting Fitz and Jets have agreed to a one year guaranteed deal for $12 mil and another $3 in incentives. But if you're watching the Mets game, you know this already so never mind.

Nymr83 Jul 28 2016 02:13 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

yay Fitz is back!

Ashie62 Jul 29 2016 10:36 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The extra 3 million is for when the Jets win the Super Bowl this season.

Lefty Specialist Jul 29 2016 02:19 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

If they do, it'll be worth every penny.

Ashie62 Aug 05 2016 06:37 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Lisa gone 7 months 5 days.

Nymr83 Aug 09 2016 02:37 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

This guy might have just convinced me that Geno is better than Fitz- [url]http://www.ganggreennation.com/2016/7/28/12308608/a-bad-deal-why-mac-blew-it-big-time-even-if-you-are-a-fitz-fan

Vic Sage Aug 11 2016 09:05 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

yeah, i had seen that article and it resonated for me. I wasn't a big Fitz fan in the first place, and didn't think we needed to get into salary cap hell just to bring him back. I was ok with the 1-year deal, though, since it didn't stop us from locking up Wilkerson and won't be a drain on the cap in future years, and i have absolutely no confidence in Geno being much better, despite having better tools (and now better weapons, too).

Vic Sage Aug 11 2016 09:27 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

pre-season starts tonight... and not a minute too soon!

Nymr83 Aug 12 2016 04:07 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

a meaningless W! woohoo!

Ashie62 Aug 13 2016 08:32 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Geno Smith threw a touchdown and no one threw any fists.

MFS62 Aug 18 2016 04:04 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Local town kid signs with the Jets. http://www.newstimes.com/sports/article ... 144480.php Not sure who he can bump from the roster. They have a lot of defensive lineman. Later

Vic Sage Aug 25 2016 02:30 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Jets / Giants this weekend. I'm all a`tingle.

Lefty Specialist Aug 25 2016 03:32 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

There's an ointment for that.

Centerfield Aug 27 2016 05:12 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Anyone going tonight?

themetfairy Aug 27 2016 05:22 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

MK is going with a friend tonight.

MFS62 Aug 28 2016 12:47 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

No matter which team I root for in all of sports, losing to the team that won last night pains me more than any other loss. There are teams I root for. There are teams I root against. There are teams I dislike. There are teams I hat. But the team with which the Jets share a stadium? I hat them, their fans, their legacy and their entire organization. Don't try to bother me with facts or questions. I don't care that it was an exhibition game. I'm pissed. Later

Nymr83 Aug 28 2016 11:30 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

i'm surprised. i hate the Yankees, I don't care at all to root against the Giants unless they play the Jets in the regular season. I'd even say I mildly like them for beating Brady twice in the superbowl.

Lefty Specialist Aug 28 2016 11:47 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 wrote: i'm surprised. i hate the Yankees, I don't care at all to root against the Giants unless they play the Jets in the regular season. I'd even say I mildly like them for beating Brady twice in the superbowl. That's where I am. I'm a Jets fan but I don't hate the Giants with the white-hot intensity of the Yankmees. And yes, humiliating Brady is always a bonus.

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2016 12:07 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I don't know enough about the pre-season Giants this year to care. I DVR'd the SNY Jets Nation thing tonight, probably won't watch it until Tues though. It was a fake game! Exhibition! Pre-season!! Oh wait, you said not to bother you with facts, questions and importance of game. Never mind. Sooner

MFS62 Aug 29 2016 01:21 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

It goes back to the old AFL-NFL days. You had to be a fan of the pre-Jets Titans of New York to understand. Later

Vic Sage Aug 29 2016 02:23 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

my wife is a Giants fan, so that's toned down my Giants hate over the years. But even at its peak, my animus toward Big Blue never approached my Yankee hate. Still, watching the Jets blow it at the end is still painful, pre-season or no. And I'm surprised they let Quackenbush play; he looked as bad as i've heard he is.

HahnSolo Aug 30 2016 04:11 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

MFS62 wrote: No matter which team I root for in all of sports, losing to the team that won last night pains me more than any other loss. There are teams I root for. There are teams I root against. There are teams I dislike. There are teams I hat. But the team with which the Jets share a stadium? I hat them, their fans, their legacy and their entire organization. Don't try to bother me with facts or questions. I don't care that it was an exhibition game. I'm pissed. Later Christmas 2011 must have been a blast at your house.

MFS62 Aug 30 2016 11:19 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

HahnSolo wrote: Christmas 2011 must have been a blast at your house. No. But I loved the heck out of this game: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/12/19/sport ... efeat.html Later

Vic Sage Sep 02 2016 02:14 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Hackenberg over Lynch will haunt the Jets for the next decade.

Nymr83 Sep 02 2016 04:09 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

the Jets are probably relieved that Petty's injury, no matter how serious, gives them an excuse to PUP or IR him and still keep all 4 quarterbacks. I am convinced Hackenberg was a trrible pick, not sure Lynch will be any good either, should have stocked up on O-line or something with that pick.

MFS62 Sep 02 2016 11:33 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 wrote: should have stocked up on O-line or something with that pick. This. Restocking the O line hasn't been a hole in their drafting and signing strategies for the past few years, it has been a gaping chasm. Later

Nymr83 Sep 04 2016 01:45 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

some big cuts for the Jet today - Dee Millner & Jace Amaro are gone! Tommy Bohanon too.

MFS62 Sep 04 2016 08:33 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

They put RT Breno Giacomini on the PUP list as the rosters were cut down to 53. I can't think of a more appropriate place for him. We've known that he was Physically Unable to Perform his job at right tackle since the first day we saw him. Later

Nymr83 Sep 04 2016 11:42 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Practice Squad so far: WR Myles White G Craig Watts DL Claude Pelon LB Freddie Bishop LB Victor Ochi CB Bryson Keeton S Doug Middleton

Nymr83 Sep 05 2016 12:22 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I don't really like Amaro, but the folks over at GangGreenNation really put it best, this was a baffling cut... the Jets are BAD at Tight End, and they let go of the most promising one on he roster [url]http://www.ganggreennation.com/2016/9/4/12791724/jets-53-man-roster-thoughts-and-analysis-on-quarterbacks-jace-amaro The Jets gave up on Jace Amaro too soon ... Amaro is cut for a bad preseason, while Davis has no consequences for being a poor performer for an entire regular season

Vic Sage Sep 06 2016 06:09 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Bowles must have hated him. Also, the JETS are weak on the RT/RG end of the O-Line, so they'll probably use blocking TEs, not a big receiver who drops passes and can't block. Yeah, he has talent, and may yet develop, but i'm not heartbroken over his departure. Enunwa can block AND catch.

