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Ancestry DNA

cooby classic Jan 25 2016 02:17 PM

Have mine and hubby's all set to mail in today! What I already know: English, Irish, German Maybe: Native American Can't wait to see if there is anything else in my muttly pedigree :D

Benjamin Grimm Jan 25 2016 03:56 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

They say that most humans alive today are about three percent Neanderthal. Let's see if you come in higher or lower than that!

d'Kong76 Jan 25 2016 04:00 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I'd like to do this one day since I don't know anything about my birth father's side. I'm German and Lithuanian so far as I know on my Mom's side.

themetfairy Jan 25 2016 04:25 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

My kids would be the biggest mutts ever.

cooby classic Jan 25 2016 04:35 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Reading through reviews has been helpful...a lot of folks who are sure they are all British Isles are complaining that it is showing Scandinavian blood...people are gently reminding them of the Viking invasions. Good to know though.

d'Kong76 Jan 25 2016 04:42 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I could deal with some Viking and Neanderthal heritage! Arggggg!

cooby classic Jan 25 2016 05:02 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Lol

cooby classic Mar 02 2016 01:42 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

"DNA sample for the activation code: xxxxxxxxxcxxxxxxc We’re busy running your DNA through the lab and expect to have your results ready in 3 to 5 weeks from this stage in the process. We’ll send you an email when your results are ready. Check the status of your test here. Want to see what happens to your DNA in the lab? Learn more here" The learn more video is pretty cool. It's taking longer than I expected but I think they prolly got a lot of tests after the holidays. And apparently the more they have the better

cooby classic Mar 12 2016 02:15 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Mr Cooby got his yesterday so hopefully I'll get mine soon!

Benjamin Grimm Mar 12 2016 02:26 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

So how Neanderthal is he?

cooby classic Mar 12 2016 03:55 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Not at all :(

d'Kong76 Mar 12 2016 04:00 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I haven't done this yet, but I have to say I'll be bummed if I don't have any Neanderthal, Viking, or Native American at all. I'm really pulling for Native American, I'm already a caveman at heart.

cooby classic Mar 12 2016 04:49 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

He has some Scandinavian, but less than we expected, considering our last name means "Viking Ship" in Norse. They have him down for 1%. The biggest surprise was 6% Italian/Greek and 3% Iberian Peninsula. But I guess that explains his very dark eyes. I am so excited to get mine

Mets Willets Point Mar 12 2016 04:56 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

d'Kong76 wrote: I haven't done this yet, but I have to say I'll be bummed if I don't have any Neanderthal, Viking, or Native American at all. I'm really pulling for Native American, I'm already a caveman at heart. Then you too can be offended by Geico ads.

cooby classic Mar 13 2016 02:19 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Europe100% • Europe West48% • Great Britain43% • Trace Regions 9% • Europe East4% • Scandinavia2% • Italy/Greece2% • Ireland1% • Iberian Peninsula< 1% Ireland 1% !!! Talk about a surprise! Italy/Greece is even more of a surprise.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 13 2016 02:35 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

The Trace Regions are especially beautiful in the autumn.

cooby classic Mar 13 2016 03:17 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I'll bet. But so is my backyard :( I've gone my entire life saying I was at least 1/4 Irish, so this is a bit of a blow

Frayed Knot Mar 13 2016 06:58 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Your Irish roots may still be real, this just may mean that your forebears came to Ireland from some place else. That these tests are able (or at least claim to be) to distinguish between say British & Irish & western European genetics doesn't account for whatever movement went on between those nearby regions and the odds that there was some at some point would be the rule rather than the exception. As far as how you want to think of your heritage going forward, I suppose it all depends whether you think the genetics or the culture matters more. I tend to be from the school that thinks both of those things start to diminish in importance once you're more than a generation or two removed from whatever the "old country" was, but opinions do vary.

Edgy MD Mar 13 2016 10:23 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Yeah, your Irish may be hidden those numbers for the Iberian peninsula or Scandinavia. Apparently, in the end, we're all Ethiopes.

