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Centerfield
Jan 23 2016 04:06 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 23 2016 04:11 AM

So I'm selling these signs that say "Cespedes"...



No really, 3 years per Heyman. Opt out after year 1.

Left money on the table from multiple teams. Crazy.

dgwphotography
Jan 23 2016 04:11 AM
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Ken Rosenthal reporting 3 years for 75

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2016 04:13 AM
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BOOM! Chakalaka.... BOOM!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 23 2016 04:16 AM
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BATMOBILES FOR EY'BODY

Valadius
Jan 23 2016 04:19 AM
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$27.5 million for year one. Glad it got done, but where'd the money come from?

themetfairy
Jan 23 2016 04:24 AM
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Yay!

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 23 2016 04:29 AM
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Valadius wrote:
$27.5 million for year one.... [W]here'd the money come from?


The Mets are probably gonna hafta salary dump Granderson for a minor leaguer and two bags of balls to make room for Yo's contract.

Centerfield
Jan 23 2016 04:29 AM
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How about Washington? Offered more money for Zobrist, Heyward and Cespedes and were jilted each time. Maybe they need a better pick up line.

Holy crap. It will be fascinating to hear how all of this went down.

On SNY, they are saying this is will be the first time a team ended up winning a negotiation with a star player when that team never really wanted him in the first place.

Wilmer cries when he thinks he's traded. Wheeler calls Alderson and asks to stay. And Cespedes leaves millions on the table to come back. Something special going on here.

Zvon
Jan 23 2016 04:30 AM
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WooHoo!

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 23 2016 04:32 AM
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Centerfield wrote:


Wilmer cries when he thinks he's traded. Wheeler calls Alderson and asks to stay. And Cespedes leaves millions on the table to come back. Something special going on here.


You got a point here. Maybe it's the 24 hour Roosevelt Avenue dining scene.

Zvon
Jan 23 2016 04:37 AM
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I don't even give a shit if this somehow goes south. The Mets made THE BIG move!

Gwreck
Jan 23 2016 04:38 AM
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Wow. Just wow.

Fman99
Jan 23 2016 04:52 AM
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We're putting the band back together!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 23 2016 04:53 AM
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Who goes away?

seawolf17
Jan 23 2016 04:56 AM
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You do know that we're going to wake up tomorrow morning and find out that this isn't real and that we've instead signed Carlos Gomez, right?

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2016 04:56 AM
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There are worse morning-after realizations than Carlos Gomez, I guess.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Who goes away?

Initially, Eric Campbell.

De Aza drops from the rotation and becomes a bench player.

Centerfield
Jan 23 2016 04:57 AM
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And you know what? Big fucking thumbs up to Yoenis Cespedes. Huge. Every superstar claims it wasn't about the money at their press conference. Cespedes may be the first to actually mean it.

Fucking awesome. I may be a bit drunk and giddy now, but for me, Cespedes joins Wilmer on the "Guys who will always be good in my book" list.

Centerfield
Jan 23 2016 05:00 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
We're putting the band back together!


Jesus. Poor Murph. Can't we just bring him back too?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 23 2016 05:06 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
And you know what? Big fucking thumbs up to Yoenis Cespedes. Huge. Every superstar claims it wasn't about the money at their press conference. Cespedes may be the first to actually mean it.

Fucking awesome. I may be a bit drunk and giddy now, but for me, Cespedes joins Wilmer on the "Guys who will always be good in my book" list.


My liquor is almost certainly not as ass-kicking as yours, but I'm PRETTY sure this is at least a little bit because he believes in himself a LOT and believes he's due a much bigger deal come this time next year, and if he's going to be somewhere for a pillow-sleepover, he might as WELL be here.

I'm a LOT more comfortable with De Aza at fifth-OF.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 23 2016 05:13 AM
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Smart move all around. Cespedes may be setting himself up for a monster deal if he has a star 2016 and the NL adopts the DH for 2017. If the Nats signed Cespedes, they'd work out their OF logjam for one season only, and would then likely have a star DH for the year after. Plus they're the team the Mets simply have to beat, it would appear. So the Mets improve and simultaneously strike a preemptive.

Centerfield
Jan 23 2016 05:23 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
And you know what? Big fucking thumbs up to Yoenis Cespedes. Huge. Every superstar claims it wasn't about the money at their press conference. Cespedes may be the first to actually mean it.