Nymr83 Sep 07 2016 03:40 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I like Enunwa a lot! but I'd rather have Amaro than Brandon Bostick. And I'm not really sure what purpose Kellen Davis serves - he can't catch or run a route at all. he blocks ok I guess, but if all he does is block and you know he's in there to block why not just use a 6th lineman who blocks better in his place?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 08 2016 03:10 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Seems like a weird keep-the-veteran move.

Nymr83 Sep 08 2016 04:14 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

but if he "keep the veteran" was thing why cut Thompkins and Ross and keep Jalin Marshall? The Jets are thin at backup receiver right now with only rookies Robby Anderson, Jalin Marshall, & Charone Peake behind Marshall/Decker and hybrid Enunwa.

Nymr83 Sep 12 2016 02:36 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I am still steaming from this loss. enough so that i shut the TV off and didn't watch the 4 pm games. missing an extra point AND a 22 yard field goal is way too much fuck up from a kicker. Revis is probably an above average corner now. the TD wasn't his fault (blown assignment by the safety) but he just didnt shut Green down like he would have a couple of years ago. Speaking of blowing assignments, Gilchrist was TERRIBLE today, from not knowing where to be when he was the 'center fielder' to getting trucked and looking like a punter trying to a tackle on special teams in the process, he just sucked. Marshall? where the fuck was he all game? nice drop by the way. the D-line was the bright spot today - and Enunwa! Forte had about 30 touches, he looked great, but Week 1 will do that to you. KEEP HIM FRESH coach!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 12 2016 11:10 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The missed PAT was long gone when they twice had it within a few feet of the goal, failed to punch it in after 3 downs and wussed out with a field goal both times. If you're not trying to win but only get close, you deserve what happens.

d'Kong76 Sep 12 2016 03:34 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

2-5 in the red zone, stinky secondary play at times, obviously the missed kicks. Seven sacks was nice if you're looking for positives. Quick turnaround, gotta go play in the orchard on Thursday night and going 0-2 (after yesterday) would really be a kick in the big green belly.

Frayed Knot Sep 12 2016 03:55 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I know I've said this before, but I'm of the opinion that the NFL is ripe for some kind of sabermetric-style revolution and an increase in percentage of times an offense would 'go for it' both in 4th and short situations (or even 4th and not-so-short in many cases) and for TDs rather than settling for punts and FGs would be among the first things that would benefit the team(s) willing to try them. But the tendency to do things the way they have always been done combined with an intense revulsion to being second-guessed is at least as strong in football as it ever was in baseball despite the NFL's reputation (mostly self-invented and self-perpetuated IMO) for innovation.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 12 2016 04:02 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The worst that could happen would that they'd still be losing but have a QB they sacked like 100 times starting on the 2 yard line. They;re such wussbags!

Vic Sage Sep 12 2016 07:06 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

i saw it coming like it was in slow motion... those missed kicks hanging over the game like a storm cloud waiting to break open; the secondary giving up big plays even when the DL was consistently putting Andy on his ass; the lack of imagination in the red zone, running it up the middle against a packed defense over and over; drops and sailing passes... a 2 pt lead with Bengals getting the ball with too much time left on the clock. It was all right there, waiting to happen and i was staring like a rubbernecker on the highway, knowing that the shit was about to hit the fan. thats the thing about being a Jets fan... you expect the worst, and then you're rarely disappointed. J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK!

batmagadanleadoff Sep 12 2016 09:50 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frayed Knot wrote: I know I've said this before, but I'm of the opinion that the NFL is ripe for some kind of sabermetric-style revolution and an increase in percentage of times an offense would 'go for it' both in 4th and short situations (or even 4th and not-so-short in many cases) and for TDs rather than settling for punts and FGs would be among the first things that would benefit the team(s) willing to try them. But the tendency to do things the way they have always been done combined with an intense revulsion to being second-guessed is at least as strong in football as it ever was in baseball despite the NFL's reputation (mostly self-invented and self-perpetuated IMO) for innovation. I don't know the details of this game, but generally speaking, a team should usually go for the touchdown instead of the field goal when they're inside their opponents 10 yard line. NFL coaches, however, as a group, are, in many ways, probably the most conservative and least progressive coaches in American team sports.

Nymr83 Sep 13 2016 12:11 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I know I've said this before, but I'm of the opinion that the NFL is ripe for some kind of sabermetric-style revolution and an increase in percentage of times an offense would 'go for it' both in 4th and short situations (or even 4th and not-so-short in many cases) and for TDs rather than settling for punts and FGs would be among the first things that would benefit the team(s) willing to try them. But the tendency to do things the way they have always been done combined with an intense revulsion to being second-guessed is at least as strong in football as it ever was in baseball despite the NFL's reputation (mostly self-invented and self-perpetuated IMO) for innovation. I don't know the details of this game, but generally speaking, a team should usually go for the touchdown instead of the field goal when they're inside their opponents 10 yard line. NFL coaches, however, as a group, are, in many ways, probably the most conservative and least progressive coaches in American team sports. I think "inside the 10" is a bit liberal - turning the ball over at the 7 yard line and leaving 3 points on the field is pretty unappealing to me - leaving aside the score/situation i'd say inside the 2 is automatic for me and inside the 5 if i feel good about it. from the 5 to the 10 i'm kicking it with few regrets. But wouldn't it be nice if the coach at least knew what the numbers said?

Frayed Knot Sep 13 2016 12:37 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I don't have any specific answers as to when or how often coaches should go on 4th downs or forego the FG for a TD try - except that I believe they need to be doing so more often then they do now which is practically never due to the aforementioned ultra-conservative and risk-averse tendencies of NFL head coaches and despite being in an era where the rules have been intentionally rigged so as to produce more offense. It's as if NFL coaches are afflicted with the worst aspects of '90s-'00s managers who still automatically bunted with the #2 hitter whenever the leadoff guy got on because that the way the 1960s Dodger teams did it, combined with today's trend of sticking to textbook use of the designated closer so as to avoid being second-guessed.

d'Kong76 Sep 15 2016 08:16 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Almost forgot there's a game tonight! Biggest game of the season. Big. Still annoyed about Sunday, hopefully they'll have some stuff figured out.

d'Kong76 Sep 16 2016 12:30 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Red is one of my least favorite colors, but damn the Bills' unis are fugly.

d'Kong76 Sep 16 2016 01:05 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Is it me, or was that the longest first quarter of football in the history of tediously-long-first-quarters of football?

