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Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 18 2016 03:56 PM

Eagles guitarist Glen Frey, according to a potentially accurate tweet. When I was attending Mizzou in the mid-80s, the team adopted "The Heat is On" as a theme song -- and it was played over and over in the dorm.

Frayed Knot Jan 18 2016 04:12 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

TMZ reported Frey's death some 30 minutes ago (and, as mockable as that outfit is, they don't seem to get a lot wrong) from "a combination of complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis, and pneumonia." I had previously heard of the intestinal problems which led to canceled appearances and such over the last year. 67 y/o

TransMonk Jan 18 2016 04:30 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Very surprised he went before Randy Meisner. All in all, he seemed as big an asshole as any other Eagle...but they couldn't have been the Eagles without him. They are a very polarizing band, but undoubtedly influential and popular. RIP

Edgy MD Jan 18 2016 04:54 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

TransMonk wrote: Very surprised he went before Randy Meisner. Yeah, I was thinking the same. Mr. Muscle is outlived not only by Meisner, but by Joe Walsh and Linda Ronstadt.

cooby classic Jan 18 2016 06:09 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Um, I always kinda like Randy Meisner, so why do you say that?

Frayed Knot Jan 18 2016 07:16 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Um, I always kinda like Randy Meisner, so why do you say that? From Wikipedia (so you know it's true): Meisner has struggled on-and-off with alcohol and drug addictions since the late 1960s, especially during his tenure with the Eagles, as he struggled to deal with his newfound fame. He later credited his drug use as one of the main reasons for his first marriage failing, and subsequently stayed sober for a prolonged period of time in the late 1980s. He has since relapsed on several occasions. The abuse eventually took a toll on Meisner's health, and following minor heart attacks in 2004 he was forced to cut back on touring. As his health continued to deterioate, he eventually stopped performing, with his final performance being in 2008 in Naples, Florida. In March 2013, Meisner suffered yet another health scare after losing consciousness in his California home. A piece of food obstructed his breathing while he was eating, and he was rushed to the hospital. Doctors were optimistic about his recovery, but in his weakened state, Meisner could not accept the invitation to participate in the History of the Eagles tour alongside fellow ex-bandmate Bernie Leadon, who participated on the tour. The incident damaged his vocal cords, leaving him with weakened voice and speech. In April 2015, Meisner and his wife denied rumours that she was taking advantage of his known addictions to alcohol and drugs, trying to force-feed him bottles of vodka to keep him drunk, in response to the singer's longtime friend, James Newton, filing papers in April asking that Meisner be placed under a court-supervised conservatorship governing both his personal and financial matters.[46] Despite this, three months later, the Los Angeles County Superior Court appointed a temporary conservator to oversee the 24-hour management of Meisner's drug prescriptions and medical state, after he was diagnosed as bipolar and suicidal. Meisner had allegedly threatened to kill himself, his wife and several others with an AK-47. IOW, if one were to have placed a bet on the first deceased Eagle, Meisner would have looked like the safe bet prior to Frey beating him to the punch ... not that this was the first incident of Frey punching Meisner.

Edgy MD Jan 18 2016 09:21 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

I like Meisner too. No Henley or Frey vocal could touch what he brought on "Take It to the Limit." Say what you want about Glenn Frey, the man knew how to wear his baseball pants.

Frayed Knot Jan 18 2016 10:38 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

TransMonk wrote: All in all, he seemed as big an asshole as any other Eagle...but they couldn't have been the Eagles without him. He certainly came off as a stone-cold killer in that (authorized) film bio that we've discussed several times here. I suppose stuff like that is inevitable as things morph from the youthful and '60s idealism of 'Hey let's start a band and land some chicks!!', to being middle-aged guys with the mindset of: 'This is MY band and it represents MY legacy and funds MY retirement and will be MY children's inheritance, so if any of you hired hands types don't like the direction things are taking or the schedule we've laid out then we'll just find someone else to play your instrument or sing your part'. Of course it doesn't mean you have to be such a dick about it.

cooby classic Jan 19 2016 05:15 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Wow, I did not know that about Randy Meisner's health problems. As for his voice -- what Edgy said.

Edgy MD Jan 19 2016 08:54 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

I've heard legends of that famed Rolling Stone/Eagles grudge match softball game, but that photo above is the first time I've noticed that the Eags brought in Peter Cetera as a ringer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 19 2016 09:12 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

I am the man Who will beef up your order I bring a big bat when you fight with the Stones Hitting grand-slammers, Wearing bandanas And I did it all for the glory of ball

Frayed Knot Jan 19 2016 09:16 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Frey, btw, looks like he tips the scales at about 140 in that pic.

seawolf17 Jan 19 2016 09:21 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Edgy MD wrote: I've heard legends of that famed Rolling Stone/Eagles grudge match softball game, but that photo above is the first time I've noticed that the Eags brought in Peter Cetera as a ringer. Peter Cetera is in his 70s. I am stunned by that.

