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G-Fafif May 18 2016 11:59 PM

Remember when Matt Harvey vs. Stephen Strasburg represented ace overload? We already had the ultimate showdown of 2016 on Tuesday in Syndergaard vs. Scherzer, but once upon a time, in April of 2013, Harvey Day was eclipsing Strasmas as the occasion of choice in the NL East and we all knew who was better. Anyway, those old guys go at it tonight and, in a limited context, we'll hopefully party like it's fourteen years after 1999.

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 09:30 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Washington at NY Mets When: 7:10 PM ET, Thursday, May 19, 2016 Where: Citi Field, New York City, New York SportsDirect Inc. The Washington Nationals and New York Mets kicked off their three-game set with a stirring pitching matchup and will wrap it up with another marquee duel on the mound. Nationals right-hander Stephen Strasburg takes an unblemished record into Thursday's rubber match of the series against Matt Harvey and the host Mets. Strasburg, making his second appearance since signing a seven-year, $175 million extension, is 6-0 overall and a perfect 4-0 with a 1.67 ERA in four road starts. Washington coasted to a 7-1 victory Wednesday to snap a three-game losing streak in which in had managed a total of two runs. Harvey is still struggling to develop any consistency and will attempt to bounce back from his worst start of the season for New York, which has dropped five of its last six. Harvey has owned Nationals slugger Bryce Harper, holding the reigning National League MVP hitless in 20 career at-bats. TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, MASN (Washington), SNY (New York) PITCHING MATCHUP: Nationals RH Stephen Strasburg (6-0, 2.95 ERA) vs. Mets RH Matt Harvey (3-5, 4.93) Strasburg remained undefeated with six innings of three-run ball against Miami on Saturday while posting his seventh consecutive start with at least seven strikeouts. Strasburg has not been as sharp in his last two turns, surrendering a total of three homers and walking six batters, but Washington has provided him with at least five runs in seven straight outings. Strasburg is 4-3 with a 2.78 ERA against New York, which is batting .211 against him. After stringing together four consecutive decent starts, Harvey was rocked for five runs on a season-high 11 hits over 5 2/3 innings in a 5-2 loss at Colorado on Friday. He won his previous turn by striking out 10 and giving up two runs on four hits over six innings at San Diego on May 8. Ryan Zimmerman and Jayson Werth are a combined 8-for-36 against Harvey, who is 3-3 with a 1.77 ERA and .197 batting average against in 10 starts versus the Nationals. WALK-OFFS: 1. Nationals 3B Anthony Rendon is 10-for-28 over the past eight games. 2. Mets LHP Steven Matz said he is ready to make his start Friday after throwing a bullpen session on Wednesday. 3. Werth stretched his hitting streak to four games by reaching base five times to match a career high.

Mets Willets Point May 19 2016 09:34 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Har-vey's Bet-ter!

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 09:36 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Expecting big things from The Harvster tonight. Big. Huge. Expect Harvey!

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 09:38 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Mets Willets Point wrote: Har-vey's Bet-ter! No-ot Curr-ent-ly (OK, so the scansion needs a bit of work)

Lefty Specialist May 19 2016 10:21 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

If Harvey coughs up a hairball tonight there could be adverse fan reaction, methinks.

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 02:35 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Granderson, RF Wright, 3B Conforto, LF Cespedes, CF Duda, 1B Walker, 2B Cabrera, SS Plawecki, C Harvey, P

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2016 02:37 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Predicting a spectacular return from 3 days of bench-jockeying for Doodoo. The Ultimate Man versus the Ultimate Meatball.