Fman99 Sep 16 2016 01:11 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Ugh. Two shovel passes inside the red zone and nothing directed at Marshall. Awful play calling.

d'Kong76 Sep 16 2016 02:19 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Note to self: DVR Jets games

d'Kong76 Sep 16 2016 02:29 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Marshall flashing the hands made of brick...

d'Kong76 Sep 16 2016 03:20 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Thurz-nite football suxx... except when the Jets are winning.

Frayed Knot Sep 16 2016 03:22 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

So aside from the multiple 80-some yard long-strike TDs the NYJ defense (and offense in one case) allowed, the rest of the game went pretty well (he says at the risk of speaking too soon)

Nymr83 Sep 16 2016 04:38 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Positives: Even with Carpenter hurt, the O-line mostly protected Fitz - and not just to dump off the ball, he was chucking it with protection! D-line didnt get any sacks, but they were pressuring and they just said NO to the running game most of the time Forte looks amazing - i hope he can hold up! Powell is ... getting lots of rest Enunwa is a beast. BEASTTT - the Jets didnt need a 3rd receiver behind last year's big 2 because they already had one! Negatives: Rontez Miles got abused. Revis island has sunk. He is still probably a top 15 man corner in this league, but he isnt the guy who takes away half the field all by himself anymore. Penalties on the offensive line - if Carpenter is out long we are in trouble against a better team Marshall, for the second straight week, dropped a huge pass without even getting smacked around on the play. I liked Rex when he was here, but his brother is probably the most overrated defensive coordinator i've seen.

Elster88 Sep 16 2016 08:24 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I think the Jets are really good

Frayed Knot Sep 16 2016 11:52 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 wrote: I liked Rex when he was here, but his brother is probably the most overrated defensive coordinator i've seen. I keep thinking that things might work out for Rob if he could just get hisself some face time on TV.

d'Kong76 Sep 16 2016 03:31 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Rob, why don't you cut your hair already?!? Would you want to look like my brother Rex? Fair enough.

metirish Sep 16 2016 05:35 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Couldn't stay up for most of the 4th quarter. These games just finish way too late.

Nymr83 Sep 26 2016 12:51 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

this was just horrible, like the butt fumble game or the game where Geno turned the ball over 3 times in a row

Vic Sage Sep 26 2016 06:39 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

i felt this one coming, so i avoided it. ugh. SOJ

MFS62 Sep 26 2016 10:42 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

At one point while I was watching, the Mets and Jets scores were both 17-0. How eerie. Later

d'Kong76 Oct 03 2016 01:18 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I know it's stoopid to go by in-game camera shots, post-game interviews, and other media coverage but I've lost all faith in Coach Bowles. He seems out of his depth or something. KB suggested this afternoon we find a new team. She said no way to the Giants, it would be like rooting for the Yankees. I said not quite, but I got what she meant. Jets need to end the season .500 or we're gone. Adios. AFC or NFC? I was a Steeler fan as a yute. With some therapy I could find it within myself to go back to them...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 03 2016 02:46 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frankly, results notwithstanding, Bowles seemed out of his depth last year. Especially but not exclusively during tense in-game situations.

Fman99 Oct 03 2016 11:27 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

So Fitz is bad now? :(

d'Kong76 Oct 03 2016 05:30 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Geno! Geno! Geno! (Eugene Cyril Smith III!)

d'Kong76 Oct 09 2016 08:04 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Yet another three hours of wasted time on the Jets.

MFS62 Oct 09 2016 10:51 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nothing football-wise to wait for this year. Well, maybe the announcement that they're firing their coach. And the 2017 draft. Post season baseball wheeling and dealing can't get here soon enough. Later

Nymr83 Oct 10 2016 03:59 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

its over. Fire Bowles and his entire coaching staff. sad to say it, but i think the talent is completely dry in too many places on this team. the Jets need to blow it up and rebuild - not just "re tool"

Lefty Specialist Oct 10 2016 11:20 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 10 2016 11:25 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I watched only a few minutes but Jets were awful, especially defense, and punting 4-th-and-short, down 11 points, in the 4th quarter, when your D's been sucking the big one seemed to give the Jets what they deserved.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2016 01:23 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ... and punting 4-th-and-short, down 11 points, in the 4th quarter, when your D's been sucking the big one seemed to give the Jets what they deserved. Yup! I watched only the 4th quarter and so this was one of the first things I saw made. Maybe, even if just as an experiment, one of the sucky teams should adopt a no-punting policy (or at least a limited version of it like none once past your own 30 or something). What's the worst that can happen, that you continue to suck? Big Frickin' Deal! ... and if nothing else it would make your games more interesting and give your fans a reason to watch and something to talk about. Although, knowing the NFL, an improved team would then probably get criticized for blowing their shot at a higher draft pick so the coach will getting second-guessed and/or fired anyway which furthers the reason why it won't happen.

HahnSolo Oct 10 2016 02:14 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Too lazy to look, but there have been stats guys who've advocated for less punting across the board. Hard to have a good feel for Bowles at this point. He was brought in as a guy whose defenses blitzed a lot, brought a lot of pressure and played stingy man to man. I understand the secondary is disappointing, but the front 3/4 have a lot of talent. Yet the defense stinks. And why the hell is Sheldon Richardson actually dropping back in coverage on some plays? Just awful. Bowles game management has been sketchy throughout his tenure, but has really blown up this year. Yesterday's was CYO-level coaching. How about letting Pitt score at the end of the half, then sitting on the ball with 40 seconds and a timeout, knowing the Steelers get the second half kickoff. The punt with seven minutes left??? Steelers already had four scoring drives in the game plus one drive that ended with a botched fake FG and another on a turnover just outside the red zone. how could Bowles have any confidence the defense would force a 3 and out? He's been shaky with his challenges (witness the challenge on the spot early in the fourth quarter yesterday). Also worth noting is that the Jets have been outscored in the second halves of all five games this year.

Ashie62 Oct 10 2016 05:54 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Opposing teams offenses are staying out of the box and having a field day.. Brandon Marshall needs Decker to work with. All in all, the Jets look slow and plodding.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2016 06:34 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

HahnSolo wrote: Too lazy to look, but there have been stats guys who've advocated for less punting across the board. I'm sure there have been. Now all they need is for someone with the power and the guts to actually take them up on their suggestions. I think the pushback from within football to such ideas might actually turn out to be stronger than it was to many of the sabermetric concepts in baseball even as those who cover the NFL constantly sell it as a league of daring and innovation while deriding MLB as one mired in the old ways of not just the 20th century but often back in the 19th.

Nymr83 Oct 11 2016 01:11 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

the NFL is about the opposite on innovative. when changes do come, they usually come from the college ranks up to the pros.