Fucking awesome. I may be a bit drunk and giddy now, but for me, Cespedes joins Wilmer on the "Guys who will always be good in my book" list.


My liquor is almost certainly not as ass-kicking as yours, but I'm PRETTY sure this is at least a little bit because he believes in himself a LOT and believes he's due a much bigger deal come this time next year, and if he's going to be somewhere for a pillow-sleepover, he might as WELL be here.

I'm a LOT more comfortable with De Aza at fifth-OF.


Fair points. What gave away that he believes in himself? The batmobile or the custom walk-up song?

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2016 05:26 AM
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It's been a few crazy Cespe-days. This is going to be one of those Cespe-nights. Really trying to stay up until the Mets confirm this baby, but I'm guessing official confirmation won't be coming forthwith.

Zvon
Jan 23 2016 05:28 AM
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And look, the Mets are already making their money back!

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Ceetar
Jan 23 2016 05:53 AM
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hungry?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 23 2016 06:40 AM
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Hell, I'm just amazed. So, yeah, stuff the crow in there while my mouth's still agape.

bmfc1
Jan 23 2016 08:15 AM
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Great news. Plus: Washington doesn't get him.

Zvon
Jan 23 2016 08:31 AM
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Ran into this on fb:

Nymr83
Jan 23 2016 10:08 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Smart move all around. Cespedes may be setting himself up for a monster deal if he has a star 2016 and the NL adopts the DH for 2017. If the Nats signed Cespedes, they'd work out their OF logjam for one season only, and would then likely have a star DH for the year after. Plus they're the team the Mets simply have to beat, it would appear. So the Mets improve and simultaneously strike a preemptive.


yup. i wonder how much the DH thing helped this move for both sides?

I really didnt want this guy long term but very happy to have him for a year, everyone wins!

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 23 2016 12:03 PM
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HO. LEE. SHIT.

I'm just getting this news now. I woke up, fed the cats, and then turned on the computer to see the latest weather forecast, but decided first to see if there was any Cespedes news.

I am absolutely stunned. I wasn't expecting this at all. This is fantastic.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 23 2016 12:12 PM
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ESPN.com wrote:
The deal, pending a physical, is for three years and $75 million, including $27.5 million in the first year, after which he can opt out.


WOW!

ESPN.com wrote:
Cespedes' addition raises the team's payroll in 2016 to roughly $140 million, its highest level since Omar Minaya's days as general manager.


WOW again!

It would be a very encouraging sign if the Wilpons let Sandy keep it at this level and there's no corresponding salary purge in the next few weeks.

RealityChuck
Jan 23 2016 12:41 PM
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How about Washington? Offered more money for Zobrist, Heyward and Cespedes and were jilted each time. Maybe they need a better pick up line.

It didn't help that this is was part of their recruiting film:

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2016 01:42 PM
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So let's break this down and flesh it out a bit

- opt-outs are now officially the new black

- if we get the Cespedes of 2013-14 [744 OPS combined] then the team is going to have a lot of disappointed fans on their hands -- THIS ISN'T WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR!!!! -- plus the specter of an expensive contract hanging over their heads for the following two seasons even though the $27.5 salary for '15 becomes slightly cheaper (~$23.5/per) in years 2 & 3

- if we get something more like Cespedes of 2012 + 2015 [~900 OPS] -- to say nothing of Cespedes circa NYM Aug-Sep 2015 (942 OPS) -- then the team will likely have a good season overall (subject to a ton of other factors obviously) but then run the risk that he walks again. Hard to say how likely that is as it's not like there's a huge sample size of opt-out history although I believe the few players who have had them have used them every time (ARod, CC)

- if he doesn't exercise the opt-out it almost certainly means Lagares goes at some point. Maybe they could handle one more year of making him the 4th OF they're not going to hang on to him for long in that role as his contract starts to get more expensive waiting for the Cespedes deal to run out. They could still deal him this winter although I doubt they want to sell low or depend too much on Conforto just yet.

- The other alternative would be to try and trade the final year of Granderson's deal but I think the window on that is closed this year

- looks like they COULD sign Cespedes even despite the existence of the Lagares contract and without the Wright insurance money

d'Kong76
Jan 23 2016 01:47 PM
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Knew he'd be back all along. For my next prediction I'll...