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 02:56 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Revere CF Werth LF Harper RF Murphy 2B Zimmerman 1B Rendon 3B Ramos C Espinosa SS Stra$burg P

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:05 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Here's another way that Harvey and Strasburg are linked (or contrasted). The Nats shut down Strasburg per a strict innings pitched/workload limit in his comeback from surgery season. The Nats said they would've stuck to that plan even if the Nats went to the WS. By contrast --- well, you know what by contrast means. By contrast, Harvey found himself in the middle of a poorly handled controversy over his workload in his (2015) comeback season. If you ask me, the difference is in the owners. The Wilpons couldn't give a flying fuck about Harvey's long term health because they probably have no intention of giving Harvey that next big contract. The Wilpons probably loath Harvey anyways because they pretty much hate any player who doesn't fall in line like a slave. And Harvey, with his outsized personality, well you could figure that one out. So if eff n jeff couldn't care less about Harvey's long term health, they might as well ride him out and wear him out -- their only goals re Harvey being short term, like last year's playoff run -- which might've given the franchise new financial life. Meanwhile, some people are starting to whisper or imply things or call into question Harvey's health already.

Edgy MD May 19 2016 03:07 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

No, the Mets limited Harvey's workload all season. They just did it piecemeal throughout the year, rather than shut him down at a pre-set limit.

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:10 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Edgy MD wrote: No, the Mets limited Harvey's workload all season. They just did it piecemeal throughout the year, rather than shut him down at a pre-set limit. They didn't limit Harvey like Strasburg was limited. Harvey's load or limit was re-calibrated or adjusted once it became apparent that the Mets were post-season bound.

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:12 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: No, the Mets limited Harvey's workload all season. They just did it piecemeal throughout the year, rather than shut him down at a pre-set limit. They didn't limit Harvey like Strasburg was limited. Harvey's load or limit was re-calibrated or adjusted once it became apparent that the Mets were post-season bound. Otherwise, that big Boras/Harvey/Alderson blowout would never have happened.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2016 03:13 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

I'm not whispering. Harvey's fat!

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:14 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: No, the Mets limited Harvey's workload all season. They just did it piecemeal throughout the year, rather than shut him down at a pre-set limit. They didn't limit Harvey like Strasburg was limited. Harvey's load or limit was re-calibrated or adjusted once it became apparent that the Mets were post-season bound. Otherwise, that big Boras/Harvey/Alderson blowout would never have happened. You could think what you want, but in my mind, the Wilpons are exploiting the shit out of Harvey, and might have already jeopardized his future for an immediate payday. TBD

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:16 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm not whispering. Harvey's fat! That, too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2016 03:20 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: You could think what you want, but in my mind, the Wilpons are exploiting the shit out of Harvey, and might have already jeopardized his future for an immediate payday. TBD I don't really believe this. I mean, I believe that Harvey's antics and his agent bother them, and that they are extremely unlikely to sign him again, but it's only fair to consider how they specifically resisted bringing him back 5 minutes after the surgery like Hovvey demanded. They don't intend to injure the guy.

Edgy MD May 19 2016 03:30 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: No, the Mets limited Harvey's workload all season. They just did it piecemeal throughout the year, rather than shut him down at a pre-set limit. They didn't limit Harvey like Strasburg was limited. Harvey's load or limit was re-calibrated or adjusted once it became apparent that the Mets were post-season bound. Yes, I made it abundantly clear that it was different. You left out any information suggesting anything at all was done for Harvey. That just isn't true. The main difference was that the Mets decided all bets were off for the post-season, and the Nats decided otherwise. That's a value judgment, but I certainly supported the Mets decision. And I don't loathe any player that doesn't fall in line like a slave.

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:34 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: You could think what you want, but in my mind, the Wilpons are exploiting the shit out of Harvey, and might have already jeopardized his future for an immediate payday. TBD I don't really believe this. I mean, I believe that Harvey's antics and his agent bother them, and that they are extremely unlikely to sign him again, but it's only fair to consider how they specifically resisted bringing him back 5 minutes after the surgery like Hovvey demanded. They don't intend to injure the guy. I don't think they intend to injure the guy either. That's insanity. But if given the choice of taking a 15 or 20% chance of compromising Harvey's chances of one day signing a nine figure contract so that the Mets might make an extra $40M or $80M in the post-season, I think I know how the Mets are thinking. Especially these Mets.

