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Edgy MD
Apr 21 2016 02:40 PM

Fired by ESPN for posting too much stupid stuff on social media.

What a dumb reason to go down. Especially for a guy who actually needs a steady paycheck.

Ceetar
Apr 21 2016 02:49 PM
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quite a threshhold of stupid stuff shared too.

Centerfield
Apr 21 2016 02:58 PM
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I am giving serious thought to launching my "How Not To Be a Douchebag Consultants Ltd." business.

cooby classic
Apr 21 2016 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't be broken hearted if social media just went away

d'Kong76
Apr 21 2016 03:21 PM
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cooby wrote:
I wouldn't be broken hearted if social media just went away

Twitter, #in_particular

cooby classic
Apr 21 2016 03:31 PM
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That would be a good start

Ceetar
Apr 21 2016 03:39 PM
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then it'd take us longer to realize Schilling was a raging hateful asshole and he might still be working.

cooby classic
Apr 21 2016 03:45 PM
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Yeah but the problem is there are people out there that make this shit up and then put it out there for idiots like schilling to reshare

d'Kong76
Apr 21 2016 03:47 PM
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Well, Schilling was kinda douchey before Twitter but whatev...

cooby classic
Apr 21 2016 03:48 PM
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Well yeah. But he i

smg58
Apr 21 2016 03:49 PM
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As abhorrent as I find Schilling's posts to be, I'm more troubled by the fact that expressing a political opinion in a forum not directly connected to work can get somebody fired. I have a lot of Facebook friends who would be in trouble if this became the norm, and while Schilling is more of a public figure than most people, I don't see why that matters. (Keep in mind that the people who "make this shit up and then put it out there for idiots like schilling to reshare" are still, at least presumably, employed.)

Frayed Knot
Apr 21 2016 03:55 PM
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smg58 wrote:
... and while Schilling is more of a public figure than most people, I don't see why that matters.

It's the public figure working for a very public company thing in this case.
That and that this is like the 57th time he's done something along these lines in the last year or three.

cooby classic
Apr 21 2016 04:00 PM
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smg58 wrote:
As abhorrent as I find Schilling's posts to be, I'm more troubled by the fact that expressing a political opinion in a forum not directly connected to work can get somebody fired. I have a lot of Facebook friends who would be in trouble if this became the norm, and while Schilling is more of a public figure than most people, I don't see why that matters. (Keep in mind that the people who "make this shit up and then put it out there for idiots like schilling to reshare" are still, at least presumably, employed.)

Sorry my grandson bit me and interrupted my last comment. But this is pretty much where I am going with this. There are so many of these dumb things out there that if you don't 'like and share' you'll go to hell or your grandma will die or you house will fall in a sinkhole or whatever.

And I see friends that I thought were intelligent 'liking and sharing' them.

I searched and found the pic that got him fired and its atrocious. Good thing I don't work or I'd be fired for saying that. Not to mention the fact that personally I don't even know what the hell the picture is trying to tell us. Is it pro trans gender or not?

The transgender people I know, and I'll admit there are very few, at least are attractive and we're both before and after.

d'Kong76
Apr 21 2016 04:01 PM
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When ya work for Michael Mouse & Co ya gotta keep it rated G.
(I don't really know what Schilling said, I haven't read anything on it yet)

Ceetar
Apr 21 2016 04:11 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
smg58 wrote:
... and while Schilling is more of a public figure than most people, I don't see why that matters.

It's the public figure working for a very public company thing in this case.
That and that this is like the 57th time he's done something along these lines in the last year or three.

right, it's not so much that he's saying/sharing abhorrent things, it's that people, the customers, want no part of him. ESPNs barely cares since we're forced to pay them anyway, but he'd doubled down so many times that there was literally no value to ESPN to keep him.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 21 2016 04:15 PM
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I think idiots like Schilling (and Trump) use the twit to advance their personal brand purposefully absent of whether the shit they say is valid or not because saying dumb shit wins eyeballs and a more feverent strain of support from a smaller but more loyal group of moron worshippers, while courting controversy as a means to get still more attention and pass oneself off as aggrieved. That's a wellspring of attention in and of itself.

I'm sure he doesn't believe in half the shit he posts.

I'm also sure he bathes in money and doesn't need the ESPN gig.

d'Kong76
Apr 21 2016 04:22 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I'm also sure he bathes in money and doesn't need the ESPN gig.

Unless his accountants are douches too he should have enough to burn.
bbrdotcom says he made over $114,000,000 throwing a baseball.

themetfairy
Apr 21 2016 04:23 PM
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cooby wrote:
There are so many of these dumb things out there that if you don't 'like and share' you'll go to hell or your grandma will die or you house will fall in a sinkhole or whatever.

