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Born in the U.S. of A. ?
None - All were immigrants | 4 votes |
One - | 0 votes |
Two - | 5 votes |
Three - | 5 votes |
Four - All born on American soil | 13 votes |
Not Sure in some or all cases | 4 votes |
Frayed Knot Feb 22 2016 02:40 PM |
No, not a Springsteen 'Desert Island' poll.
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dgwphotography Feb 22 2016 02:47 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
2 - My maternal grandparents were born in Italy.
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MFS62 Feb 22 2016 02:51 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
My mother died when I was young, and I never learned much about her parents.
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Benjamin Grimm Feb 22 2016 02:53 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
All four of my grandparents were born in New York City.
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Edgy MD Feb 22 2016 02:53 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Maternal grandparents were immigrants, including a grandfather who was a PoW in a war that was an uprising against an American ally. From a nation that was not above using terrorism to obtain their independence.
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cooby classic Feb 22 2016 02:55 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I think all my grandparents were born in USA. I think my mom's grandparents were born in USA, and my dad's grandparents in Germany*, but I could be wrong. I am actually going to find all this out soon.
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Ceetar Feb 22 2016 03:04 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
all 4.
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themetfairy Feb 22 2016 03:08 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
All four of mine were born in the USA. All four of D-Dad's as well.
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cooby classic Feb 22 2016 03:09 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
A little off topic, but my son in law's dad traveled to Italy to find his roots. Found a bunch of relatives there. Interestingly, they begin their last name with a Di instead of a De. Just can't get my son in law interested in his ancestry but I'm working on it. (maybe an AncestryDNA test for a birthday present...hmmmm)
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TransMonk Feb 22 2016 03:21 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
All four.
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batmagadanleadoff Feb 22 2016 03:37 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Interesting poll.
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Lefty Specialist Feb 22 2016 03:56 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
All of my grandparents were born in Ireland. And my dad came to the US at the age of 3. It's why I sunburn so easily.
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d'Kong76 Feb 22 2016 04:04 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I never knew any of my grandparents. My Mom's parents both died
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Chad Ochoseis Feb 22 2016 04:15 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
My father's parents were both born in a small town in Tarnapol, in what was then the Austro-Hungarian empire, but is now Ukraine. The fact that I know the name of the town has made it possible to track down a couple of distant cousins, even though I have a very common Jewish last name.
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Fman99 Feb 22 2016 04:54 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
All four of my grandparents were born in the USA. They were the first in my family to have been born here.
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Frayed Knot Feb 22 2016 05:22 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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True. I think I originally had it as simply 'None' but for some reason felt it needed embellishing. The G-parents could have stayed in the "old country" all their lives and it was the parents who immigrated, or maybe you yourself are an immigrant. It's too late to edit so just treat that choice as if it says 'None'.
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Vic Sage Feb 22 2016 05:26 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
My dad's parents were from Poland. my dad was born in Germany, which they all fled a year later, when Swastikas started becoming fashionable in the neighborhood.
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themetfairy Feb 22 2016 06:07 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Or Grand Island Yes, my paternal great-grandfather came to America as part of a movement to create a Jewish homeland in Grand Island. My primary thought was that this must have seemed like a really good idea in the summertime....
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Frayed Knot Feb 22 2016 06:29 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 22 2016 09:15 PM |
I'm a 'Four' myself - although just barely as the maternal grandmother's older brother was born elsewhere (Belfast) before the great-grands wound up immigrating during the approx six year gap between his birth and hers.
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Frayed Knot Feb 22 2016 06:33 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Welsh/Walsh is (not too surprisingly) generally Welsh in origin - although that doesn't mean it didn't come through a different country entirely. Similarly, those Ancestry.com DNA tests (or similar stuff) will tell you broad mixes of ethnicity but that doesn't always correspond directly to a country(s) of origin. On the other hand you just might find out what percentage of Neanderthal you are.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 22 2016 06:55 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
All visiting team--maternals from the Philippines, paternals from Deutschland.
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metsmarathon Feb 22 2016 07:21 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
put me down for two, with a slight chance of a three...
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Ceetar Feb 22 2016 07:39 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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I wonder how true that is. I mean, I'm sure I'm coming at it from a very NYC-centric diversity exposure thingy. I occasionally am surprised but not that often, and I feel like another generation down is going to be even less so. Just thinking about my group of friends I'd almost say most of the kids aren't obvious matches for the ethnicity suggested by their last name.
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cooby classic Feb 22 2016 08:07 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Wow, I am getting beat up this week! First Edgy now LF...
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RealityChuck Feb 22 2016 08:43 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
My maternal grandmother was born in Romania.
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Frayed Knot Feb 22 2016 09:18 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Hey, nothing wrong with it. Many people have small amounts of Neanderthal DNA in them and those of European origins are the most likely ones of all to show such connections.
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metsmarathon Feb 22 2016 09:40 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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one of the comments was from an airline attendant in atlanta, another from a passenger, also in atlanta, and one from a rental car clerk in ohio. I've also gotten a few comments in Arizona in the past. I'm sure I've encountered such sentiments elsewhere as well. my sister used to be frequently frustrated by such comments, and she's gotten them mostly from New Yorkers. me, I don't know that I have ever found myself in a situation where I would, as part of conversational banter, challenge another person's parentage, cultural identity, or physical appearance. but that's just me...