Edgy MD May 19 2016 03:34 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: No, the Mets limited Harvey's workload all season. They just did it piecemeal throughout the year, rather than shut him down at a pre-set limit. They didn't limit Harvey like Strasburg was limited. Harvey's load or limit was re-calibrated or adjusted once it became apparent that the Mets were post-season bound. Otherwise, that big Boras/Harvey/Alderson blowout would never have happened. You could think what you want, but in my mind, the Wilpons are exploiting the shit out of Harvey, and might have already jeopardized his future for an immediate payday. TBD This is weird and totally meta. Are you arguing with yourself here?

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:36 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: No, the Mets limited Harvey's workload all season. They just did it piecemeal throughout the year, rather than shut him down at a pre-set limit. They didn't limit Harvey like Strasburg was limited. Harvey's load or limit was re-calibrated or adjusted once it became apparent that the Mets were post-season bound. Yes, I made it abundantly clear that it was different. You left out any information suggesting anything at all was done for Harvey. That just isn't true. The main difference was that the Mets decided all bets were off for the post-season, and the Nats decided otherwise. That's a value judgment, but I certainly supported the Mets decision. And I don't loathe any player that doesn't fall in line like a slave. It's very commendable that the Mets monitored Harvey's workload for much of last season, but there's a line of thinking out there that if you extend a pitcher situated as Harvey was for an extra month or so of pitching, you might be undermining or nullifying all of the earlier coddling.

Ceetar May 19 2016 03:40 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I don't think they intend to injure the guy either. That's insanity. But if given the choice of taking a 15 or 20% chance of compromising Harvey's chances of one day signing a nine figure contract so that the Mets might make an extra $40M or $80M in the post-season, I think I know how the Mets are thinking. Especially these Mets. I hope so. That's what I'd want them to do. I don't think it's a 15-20% chance either, I think it's very close to the number of extra pitches he throws. So if instead of 3300 pitches he throws 3630, he's roughly 10% more likely to get injured.

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 03:43 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 19 2016 03:48 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: It's very commendable that the Mets monitored Harvey's workload for much of last season, but there's a line of thinking out there that if you extend a pitcher situated as Harvey was for an extra month or so of pitching, you might be undermining or nullifying all of the earlier coddling. Although the Mets also had Harvey wait for a longer period before returning to pitching post-surgery than the Nats did with Strasburg. Strasburg had his surgery earlier in the year than Harvey but also was allowed to return in September for 5 starts whereas it was the following April until MH threw a pitch in anger that counted. Add up the post-TJ innings and SS threw 24 + 159 after approx 12 months off in an Sept thru August span while MH tossed 189 + 26 (32 more) during an April thru Oct time-span after sitting nearly 20 months

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:48 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Yeah, I know. But let's not over complicate this discussion with nit-picky minutiae that distorts the conversation more than anything else. I'm simply saying that I think the Mets'll compromise Harvey's long-term future for short-term gain. Like last year's end of the year handling of Harvey for a post-season run so that the Mets - a team in financial ruin - might make dozens of millions of dollars.

Edgy MD May 19 2016 03:53 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Yeah, relax. With your facts and whatnot. It's just a thread.

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 03:54 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, relax. With your facts and whatnot. It's just a thread. What does that mean?

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 03:57 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Sounds like extra rest on one end is "a line of thinking" while on the other it becomes "distorting nit-picky minutiae"

Edgy MD May 19 2016 04:05 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, relax. With your facts and whatnot. It's just a thread. What does that mean? I guess it means I disagree with you deriding obvious information that runs contrary to your thesis as nitpicking.

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 04:13 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Frayed Knot wrote: Sounds like extra rest on one end is "a line of thinking" while on the other it becomes "distorting nit-picky minutiae" No. The Nats had a plan for Strasburg that was not going to be altered by the team's post-season aspirations. Not so, the Mets. The Mets might've treated Harvey with kid gloves at first, but it's easy to coddle Harvey when the Mets are putting up an offense that is of historical ineptitude and it seems that that Mets are still a year or two away from contention. But when the Mets suddenly transformed themselves in mid-season, their initial plans for Harvey went out the window. They no longer followed "that plan". And again, when you have him pitching intense playoff innings in October, well there is a credible line of medical thought that that new workload is capable of nullifying all of the earlier handling or coddling of Harvey. And the Mets were aware of that.