Frayed Knot Mar 20 2016 12:59 AM Re: Ancestry DNA

More on sex with Neanderthals and other not-quite-our-brand of human critters. .. a study recently published in JOURNAL OF SCIENCE -- confirms early theories that our human ancestors interbred with other hominins after they left Africa more than 50,000 years ago. "What was surprising from our study is that it revealed the history of contact with Neanderthals was more complicated than previously anticipated," [U of Wash Evolutionary Geneticist Joshua] Akey said. And those sexual encounters may have played an important role in bestowing humans with biology that impacts our skin and hair, giving us infection-fighting advantages. "Many of these genes are involved in immunity and likely helped our ancestors fight new pathogens that they were exposed to as they dispersed into new environments," ... The research discovered that all non-Africans who were analyzed in the study had traces of Neanderthal, and different groups from Europe, Asia and Melanesia had distinctive blends of Neanderthal genes, which likely means humans repeatedly ran into these hominins DADDY!!!! [fimg=300]http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Future-Mother-of-Cloned-Neanderthal-Man-Sought-After-by-Harvard-Geneticist-2.jpg[/fimg]

d'Kong76 Mar 11 2017 01:30 AM Re: Ancestry DNA

So, has anyone else done this DNA thing? I want to get the ball rolling over the weekend. Is ancestrydotcom the way to go?

Chad Ochoseis Mar 11 2017 03:01 AM Re: Ancestry DNA

I did 23andme, and it's fine. They provide a long list of likely biological relatives. I contacted one of them and she turned out to have been a long lost cousin of my mother's. Also, I found out that my father had a first cousin who was a sperm donor in the 1960s. So I have a rather large number of biological second cousins on the site, including this person. The DNA sites tend to show a lot of false positives for close relatives if you're descended from a small group of people that historically tended not to intermarry, such as Ashkenazi Jews (or French Canadians, or Amish, etc.). So some of the people whom I've contacted who showed up as second cousins don't have much of a connection to me at all. Ashkenazi Jewish 95.1% Southern European 0.6% Balkan 0.1% Broadly Southern European 0.5% Broadly European 2.6% Middle Eastern 0.8% North African 0.5% Broadly Middle Eastern & North African< 0.1% East Asian & Native American < 0.1% Oceanian < 0.1%

d'Kong76 Mar 11 2017 03:44 AM Re: Ancestry DNA

Thanks, that was the other one I was thinking of and will probably go with. I drift in and out of wanting to know more about this because I didn't know my father (plus he was adopted at least according to what my Mom told me) and with this 'new' science I'd like to know more? If something interesting came up on my Mom's side I may be interested in looking people up. My father's side not so much although I probably have some have half bro/sis's out there which kinda weirds me out a little.

Frayed Knot Mar 11 2017 01:22 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Of course it's not like everyone's DNA is on file and accessible to these private companies (at least not Yet!) so you're only going to find unknown relatives if they happen to also participate in the same program. Absent that you'll just get the broad ethnic likelihood of your origins like the breakdown Chad shows for him, one which will give you a pretty good idea of the where but not the who or the when. Ancestry-dot-com is a subscription service which gives you access to public databases where you can look for others whose family trees intersect with yours (they also have a DNA testing option). The problem with that approach from your end is that, between your common last name and the fact that you appear to have very few specifics to begin with, you'd be in needle in haystack territory before you even begin. I've got an aunt who dove head-long into that rabbit-hole a couple of years ago searching for 2nd & 3rd cousins that she never knew and in some cases never left Europe, but she already knew a lot about the family to begin with so putting those names into the tree she was building led to connections to names she didn't know about and info about them (census results, immigration manifests, birth/marriage/death records) which in turn led to even more names, etc.

d'Kong76 Mar 11 2017 02:08 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I guess the where from my birth father's side is really enough at this point. It would be cool (to me) if something surprising came up like a small percentage Native American or whatever. I don't even really know my father's last name is his real last name or his foster parents. Maybe I have some labradoodle in me.

seawolf17 Mar 11 2017 02:09 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

We've had a pretty good amount of success on Ancestry, and we did the DNA thing recently through them too. Really just confirmed what we already figured, but still, it was neat.