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sharpie Feb 22 2016 09:40 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Both of my maternal grandparents were born in Poland. My father was adopted. His birth mother was an Irish immigrant but I got no idea about his father.
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cooby classic Feb 22 2016 10:02 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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I could be a cave girl!
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Frayed Knot Feb 22 2016 10:39 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Go back far enough and you're going to be a cave girl whether you have Neanderthal roots or not since Homo Sapiens were competing for many of those same caves from the moment they showed up in modern-day Europe (the Neanderthals were there first). And, as we now know from the discovery of Neanderthal DNA in modern humans, sometimes they were even sharing those caves.
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Zvon Feb 22 2016 10:55 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Grandmother on my father's side was from Dublin Ireland.
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Rockin' Doc Feb 23 2016 02:43 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Maternal grandparents were born in Suffolk county, NY. Paternal grandparents were from the hills of southern WV.
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Centerfield Feb 23 2016 03:45 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
0 for 4. All were born in Korea.
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d'Kong76 Feb 23 2016 05:03 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Were you the one who sent in the DNA thing somewhere? How did that work out? I'm very intrigued by the whole getting one's DNA analyzed since my heritage is so sketchy in part.
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cooby classic Feb 23 2016 05:57 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Yep it was me! Didn't get the results yet!
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d'Kong76 Feb 23 2016 06:06 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Lettuce know how that all goes and if you have any neanderthal lol!
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cooby classic Feb 23 2016 06:41 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
:D
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Benjamin Grimm Feb 23 2016 07:23 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I read recently that we all have some Neanderthal in us, it's just a question of how much. I think the average is 3 per cent.
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Centerfield Feb 23 2016 07:27 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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I would guess you have more. You're always ordering the roast duck with the mango salsa.
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Benjamin Grimm Feb 23 2016 08:12 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Good point. Neanderthals loved salsa.
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Ashie62 Feb 23 2016 10:43 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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In males you can go by the amount of back hair. Me caveman.
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seawolf17 Feb 24 2016 01:19 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Between this and the Italian Name Search thing I saw today (http://www.italianames.com/italian-last-names-maps), I've been down the ancestry rabbit hole. Found my grandfather's ship manifest from when he came here in 1932.
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Mets Willets Point Feb 24 2016 05:31 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Grandparents: 3 born in NYC, 1 born in Pennsylvania and later emigrated to NYC.
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cooby classic Feb 24 2016 01:30 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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I'm glad this came up, otherwise if my test showed Neanderthal I would have really wondered...
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Frayed Knot Feb 24 2016 02:15 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Great-Grands:
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MFS62 Feb 24 2016 02:33 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Thanks. That helps. Now, let's try to get closer to the actual percentage. Do you walk upright? Paint in caves? Use stone implements? Later
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Frayed Knot Feb 24 2016 02:55 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Well, both the Neanderthals and the traveling band of Homo Sapiens who bumped into each other in post ice age Europe did all of those things more or less simultaneously. It's not totally clear how, or even if, the HS-group was more advanced than the Neander-dudes back when the groups first met, it's just known that the one crew eventually won out and the Neanders were driven to extinction but not before leaving trace amounts of their DNA with the one line of humans (out of a dozen or more that we know once existed) that's still around. So the two groups didn't only fight over some of the same caves but they apparently shared them on occasion as well. Those of European and/or Middle Eastern descent are the ones most likely to have measurable percentages of Neanderthal DNA floating around in them. East Asians and sub-Saharan Africans are less likely. The role of salsa consumption as a key indicator is still under study.
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Frayed Knot Nov 20 2016 11:33 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Apparently not an uncommon thing back in the day -- not the 13 babies part* but the coming to the U.S. via Canada. Am currently in the midst of a book on New York immigration history - and it turns out that many of the British ship lines who handled much of the 19th century transit to the 'New World' from Ireland (and from England and Scotland and elsewhere) set their fares to Canada at a lower rate as compared to those ships heading for the U.S., a tactic which led many folks of limited means to book passage to Canada even if never intending to settle there. So that not-so-direct path, often starting in say Dublin or Cork, first over to Liverpool, then on a trans-Atlantic ship to Montreal or elsewhere in eastern Canada, before finally, via all kinds of routes I suppose, onto either NYC or Boston, was a well-worn one. Yours may have been among that lot. * although, among Irish families of a century or more ago, that part probably wasn't all that uncommon either. My Belfast-born great-grandmother (b. 1877) was the third of 13 children, the surprising part might be that apparently only one of them failed to survive childhood.
