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Let's not get our hopes up, but..

RealityChuck Jan 14 2016 02:38 PM

Source: Mets and Cespedes Closing In On 1-2 Year Deal?

Benjamin Grimm Jan 14 2016 02:45 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Interesting. Here's a link to the original article, by Rich Mancuso: Exclusive: Cespedes Meets With The Mets I don't know how credible Mancuso is, but here's what he's' saying: A source at Roc Nation, agents for Cespedes, and involved in their pro boxing division, was able to confirm that negotiations reopened late Wednesday with Cespedes and the Mets organization. And two other sources with knowledge have been able to confirm that Cespedes and the Mets are meeting with a one or two year deal on the table that is agreeable for both sides. (Why the mention of the pro boxing division?)

Edgy MD Jan 14 2016 02:51 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I gleaned that the source was a person who works with the boxing clients, and therefore is likely something less than a firsthand witness to whatever engagement has occurred among the Mets, the agency, and Cespedes himself, and Mancuso threw in that clause to give us then necessary grain of salt. A contract could be in the hammering-out stages right NOW!!!! Or, alternatively, Cespedes left a pair of golf shoes in his locker and wants them back.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 14 2016 02:54 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I'm looking forward to Mets Hot Stove this evening. If this really is a developing story, by 6 p.m. things may be a bit more clear.

Fman99 Jan 14 2016 03:01 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Jesus, I may come in off the ledge for this.

seawolf17 Jan 14 2016 03:02 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Too late. Hopes are up. COME ON, SANDY.

Ceetar Jan 14 2016 03:09 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I have zero faith this is any more info than we knew yesterday. (That the Mets were still talking to Cespedes, but were talking shorter deal)

Lefty Specialist Jan 14 2016 03:18 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

If he's willing to go shorter this will bring a lot of other teams into the mix. I'm pessimistic.

TransMonk Jan 14 2016 03:20 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Lefty Specialist wrote: If he's willing to go shorter this will bring a lot of other teams into the mix. I'm pessimistic. This is what I thought when learning the news.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 14 2016 03:20 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Fman99 wrote: Jesus, I may come in off the ledge for this.

Centerfield Jan 14 2016 03:35 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

seawolf17 wrote: Too late. Hopes are up. COME ON, SANDY. This. Checking Twitter. Like not a peep of this anywhere else.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 14 2016 03:39 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Source: Mets and Cespedes Closing In On 1-2 Year Deal? You know what would be great? A 1-year deal.

Ceetar Jan 14 2016 03:43 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Centerfield wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Too late. Hopes are up. COME ON, SANDY. This. Checking Twitter. Like not a peep of this anywhere else. Heyman reported yesterday that the Mets were one of few teams still in contact with Cespedes and appeared to be firm on a 2-3 year offering. There seemed to be other reports mentioning Atlanta so my guess is Cespedes' agent is trying to drum up more interest right now and seeing if anyone is willing to go more.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 14 2016 04:02 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Source: Mets and Cespedes Closing In On 1-2 Year Deal? You know what would be great? A 1-year deal. Jim Duquette (on Mets Hot Stove) has been using the term "pillow contract" regarding Cespedes. I'm not sure where the term comes from, but it would be a one-year deal that would allow Cespedes to test the free agent market again next year, when, according to Duquette, there will be less outfield competition. The risk to that, of course, would be that he'd be a year older and perhaps injured. I'm not sure what the ideal deal length is. From the Mets perspective, I'd be okay with them going to a second year, but that would probably make less sense for Cespedes, because then he'll be two years older for his next free agency. My hunch is that he'll either get a four- or five-year deal from someone, or go for the one-year pillow deal. I'm not sure that a two-year contract makes sense for him.

Edgy MD Jan 14 2016 04:03 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I love the phrasing of "firm in a 2-3 year offering." Two to three years leaves a 50% wiggle zone.

d'Kong76 Jan 14 2016 04:03 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Too much info out there that is based on info that's been (being) info'd already and passed off as info. Know what I'm sayin'? It does turn up my anxiety level a little for a shorty deal for big cash for the Yo'man though.

seawolf17 Jan 14 2016 05:17 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Two years, $50M. Mutual option for a third at $25M too. DO IT, SANDY.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 14 2016 05:18 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I'd be totally down with that.

Centerfield Jan 14 2016 05:24 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I would even give him an opt out after 1 year. We'd get a draft pick.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 14 2016 05:28 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Yes! That could be the kind of thing that gets the deal done. We can also throw in 72 virgins if we have to.

Mets Willets Point Jan 14 2016 05:30 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Benjamin Grimm wrote: We can also throw in 72 virgins if we have to. In New York City, where are you going to find those?

Benjamin Grimm Jan 14 2016 05:44 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Craig's List?

Centerfield Jan 14 2016 05:56 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I think it's a bad sign that not a single other source has picked this up.

Ashie62 Jan 14 2016 06:18 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Let there be hope.

dgwphotography Jan 14 2016 06:49 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Centerfield wrote: I think it's a bad sign that not a single other source has picked this up. Not that I have hope, but I think it's actually a good sign. If the agents were just trying to pump up interest, this would have been leaked to more sources.