MFS62
Jan 23 2016 02:06 PM
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This snowstorm is a plot by the fucking Yanks to keep the Cespedes signing off the front pages.

Great move.
Great contract.
Sandy for President.

Later

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2016 02:07 PM
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Ran into this on fb:


They left out the Detroit and Chicago bluffs.

Frayed Knot wrote:
- if he doesn't exercise the opt-out it almost certainly means Lagares goes at some point. Maybe they could handle one more year of making him the 4th OF they're not going to hang on to him for long in that role as his contract starts to get more expensive waiting for the Cespedes deal to run out. They could still deal him this winter although I doubt they want to sell low or depend too much on Conforto just yet.

As noted above, there's also the possibility of transitioning Cespedes to DH (should the universal DH come to pass), opening up more room in the outfield for Lagares and Nimmo. Or Conforto or Granderson to DH.

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2016 02:42 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
As noted above, there's also the possibility of transitioning Cespedes to DH (should the universal DH come to pass), opening up more room in the outfield for Lagares and Nimmo. Or Conforto or Granderson to DH.


Yeah, I thought about that after I posted but then didn't tack it on because I don't want to even contemplate life under that fucking rule.

Mex17
Jan 23 2016 02:43 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jan 23 2016 04:36 PM

One very minor issue created by this is that Flores, Plawecki, and/or d'Arnaud are really going to have to put some extra reps in at first base while in Florida. That need would have been alleviated had it been Raburn joining the team as opposed to Yo coming back (not that I am complaining).

That one little thing aside, there are no discernible holes on this team whatsoever. Stellar rotation. Solid lineup. Improved defense. More than respectable bullpen. Deep bench. They ought to be in the top five to compete for the entire ball of wax in 2016.

Let's play some baseball!

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2016 02:47 PM
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Flores needed the reps, anyhow. Second-stringer on both of the corners and third-stringer up the middle works for me.

Mex17
Jan 23 2016 03:05 PM
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One more financial point before we can put that to bed for the season and enjoy some baseball. . .

The pundits have been wrong every step of the way concerning this contract negotiation and now they are all but guaranteeing that this will only be a one year stay and I refuse to take that as gospel! Say this year goes as planned and Yo still loves the team and the city and the Wilpons love what they see on the balance sheet and Alderson is convinced that there would not be a falling off the cliff in production from an age 33 Cespedes. Is it so unreasonable to think that they can all mutually agree on turning the remaining 2 years at $50 million into three years at $66 million (reducing the annual salary from $25 to $22) while also kicking in an additional $9 million in deferred money (say $1 million a year for nine years when he is in his fifties) so that they can say that he has "nine figure contract"?

It's something to think about for next November.

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2016 03:57 PM
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dArnaud and/or Plawecki getting some reps at 1B (or a different position for that matter) is a good idea independent of the Cespedes signing. But I don't expect either to be the first choice in backing up Duda; Flores, Walker, and maybe even Wright would likely be ahead of the catching duo on that front.

The gap in pay between year 1 and years 2 & 3 of the Cespedes deal isn't that great where him opting-out is a given and there's too much time and too many factors between now & November to predict that stuff accurately now.
But, yes, a player using that option as a way to spur a team into renegotiating an extended deal is one of the main benefits of the opt-out. Rod & CC did exactly that with the Yanx (to the team's eventual regret in both cases) and there will certainly be enough opt-outs coming up over the next few years where we'll get to see if that becomes the norm or whether some teams will dare their players to give up the remainder of the contract with the hope that there's a better one somewhere else.

TransMonk
Jan 23 2016 04:55 PM
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The team is better than it was at the end of 2015 (on paper, anyway). As mentioned above, not a lot of holes.

I think it would be hard to say that Sandy hasn't been the best GM in baseball over the past 6 months. Getting Cespedes at the deadline without moving major-leaguers was no small feat...but getting him to re-sign without a long-term deal is a miracle, IMO. All this while battling cancer...hip, hip, hooray!

I can't wait for opening day.

Mex17
Jan 23 2016 05:09 PM
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Heyman confirmed on MLB Network that the Mets get a compensation pick if Yo opts out.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 23 2016 05:47 PM
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Mex17 wrote:
One more financial point before we can put that to bed for the season and enjoy some baseball. . .