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d'Kong76 Nov 20 2016 11:55 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Now if we had smart-thinking leadership back in the day they would have
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Edgy MD Nov 21 2016 02:18 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Makes sense, but my greats weren't Euro-immigrants who used Canada as a slipping-in point, my forebears were swarthy Québécois (and some Alsacian) Canadian citizens, who got a bug to head south. The story goes that my great grandfather and his brother were carpenters snuck across the border, headed for New York, but saw a construction site in Yonkers, snuck in early one day, and got to work. When folks asked who sent them, they feigned not knowing English (or knowing less than they let on), and amazingly, at the end of the week, there were pay envelopes for them. Build that wall, my ass.
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d'Kong76 Nov 21 2016 02:31 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
So you're not of Irish decent? I'm confused.
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Edgy MD Nov 21 2016 02:46 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
5/8 Irish-American
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d'Kong76 Nov 21 2016 02:53 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I think I'm the only Lithuanian in the room, that's something.
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d'Kong76 Nov 21 2016 03:38 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
KB is part French Canadian, don't have details like your details.
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Lefty Specialist Nov 21 2016 12:38 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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WOW. My paternal grandparents came over from Ireland but they briefly went to Canada first. I asked my father and he never knew why, but now it makes perfect sense. Grandpa was known to throw nickels around like manhole covers.
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Edgy MD Nov 21 2016 01:37 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Not that uncommon among French Canadians either. And sometimes, they'd have five at a time. Of my grandmother's set, 11 of the 13 survived to adulthood. My grandmother was the oldest girl among them, so she was stuck in the backup mother role. She married late and was widowed early and was one bitter old lady. My Great Aunt Helen died last week, the last of the 13.
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Frayed Knot Nov 21 2016 02:02 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Not sure if that cheaper through Canada thing was still the case into the 20th century, but it certainly was a reason why some opted for the route via the great white north during much of the mass Irish emigration of the mid & late 19th.
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MFS62 Nov 21 2016 03:24 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Nope, part of my mother's family was from Lithuania (as was part of my wife's). Not sure which specific generation of relatives, though. It could be part of why we're the two tallest CPF-ers when the gang gets together. Later
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d'Kong76 Nov 21 2016 05:39 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I've never met Namor in person, but I've heard he's quite large. Maybe he's of
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Rockin' Doc Nov 25 2016 02:55 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Apparently there is no Lithuanian blood in my ancestry. If we're forming a CPF basketball team, I would have to be the team trainer.
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Frayed Knot Dec 03 2016 01:35 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Actually, if your brood's crossing came after the early 1920's then there's a decent chance they went via Canada in order to skirt immigration laws. Congress started putting in overall caps in the early '20s with the dual goals of reducing the overall flood of immigrants that had been going on since the 1880s or so and also favoring (or not) certain nationalities with country-specific caps. So to get around those newly installed quotas a couple of alternative routes sprung up with various northern Euros tending to come through Canada first while Italians and other Mediterranean types figured they'd blend in better by smuggling themselves through Cuba or one of the other Caribbean islands. You illegal you!!
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Frayed Knot Apr 25 2017 07:00 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I'd like to send this long-distance dedication out to all you Lithuanians out there.
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d'Kong76 Apr 25 2017 07:32 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Pretty cool, thanks.
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MFS62 Apr 26 2017 12:31 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
thanks.
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Edgy MD Apr 26 2017 03:10 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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You're Rob Schneider, aren't you?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 26 2017 06:58 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Gentile, East Coast, hate catchphrases. So... inverse Rob Schneider?
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metirish Apr 26 2017 02:03 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I never knew this thread existed, I somehow missed it, fascinating stuff.
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Edgy MD Apr 26 2017 03:06 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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You guys must be a gas at all those bi-coastal Pinoydeutsch reunions.
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Frayed Knot Apr 26 2017 03:18 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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This thread was most active during the time both you and Soupcan were away at whatever super-secret forum you found. I assume we can put you down for a 'Zero' in this one. And your kid too for that matter.
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Edgy MD Apr 26 2017 03:37 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Hey, man, the kid is half Puerto Rican. That's USA, if not an S, per se.
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Mets Willets Point Apr 26 2017 05:24 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I can't believe that in a thread named for a Springsteen song that I never noted that I was born in the same town as Springsteen.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 26 2017 05:29 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
All four of my grandparents were born in the United States. All eight of my great-grandparents were born in Sicily.
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d'Kong76 Apr 26 2017 05:52 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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That's pretty cool and amazing!
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metirish Apr 26 2017 10:17 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Yes I guess, as noted by Edgy Lorcan's mom is from Puerto RIco so not sure how that is counted. Both his grandparents on that side are Puerto RIcan born.
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Frayed Knot Apr 26 2017 10:55 PM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Good to know that nothing has changed from how it was 14 months ago on the first page of this thread.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 27 2017 12:12 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
I'll post another reminder about eight months from now!
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Frayed Knot Apr 27 2017 12:33 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Or, if things change, you can update us sooner.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 27 2017 12:40 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Count on it!
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Batty31 Apr 27 2017 12:51 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
Two of my grandparents were born in Calabria, Italy. Not sure if the other two were born here or in Calabria as well. All eight great grandparents were born in Calabria.
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d'Kong76 Apr 27 2017 01:01 AM Re: Born in the U.S. of A. ? |
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Guess I thought it was cooler hearing it second time around.
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