Ceetar Jan 14 2016 06:53 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

dgwphotography wrote: Centerfield wrote: I think it's a bad sign that not a single other source has picked this up. Not that I have hope, but I think it's actually a good sign. If the agents were just trying to pump up interest, this would have been leaked to more sources. There's always someone leaking something if the sides are talking. if they're not actively negotiating we're in the same place we've been for weeks.

d'Kong76 Jan 14 2016 07:30 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

If this goes down I can't wait to see how many lay claim to have broke the story. Prediction: 2 years, $48 million, with YC given an opt out after this year if desired...

Lefty Specialist Jan 14 2016 08:58 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Adam Rubin, pissing in everyone's cornflakes: Adam Rubin ESPN Staff Writer From a second person in the know: The Mets maintain contact with Yoenis Cespedes' representatives about a short-term deal, but it is likely he gets a longer-term deal, or one with a higher average annual value, and signs elsewhere.

Ceetar Jan 14 2016 09:03 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Adam Rubin, pissing in everyone's cornflakes: Adam Rubin ESPN Staff Writer From a second person in the know: The Mets maintain contact with Yoenis Cespedes' representatives about a short-term deal, but it is likely he gets a longer-term deal, or one with a higher average annual value, and signs elsewhere. I'm pretty sure the cornflakes thing is his actual title, not 'Staff Writer'

d'Kong76 Jan 14 2016 09:04 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

d'Kong76 wrote: Prediction: 2 years, $48 million, with YC given an opt out after this year if desired... Er, I meant $38 million...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 14 2016 10:41 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Oh, I'm not getting my hopes up, because I don't buy for a SECOND that this is likely. I'm thinking that they're pitching him something like what his AAV asking price would be for a 5-to-6 year deal, or maybe ever so slightly more or less. Others will likely offer more per year for a pillow jobber, or give him the fifth year. Once Upton goes, he'll go, and fast. OE: What Rubin's second guy says, IOW. Yay, timing!

Ceetar Jan 14 2016 10:43 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Supposedly has an offer from the Orioles who might just be bluffing at Chris Davis.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 15 2016 05:45 AM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

This thing makes no sense on like 120 different levels.

Centerfield Jan 15 2016 02:25 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Agreed. My thinking on this: 1. Seems pretty clear that the Mancuso report is wrong. Everyone else is saying it's not true. 2. I have no idea why the Phils and Braves would be in on Cespedes. Not saying that they're not, but these guys are rebuilding. A short term deal for an expensive outfielder is just strange. 3. Why would the O's offer 5 years when everyone else is discussing a short term deal? I wonder if someone on the O's leaked this to get Chris Davis's attention. I'll keep hoping, but I think anything significant is a long shot.

Centerfield Jan 15 2016 02:26 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Ceetar wrote: Supposedly has an offer from the Orioles who might just be bluffing at Chris Davis. Ceetar! We agree on something! Ha. It was bound to happen at least once this offseason.

Ceetar Jan 15 2016 02:29 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Centerfield wrote: Ceetar wrote: Supposedly has an offer from the Orioles who might just be bluffing at Chris Davis. Ceetar! We agree on something! Ha. It was bound to happen at least once this offseason. the clue here i think is how no one seems to be nailing down a firm number for the 'offer'. and generally you don't hear about offers that just sit there for hours/days unaccepted.

Nymr83 Jan 15 2016 03:42 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: We can also throw in 72 virgins if we have to. In New York City, where are you going to find those? *to be eligible for your 72 virgins, you must blow up Yankee stadium.

Centerfield Jan 15 2016 03:48 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Whether he does or not we just don't have enough. Even if Yo likes d'Kong, we're still 71 virgins short.

Lefty Specialist Jan 15 2016 04:10 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Re the Orioles: Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com reported that the offer is in the five-year, $75 million to $90 million range. If true (a big if), that's $15-$18mm AAV, which is a lot lower than you'd expect. While I wouldn't want him for 5 years, that's not a back-breaking deal for the O's by any stretch. If he's not coming back to the Mets, a non-Yankee AL East team is the ideal scenario.

Centerfield Jan 20 2016 03:32 AM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Ken Rosenthal has the answer: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/new- ... act-011916 I don't think it would take 5 years. I think 4 years probably gets it done. Love this part: The Mets should have the money. They have spent a combined $35.5 million on four free agents this offseason – less than the Marlins, less than the Rockies, less than the Athletics – and made a trade for second baseman Neil Walker that was essentially cash-neutral. Their payroll, including pending arbitration cases, does not figure to increase much beyond where it was at the end of last season – about $110 million. By contrast, the payroll of the Mets’ World Series opponent – the Royals – figures to top $130 million. The Royals play in Kansas City, a low-revenue market in the Midwest. The Mets play in New York, a high-revenue market in the nation’s media capital. What’s wrong with this picture? Mets officials bristle at criticism that they do not spend enough money. Well, they hear such criticism because they ... do ... not ... spend ... enough money.

Centerfield Jan 20 2016 03:40 AM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

Actually, I take back the 4 years part. I have no idea what will get it done. I think the Upton contract proved that no one seems to have any clue what is really going on.

seawolf17 Jan 20 2016 01:56 PM Re: Let's not get our hopes up, but..

I just bought a CESPEDES 52 shirt for five bucks at Modell's last night, so that's either a jinx or a FANTASTIC value.