Chad Ochoseis Mar 11 2017 05:28 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Frayed Knot wrote: The problem with that approach from your end is that, between your common last name and the fact that you appear to have very few specifics to begin with, you'd be in needle in haystack territory before you even begin. I've got an aunt who dove head-long into that rabbit-hole a couple of years ago searching for 2nd & 3rd cousins that she never knew and in some cases never left Europe, but she already knew a lot about the family to begin with so putting those names into the tree she was building led to connections to names she didn't know about and info about them (census results, immigration manifests, birth/marriage/death records) which in turn led to even more names, etc. Kase's odds are better because he's male and has his father's Y chromosome. I've never understood the science behind this, but the X chromosome that a woman inherits from her father is useless for ancestry tracking. So a woman's DNA is only good for matrilineal ancestry, but a man can get his mother's and his father's side. My girlfriend is in a similar situation and has tried to track down her father based only on the fact that she knows his (very common) name and that he was in the Danish Merchant Marine, and that her mother was a barmaid in Brooklyn Heights when she was conceived. She's gone down multiple rabbit holes on ancestry.com without much luck. Not being able to trace her patrilineal DNA sux.

Frayed Knot Mar 11 2017 09:34 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I was thinking more about just the records and trees part of 'Ancestry' where, if one has very few names and details to begin with, the odds of finding links that'll take you to additional names become pretty darn small. Going the DNA route it'll just be a matter of luck as to whether any unknown relatives happen to also participate. d'Kong76 wrote: I guess the where from my birth father's side is really enough at this point. Then just step right up and spit into the cup (or however they handle it).

Frayed Knot Mar 12 2017 07:57 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

An article in today's (@failing) New York Times (sad!) on a topic I think I mentioned in one or the other DNA threads we've had here in the last year to so, the disappointment or disillusionment some have when the results of their DNA test doesn't match their pre-assumed identity.

metirish Mar 16 2017 02:40 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

My last name is Coen and I have often wondered if there was nay Jewish linage , I got a pretty definitive answer . Good morning Connor I will have to disappoint you and say there is no relationship from Coen and the Irish Cohen's that I know of to the Hebrews of Ireland. If you search https://familysearch.org/ for Ireland there are thousands of Cohens and similar spellings of same. So go figure where it all started from. A search of he origin of Irish names may prove useful and a definitive answer could be in a DNA test looking for a Jewish gene. Sorry about that. In the mean time I thank you for making contact. Kind regards Stuart Rosenblatt Facilitator http://www.irishjewishroots.com/names/ http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/ ... -1.2328592

d'Kong76 Mar 16 2017 02:42 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

My spit kit is in the mail, should be here the next day or so.

Frayed Knot Mar 16 2017 04:52 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I will have to disappoint you and say there is no relationship from Coen and the Irish Cohen's that I know of to the Hebrews of Ireland. If you search https://familysearch.org/ for Ireland there are thousands of Cohens and similar spellings of same. So go figure where it all started from. Not sure if you were following the Mets back when David Cone first came up but he later told stories about how, particularly during his first off-season, he would get invited to every Bar Mitzvah and Jewish center in New York as a celebrity guest or speaker. At least some of that was apparently from folks who merely heard his name but not necessarily the spelling, while others may have just assumed it was an alternate spelling. In truth his family's original name was, IIRC, O'Cone, making him one of your tribe, and as a boy growing up in Missouri it probably never occurred to him that his future would involve a bunch of New Yorkers wondering how far he went in Hebrew School.

metirish Mar 16 2017 05:08 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I wasn't following the Mets then but totally get it. I am asked often of I am Jewish( work in health care), and an Irish born Jew at that, it is rare these days.

Edgy MD Mar 16 2017 09:57 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

The Irish Constitution is a rarity in that it originally explicitly established the rights of the nation's Jewish citizens. It's the sort of thing that should have gone without saying, but it was 1937.

MFS62 Mar 17 2017 12:49 AM Re: Ancestry DNA

Frayed Knot wrote: Not sure if you were following the Mets back when David Cone first came up but he later told stories about how, particularly during his first off-season, he would get invited to every Bar Mitzvah and Jewish center in New York as a celebrity guest or speaker. At least some of that was apparently from folks who merely heard his name but not necessarily the spelling, while others may have just assumed it was an alternate spelling. When I first heard Elio Chacon's name, I thought it was Eliosha Cohen. Later

d'Kong76 Mar 23 2017 03:14 AM Re: Ancestry DNA

My spit will be in tomorrow's mail.