Frayed Knot Oct 11 2016 01:23 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 wrote: the NFL is about the opposite on innovative. when changes do come, they usually come from the college ranks up to the pros. Yes, but that somehow doesn't stop [crossout]those who cover the league[/crossout] their PR agents from claiming just the opposite. I think about how every major rule change that the NFL has implemented [two pt conversions, replay, goalposts in the back of the end zone, radios in helmets, moving back kickoffs, etc.] is one that was not only tried out in other leagues first [college, AFL, WFL, USFL] but then mocked by the NFL as gimmicks not worthy of their attention, only to be adopted years later and touted as if they invented them.

d'Kong76 Oct 16 2016 02:33 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

RIP, Dennis Byrd.

Edgy MD Oct 16 2016 03:33 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I mentioned this on Febbook, but the Dennis Byrd game was the last NFL game I ever watched, at least voluntarily. I've gone to a few Super Bowl parties and watched it taking place over the bar at any number of restaurants. The geometry of the game is still appealing, but the reality of the baked-into-the-recipe exploitation and human suffering became more than I could bear.

MFS62 Oct 16 2016 01:48 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

d'Kong76 wrote: RIP, Dennis Byrd. How awful. When I heard about his death, I still couldn't believe it. He overcame so much, just to be able to walk again. And now this. RIP Later

d'Kong76 Oct 18 2016 02:03 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The suck, continues...

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2016 02:05 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Do they get to play the Browns this year? If so that might get them a win. On the other hand, they're not out-scoring the Indians so far tonight so maybe not.

MFS62 Oct 18 2016 03:16 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The team is playing like a bunch of something Donald Trump would grab. Later

HahnSolo Oct 18 2016 01:45 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Saw a lot of quit last night. That's on the players and coaches, and it is way to early to be mailing the season in, no matter what their record is. I've lost all faith in Bowles.

Nymr83 Oct 19 2016 03:01 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

well, its over. Geno Time? Petty Time?

Vic Sage Oct 19 2016 01:46 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

i'm curious to see Geno with some receivers to throw to (including the new TE). I don't know that the results will be much different, but at least i'll feel like we gave him a real chance to show us something before letting him walk after this season. And i'm not ready to look at Petty until they're done with Geno. And I don't think they drafted Hackenberg in the 2R because they have alot of confidence in Petty's development.

Nymr83 Oct 19 2016 02:35 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Vic Sage wrote: i'm curious to see Geno with some receivers to throw to (including the new TE). I don't know that the results will be much different, but at least i'll feel like we gave him a real chance to show us something before letting him walk after this season. And i'm not ready to look at Petty until they're done with Geno. And I don't think they drafted Hackenberg in the 2R because they have alot of confidence in Petty's development. well, they have to have some confidence to keep Petty on the roster as a 4th quarterback instead of keeping Kenbrell Thompkins, Dee Milliner, any freaking fullback, etc. or maybe they are just stupid. i'm leaning towards stupid.

d'Kong76 Oct 19 2016 02:50 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

During the first half of Monday's game the booth was talking about the Jets having four quarterbacks and I guess one of them asked Coach Bowels why and he said something like they have a justification for it but he couldn't divulge what the reason was. I'm totally paraphrasing, but it struck me as kinda dumb at the time and then I forgot about it. It's Wednesday, I guess we should have an announcement on who will start on Sunday soon?

d'Kong76 Oct 19 2016 03:27 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

And right on cue, tweets are singing that Geno will be the man on Sunday.

Lefty Specialist Oct 19 2016 04:28 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

So glad they chased after Fitz all summer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 19 2016 04:35 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The predictable thing to happen now is for Geno to play just well enough to introduce doubt as to who becomes next year's QB, ad infinitum with the J-E-T-S

Vic Sage Oct 19 2016 04:43 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

bingo

Nymr83 Oct 19 2016 05:14 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The predictable thing to happen now is for Geno to play just well enough to introduce doubt as to who becomes next year's QB, ad infinitum with the J-E-T-S You are forgetting the part where they give Geno a completely unearned extension like they did with Sanchez to say "sorry we flirted with free agent options, we love you"

d'Kong76 Oct 19 2016 05:16 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Or they can win the next 7, Geno is November's NLF player-of-the-month, and green balloons can come shooting out of Vic's ass!! #atltVSa

Vic Sage Oct 21 2016 05:37 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

wouldn't be the first time, compadre.

MFS62 Oct 21 2016 10:26 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Vic Sage wrote: wouldn't be the first time, compadre. We know. The video went viral. Later

MFS62 Oct 23 2016 08:35 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Geno started and looked good. Then he got hurt. They won. But Fitzpatrick will probably be the starter next week. And we'll watch. Jets fans. Masochists-R-Us. Later

seawolf17 Oct 24 2016 12:57 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Good thing we've got ourselves a hotshot rookie defensive lineman now! http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ ... 1.12496723

Frayed Knot Oct 24 2016 01:42 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I saw the second half of this game, and let's just say that the NFL isn't putting this one in its vault in order to show future audiences what great football games look like. In fact I suspect they've already burned the game films. But I guess winning ugly is better than losing pretty, so there's that.

Vic Sage Oct 24 2016 02:14 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

seawolf17 wrote: Good thing we've got ourselves a hotshot rookie defensive lineman now! http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ ... 1.12496723 Oh, gee! Ochi's a victor! Yeah, baby.

Frayed Knot Oct 24 2016 07:18 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Geno = Torn ACL He's getting a second opinion on that but how often do those things get reversed. So you have to figure that's it for this season and most likely his NYJ career

d'Kong76 Oct 25 2016 02:04 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Guess Broadmouth Joe might want to take back a tweet or two...

Vic Sage Oct 25 2016 06:33 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frayed Knot wrote: Geno = Torn ACL He's getting a second opinion ... OK, he's ugly, too.

MFS62 Oct 25 2016 10:18 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Vic Sage wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Geno = Torn ACL He's getting a second opinion ... OK, he's ugly, too. Thank you, Rodney Dangerfield. LOL! Later

Nymr83 Oct 25 2016 11:53 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Geno was better than his stat line Sunday as two balls that should have been caught and a few more that maybe could have been were in there - I had forgotten how strong his arm is. good luck somewhere else.

d'Kong76 Oct 26 2016 04:59 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Namath apologizes...

Vic Sage Oct 26 2016 05:24 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

i love Broadway Joe, but he's a silly old drunk with a big mouth, and the media always go to him cuz they know he'll give them some red meat. It's like the class asshole who gives the slow kid a quarter to eat a worm.