The pundits have been wrong every step of the way concerning this contract negotiation and now they are all but guaranteeing that this will only be a one year stay and I refuse to take that as gospel! Say this year goes as planned and Yo still loves the team and the city and the Wilpons love what they see on the balance sheet and Alderson is convinced that there would not be a falling off the cliff in production from an age 33 Cespedes. Is it so unreasonable to think that they can all mutually agree on turning the remaining 2 years at $50 million into three years at $66 million (reducing the annual salary from $25 to $22) while also kicking in an additional $9 million in deferred money (say $1 million a year for nine years when he is in his fifties) so that they can say that he has "nine figure contract"?

It's something to think about for next November.


It might take a lot more than that, especially if Cespedes has a star 2016 season. Yo's opt-out will give him the leverage to force the Mets to renegotiate the last two years big-time in order to keep him. Definitely TBD becuase this has been one of the most unpredictable FA pursuits that I can recall.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 23 2016 05:54 PM
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I'da deducted points for originality if they'd went with Yes-Pedes.

Mex17
Jan 23 2016 05:59 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Mex17 wrote:
One more financial point before we can put that to bed for the season and enjoy some baseball. . .

The pundits have been wrong every step of the way concerning this contract negotiation and now they are all but guaranteeing that this will only be a one year stay and I refuse to take that as gospel! Say this year goes as planned and Yo still loves the team and the city and the Wilpons love what they see on the balance sheet and Alderson is convinced that there would not be a falling off the cliff in production from an age 33 Cespedes. Is it so unreasonable to think that they can all mutually agree on turning the remaining 2 years at $50 million into three years at $66 million (reducing the annual salary from $25 to $22) while also kicking in an additional $9 million in deferred money (say $1 million a year for nine years when he is in his fifties) so that they can say that he has "nine figure contract"?

It's something to think about for next November.


It might take a lot more than that, especially if Cespedes has a star 2016 season. Yo's opt-out will give him the leverage to force the Mets to renegotiate the last two years big-time in order to keep him. Definitely TBD becuase this has been one of the most unpredictable FA pursuits that I can recall.


Upton is signed at $22 million a season through his age 33 season (he got his 6 year contract when he is two years younger than Yo is now). You can use that to say that this is how far you stretch it out to. It's too bad for Yo but the fact is that he loses a little bit from having been stuck in Cuba when other players were able to start their clock earlier.

Lefty Specialist
Jan 23 2016 06:08 PM
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Wow. Wasn't even paying attention to Mets news with the snow.

Bought a Cespedes World Series shirsey on a lark when Modell's was clearing them out for 5 bucks. Turned out to be a good investment.

It's just so weird seeing the Mets behave like a real major league team.....

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2016 06:40 PM
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Mex is right in the sense that what players with options usually want in a renegotiation is to tack-on years to their deal rather than to merely up the per/year money on seasons already negotiated.



It's too bad for Yo but the fact is that he loses a little bit from having been stuck in Cuba when other players were able to start their clock earlier.


Yeah, but then he also got to use his FA status coming into MLB to force his way to FA-gency after just four seasons instead of having to wait six so that partially makes up for it.
Upton simply came up younger than almost anyone (foreign or American) so he gets to be a younger FA than most too.
And just wait three years for Harper, Bryce: he'll hit the FA market just two weeks after turning 26, nearly two and a half years younger than J Upton is now and only about six months older than A. Rodriguez back when he signed his deal w/Texas.

old original jb
Jan 23 2016 07:57 PM
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I had to come back when this happened.

Up until now, almost all of the Mets' offseason moves were focused on players who were Workmanlike to a Stevetrachselonian degree.

Cespedes signing--that's different.

themetfairy
Jan 23 2016 08:16 PM
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old original jb wrote:
I had to come back when this happened.

Up until now, almost all of the Mets' offseason moves were focused on players who were Workmanlike to a Stevetrachselonian degree.

Cespedes signing--that's different.



Welcome back jb!

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2016 11:06 PM
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Dear Mets,

It's a few feet of snow out there and all, but if there's anything I can do to speed up this whole physical thing, let me know.

Love,

Edgy

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2016 11:21 PM
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[fimg=700:nqcfats2]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/mancrush.png[/fimg:nqcfats2]

Zvon
Jan 23 2016 11:25 PM
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#mymancrushisback


lol.