And I see friends that I thought were intelligent 'liking and sharing' them.

That is a huge peeve of mine - I absolutely hate that stupidity.

Or the one where someone posts something, you reply to it, and they send you a "gotcha - you fell into a trap. Now you have to post one of these statuses as your own." No I don't. And I lose a lot of respect for anyone who tries to pull that shit.

cooby classic
Apr 21 2016 04:27 PM
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Agreed.

By the way I hope you all know I am not defending schilling here. Just griping that social media has become nothing more than sharing other people's thoughts and crap creations

Edgy MD
Apr 21 2016 04:30 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I'm also sure he bathes in money and doesn't need the ESPN gig.

Unless his accountants are douches too he should have enough to burn.
bbrdotcom says he made over $114,000,000 throwing a baseball.

Well, he's endured some massive lawsuits, though how they've played themselves out is beyond my ken.

Schilling was previously on the other side of this when he called out Twitter users who made hateful posts about his daughter, outing them by name, leading to at least two of them getting punished — one losing a job (with the Yankees), and another being suspended from school.

d'Kong76
Apr 21 2016 04:36 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Well, he's endured some massive lawsuits, though how they've played themselves out is beyond my ken.

No idea either.

TransMonk
Apr 21 2016 04:43 PM
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Curt Schilling says he is ‘tapped out’ financially after the failure of his video game company

This article is a few years old, but I'd bet he still needed whatever ESPN was giving him.

d'Kong76
Apr 21 2016 05:01 PM
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Yeah, I kinda remember this now. Phwam.

cooby classic
Apr 21 2016 05:03 PM
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The point about the picture in question is not that it is someone you would not want in the ladies restroom, it's someone you'd avoid period.

Caitlin Jenner, fine. Deranged old guys with hooker clothes on, no.

Or as someone so famously called them on mofo 'hootchie cloths'

Ceetar
Apr 21 2016 05:25 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
Curt Schilling says he is ‘tapped out’ financially after the failure of his video game company

This article is a few years old, but I'd bet he still needed whatever ESPN was giving him.

maybe, but he did get like 50 million in investments for that company if I recall.

social media is what you put into it. Though the random people talking politics has pushed into my carefully selected timelines and filters so that's taking some work. Like anything else in life, it's got it's pluses and minuses.

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Lefty Specialist
Apr 21 2016 06:29 PM
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Schilling's been a jerk for a while now, so this isn't a surprise. He kind of invites it. I'm guessing after an appropriate period of time he'll wind up on Fox Sports.

Ashie62
Apr 21 2016 11:40 PM
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Schilling lost investor, personal and taxpayer (Rhode Island) money.

Why do public figures impale themselves on social media? With great power comes responsibility.

Ceetar
Apr 22 2016 12:53 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Schilling lost investor, personal and taxpayer (Rhode Island) money.

Why do public figures impale themselves on social media? With great power comes responsibility.

Because they think they're better than us, smarter, more informed. And they never used to get called out on it. It was harder to fact check and when that became easier it still wasn't that easy to mass-distribute the fact, instantly, that the public figure is full of it.

Edgy MD
Apr 22 2016 01:02 AM
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There's something more, though. There's something of the adrenaline junkie's desire to flirt with his own self-destruction in there.

Frayed Knot
Apr 22 2016 02:40 AM
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Schilling always liked to talk and would rarely pass on the opportunity to do so. Remember that he's the guy who'd show up, willingly and un-announced, at 'Sons of Sam Horn' to talk baseball with on-line Red Sox fans.
And, like celebrities in a lot of fields (particularly in this day & age), I suspect that he lost sight of the idea that this tendency to share his wonderful self has its limits. One would think he'd have realized that two or three or four suspensions/admonishments ago ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 22 2016 07:22 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Schilling lost investor, personal and taxpayer (Rhode Island) money.

Why do public figures impale themselves on social media? With great power comes responsibility.

Because they think they're better than us, smarter, more informed. And they never used to get called out on it. It was harder to fact check and when that became easier it still wasn't that easy to mass-distribute the fact, instantly, that the public figure is full of it.

He also is the kind of guy who seems to resent being told what/what not to do and when to do/not do it.

Congratulations, Curt! You're a jobless iconoclast!

smg58 wrote:
As abhorrent as I find Schilling's posts to be, I'm more troubled by the fact that expressing a political opinion in a forum not directly connected to work can get somebody fired. I have a lot of Facebook friends who would be in trouble if this became the norm, and while Schilling is more of a public figure than most people, I don't see why that matters. (Keep in mind that the people who "make this shit up and then put it out there for idiots like schilling to reshare" are still, at least presumably, employed.)