MFS62 Nov 06 2016 12:02 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

From the Jets fans united website: The Jets announced they have signed TE Eric Tomlinson and waived LBVictor Ochi. Tomlinson (6’6”, 263), signed with Philadelphia after going undrafted in 2015. After being cut from the Eagles, he spent his rookie season on the Texans practice squad. The UTEP product helped pave the way for a Miners rushing attack that ranked third in Conference USA while hauling in 134 yards a touchdown his senior year. Ochi (6’1”, 246) signed to the Jets practice squad on Sep. 12 before being promoted to the active roster Oct. 22. The Stony Brook product played in Weeks 7 and 8, playing both defense and special teams. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 06 2016 09:20 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

fuckin Jets

d'Kong76 Nov 06 2016 09:26 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

How do you get caught off-sides on a kickoff there? The lack of discipline and self control is just unacceptable at this level. Put him on a Greyhound up 95 so he has sometime alone time to think about it for next week.

Ashie62 Nov 06 2016 10:51 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Next coach... Greg Schiano HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vic Sage Nov 07 2016 05:32 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

this happened because they cut Victor Ochi J-E-T-S SUCK! SUCK!! SUCK!!!

MFS62 Nov 13 2016 11:00 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Petty looked pretty good in the first half. Then the coaches put the wagons in a circle and got conservative. If you want to see what a young quarterback can do, let him show you. Dammit! Later

d'Kong76 Nov 13 2016 11:47 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Fuck 'em, next year I'm going to get the NFL package and join a few roto- fantasy leagues and go back to the mob sheets a little and root for me.

Nymr83 Nov 14 2016 01:33 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

you can start that plan NOW with daily fantasy

Lefty Specialist Nov 14 2016 02:35 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Todd Bowles death watch continues.

Frayed Knot Nov 15 2016 03:39 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

One good thing about the lousy season if you're a NYJ season ticket holder, the Sunday Nov 27 game vs the Patriots has been switched Out of the Sunday night slot and back to a 4:25 start. Of course 4:25 in the northeast in late November after the clocks have changed is still essentially a night game but at least you can tailgate while there's still some natural light kicking around. Now think about how little the 'Shield' thinks of this team when the mere thought of subjecting the rest of the nation to some J-E-T-S football causes them to take Tom Brady out of a prime time TV slot!!

Nymr83 Nov 15 2016 04:50 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

seriously, the Jets are bad bad bad. happy for flex scheduling so they wont be ruining my evening that day.

Vic Sage Nov 15 2016 02:32 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

thank god we're not playing this weekend. I can focus on how miserable i am about Trump.

d'Kong76 Nov 15 2016 03:50 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

BYE is favored by 11½ points on Sunday.

Vic Sage Nov 15 2016 03:57 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

i'll give the points.

MFS62 Nov 15 2016 11:28 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frayed Knot wrote: One good thing about the lousy season if you're a NYJ season ticket holder, the Sunday Nov 27 game vs the Patriots has been switched Out of the Sunday night slot and back to a 4:25 start. Oh crap! That's going to interfere with my watching the CFL playoffs. Last Sunday, the Edmonton Eskimos beat the Hamilton Tiger Cats in a squeaker. It was nice to see some exciting football of ANY kind instead of watching that LA/Jets game. OE: November 27 is the date for the Grey Cup (CFL Championship) Game. I'll definitely be watching that. Later

MFS62 Nov 25 2016 02:51 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

A hit by a Jets player on Patriots QB Drew Bledsoe knocked him out of the game and put the backup, Tom Brady, in the game. The rest is history. Wouldn't it be true justice if the Pats knocked Fitz out of the game (not wishing permanent injury) and let Petty take command for the next, say, ten years? Later

d'Kong76 Nov 25 2016 03:06 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I believe Mo Lewis (one of my all-time favorite Jets) was that player.

d'Kong76 Nov 28 2016 12:27 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Well, that was fun!!

Nymr83 Nov 28 2016 01:13 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Season Over, but nice try today. Biggest (non-)play of the game was when Brady was out in front as the lead-blocker at least 10 yards down the field and nobody even put a hand on him. that is an opportunity to light him up and someone needs to take it.

Frayed Knot Nov 28 2016 01:32 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I caught the tail-end of the Balt-Cincy game which ended on a fucked up play. Ravens up by a touchdown with about 15 seconds left, but they have the ball deep in their end and it's 4th-Down so they need to kick it away. So they snap it to the punter who simply retreats 10 yards or so into the end zone and basically just stands there until the clock runs out as no member of the Bengals was able to get anywhere near him. Why such a pathetic rush by Cincy? Because each member of the Baltimore offense had tackled a member of the defense and was blatantly holding them down!! ... there were uniform holds, choke holds (seriously, choke holds!), linemen were sitting on their counterparts not letting them get up, there may have been a lasso or two involved and maybe some handcuffs although I couldn't tell for sure. About 17 flags came flying out onto the field (I think Jill Stein even lodged a protest) but no one got anywhere close to him and so nothing stopped the play until the clock ran out. As soon as I saw what was developing I thought to myself that 'this is brilliant', and, 'how come I've never seen this before?'!!!', although, as seems par for the course, the color analyst was totally clueless and was under the impression that the Bengals were going to get the ball back on an 'untimed down'. In the end it was ruled a Safety although I'm not sure why as the punter didn't step over the end-line until after the clock had run out and none of the infractions appeared to have been committed in the end zone*. But, unlike the old saying that the game can't end on a defensive penalty, there are no such restrictions against a game ending on an offensive penalty (or even nine of them) and so the Ravens wind up winning by 5. * I guess maybe the punter is considered to have 'downed' it in the end zone on account of never kicking it - hence the safety. I wonder -- heh, heh, heh, -- if any bets turned on that play?

batmagadanleadoff Nov 28 2016 01:49 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 28 2016 01:52 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: I As soon as I saw what was developing I thought to myself that 'this is brilliant', and, 'how come I've never seen this before?'!!! The 49ers ran a variation of that play twice this season, which will result in a rule change, if not already. I know this because I might be one of about a dozen or so New Yorkers that actually follow this fucked up post-Harbaugh 49ers team, which is about as fucked up as the 49ers have been for the 15 or so years before Harbaugh's arrival, which roughly covers the period when Eddie DeBartolo was more or less forced to relinquish his interest in the team. Anyway, here's what the 49ers did. With the opposing team driving for what might be a touchdown, inside the red zone, and down to their last play of the half .. the opposing team calls for a pass play into the end zone so that if the pass is incomplete, the clock stops and there's still time to try and kick a field goal. But the 49ers thwart the touchdown attempt by having every defensive player commit intentional pass interference on every offensive player running a pass pattern. Some of these interferences are flagrant, without any pretense and resemble actual muggings. Because the clock runs during the play and that time is not put back, the 49ers prevent a touchdown.