MFS62 Jan 19 2016 09:23 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I've heard legends of that famed Rolling Stone/Eagles grudge match softball game, but that photo above is the first time I've noticed that the Eags brought in Peter Cetera as a ringer. Peter Cetera is in his 70s. I am stunned by that. And he will still fight for your honor. Later

Edgy MD Jan 19 2016 10:37 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

I am the man Who will beef up your order I bring a big bat when you fight with the Stones Hitting grand-slammers, Wearing bandanas And I did it all for the glory of ball That big Eagles grudge match wasn't with the Rolling Stones, but the Rolling Stone magazine editorial staff, who the Eagles (probably Frey, mostly) were pissed at RS for slagging them one too many times. Rolling Stone accepted the challenge, figuring they'd lay out some bases in Central Park and get a funny sidebar story out of it, but instead the Eagles had them flown to LA for a surreal match before a packed house at Dedeaux Field. Eagles won pretty big and the feud was settled. [list]Slugging homers through the sky! Hunter Thompson starts to cry! Watch me slam another hit! In comes Azoff, Walsh, and Schmitt! Henley's laughing at the score! 25 or 6 to 4![/list:u]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 19 2016 10:48 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

In my defense I composed that message in a meeting. #multitask

Edgy MD Jan 19 2016 10:53 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Can't go wrong with "The Glory of Love."

Mets Willets Point Jan 19 2016 10:57 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Eagles vs. the Stones wouldn't have been fair at all considering that there's probably no pickup softball tradition in England.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 20 2016 09:04 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Not to speak ill of the dead, but Frey was responsible for all my least favorite Eagles songs. His death was a shock however because I didn;t even know he was sick. I don't know anything about Buffin but like Mott the Hoople.

Centerfield Jan 20 2016 09:49 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

It seems impossible to me that Glenn Frey was only 67 years old. I was too young to hear their stuff when it first came out, so when I heard it in the 80's it was already "classic rock". For a kid, it seemed like the music had been around forever. When they did "Hell Freezes Over", they seemed so old. But looking at his bio, he was only 46 at the time. Crazy. Hard to believe these guys are around my age. I would have guessed Frey would be well into his 70's by now.

Frayed Knot Jan 20 2016 10:44 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Centerfield wrote: I would have guessed Frey would be well into his 70's by now. The Eagles didn't really show up until the '70s (debut in '71) which puts them the better part of a decade behind the Beatles/Stones et al. Ringo, the oldest Beatle, turned 75 last summer; George (the youngest) would have turned 72 in a few weeks. Also Dylan, 75 later this year, etc. So you can't quite put the Eagles in the same class with those seniors. Other 67 y/o rock stars: James Taylor (1970 debut) - 67; Steven Tyler - 67; Steve Winwood (although he started ridiculously young); Cat Stevens, Robert Plant; Jackson Brown (Frey's one-time roommate); At 66 you get Springsteen, Billy Joel, and others who also didn't start until the '70s

themetfairy Jan 20 2016 10:46 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Frayed Knot wrote: At 66 you get Springsteen I'm not a huge Springsteen fan, but I have to say this - he is in amazing shape for a 66-year-old guy!

d'Kong76 Jan 20 2016 11:23 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Depending on how energetic a performance one puts on and the amount of travel I suppose a lot of these guys are in better shape than others their age. Mick Jagger could probably dance circles around me while I gasp for air and some water. Can anyone recap why The Eagles are arguably the least popular band on this forum?

TransMonk Jan 20 2016 11:29 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

d'Kong76 Jan 20 2016 11:34 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Timothy Schmit was in the celebrity crowd at the Monday Knicks' matinee. Don't remember seeing him like some of the regulars but maybe he's a New Yorker now?

Edgy MD Jan 20 2016 11:37 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

He says he's fed up with the Knicks, but every time he tries to walk away, something makes him turn around and stay. Not sure why.

d'Kong76 Jan 20 2016 11:40 AM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

I certainly can't tell you why. (he's got some voice on that song)

Mets Willets Point Jan 20 2016 12:55 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

reats.

d'Kong76 Jan 20 2016 01:17 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

I dunno, maybe I'm not remembering correctly.

TransMonk Jan 20 2016 02:13 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

There's a discussion of the 2013 Eagles history movie here: http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/2030 ... 0307.shtml complete with a Linda Ronstadt photo spread. There's a Don Henley spread there, too. Extra points if you can find the hidden shot of Lindsay Buckingham. I certainly weigh in on my thoughts of them as a band.