Stupid actions often have stupid consequences.

Ceetar
Apr 22 2016 12:23 PM
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Isn't Schilling the guy that claimed he'd take a drug test "right here, right now" and then backed down when someone called him on it?

Edgy MD
Apr 22 2016 12:35 PM
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The guy I associated with that vow-and-run maneuver was future-Met Gary Sheffield.

Frayed Knot
Apr 22 2016 12:46 PM
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I remember it as Sosa.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 24 2016 02:08 AM
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Twitter have become a nest of hate speech.

Facebook is pretty bad, too. I have no idea why people post political stuff on there. I did like meme not long ago that said something like, "I've changed my mind on a political issue because I read a post on Facebook -- said no one, ever."

After the Flint stuff, I did unfollow a bunch of people because I got tired of reading nonsense. I'll follow again later, I'm sure.

For work, we post informational graphics and releases, but I can't think of too many overtly political things.

As for Schilling, I don't agree with him on issues, but I get a little queasy with this idea that we fire people because we disagree with them. I do understand that high-profile people represent their employer whether they are at work or at home, and that's something a person needs to remember. And I get that an employer can set conditions for working at their place, and that people working there accept those conditions or choose to work elsewhere.

And I think it was on ESPN recently where another on-air personality wore a "Caucasions" t-shirt with a logo of a white guy instead of CHief Wahoo. I think that was actually on the air, and not on social media. Seems like an inconsistent policy.

Ceetar
Apr 24 2016 04:09 AM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Twitter have become a nest of hate speech.

not a nest, a lens.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 24 2016 11:10 AM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
And I think it was on ESPN recently where another on-air personality wore a "Caucasions" t-shirt with a logo of a white guy instead of CHief Wahoo. I think that was actually on the air, and not on social media. Seems like an inconsistent policy.

Somehow you entirely missed the point of the Caucasians shirt. Anyone who was offended was supposed to take away a lesson, that Chief Wahoo is also offensive and should be retired. Or do you think the Caucasians shirt is offensive but Chief Wahoo isn't? That's an inconsistent policy!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 24 2016 11:51 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
And I think it was on ESPN recently where another on-air personality wore a "Caucasions" t-shirt with a logo of a white guy instead of CHief Wahoo. I think that was actually on the air, and not on social media. Seems like an inconsistent policy.

Somehow you entirely missed the point of the Caucasians shirt. Anyone who was offended was supposed to take away a lesson, that Chief Wahoo is also offensive and should be retired. Or do you think the Caucasians shirt is offensive but Chief Wahoo isn't? That's an inconsistent policy!

I think you misunderstood my point. I wasn't offended by the shirt. I was pointing out that ESPN fired one staffer for making a political or controversial statement on social media, while another staffer was able to make a statement on air - and seemed to be praised for it.

Clearly it's time to retire Chief Wahoo. I'd say change the team name, too.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 24 2016 11:55 AM
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I agree with you on that. It's time to bring back the Cleveland Spiders.

Edgy MD
Apr 24 2016 12:02 PM
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I don't think he was fired for making a controversial or political point. (The Network used to have Rush Limbaugh on the payroll.) I think he was fired for making a political point in a nasty dehumanizing manner, one that was embarrassing to his employer.

As locked in as folks are to their political sides, there IS a way to talk about an issue like the North Carolina law. That it's also a gross departure from the position of his employer is certain relevant, but it could be manageable.

I tend to think that satire has way too outsized a place in our culture and in our discourse, and we've gravitated toward thinking that anything satirical is credible. Curt Schilling sure has.

I've had a co-worker (VP level) forced to resign for far smaller transgressions in his social media life.

(Come to think of it, I may get in trouble myself for a post from yesterday.)

Edgy MD
May 02 2016 08:28 PM
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Apparently, Fox Sports has taken a pass on him for now.

Does Breitbart have a sports division?

TransMonk
May 02 2016 08:30 PM
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ESPN continuing to cut him even though he's already gone, too.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/02/curt-schil ... d-sox-doc/

Edgy MD
May 02 2016 08:36 PM
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Yeah, that strikes me as a nutty dude getting paranoid.

ESPN's "story" is utterly consistent with usual practice. You'd be shocked at how many Fresh Prince of Bel Air I've only seen part of because the game ran long and they needed to get back on schedule in time for the evening news.

Grow up, Curt, and stop stalking your old girlfriend.

TransMonk
May 06 2016 09:30 PM
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A Donald Trump-Curt Schilling 2016 Ticket Makes Way Too Much Sense