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BLC: Velvet Underground v. Queen

Rotblatt
Feb 27 2006 04:29 PM

Velvet Underground

1. Sweet Jane (full-lenth version, Loaded (Fully Loaded Edition))
2. Pale Blue Eyes (The Velvet Underground)
3. Rock And Roll (Loaded)
4. Heroin (All Tomorrow's Parties)
5. Femme Fatale (The Velvet Underground & Nico)
6. Venus In Furs (All Tomorrow's Parties)
7. Beginning to See the Light (Best Of)
8. Waiting for the Man (The Velvet Underground & Nico)
9. I Guess I'm Fallin' In Love (Another View)
10. All Tomorrow's Parties (The Velvet Underground & Nico)

Loaded (Fully Loaded Edition)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000033WC/qid=1141075445/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

The Velvet Underground
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002LVB/qid=1141075445/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

Loaded
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002LVB/qid=1141075445/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

All Tomorrow's Parties
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1141072935/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

The Velvet Underground & Nico
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1141074154/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

Another View
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001FJS/qid=1141074097/sr=1-14/ref=sr_1_14/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

Best Of
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001FR9/qid=1141074154/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

Edgy DC
Feb 27 2006 04:31 PM

Dickshot's bands under siege from the protogoths today.

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 28 2006 06:40 AM

Queen counters, brave but wary. "Hammer to Fall" is back in the lineup as "Death on Two Legs" is now "Death on its Ass." -- otherwise, the batting order has changed against the quirky delivery of the VU.

Bohemian Rhapsody
Don't Stop Me Now
Another One Bites the Dust
Under Pressure
You're My Best Friend
Somebody to Love
Fat Bottomed Girls
Hammer to Fall
Keep Yourself Alive
We Will Rock You/We are the Champions

All your clips are here

sharpie
Feb 28 2006 09:12 AM

In 1972 as a sophomore in highschool I moved from Long Island to California, taking my Velvet Underground albums with me only to discover that no one knew who they were out there. I kept a lonely vigil for these guys and was happy to be vindicated years later. Queen, as I've already written, were just not that important to me. Some songs came on the radio that I would turn off, some I would leave on. VU rules. Leaving off "White Light/White Heat", however, is ridiculous.


Sweet Jane v. Bohemian Rhapsody
Heavyweight matchup. Bohemian Rhapsody is Queen's best song but JD should have ducked the song that launched 1,000 other lesser songs. VU
Pale Blue Eyes v. Don't Stop Me Now
VU. Always have loved "Pale Blue Eyes"
Rock and Roll v. Another One Bites the Dust
VU
Heroin v. Under Pressure
Interesting matchup. Tie.
Femme Fatale v. You're My Best Friend
VU
Venus In Furs v. Somebody to Love
VU
Beginning to See the Light v. Fat Bottomed Girls
Queen
I'm Waiting For The Man v. Hammer to Fall
VU
I Guess I'm Fallin' In Love v. Keep Yourself Alive
Queen.
All Tomorrow's Parties v. We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions
VU. Nico Icon.

VU 7.5 Queen 2.5

Rotblatt
Feb 28 2006 09:46 AM

Do band reps get to vote too? I'll cast my votes as impartially as possible.

If voting by us is a no-no, Edge, that's cool too--just let me know & I'll clear this post.

Sweet Jane v. Bohemian Rhapsody
VU. Both songs are great, but Sweet Jane is just iconic.

Pale Blue Eyes v. Don't Stop Me Now
VU. Maybe my second-favorite VU song. Tough to beat.

Rock and Roll v. Another One Bites the Dust
VU. Like AOBD, but love R&R. This might be my favorite VU song.

Heroin v. Under Pressure
Well, Heroin was one of my favorites when I first discovered VU in my teen years, but it's star has dimmed a bit for me, and I like Under Pressure. I can't decide. Tie.

Femme Fatale v. You're My Best Friend
Oh, man, I just love Femme Fatale. VU

Venus In Furs v. Somebody to Love
VU. Another teenage fave. There's this weird Eastern European band called DeVotchka who do a cover that got me back into this song.

Beginning to See the Light v. Fat Bottomed Girls
Queen. Maybe should've put White Noise/White Heat here instead, although I do love this song . . .

I'm Waiting For The Man v. Hammer to Fall
Huh. I didn't remember Hammer to Fall initially, but Amazon jogged my memory. I'm not as personally fond of Waiting For the Man as some of the other VU songs, so if I'm being honest, I'd call this a tie. Tie.

I Guess I'm Fallin' In Love v. Keep Yourself Alive
Queen. This one was close for me, but KYA is a pretty good.

All Tomorrow's Parties v. We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions
VU. Might just be sharpie & me on this one, but I love this song and associate WWRY/WATC with obnoxious Yankee fans from high school.

7-3, VU.

Willets Point
Feb 28 2006 11:02 AM

No worries Rotty, everyone's been voting for the bands they sponsor.

Willets Point
Feb 28 2006 11:07 AM

Sweet Jane v. Bohemian Rhapsody Velvet Underground
Pale Blue Eyes v. Don't Stop Me Now Velvet Underground
Rock and Roll v. Another One Bites the Dust Velvet Underground
Heroin v. Under Pressure Queen
Femme Fatale v. You're My Best Friend Velvet Underground
Venus In Furs v. Somebody to Love Velvet Underground
Beginning to See the Light v. Fat Bottomed Girls Velvet Underground
I'm Waiting For The Man v. Hammer to Fall Velvet Underground
I Guess I'm Fallin' In Love v. Keep Yourself Alive Velvet Underground
All Tomorrow's Parties v. We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions
Velvet Underground

Velvet Underground 9:1 Queen

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 28 2006 02:26 PM

Sweet Jane v. Bohemian Rhapsody
I batted BR leadoff because I knew I'd need baserunners early. Queen by a hair.

