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Every Day I'm Hustling

Edgy MD
Mar 24 2016 07:35 PM

Cespedes gives us a highlight in today's split squad exhibition with Houston.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 24 2016 07:46 PM
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I just watched that clip. Good grief!

I'm glad this only happened in a spring training game, but wow.

It was nice to hear Keith and Ron again. (I don't watch spring training games, so this is the first time I've heard their voices since they were doing the pre-game shows in SNY during the World Series.) Who was that in the booth with them? I didn't recognize the voice.

d'Kong76
Mar 24 2016 07:46 PM
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I was going to start an ST IGT just to moan and groan about the brain
freeze going on there. Maybe he 'waked and baked' this morning, other
than that that's just embarrassing.

d'Kong76
Mar 24 2016 07:48 PM
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I think it's still Scott Braun.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 24 2016 07:52 PM
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Mets are having a terrible spring training. They've lost 7 games in a row and barely scored in any of them. Harvey's pitched like shit in his last 2. deGrom has been shaky and low-velocity, Wright is increasingly looking like a Teixera type who'll be lucky to get a half-season in and I think we have to be concerned about a potential controversy in the outfield if Cespedes continues to play this shitty.

ST means nothing I know, but just saying: Last year we had a very good spring training.

This year the Nats and Phils are.

Lefty Specialist
Mar 24 2016 07:54 PM
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Boy, he better not do that in a game that counts. Because those cheers can turn to boos pretty quickly.

Play things out and then wait for the ruling, Yo.

Frayed Knot
Mar 24 2016 08:32 PM
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And the stupid part is that's there's no advantage to be gained by claiming the "lost ball" thing even if it was!!
That act seemed to exist simply to save himself the trouble of bending over.




Scrubbinies tried to make a game of it with 5 in the 8th plus a couple runners on in the 9th, but the 8-0 deficit proved too much.

Edgy MD
Mar 24 2016 08:37 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Mets are having a terrible spring training. They've lost 7 games in a row and barely scored in any of them. Harvey's pitched like shit in his last 2. deGrom has been shaky and low-velocity, Wright is increasingly looking like a Teixera type who'll be lucky to get a half-season in and I think we have to be concerned about a potential controversy in the outfield if Cespedes continues to play this shitty.

Preach on.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 24 2016 08:47 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Mets are having a terrible spring training. They've lost 7 games in a row and barely scored in any of them. Harvey's pitched like shit in his last 2. deGrom has been shaky and low-velocity, Wright is increasingly looking like a Teixera type who'll be lucky to get a half-season in and I think we have to be concerned about a potential controversy in the outfield if Cespedes continues to play this shitty.

Preach on.


Conforto has a bad back. Cabrera hurt his knee. Erik Goeddel has lat soreness.

Ceetar
Mar 25 2016 12:16 AM
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yawn. it means nothing.

d'Kong76
Mar 25 2016 12:23 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
it means nothing.

Of course it does, you want to hit the ground runnin' not bumblin'.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 25 2016 12:35 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
yawn. it means nothing.


It doesn't and it does. Last year we had the best ST I've ever experienced as a fan, and they went out and had a terrific start. That start was meaningful when it was all over.

While it would be nice to be 14-4 (as Washington is) all I ask in the spring is that guys don;t get hurt and we look like we're ready to go to war when the bell rings. Neither of those things have happened yet.

Zvon
Mar 25 2016 02:51 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Mets are having a terrible spring training. They've lost 7 games in a row and barely scored in any of them. Harvey's pitched like shit in his last 2. deGrom has been shaky and low-velocity, Wright is increasingly looking like a Teixera type who'll be lucky to get a half-season in and I think we have to be concerned about a potential controversy in the outfield if Cespedes continues to play this shitty.

ST means nothing I know, but just saying: Last year we had a very good spring training.

This year the Nats and Phils are.


I have noticed this and it has occurred to me over the last few days. Awful fundies on cutoff men and stuff like that. Surprisingly bad. deGroms velocity means nothing to me if he's K'n the side and stringing shutout innings. I'm more concerned about Matz (& I was about Colon til last outing). We've miscounted our chickens before. I hope Matz is up to the task.

Yea, it's spring and all but I doubt things are going the way the team would like them to go, even at this phase. It's just easier to shake off.