Nymr83
Jan 23 2016 11:35 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Dear Mets,

It's a few feet of snow out there and all, but if there's anything I can do to speed up this whole physical thing, let me know.

Love,

Edgy


I'm waiting for the Megdal arrticle.... THE WILPONS ARE TEH SUCKIEST! WHY NOT WORK HARDER TO GET CESPEDES TO PHYSICAL???? THEY ARE TOO CHEAP!

Lefty Specialist
Jan 23 2016 11:50 PM
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I love Syndergaard. He's like a fan who can throw 100-MPH fastballs.

themetfairy
Jan 24 2016 10:12 PM
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Zvon
Jan 25 2016 02:34 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
[fimg=400]https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12548883_10208263294041443_2775297157975896841_n.jpg?oh=ccf67294ec19d3a365c3dd714b97dab6&oe=5743226C[/fimg]

lolol, classic. You make that? I'd like to share it.

themetfairy
Jan 25 2016 02:40 AM
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Zvon wrote:
themetfairy wrote:
[fimg=400]https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12548883_10208263294041443_2775297157975896841_n.jpg?oh=ccf67294ec19d3a365c3dd714b97dab6&oe=5743226C[/fimg]

lolol, classic. You make that? I'd like to share it.


I did not. I shared it on Facebook from Howie Hirsch's post (I don't know him personally).

These stick figure creations are suddenly ubiquitous on Facebook, but this one made me laugh (especially the inclusion of the Rally Parakeet ).

Zvon
Jan 25 2016 03:14 AM
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There's a generator that makes these that's making the rounds on fb. I can't find the link atm. I could tell this was a spoof of one of those.
Yea, the parakeet makes it.

themetfairy
Jan 25 2016 04:09 AM
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Zvon wrote:
There's a generator that makes these that's making the rounds on fb. I can't find the link atm.


Is This It?

Zvon
Jan 25 2016 04:49 AM
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Yes.

I don't like any that came up for me so far. None fit.

Zvon
Jan 25 2016 04:56 AM
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[fimg=500:1oy73ffw]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-laxM3zVSg_4/VqWp-UIfmOI/AAAAAAAAk24/9MaKqUk7SSU/s966-Ic42/ThisIsWarren001.png[/fimg:1oy73ffw]
I just got this one but I had a colorblind friend and I always asked what color he saw.
I thought it was artistic curiosity but maybe I was just being a dick.

El Segundo Escupidor
Jan 25 2016 09:17 PM
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This thread needs a musical compliment:

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Benjamin Grimm
Jan 26 2016 12:52 AM
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According to Mets Hot Stove, the physical will take place tomorrow (Tuesday).

Edgy MD
Jan 26 2016 01:59 AM
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And according to Mike "It Ain't About the Sneakers" Puma, the Twins are fishing around for Carlos Torres.

Centerfield
Jan 26 2016 03:43 PM
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Per Heyman, the deal from the Nats was 4 years, 100 million, plus the opt out. Some money deferred, but man that is really a lot of money to walk away from.

Vic Sage
Jan 26 2016 04:48 PM
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yippee!
I'm as happy as a little girl >.>.

Zvon
Jan 27 2016 01:33 AM
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Valadius
Jan 27 2016 02:42 AM
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It's official!

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 27 2016 03:14 AM
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@Mets wrote:
It’s official! We’ve signed outfielder @ynscspds to a three-year contract. #Mets #GotYoBack

d'Kong76
Jan 27 2016 03:16 AM
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#cpftoocool

themetfairy
Jan 27 2016 03:17 AM
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To quote Studious Metsimus, Yo Gotta Believe!

RealityChuck
Jan 27 2016 03:19 AM
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No problems with his hip? If that had come up, I think there would be tears.

And here's an analysis of the Nationals' offer to Cespedis. It seems that the $100 million figure included a lot of deferred money, so the net present value of the offer was $77 million. That only slightly more than the $75 million the Mets are paying.*

The Nationals are caught in a financial bind over TV rights fees. It's nothing like Madoff, but it forced them to have to offer deferred payments to the free agents this year, meaning they were actually paying less than they claimed to be offering.

*I don't pretend to understand NPV, but it calculates on the basis that money in the hand is worth more than money down the road. The Mets contract is actually slightly less than $75 million using NPV, since it's over three years.