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 04:15 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, relax. With your facts and whatnot. It's just a thread. What does that mean? I guess it means I disagree with you deriding obvious information that runs contrary to your thesis as nitpicking. It's not contrary. When the Mets dedided to extend Harvey to the end of the post-season, it might've nullified whatever they did earlier. Because that initial plan included shutting down Harvey at some point. And without the shut-down, the initial plan might've been compromised. It's like eliminating entire sections of a cake recipe. The cake ain't gonna come out like the recipe sez it should if you only do the first six out of nine instructions. And you shouldn't be bragging about getting the first six steps right if you left out the last three. Which is what you're doing.

Zvon May 19 2016 04:53 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Lets all agree on one thing. We need Matt Harvey to pitch like an ace tonight. An uber ace. LETS GO METS!

Ashie62 May 19 2016 05:15 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Zvon wrote: Lets all agree on one thing. We need Matt Harvey to pitch like an ace tonight. An uber ace. LETS GO METS! Yes! Serenity now. LGM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 05:48 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: But when the Mets suddenly transformed themselves in mid-season, their initial plans for Harvey went out the window. They no longer followed "that plan". Depending on whether you buy that the 180 inning "plan" (to pull one number that was mentioned) was a cast-in-stone number, as agent Boras claimed, or more just a general target, as Alderson did. And, yes, they went over it due to the post-season; whether that was a good decision or a bad one is debatable. But the part I'm not buying is the one where said decision could only have been made in light of the team having no reason to care about his long-term health based on already pre-deciding not to re-sign him when his FA eligibility comes up three-plus seasons down the road. As if we, or anyone else for that matter, know in advance what kind of a pitcher Harvey's going to be, what his state of mind will be, or what the financial state of the team and the market will be when that time rolls around. If you recall, numerous folks, including some around here, KNEW that there was no chance of resigning Cespedes because the payroll ceiling would not and could not be increased - and that story was peddled right up until about 20 minutes before it actually happened. But yet now we know what is or isn't going to happen in the winter of '18-'19 and that decisions made in September of '15 were made based on those "facts".

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2016 06:21 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Harvey sucks.

Lefty Specialist May 19 2016 06:29 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Boy, Strasburg was just toying with them there.

Ashie62 May 19 2016 06:35 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Throwup Thursday.

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 06:39 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

We gotta stop walking Werth. There are only three guys in that lineup who are hitting right now and we keep walking the .220 guy batting in front of them!

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2016 06:52 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

still feels like they have all the momentum

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2016 07:06 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

gross.

Lefty Specialist May 19 2016 07:09 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Throwback Thursday.....all the way to 1962.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2016 07:13 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

What a shameful performance

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 07:13 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Well the rest of my night just became free, any suggestions?

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 07:14 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: What a shameful performance What, other than the one error, the other play not made, Wright throwing to the wrong base, and the eighteen line drives, it wasn't so bad.

Chad Ochoseis May 19 2016 07:15 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

I just got done working. I take it that I shouldn't bother turning on the game.

Zvon May 19 2016 07:18 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Ashie62 wrote: Yes! Serenity now. lmao. I needed that, thanks. So could things go any worse than this? We can afford to have one pitcher underperform, but I would have never thought it would be The Dark Blight. We're not out of this. We can hit 7 homers. ;)

Zvon May 19 2016 07:18 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Ashie62 wrote: Throwup Thursday. Another needed laugh. :)

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 07:19 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

d'Kong76 wrote: Expecting big things from The Harvster tonight. Big. Huge. Expect Harvey! O wah Ta di Kayam (rinse and repeat)

bmfc1 May 19 2016 07:24 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Relax: Colon and Harvey pitch Monday and Tuesday at WSH.

cooby May 19 2016 07:45 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Score? And I take it Harvey did not do well?

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 07:47 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

bmfc1 wrote: Relax: Colon and Harvey pitch Monday and Tuesday at WSH. I can only imagine what Carpenter & Santangelo sound like in the middle of this one.