I was both shocked and amused at Cespedes play in center today. But that's some of what we will have to deal with. I think he feels like sometimes he's above doing such things, like bending over. Well, fine, then you better offset that by doing wonderful offensive things, Yoenis.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 25 2016 03:01 AM
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Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Mar 25 2016 06:15 AM

Cespedes gives us a highlight in today's split squad exhibition with Houston.


Angel Pagan hit an inside the parker for the Mets just like the one against Cespedes. It was in that crazy game that Pedro started against the Mets for the Phillies and ended with Francoeur hitting a rocket that was turned into an unassisted triple play. That was during the nadir of bad Ollie's Met stint: he didn't make it out of the first inning in that game. I vaguely remember (but ain't sure) Manuel pulling Perez from the game in a way that was clearly meant to humiliate and show Ollie up.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 25 2016 03:04 AM
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Not everyone here can write a post like this one:

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Mets are having a terrible spring training. They've lost 7 games in a row and barely scored in any of them. Harvey's pitched like shit in his last 2. deGrom has been shaky and low-velocity, Wright is increasingly looking like a Teixera type who'll be lucky to get a half-season in and I think we have to be concerned about a potential controversy in the outfield if Cespedes continues to play this shitty.

ST means nothing I know, but just saying: Last year we had a very good spring training.

This year the Nats and Phils are.


and then get Edgy to respond like this:

Edgy MD wrote:
Preach on.


What's your secret?

G-Fafif
Mar 25 2016 06:34 AM
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Mets went .500 in ST in 1962 and again in 1986. There's a nut to crack in there somewhere.

Related: If on Twitter, follow @TodayIn86Mets, an ongoing real-time of everything the Mets were up to thirty years ago. Then scroll back a few days and notice how much they sucked for a spell en route to 108-54. The guy (let's assume) does his homework.

I get the feeling the momentum carries over from a great spring record if you weren't that great the season before. Last year's Mets, the 1984 Cubs, the 1982 Braves all come to mind. Established teams come at it differently. Then again, I clearly remember sustained sucking in March 2007 and being overcome with a sense of doom that lingered until it exploded in September.

Win a few before April 3 and it's all good.

The Victorino point and shoot himself in the foot occurred to me as well. It wasn't quite so clear to the naked eye that day that Angel's ball wasn't stuck (though it wasn't). When I was watching last Sunday's pretend game with my dad and some Red Sock ITPHR'd, he asked if I'd ever seen an inside-the-park HR in person, and I referenced Pagan's. "Those are exciting," he said. I agreed, putting a capper on our one and only conversation on the subject ever.

As for Yo, if that ball was so great, he woulda picked it up.

Lefty Specialist
Mar 25 2016 01:34 PM
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The thing about spring training is not necessarily to compile the best overall record, but to be firing on all cylinders that last week coming into the season. They're not quite there yet.

Vic Sage
Mar 25 2016 01:52 PM
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All I want from ST is to come into the season HEALTHY. Anecdotally, it appears to me that nothing else a team does in ST really correlates to a winning season.
So the only things i'm concerned about now is Wright's back, which seems even worse than i feared, deGrom's aches and reduced velocity, and Cabrera's leg (though not too concerned about that, since i'd prefer Flores anyway).

Ceetar
Mar 25 2016 01:57 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
All I want from ST is to come into the season HEALTHY. Anecdotally, it appears to me that nothing else a team does in ST really correlates to a winning season.
So the only things i'm concerned about now is Wright's back, which seems even worse than i feared, deGrom's aches and reduced velocity, and Cabrera's leg (though not too concerned about that, since i'd prefer Flores anyway).


precisely. stay healthy, get your work in, show up in Kansas City. Though a little too much gets made of these types of things in Spring because A. nothing to write about. B. growing pains of ramping up workouts. These minor aches and pains just get treated in the trainers room and often go unmentioned in May.

Wright talked about his prep work last year. He seems to view it as a condition more than an injury. The stretch run last season was a minor sample, but he was pretty good. I'd take that. There doesn't seem to be a lot of data out there to figure out if prolonged baseball stresses make the back worse, it seems like probably not. I think the main concern is other nagging baseball injuries preventing him from being able to do his stretches and limbering up and what not that get his back in shape.

Cabrera is so much better than Flores, but it seems worse case now is like 2 days on the DL for him so it's not really a big deal.

MFS62
Mar 25 2016 02:18 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Cespedes gives us a highlight in today's split squad exhibition with Houston.

Maybe he was practicing for a "dead ball" ruling he would get when a ball is hung up in the ivy in Wrigley Field.
That's what Spring Training is for - preparing for real situations that would come up in an actual major league game.
Or it was a real brain fart.