Edgy MD Nov 28 2016 01:51 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Play continues after the clock runs out, so if he eventually ran out of the end zone, it counts as a defensive score. But sheesh. There's so much farce in football endgames as it is, but that sure sounds like a new level.

MFS62 Nov 28 2016 01:55 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I'm waiting for the head coach to realize that Fitzpatrick isn't going to save his job, so he just might just see what he has with Petty. Later

RealityChuck Nov 28 2016 03:19 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

"We battled."

Frayed Knot Nov 28 2016 03:56 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Edgy MD wrote: There's so much farce in football endgames as it is, but that sure sounds like a new level. The one brief thing I read about it since the end of the game suggested that a team can only utilize such a play once -- IOW, they couldn't have pulled this stunt on 2nd down and then again on 3rd and again still on 4th -- because the ref is empowered to rule it a "palpably unfair act" the second time around and reset the clock. Why it is a 'P.U.A.' the second time around and not the first is unclear to me.

MFS62 Nov 28 2016 02:29 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I did watch the end of the Grey Cup (CFL Championship) Game. From Reuters: Henry Burris threw three touchdowns, including one in overtime, and ran in two others as the Ottawa Redblacks stunned the Calgary Stampeders 39-33 to win the 104th Grey Cup in one of the biggest upsets in Canadian Football League history on Sunday. Burris was named the game's Most Valuable Player after completing 35-of-46 passes, none bigger than the 11-yard strike to Ernest Jackson in overtime that gave Ottawa their first Grey Cup for 40 years, when the team were known as the Rough Riders. The 41-year-old Burris, who also connected on touchdown passes to Brad Sinopoli and Patrick Lavoie and threw for a total of 461 yards, became the oldest quarterback to lead his team to a Grey Cup triumph. Burris made deep out throws that Fitzpatrick could never dream of making. Petty can. I hope coach Bowles saw some of the game. Later

Edgy MD Nov 28 2016 02:44 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

The real story out of Canada was the CFL choosing US pop band One Republic as their halftime entertainment, leading to cries of "NOOOO!" and "Wha?" and "Who's that, eh?" [youtube:3cb5irrt]hT_nvWreIhg[/youtube:3cb5irrt]

Frayed Knot Nov 28 2016 03:35 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Edgy MD wrote: The real story out of Canada was the CFL choosing US pop band One Republic as their halftime entertainment ... An act which violates the 'Can-Con' standard - a term I just recently learned about. So it turns out that Canadian music radio stations are required to have a certain percentage (I believe it's at least 50%) of their content be Canadian in origin - lest their pop culture get swallowed up by that behemoth nation to the south. So when a NY-based DJ I was listening to recently just happened to follow a Neil Young song with a Joni Mitchell tune and then one by Ron Sexsmith, his Canadian-born friend in the studio remarked how those three songs would have been a great set for one who needed to satisfy his 'Can-Con' quota, 'Can-Con' being shorthand for 'Canadian Content', the concept of which he then went on to explain to both the DJ and, by extension, the audience. Such laws probably don't apply to Grey Cup halftime acts. But, still, you figure that someone from the great white north had to be available and, although I'm not familiar with the 'One Republic' catalog, I'm guessing whatever local act was substituted didn't have that high a bar to clear to be an improvement.

MFS62 Nov 29 2016 12:28 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I found that funny because Alanis Morisette is part of a three artist show at Barclay's Center in good ol' Brooklyn. And I'm not sure what Gino Vanelli (one of my wife's favorite singers) is doing these days. http://www.ginov.com/bio/ Later

HahnSolo Nov 29 2016 12:55 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

How ridiculously bad must Petty be in practice that Bowles still keeps going back to Fitzpatrick? Announced today that he starts again this week.

d'Kong76 Nov 29 2016 01:15 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I saw this about an hour ago, just makes me roll my eyes more.

Edgy MD Nov 29 2016 02:45 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The real story out of Canada was the CFL choosing US pop band One Republic as their halftime entertainment ... An act which violates the 'Can-Con' standard - a term I just recently learned about. So it turns out that Canadian music radio stations are required to have a certain percentage (I believe it's at least 50%) of their content be Canadian in origin - lest their pop culture get swallowed up by that behemoth nation to the south. So when a NY-based DJ I was listening to recently just happened to follow a Neil Young song with a Joni Mitchell tune and then one by Ron Sexsmith, his Canadian-born friend in the studio remarked how those three songs would have been a great set for one who needed to satisfy his 'Can-Con' quota, 'Can-Con' being shorthand for 'Canadian Content', the concept of which he then went on to explain to both the DJ and, by extension, the audience. Such laws probably don't apply to Grey Cup halftime acts. But, still, you figure that someone from the great white north had to be available and, although I'm not familiar with the 'One Republic' catalog, I'm guessing whatever local act was substituted didn't have that high a bar to clear to be an improvement. Shit, not only did Grey Cup programmers CARE about having Canadian artists (or, alternatively, were coerced by broadcasters), they even tried to show regional fealty, often booking artists associated with the city or province that hosted the game. So solid was their national and regional pride that they featured Canadian artists (but not Rush) EVERY year, until that was ruined, as most good things are, by Black Eyed Peas. Now we've had non-Canadian artists three years in a row and nobody knows where we stand or what the policy is. Frankly, it makes me sick. Game Year Venue Artist Nationality Content 78th Grey Cup 1990 BC Place Stadium, Vancouver, British Columbia (Folk Dance Troups) 79th Grey Cup 1991 Winnipeg Stadium, Winnipeg, Manitoba Luba, Burton Cummings 100% Canadian 80th Grey Cup 1992 SkyDome, Toronto, Ontario Dan Hill, Celine Dion 100% Canadian 81st Grey Cup 1993 McMahon Stadium, Calgary, Alberta (Western Performer Miss Molly) 82nd Grey Cup 1994 BC Place Stadium, Vancouver, British Columbia Tom Cochrane 100% Canadian 83rd Grey Cup 1995 Taylor Field, Regina, Saskatchewan Jack Semple 100% Canadian 84th Grey Cup 1996 Ivor Wyinne Stadium, Hamilton, Ontario The Nylons 100% Canadian 85th Grey Cup 1997 Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton, Alberta Trooper 90% Canadian, 10% British 86th Grey Cup 1998 Winnipeg Stadium, Winnipeg, Manitoba Love, Inc. 100% Canadian 87th Grey Cup 1999 BC Place Stadium, Vancouver, British Columbia (Cheerleader Routines) 88th Grey Cup 2000 McMahon Stadium, Calgary, Alberta The Guess Who 100% Canadian 89th Grey Cup 2001 Olympic Stadium, Montreal, Quebec Sass Jordan, Michel Pagliaro 100% Canadian 90th Grey Cup 2002 Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton, Alberta Shania Twain 100% Canadian 91st Grey Cup 2003 Taylor Field, Regina, Saskatchewan Bryan Adams, Sam Roberts 100% Canadian 92nd Grey Cup 2004 Frank Clair Stadium, Ottawa, Ontario The Tragically Hip 100% Canadian 93rd Grey Cup 2005 BC Place Stadium, Vancouver, British Columbia The Black Eyed Peas 87.5% American, 12.5% Filipino 94th Grey Cup 2006 Canad Inns Stadium, Winnepeg, Manitoba Nelly Furtado, Saukrates 100% Canadian 95th Grey Cup 2007 Rogers Center, Toronto Canada Lenny Kravitz 100% American (but did sing Canadian rock classick "American Woman") 96th Grey Cup 2008 Olympic Stadium, Montreal, Quebec Theory of a Deadman, Suzie McNeil, and Andrée Watters 100% Canadian 97th Grey Cup 2009 McMahon Stadium, Calgary, Alberta Blue Rodeo 100% Canadian 98th Grey Cup 2010 Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton, Alberta Bachman & Turner 100% Canadian 99th Grey Cup 2011 BC Place Stadium, Vancouver, British Columbia Nickleback 100% Canadian 100th Grey Cup 2012 Rogers Center, Toronto Canada Justin Bieber, Carly Rae Jepsen, Marianas Trench, Gordon Lightfoot 100% Canadian 101st Grey Cup 2013 Mosaic Stadium at Taylor Field, Regina, Saskatchewan Hedley 100% Canadian 102nd Grey Cup 2014 BC Place Stadium, Vancouver, British Columbia Imagine Dragons 100% American 103rd Grey Cup 2015 Investors Group Field, Winnipeg, Manitoba Fall Out Boy 100% American 104th Grey Cup 2016 BMO Field, Toronto, Ontario OneRepublic 100% American