Zvon May 19 2016 07:56 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

9-1 Blahhhhshington

MFS62 May 19 2016 07:58 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

cooby wrote: Score? And I take it Harvey did not do well? Think Custer against a bunch of pissed off Native Americans. Later

bmfc1 May 19 2016 08:00 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Frayed Knot wrote: Relax: Colon and Harvey pitch Monday and Tuesday at WSH. I can only imagine what Carpenter & Santangelo sound like in the middle of this one. They are giggling like the girly-men they are. I now have WOR on via mlb.com but it's 5 seconds ahead of the MASN feed.

cooby May 19 2016 08:02 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

MFS62 wrote: cooby wrote: Score? And I take it Harvey did not do well? Think Custer against a bunch of pissed off Native Americans. Later That poor kid. I won't claim to be his biggest fan but wow what he must be feeling...

Edgy MD May 19 2016 08:03 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Plawecki, lead the counter-attack.

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 08:10 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Keith plays the kahnfidence card talking about Stra$.

Edgy MD May 19 2016 08:15 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

I want my Murphy back.

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 08:21 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

I think getting Harvey back would more suit our 2016 interests.

Zvon May 19 2016 08:27 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Edgy MD wrote: I want my Murphy back. The logic I'm hearing around the Metroverse is that if we signed Muffy, no Cespedes. I imagine this leans more towards the truth than not.

Zvon May 19 2016 08:28 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

d'Kong76 wrote: I think getting Harvey back would more suit our 2016 interests. Yea, this. Walkers gonna be fine.

Fman99 May 19 2016 08:47 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

I'd like to throw this particular Thursday game back, thanks.

Zvon May 19 2016 08:49 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Is it really true that while asleep you can't snore and dream at the same time? No joke. I just read that and it concerns me.

Edgy MD May 19 2016 08:50 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Zvon wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: I think getting Harvey back would more suit our 2016 interests. Yea, this. Walkers gonna be fine. Well, I didn't say I want my Niese back. But Mr. .400 is putting on a hitting clinic.

Zvon May 19 2016 08:51 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Awww, a home run might have cheered me up a little. Lil bit.

Zvon May 19 2016 08:56 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

The directors cut: [fimg=400:1wrn70we]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci3UbSQW0AI9CGk.jpg[/fimg:1wrn70we]

Zvon May 19 2016 09:00 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Sometimes a good catch in a bad game can sustain you.

Zvon May 19 2016 09:04 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Muffy went 4-for-11 with four RBIs and two runs scored this series. Yea, I miss him too.

Zvon May 19 2016 09:06 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Big Mets Fan ?@bigmetsfan1 5m5 minutes ago Tonight, David tied Shoeless Joe Jackson for 399th on @MLB's all time hit list with 1772 hits @DavidWrightHits This is not getting much publicity. I'm just going to try an compile the good stuff. One thing twitter does is confirms the fact that there are soooooooo many assholes in the world.

d'Kong76 May 19 2016 09:23 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

bmfc1 May 19 2016 09:28 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

I accidentally (really) put on the Nationals post-game show: Johnny Holiday, claps his hands: "boy that was fun". Ray Knight, claps his hands: "that was fun to watch." Thanks Ray.

Zvon May 19 2016 09:44 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Andrea Mallis ?@virgoinservice 10m10 minutes ago It's not mechanical, it's Neptune square Matt Harvey Mars, a crucial planet for an athlete.dark night of the soul for the #Mets Dark Knight I'm trying to confirm this report.....

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 10:58 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Lost in the midst of the obvious bigger story of Harvey getting worse instead of better: a whopping 6 hits today, all of them singles.

