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Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Edgy MD Mar 08 2016 03:37 PM

Edgy can't help himself. He's a completionist. He's bought more Mets books than he can frankly read. And his completionism leads him to put up soothsaying threads for the Raywilly Gomezes of the world in order to have all potential Mets covered. But seriously? What's to predict? Will he be flotsam or will he be jetsam? Will he get zero plate appearances or nine? The difference, as they say, is negligible. But then there's me. I'm Yoenis Cespedes, and I'm a big, crazy, slugging Cuban expat. I might slug fifty homers, or I might slug a cop. I might unleash spectacular throws from the centerfield fence, or I might unleash ravenous doberman pinschers in a park full of middle schoolers. WHO KNOWS WITH ME? I could be a disaster in centerfield, or I might steal home five times. I'm what they call volatile. Here, have a smoke. So yeah, the range of outcomes with me is, as Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders will tell you, YOOJ. It's one thing they agree on. But it's my job to drive super-expensive and attention-grabbing automobiles, count my money, and play a little baseball once in a while, and it's your job to predict what my season will look like when the dust settles. I don't envy you. At all. VROOM! [fimg=500]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2315012.1438747045!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/nl-baseball.jpg[/fimg]

Vic Sage Mar 08 2016 03:43 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

.270 ba / 25 hr / 95 rbi / 85 r /.800 ops

Benjamin Grimm Mar 08 2016 03:59 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Hey! I've heard of this guy. Put me down for 35 homers and 105 runs batted in.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 08 2016 04:17 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

25-89-.256/.314/.499 //.813 Hoping to round up on all of those numbers but also trying to keep things in perspective. Ultimately the opt-out will worry us all: That he takes it or that he doesn't. He's that kinda player.

Lefty Specialist Mar 08 2016 04:32 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

.265/28/99. Worth it not least because he helps the hitters around him in the lineup.

Vic Sage Mar 08 2016 06:26 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Lefty Specialist wrote: .265/28/99. Worth it not least because he helps the hitters around him in the lineup. SABRmetricians say "what"?

Ceetar Mar 08 2016 07:04 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

.287/.315/.490 4.5 fWAR. 32 HR. 5th in MVP voting, but second on the Mets. Playoff line: .250/.363/.501 4 HR. 4 2B. 15 RBI. What he'll ride in the parade: A tricked out blue and orange Ferrari that belches flames to the tune of Meet the Mets. opts out. Gets 5/120 from someone else with an opt out after 2 which he doesn't take, and a 6th year option that the team doesn't take.

Ashie62 Mar 08 2016 09:47 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

61 hr 138 rbi .288 MVP

Zvon Mar 08 2016 10:25 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

What he'll ride in the parade: A tricked out blue and orange Ferrari that belches flames to the tune of Meet the Mets. lol. Tweet that in his general direction and he just might. Ashie62 wrote: 61 hr 138 rbi .288 MVP There ya go. I'm with Ash. Why think small when all you're doing is thinking? That's why I haven't jumped into any of these. I want them all to excel even past their potential so why predict anything less? I'd put Conforto down for the 35 kaBOOMs you guys are giving Cespedes. Ha.

MFS62 Mar 09 2016 04:23 AM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

.280 65-75 extra base hits, of which 28-30 will be home runs. .835-.860 OPS 115 RBI 2nd in MVP voting. Later

Lefty Specialist Mar 09 2016 02:08 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Vic Sage wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: .265/28/99. Worth it not least because he helps the hitters around him in the lineup. SABRmetricians say "what"? Well, he'll give David Wright a new barbecue recipe. And one day Lucas Duda's car won't start and he'll give him a lift to the ballpark.

Vic Sage Mar 09 2016 03:03 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

good recovery!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 10 2016 04:02 AM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

A Slingshot in every Florida parking spot, a custom hovercraft in every potential hovercraft-garage. 630 PA, .273/.320/.481; 29 HR, 82 R, 91 RBI, 7 SB/2 CS, 65 XBH

d'Kong76 Mar 15 2016 01:32 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Comes up limping into a cold night late in April and hits a game winning home run. Rounding second the limping gets worse and we don't see him again until late June. And what a late June it's going to be! And what a July, and what an August. September? Maurice will rise from the dead and write another song just. about. Yoenis!

Edgy MD Sep 22 2016 03:47 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

So, what do you do with this guy? He's a one man cannon of offensive potential about to be released at any moment, but that jogging show was not only utter bullshit, but so consistent with his act. The steal of third was pretty consistent too. Like his most celebrated throws coming after misplays, it's like he has to dig a hole of indifference before finding the motivation to dig out with the full power of his machine of excellence.

Centerfield Sep 22 2016 04:05 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

You re-sign him after he opts out.

TransMonk Sep 22 2016 04:20 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Agreed. He's been a pretty consistent offensive force for over a year now and has earned long-term consideration from the Mets. Yeah, he makes some head-shaking defensive and base running errors, but I feel his bat is necessary to compete next season and beyond...especially with the question marks now surrounding Harvey, deGrom, Matz and Wheeler coming back from injury. If Conforto of 2016 was the Conforto of 2015, I might feel differently.