Pale Blue Eyes v. Don't Stop Me Now
Tie

Rock and Roll v. Another One Bites the Dust
Set this showdown as rock v. disco. Big win for VU.

Heroin v. Under Pressure
Queen

Femme Fatale v. You're My Best Friend
--Two sweet melodies here. Tie.

Venus In Furs v. Somebody to Love
Queen

Beginning to See the Light v. Fat Bottomed Girls
--Well, now baby, I'm-buh
Ginning to see the light
Big for VU

I'm Waiting For The Man v. Hammer to Fall
--VU

I Guess I'm Fallin' In Love v. Keep Yourself Alive
Queen. I looked this one up: An instrumental leftover might have better replaced with White Light

All Tomorrow's Parties v. We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions
Queen

Final: Queen 6, VU 4

soupcan
Feb 28 2006 02:54 PM

Unfortunately I must abstain as I am too unfamiliar with Velvet Underground's library.

I will take steps to rectify that for future contests.

seawolf17
Feb 28 2006 07:27 PM

Sweet Jane v. Bohemian Rhapsody Queen
Pale Blue Eyes v. Don't Stop Me Now Queen
Rock and Roll v. Another One Bites the Dust Queen
Heroin v. Under Pressure Queen
Femme Fatale v. You're My Best Friend Velvet Underground
Venus In Furs v. Somebody to Love Queen
Beginning to See the Light v. Fat Bottomed Girls Queen
I'm Waiting For The Man v. Hammer to Fall Velvet Underground
I Guess I'm Fallin' In Love v. Keep Yourself Alive Queen
All Tomorrow's Parties v. We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions
Queen

Too much of the VU is too weird for me. Love "Sweet Jane," but "Rhapsody" is such a classic. 8-2 Queen.

seawolf17
Feb 28 2006 07:28 PM

double post

Rotblatt
Mar 01 2006 09:32 AM

soupcan wrote:
Unfortunately I must abstain as I am too unfamiliar with Velvet Underground's library.

I will take steps to rectify that for future contests.


You totally should, soup! They're a great band.

I guess a lot of folk on this board feel the same way, given the low turnout . . .

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 01 2006 09:53 AM

I recommend 'em more highly that Sufjan Stevens, if you're only gonna buy 1 record this week. What I love about VU is the quiet energy behind almost every song. They rarely rock out, but they're loaded with power.

soupcan
Mar 01 2006 09:56 AM

Took an initial listen this morning on my commute.

Wow.

Why the hell wouldn't you put 'Foggy Notion' on the list.

Rotblatt
Mar 01 2006 10:03 AM

soupcan wrote:
Why the hell wouldn't you put 'Foggy Notion' on the list.


Well, the only songs I felt I could swap out from the list were Beginning to See the Light or Guess I'm Fallin' In Love. Or Waiting for the Man, as it's not one of my biggest faves, but that's another one of their iconic songs.

Anyway, I kind of view the four of those songs as a push. We'll see what happens over the next 24 hours--my set list will probably change during the next challenge.

The new Sufjan Stevens, by the way, is amazing. But JD's right--get a VU album first. For a Sufjan Stevens fix, download a few tracks (legally) from here:

http://www.3hive.com/2004/03/sufjan_stevens.php

sharpie
Mar 01 2006 11:40 AM

Do not swap out "I'm Waiting for the Man." The other two can go, especially if "White Light/White Heat" is included.

Lots of great listening ahead for you, Soupcan.

Centerfield
Mar 02 2006 02:25 PM

Sweet Jane v. Bohemian Rhapsody - Velvet Underground
Pale Blue Eyes v. Don't Stop Me Now - Velvet Underground
Rock and Roll v. Another One Bites the Dust - Queen
Heroin v. Under Pressure - Queen
Femme Fatale v. You're My Best Friend - Queen
Venus In Furs v. Somebody to Love - Queen
Beginning to See the Light v. Fat Bottomed Girls - Queen
I'm Waiting For The Man v. Hammer to Fall - Queen
I Guess I'm Fallin' In Love v. Keep Yourself Alive - Queen
All Tomorrow's Parties v. We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions - Velvet Underground

Queen takes it 7-3.

Btw, can we get a judge's ruling on "Under Pressure"? Is that Queen? Or a Bowie/Mercury duet?

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 02 2006 02:39 PM

Billed as Queen and David Bowie

sharpie
Mar 02 2006 03:39 PM

Just like Femme Fatale and All Tomorrow's Parties are the Velvet Underground and Nico.


Judges ruled from Contest 1 that Queen can use Under Pressure. If we ever do a solo act ladder contest David Bowie and Nico can also use the songs they are paired with.

soupcan
Mar 02 2006 03:59 PM

For what its worth I'm not enjoying 'Nico' nearly as much as I am Lou Reed.

Not even close actually.

sharpie
Mar 02 2006 04:02 PM

Andy Warhol forced Nico on the Velvets for that first album. She only shows up on, I think, 3 songs and she never appeared with them in concert.

Rotblatt
Mar 02 2006 05:07 PM

So is that it? 6 little votes and we're done?

sharpie
Mar 02 2006 05:19 PM

I guess so. Weird. Been 48 hours. VU wins.