Lefty Specialist Nov 29 2016 03:56 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Fall Out Boy. Geez, they couldn't do any better?

Frayed Knot Nov 29 2016 04:04 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Lefty Specialist wrote: Fall Out Boy. Geez, they couldn't do any better? For an outdoor show in Manitoba in November? ... maybe not.

Edgy MD Nov 29 2016 04:19 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Maybe it's a subtle backhanded promotion of Canadian culture. Hire American Bands that stink.

Nymr83 Dec 02 2016 01:01 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

former Jet Joe McKnight dead at 28...gunshot

MFS62 Dec 02 2016 02:36 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 wrote: former Jet Joe McKnight dead at 28...gunshot Sad, RIP But thank you for rescuing this thread from the clutches of pirates who wanted to turn it into another music thread. Later

Vic Sage Dec 07 2016 10:09 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

what is left to be said?

Frayed Knot Dec 07 2016 10:14 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

what is left to be said? George R. R. Martin, on the Monday Night loss: "Life is meaningless and full of pain"

d'Kong76 Dec 07 2016 10:20 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Vic Sage wrote: what is left to be said? We could run an informal contest on what the 2017 thread title should be.

MFS62 Dec 08 2016 12:37 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

what is left to be said? We could run an informal contest on what the 2017 thread title should be. We could quote Winston Smith in 1984: "We are the dead". Later

Nymr83 Dec 08 2016 12:56 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

d'Kong76 wrote: what is left to be said? We could run an informal contest on what the 2017 thread title should be. 2017 Jets: More Pain, More Suffering, More Misery

MFS62 Dec 08 2016 01:12 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Remember the Titans (I do) Later

Nymr83 Dec 13 2016 05:43 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

dont be fooled by Sunday's win. the Jets still suck.

Vic Sage Dec 14 2016 02:28 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

nobody was fooled.

MFS62 Dec 14 2016 02:42 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

It was a win/lose/win result. win - they raised their record from humiliating to lousy lose - they hurt their draft position win - they may have found their quarterback of the future. it's like the classic win - you watch your mother-in-law drive over a cliff lose - in your new car win - you find the winning lottery ticket in her purse. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 14 2016 02:48 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I dunno. I turned that game on when it was 14-0 after like 5 minutes. When the Jets won it I jumped up and cheered.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 14 2016 03:05 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: When the Jets won it I jumped up and cheered. Me too. The Niners had a lot more to gain by losing than by winning, and it wasn't even close. If I were a Jets fan, I would've rooted for a Jets loss. The Jets would've been in the running for one of the first two draft picks with a loss, more likely the second pick. The difference between drafting first or second instead of, say, fourth or fifth is very likely the the most meaningful difference in draft position among any two picks that are three or four slots apart.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 14 2016 12:15 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Fans care way too much about that shit.

Vic Sage Dec 14 2016 06:31 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

i was happy when it happened, and annoyed later when i thought about the drop in draft position. But in no way did i think the game proved anything about Petty (or anybody else).

Frayed Knot Dec 14 2016 07:09 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

So you're saying that This Petty's nickname is still safe for a while then? [fimg=280]http://www.stp.eu/~/media/gac/stp/global/racing/richard-petty/petty.ashx?h=390&la=en&w=390&hash=33DF4C5639C93B0AE420FCE259C1497DD90FA752[/fimg]

MFS62 Dec 15 2016 02:22 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frayed Knot wrote: So you're saying that This Petty's nickname is still safe for a while then? [fimg=280]http://www.stp.eu/~/media/gac/stp/global/racing/richard-petty/petty.ashx?h=390&la=en&w=390&hash=33DF4C5639C93B0AE420FCE259C1497DD90FA752[/fimg] Based on that picture, I can't figure out why he was called a heart breaker. Not good looking at all. Later

Frayed Knot Dec 15 2016 04:29 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

There's a story in one of the papers about how the insertion of Petty has caused NYJ ticket prices to double for this weekend's game, and by 'double' it means that the secondary market price for some of the upper deck seats is around $10 instead of the $5 they had previously been. Oh well, at least it's not like the game is being played in the northeast after being swapped to a night-time start on one of the shortest days of the year during the coldest weather of the season so far ... oh wait!

Nymr83 Dec 15 2016 06:21 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

yeah, this game will be VERY poorly attended

Frayed Knot Dec 18 2016 04:02 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

So, those Jet fans who got tickets via secondary markets for five bucks ... they were overcharged.