Edgy MD Sep 22 2016 04:30 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Centerfield wrote: You re-sign him after he opts out. Well, that could depend on a lot of factors. Dollars and years and willingness to play right and such. Mostly dollars and years. But that indifference ... it's a lot uglier a look when you're not hitting 30 homers, but instead hitting 18.

TransMonk Sep 22 2016 04:37 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

I'd love to be confident going into '17 with an outfield of Conforto, Bruce and some sort of Laggy/Grandy platoon in center. But looking at the performance of Bruce and Conforto right now, and given Laggy's injury history and the continuation of a Granderson decline due to age next season, it's hardly confidence building.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 22 2016 04:44 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

I'll feel much better about 2017 if Cespedes is part of the team. The Mets can go cheap at second base next year (letting Walker walk) and they'll save another $12 million if Bruce gets cut loose. I'd like them to use that money to get a yes from Cespedes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 22 2016 04:52 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Edgy MD wrote: So, what do you do with this guy? He's a one man cannon of offensive potential about to be released at any moment, but that jogging show was not only utter bullshit, but so consistent with his act. The steal of third was pretty consistent too. Like his most celebrated throws coming after misplays, it's like he has to dig a hole of indifference before finding the motivation to dig out with the full power of his machine of excellence. He's a modern superstar through and through. I was listening on the radio and Howie started hammering him during the call, then for 5 minutes afterward. The stolen base was okay but it seemed to cost Rivera a swinging strike which was very expensive. I will say hte man tends to rise to the occasion like few others. A day after he failed in a GW situation he came inches from winning one in consecutive innings. Guy's one of a kind.

Edgy MD Sep 22 2016 04:58 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

If they continue with him as their crowned prince of superstardom, I sure hope have get a manager who can get him to play hard, instead of one who talks like a no-bullshit guy but seems to brook a lot of bullshit. Love you, Terry. Don't get me wrong. And yeah, the steal of third put him the right spot but a few pitches too late.

Centerfield Oct 05 2016 01:48 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Just realized tonight might be the last time we see Ces in a Mets uniform. Whatever you do this offseason (which will not start for a few weeks yet), you have to bring him back.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 05 2016 01:55 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

I agree. The fate of Cespedes will be the first big story of the offseason. My guess (and hope) is that they negotiate an extension before he hits free agency.

Lefty Specialist Oct 05 2016 02:02 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Hafta have him back. He'd be a fool not to opt out, and unless he wants a 6+ year deal, they'd be fools not to sign him.

Edgy MD Jan 24 2017 02:22 AM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Poster PA BA OBP SLG OPS XBH HR RBI Runs SB CS fWAR MVP Vic Sage .270 .800 25 95 85 Ben Grimm 35 105 John Cougar Lunchbucket .256 .314 .499 .813 25 89 Lefty Specialist .265 28 99 ceetar .287 .315 .490 .805 32 4.5 Ashie62 .288 61 138 1st MFS62 .280 .847 70 29 138 2nd LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr 630 .273 .320 .481 .801 65 29 91 82 7 2 REAL YOENIS CESPEDES 543 .280 .354 .530 .884 57 31 86 72 3 1 3.2 8th I think MFS62 takes this one, too, though his second-in-MVP voting guess kind of throws his prediction a bit off.

MFS62 Jan 24 2017 02:30 AM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

The crystal ball got fogged up by the time I got into the later categories. I can sayeth sooth if I only have to type it, but not sayeth it out loud. Later

Ashie62 Jan 24 2017 07:40 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

.277 38 HR 122 RBI 887 OPS 7 SB

Edgy MD Jan 24 2017 07:41 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

This thread is from 2016. You seem to be jumping the gun on 17.

Ashie62 Jan 24 2017 08:09 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

oopski lol

cooby Jan 25 2017 12:16 AM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Well, since his name came up, can somebody tell me how it's pronounced? Every game I watched, they just called him Cespedes. Familia's first name too, please

Benjamin Grimm Jan 25 2017 12:46 AM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

Yo-ennis. Familia's first name is another story entirely. Nobody knows for sure. Gary Cohen calls him Jay-or-reese, but that can't be correct. I've heard other pronunciations as well, too many to try to list here. During the 2015 postseason, while being interviewed, Daniel Murphy referred to Familia as "Yoris", which is probably more correct. I'm surprised that nobody has asked him, "Hey, Dude! How do you pronounce your name?" If there are any Twitter users among us (and I know there are) maybe we can contact Familia directly and get him to tell us how to pronounce his name?

Frayed Knot Jan 25 2017 02:35 AM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

BB-Ref lists it as: Jer-ISS

cooby Jan 26 2017 07:47 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

lol thanks. Not sure I'll remember though. I'll be sure to never talk about either of them

Vic Sage Jan 27 2017 04:58 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

cooby wrote: Well, since his name came up, can somebody tell me how it's pronounced? Every game I watched, they just called him Cespedes. How i pronounce his name largely depends on whether I'm angry at him at the moment. If I am, then i call him "Yo! Anus!"

cooby Jan 27 2017 05:12 PM Re: Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

I'm sure he gets a lot of that :D