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 25 2016 02:23 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
All I want from ST is to come into the season HEALTHY. Anecdotally, it appears to me that nothing else a team does in ST really correlates to a winning season.
So the only things i'm concerned about now is Wright's back, which seems even worse than i feared, deGrom's aches and reduced velocity, and Cabrera's leg (though not too concerned about that, since i'd prefer Flores anyway).


precisely. stay healthy, get your work in, show up in Kansas City. Though a little too much gets made of these types of things in Spring because A. nothing to write about. B. growing pains of ramping up workouts. These minor aches and pains just get treated in the trainers room and often go unmentioned in May.


Geez, Ceets, that's exactly what I said above. Stay healthy in spring and look OK is all I ask.

They are neither. I am hopeful that "aches and pains" get treated in time but for now they're not OK, and they don't look good as a unit hitting or pitching. Not deserving of your "yawn. meaningless" remark above. I'm perfectly okay with a .400 or .500 ST record. Not with a .350 one.

Ceetar
Mar 25 2016 02:53 PM
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no, 'yawn meaningless' is exactly that. everybody has aches and pains when they work out. and that's all this is. It's the practice tee. It's the last practice run you do before a marathon. It's the PSATs.


Especially for the Mets who are barely even pumping tangential meaning in via position races. Maybe a couple of relievers. but hell, pitchers barely are throwing what they'd throw in the regular season in spots, they're not really throwing to d'Arnaud, or with their normal defense behind them. It's day games when they usually play at night. The crowds are tepid and disinterested.

For every guy that says you want to be putting good swings on balls going into the season you'll get a guy like Keith who likes to say you don't want to waste those quality hits in BP/Spring.

And hell, these nicks and bruises are just the normal course of events. It's only troubling if they're keeping them in minor league games for DL reasons. So there was some slight concern with Asdrubal for instance but he's supposed to play in the main grapefruit game on Sunday so that means they're not really worried about DL time. He'll be the Opening Day starter otherwise they would've just let him get the reps the minors an backdated the DL so he'd only have to miss 2 or 3 games.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 25 2016 03:33 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
All I want from ST is to come into the season HEALTHY. Anecdotally, it appears to me that nothing else a team does in ST really correlates to a winning season.
So the only things i'm concerned about now is Wright's back, which seems even worse than i feared, deGrom's aches and reduced velocity, and Cabrera's leg (though not too concerned about that, since i'd prefer Flores anyway).


Preach on.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 25 2016 03:37 PM
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How about Harvey getting lit up by the fucking visiting Astros at home? And on the same day his latest publicity stunt suggesting how little he's actually focused on baseball appears in the Post.

Fuck off, Harvey, and take your stylist with you.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 25 2016 03:54 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
How about Harvey getting lit up by the fucking visiting Astros at home? And on the same day his latest publicity stunt suggesting how little he's actually focused on baseball appears in the Post.

Fuck off, Harvey, and take your stylist with you.


You preach on, too.

Vic Sage
Mar 25 2016 03:56 PM
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yeah, i really don't see a correlation between a photo shoot and his inability to locate his fastball on a given day in March.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 25 2016 03:57 PM
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I don't either but I don;t like it

Lefty Specialist
Mar 25 2016 05:56 PM
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The title of this thread made me think of this:

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Zvon
Mar 26 2016 01:02 AM
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On the up side I really like what I'm seeing from Lagares (plus Thor & Reynolds today), who I figured for the bench (& still do). Keith says it's good problem to have but not when you want Conforto playing as much as possible. This will be interesting.

Ashie62
Mar 26 2016 01:09 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
How about Harvey getting lit up by the fucking visiting Astros at home? And on the same day his latest publicity stunt suggesting how little he's actually focused on baseball appears in the Post.

Fuck off, Harvey, and take your stylist with you.


You preach on, too.


and on.

Edgy MD
Mar 26 2016 01:01 PM
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Zvon wrote:
On the up side I really like what I'm seeing from Lagares (plus Thor & Reynolds today), who I figured for the bench (& still do). Keith says it's good problem to have but not when you want Conforto playing as much as possible. This will be interesting.

I want good, talented, athletic, gorgeous, high-ahieving players playing as much as possible. I'm with Keith. Good problem to have.

Edgy MD
Apr 13 2016 07:39 PM
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I think we found Yoenis' point-of-desire.