Nymr83 Dec 18 2016 06:06 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frayed Knot wrote: So, those Jet fans who got tickets via secondary markets for five bucks ... they were overcharged. unless they left after the first drive and a half thinking they'd gotten their money's worth.

d'Kong76 Dec 18 2016 05:03 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Besides the Jets and Giants, what other football teams do CPFr's root for here? I know one Cowboys' fan, but he doesn't post anymore. I think T'monk has said that he doesn't like the Packers despite living in Wisconsin but I don't remember what he said his rooting interest is. One of my best friends and his eldest daughter are Cow- boys' fans and they've offered to welcome me with open arms. I dunno if I can swing to America's team comfortably. I need a new team for next year, preferably NFC.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 18 2016 05:12 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Not to speak for TransMonk but I believe he's a Washington Pigskins supporter. That was a pretty disgusting effort for the Jets last night. Anyone who was rooting for last week's loss got it back.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 18 2016 05:17 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Can't even spoil right. They gave up against a team that basically didn't have a quarterback, with a hobbled secondary, with a recent history-- hell, a tradition-- of late-season, cold-weather collapses. Never mind winning results. I get no enjoyment out of watching ANY aspect of this team this year.

HahnSolo Dec 18 2016 05:21 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Batmags has mentioned being a longtime 49ers fan.

HahnSolo Dec 18 2016 05:29 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

They can't bring Bowles back, can they? Bad clock/game management. Case in point, the time-out, no challenge on that play along the sidelines against SF. There are more examples. Team often looks unprepared. Defense (supposedly his specialty) looks awful at times. poor adjustments/bad second half team. Players (Hi Darrell!) giving zero fucks on the field with no repercussions. Lack of discipline all around (the Wilk/Sheldon benching fiasco) Four wins, only one against a decent, competently-coached team (Ravens); other three were to the Browns (0 wins), Niners (1 win), and Bills (about to fire their coach). AFter four straight coaching hires who were defensive assistants, I'd like an offensive-minded coach. Here's a name, a guy with HC experience: Todd Haley. A bit of a nut-job as HC in Kansas City, but hopefully he's learned his lesson as OC with Pittsburgh.

Lefty Specialist Dec 18 2016 06:23 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Ha. I'd forgotten that they were playing Saturday night, thereby saving me the agita.

Ashie62 Dec 18 2016 10:22 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Antbody see how many fans actually showed uo for the Sat. Jets game?

Frayed Knot Dec 19 2016 12:42 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Dozens!

Nymr83 Dec 19 2016 03:00 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Frayed Knot wrote: Dozens! Possibly Hundreds!

Frayed Knot Dec 19 2016 03:10 AM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Dozens! Possibly Hundreds! But almost certainly not hundreds of dozens. One thing about televised football games, the network is going to use all caution to Not show how Not full the stadium is so the upper deck was rarely if ever shown and being a night game you couldn't see that well even if it was.

d'Kong76 Dec 19 2016 12:33 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I didn't watch, but there were probably a decent number of mammal fans in attendance. In my twenty years of regularly going to games, Miami was always number one in home invasion. (at least it seemed that way to me)

Fman99 Dec 19 2016 02:16 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I watched until it went all to shit. Then I stopped. For my own mental health.

Vic Sage Dec 19 2016 02:40 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Fman99 wrote: I watched until it went all to shit. Then I stopped. For my own mental health. so you stopped watching months ago then?

Fman99 Dec 19 2016 03:06 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Vic Sage wrote: Fman99 wrote: I watched until it went all to shit. Then I stopped. For my own mental health. so you stopped watching months ago then? No, you'd think that. I have a mental reset button that goes off each Tuesday. Sadly.

Frayed Knot Dec 19 2016 09:00 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Besides the Jets and Giants, what other football teams do CPFr's root for here? I know one Cowboys' fan, but he doesn't post anymore. I think T'monk has said that he doesn't like the Packers despite living in Wisconsin but I don't remember what he said his rooting interest is. One of my best friends and his eldest daughter are Cowboys' fans and they've offered to welcome me with open arms. I dunno if I can swing to America's team comfortably. I need a new team for next year, preferably NFC. Football fandom has often seemed a bit weird to me. I didn't grow up in a football household so didn't 'inherit' a team the way I did the Mets and only wound up gravitating to the Jets for the simple reason that they played at Shea while the Giants played in that other place. Besides, Mets & Jets rhymed! With the other kids in neighborhood/school there were some NYJ fans (some of whom I think were mostly just Namath fans while others because some of the players lived in our area of L.I. -- I even knew where Ralph Baker lived) but the biggest group by far were those who were fans of out of town teams, easily outnumbering those for either of the locals; in fact I don't think I even knew a Giants fan until I was in college. I had several theories on this 1) Bandwagon jumping: Settling on whichever team was consistently good in your youth seemed to be a deciding factor for a sizable number of football fans even though almost no one did that when it came to baseball. This was perhaps strengthened because it was the tail-end of the 'blackout' era when teams didn't televise their own home games for fear of hurting attendance (it took an act of Congress to end that practice) which meant that the league's better clubs showed up on your Sunday afternoon TV screen almost as often as the locals did and then even more so during playoff time. 2) Player identification: Guys would fall totally for one team based solely on the presence of a chosen player. Today that would be almost entirely QB-driven but back then it could be a RB or a receiver, or a defensive player, but once you decided that some guy was your guy then his team was your team. 3) Helmets: Can't tell you how many people I've talked to over the years whose lifelong NFL affiliation began based on which helmet they liked best. It always seemed to me that it must be tough to follow a team you often were only able see on TV 2 or 3 times per season [in those pre- 'Sunday Ticket' / 'Red Zone' / multiple 'GotW' days] - but once those guys locked into a team they seemed to stick with them even when the team was no longer consistently good and the childhood fave had long since retired and they had outgrown their juvenile helmet infatuations.

MFS62 Dec 19 2016 11:35 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

I always root for the AFL/AFC team to beat an NFL/NFC team. Later

RealityChuck Dec 21 2016 06:02 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Here's a complete list of the Jets named to this year's pro bowl. It is free of any typoes or other mistakes:

Frayed Knot Dec 24 2016 07:22 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Is there a 'Mercy Rule' in this league?

Lefty Specialist Dec 24 2016 08:08 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Todd Bowles should just go into the hospital and stay there. What a clusterfumft this team is.

Lefty Specialist Dec 24 2016 08:21 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Nymr83 Dec 27 2016 04:57 PM Re: Gang Green 2016 (aka Jets thread)

Rex Ryan fired today by the Bills. ouch.