Frayed Knot Apr 12 2017 11:43 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Women's using Ancestry.com finds man using dead relative's identity. This damn modern technology is making it tougher and tougher to steal a dead person's identity these days. That move was a staple of crime and spy novels for years, 'Day of the Jackal' amongst others.

themetfairy May 26 2017 01:45 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Fun Fact - I am 96% European Jewish, 3% Caucasus and 1% other. No big surprises there. Less Fun Fact - These motherfuckers hold onto your credit card information, even after your order is complete. They will not let you delete it, and when you find and call their customer support phone number they claim that they cannot delete it either. I just e-mailed them at CustomerSolutions@ancestry.com (apparently the magical department that may be able to help me cannot be reached by phone). But even if they ultimately delete my credit card I resent the number of hoops they've made me jump through in order to process a very simple request (especially in this day and age, where hacking and credit card fraud are an insanely widespread problem). I wouldn't say that this is a reason not to do Ancestry DNA, but if you're teetering on the fence this would be a factor in the nay category. And if you do decide to do it, use a credit card that's expiring soon so they won't have current credit information for you for long.

Ceetar May 26 2017 02:08 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Even if a company lets you delete it/says they delete it they probably don't. They probably just toggle a field in a database so it doesn't show. Even if this email address (probably to an IT dept that doesn't generally handle external support calls, as is common) works, and they do actually delete it from the database, it'll still likely have been replicated and backed up at other times to other databases, as well as possibly being visible on saved receipts/documents that may have been saved in the database, though it's probably masked there.

themetfairy May 26 2017 02:57 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Ceetar wrote: Even if a company lets you delete it/says they delete it they probably don't. They probably just toggle a field in a database so it doesn't show. Even if this email address (probably to an IT dept that doesn't generally handle external support calls, as is common) works, and they do actually delete it from the database, it'll still likely have been replicated and backed up at other times to other databases, as well as possibly being visible on saved receipts/documents that may have been saved in the database, though it's probably masked there. I understand. But any level of masking is better than having it as visible as it currently is.

themetfairy May 29 2017 07:56 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

I received a response from Ancestry today - All information related to your payment details has been queued for deletion and will be completely removed from our systems in the next 4-6 weeks. We can confirm that your account is inactive, and you will not receive any future billing unless you decide to purchase a new subscription or DNA test and re-enter your payment information. Four to six weeks? There is no reason for this simple request to take so long! Beware - if you give Ancestry your credit card information, they're not letting go of it without a major fight!

Ceetar May 30 2017 02:15 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

themetfairy wrote: I received a response from Ancestry today - All information related to your payment details has been queued for deletion and will be completely removed from our systems in the next 4-6 weeks. We can confirm that your account is inactive, and you will not receive any future billing unless you decide to purchase a new subscription or DNA test and re-enter your payment information. Four to six weeks? There is no reason for this simple request to take so long! Beware - if you give Ancestry your credit card information, they're not letting go of it without a major fight! "I have submitted the request via our internal ticketing system to the database admins who by default assign these types of requests as lowest priority and will pick it up when they pick it up. Our internal protocol says that no ticket should sit untouched for longer than six weeks and I am confident this will be done by then."

themetfairy May 30 2017 05:31 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

It is an unacceptably long time to have to wait for a simple request to be fulfilled.

d'Kong76 May 30 2017 07:06 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

themetfairy wrote: It is an unacceptably long time to have to wait for a simple request to be fulfilled. It's ludicrous; they'd be better off lying and say they'll do it (or that they did) than saying it will take 6 weeks. Crazy story.

themetfairy May 30 2017 07:10 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Incompetent bastages....

d'Kong76 May 30 2017 07:12 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

Fargin' American iceholes...

cooby May 31 2017 12:00 AM Re: Ancestry DNA

OMG

themetfairy Jun 06 2017 09:46 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

The motherfuckers at Ancestry FINALLY took my credit card and address information out of my profile. It took them long enough!

MFS62 Aug 17 2017 01:07 PM Re: Ancestry DNA

An article in today's (@failing) New York Times (sad!) on a topic I think I mentioned in one or the other DNA threads we've had here in the last year to so, the disappointment or disillusionment some have when the results of their DNA test doesn't match their pre-assumed identity. OOPS! https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/study-find ... 04845.html Later OE: If this should be in the politics thread, please move it.