Ceetar
Jan 27 2016 02:02 PM
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Zvon wrote:



Bartolo is on record saying the NL should have the DH.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 27 2016 04:07 PM
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HOW much does Yo heart NY? Cespedes negged two teams to be with us, according to Heyman.

Baltimore had a five-year offer on the table, says Heyman, but it was obviously turned down... But it hasn’t been reported what kind of guarantee and payout structure was involved in the O’s offer.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 27 2016 04:19 PM
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But... do we know that Cespedes turned down an offer from Baltimore? It's possible that it was withdrawn while he was still considering it.

Edgy MD
Jan 27 2016 07:44 PM
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Not that I think it makes much differmints, but Heyman reports that it was still on the la mesa.

Mex17
Jan 27 2016 11:55 PM
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Just listened to the conference call. The agent went out of his way to make it very clear that Yo is NOT looking at this as only a one-year deal!!

Frayed Knot
Jan 28 2016 01:47 AM
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Of course he did.
And he may actually mean it.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 28 2016 04:40 AM
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What Yespedes means for the New York Mets and their owners
By Howard Megdal 7:16 a.m. | Jan. 26, 2016

EXCERPT:

Well, with the Cespedes 2016 contract number at a reported $27.5 million, the Mets will have a payroll north of $140 million. It still isn't remarkable by MLB standards, placing them somewhere around ninth in the league by 2015 standards, but no longer is the contrast between revenue and payroll so vast, and no longer is the team's roster starved of what it needs at a moment it can best take advantage of generational young talent.

Ultimately, the years-long story of Mets ownership, Bernie Madoff and the lies that followed mattered only to the extent it led to a Mets team that operated primarily, if not exclusively, as a cash machine for ownership, rather than as a baseball team. If the Mets owners are taking in enough money to siphon off a bunch of it for their still-enormous debts, but still fielding a competitive baseball team financially, it really doesn't matter to fans, nor is it much of a story. And merely the ability to sign Cespedes is a welcome sign that the Mets at least have the capability to do this, though how fleeting that capability is, and how dependent on postseason revenues, is still a great unknown.

If the Cespedes contract—a rare moment where the Mets, given a chance, significantly improved their team with nothing more than a huge outlay of money—is the new way the team is doing business, payroll will continue to rise accordingly. The young pitchers will be more expensive in the years to come, and a basic cost of doing business in MLB will be to extend at least some of them. Should Cespedes opt out, the Mets will need to sign him again, or replace him offensively. A return to even the 2015 payroll of $110 million would represent a continuing of the post-Madoff reality so many hope the Mets shattered Friday night, given the players on this team and what great talent costs.

But that is for next offseason. And for now, the Mets have increased their payroll by approximately $30 million—nearly all of that increase coming in an 11th-hour acquisition of the team's best offensive player in 2015, all of which set off riotous celebration in a fan base that had come to believe such things were no longer possible.


http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/c ... eir-owners

MFS62
Jan 28 2016 04:48 AM
Re: CESPEDES SIGNS!!!

Gee, Howie waited to the second paragraph to mention Madoff.
Here's the key sentence to me:
If the Mets owners are taking in enough money to siphon off a bunch of it for their still-enormous debts, but still fielding a competitive baseball team financially, it really doesn't matter to fans, nor is it much of a story.


So, Howie, you finally realized it. Now, STFU and go find another story line.

Later

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 28 2016 05:15 AM
Re: CESPEDES SIGNS!!!

Gee, Howie waited to the second paragraph to mention Madoff.
Here's the key sentence to me:
If the Mets owners are taking in enough money to siphon off a bunch of it for their still-enormous debts, but still fielding a competitive baseball team financially, it really doesn't matter to fans, nor is it much of a story.


So, Howie, you finally realized it. Now, STFU and go find another story line.

Later


If you're interested in this sort of stuff, Madoff isn't mentioned until the 11th paragraph. The above quote is merely an excerpt.
And what is it that Megdal finally realized (after the Mets finally started spending)?

MFS62
Jan 28 2016 01:39 PM
Re: CESPEDES SIGNS!!!

What I bolded.
Megdal has been a one trick pony, and now he admits that trick doesn't matter to the fans any more.



Later

Lefty Specialist
Jan 28 2016 03:08 PM
Re: CESPEDES SIGNS!!!

Boy, he needs an editor. Those run-on sentences, full of commas, needed or unneeded, made my head hurt.