Vic Sage Jan 20 2016 02:25 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

...complete with a Linda Ronstadt photo spread. you're welcome.

Edgy MD Jan 21 2016 08:28 AM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

The Daily News, which has frankly gone insane, gets two days of cover editorials — the first being an "Eagles Suck" story, the second being the same author declaring himself "the most hated man in America," because of alleged death threats he's gotten from Eagles fans.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 21 2016 12:08 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Vic Sage wrote: ...complete with a Linda Ronstadt photo spread. you're welcome. I remember that thread because as a result, I went and revisited the Linda Rondstadt songbook for a couple of days. Boy could she sing. Check this out. It's live. No auto-tune. [youtube]OMy8GzeHBGk[/youtube]

Edgy MD Jan 21 2016 08:13 PM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

Part of my first response to news of Frey's passing was shock that rheumatoid arthritis can become fatal. Than I read further that he had ulcerated colitis and pneumonia, and I thought, well, pneumonia can kill anybody. But then famed manager Irving Azoff comes out today with the news that these last two conditions were a product of treating the first. “The colitis and pneumonia were side effects from all the meds,” Azoff said. “He died from complications of ulcer and colitis after being treated with drugs for his rheumatoid arthritis which he had for over 15 years.” And I'm thinking, say what you will about Glenn Frey (and I have), but he may have killed himself to keep playing music.

Frayed Knot Jan 22 2016 08:54 AM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

I guess every form of refuge has its price. Which isn't to say that one shouldn't take medication for something that prevents you from doing what you want, but there is a cautionary note here about our American tendency towards over-medicating. RA (as RA sufferers call it) is one of the conditions my mother had in her later years, a symptom that came out of nowhere right after my sister's death. Her doctors told her that there's zero evidence that RA can be stress-caused but they also admit that they see it too often to totally dismiss it either. Also no evidence that RA or the meds she took for it contributed to the symptoms that eventually killed her, but it probably didn't help.

RealityChuck Jan 22 2016 09:44 PM Re: Guess Who Died in 2016

Mets – Willets Point wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: Can anyone recap why The Eagles are arguably the least popular band on this forum? I thought it was just me who hates the Eagles. And to be honest my hate is based mostly on the band being overplayed and that I've encountered way too many people who act is if this merely good band is one of the all-time greats. In the beginning the Eagles were a second-rate Poco. But once they added Joe Walsh, the turned into a pretty good band.

Frayed Knot Jan 23 2016 08:00 AM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

There was also a sizable sect of rock-n-rollers, particularly among urban easterners, who railed against the mellow-er 'California sound' as something that was insufficiently R-n-R. Not that they invented that genre (Byrds, Poco, Browne, Rondstadt, etc.) but that they eventually became the most successful at it meant that they became the biggest target. As mentioned, the addition of Walsh gave them a grittier sound as they consciously tried to steer away from the country-rock image of their early albums, although it's not like that tamed all the critics either.

Frayed Knot Jan 31 2016 07:59 PM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

btw, was there anyone who had more 'looks' over the years than Don Henley? Recently re-watched that Eagles documentary (CNN of all places has picked it up) and have watched Henley go from Texas teen, to California long-haired rocker, to his curly perm and beard phase, to his clean-shaven look but with the voluminous hair and pony-tail, to the close-cropped hair w/the trim goatee, and probably a bunch more in between that I'm missing here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 31 2016 09:43 PM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, was there anyone who had more 'looks' over the years than Don Henley? "A-hem."

Edgy MD Jan 31 2016 09:49 PM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

Or better yet... "a-hem:

Frayed Knot Feb 10 2016 11:43 AM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Joe Walsh, Timothy Schmit, and Jackson Browne to join up for a Glenn Frey tribute during this week's Grammy awards.

Frayed Knot Mar 07 2016 07:43 AM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

We discussed ex-Eagle Randy Meisner's substance and mental health problems up this thread a bit. Well now comes this story out of California (although not from a hotel): The wife of Eagles co-founder Randy Meisner was fatally shot Sunday night at the couple’s home in Los Angeles, police said. LAPD officers visited their Studio City home earlier in the evening before Meisner, 69, called them back later to report the Lana Rae Meisner, 63, had been shot in the head, law enforcement sources told RadarOnline. The musician told police his wife shot herself or was killed by accident, as she searched for something in the closet, according to the site. I suspect I'm not alone in thinking that the 'accident' explanation probably has a short shelf-life.

Edgy MD Mar 07 2016 08:35 AM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

Horrible end to a scary marriage.

cooby classic Mar 07 2016 11:34 AM Re: You'll Have to Eat Your Lunch All by Yourself (spl. fr/G

Now let's see if his health improves