batmagadanleadoff May 19 2016 11:53 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

excerpt (with emphasis): Collins said he believes Harvey is suffering from a hangover after logging 216 innings last season. That was the most innings ever in a first season back from Tommy John surgery. "As I tried to explain to Matt again, there's some people that don't believe it -- this kid went above and beyond last year," Collins said. "And I'm not sure he's recuperated from it. I'm going to stand by it. It's not an excuse. We don't make excuses here. I think it might be a reason. I think there's a difference between a reason and an excuse. That's where I stand on it. I've told Matt, I still trust him. I still believe in him. I've seen him do it. But we'll take a hard look at what the next move is going to be." Nationals phenom Bryce Harper agreed that last year's workload might be catching up to Harvey. "It kind of goes back to, what, he had surgery last year and then he forced 230 innings?" Harper said. "I feel bad for him. He comes off the mound, and he gets booed. I work out with him in the offseason. Being around him a little bit when working out, he works his tail off. You never want to see a guy do that. All the best to him." http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/15619 ... emporarily

Benjamin Grimm May 20 2016 07:47 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Cast your vote!

batmagadanleadoff May 20 2016 10:24 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

G-Fafif wrote: Remember when Matt Harvey vs. Stephen Strasburg represented ace overload? We already had the ultimate showdown of 2016 on Tuesday in Syndergaard vs. Scherzer, but once upon a time, in April of 2013, Harvey Day was eclipsing Strasmas as the occasion of choice in the NL East and we all knew who was better. Harvey took home the NL Pitcher of the Month award that April, 2013 -- the last time a Met won that award. Presently, Jake Arrietta has won the last three NL Pitcher of the Month awards, dating back to August of last season -- an unprecedented NL accomplishment - matched in the AL by one-time Mets Pedro Martinez (BOS) and Johan Santana (MIN). Bartolo Colon won the POTM award an impressive four times; twice with the Indians and once each with the Angels and Athletics. QUIZ (Difficulty level -- kinda tough if you're not a fan of the team in question) In one season, four different pitchers from the same team won the POTM award -- including a three consecutive month POTM winning streak. In one single post, name the team and the four pitchers.

Zvon May 20 2016 10:39 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

ew, I'm not sure what year they started doing the player of the month thing.

batmagadanleadoff May 20 2016 10:41 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

Zvon wrote: ew, I'm not sure what year they started doing the player of the month thing. '75 in the NL. '79 in the AL.

Zvon May 20 2016 10:47 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

batmagadanleadoff wrote: QUIZ (Difficulty level -- kinda tough if you're not a fan of the team in question) In one season, four different pitchers from the same team won the POTM award -- including a three consecutive month POTM winning streak. In one single post, name the team and the four pitchers. Braves? Maddux Smoltz Glavine & Avery

batmagadanleadoff May 20 2016 10:50 PM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

I figgered that someone would guess that era Braves staff, probably right off the bat. So here's a clue. It's not the Braves. And here's another clue for you all: The walrus is Paul.

batmagadanleadoff May 21 2016 11:47 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday

QUIZ (Difficulty level -- kinda tough if you're not a fan of the team in question) In one season, four different pitchers from the same team won the POTM award -- including a three consecutive month POTM winning streak. In one single post, name the team and the four pitchers. We were looking for the following starting pitchers on the 1979 Astros: [fimg=350]http://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1979/Topps/534/Ken-Forsch.jpg?id=08bb7e40-fe2a-4d88-8607-68d76a0c1e39&size=zoom[/fimg][fimg=350]http://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1979/Topps/68/Joe-Niekro.jpg?id=a234a657-8095-415c-960c-b33a6a5aa50b&size=zoom[/fimg] [fimg=350]http://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1979/Topps/471/Joaquin-Andujar.jpg?id=860dc27c-37ee-4ff7-b966-aa066f8e43b1&size=zoom[/fimg][fimg=350]http://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1979/O-Pee-Chee/310/JR-Richard.jpg?id=5008f6d6-15d8-4fe2-9f56-c36d0f5d27e0&size=zoom[/fimg] who won the POTM award in April, May, June, and September of 1979, respectively. J.R. Richard won the award in April of 1980, his second straight month as the NL POTM, giving those Astros five of the last seven awards. Like Richard, two Mets won the POTM award in September of one season and then in April of the very next season; Dwight Gooden ('85/'86) and Johan Santana ('08/'09). Those are also the only instances in which a Met won the award in two consecutive months. Here's the list of every Met who won the POTM award: Tom Seaver - June, 1975 Jerry Koosman - July, 1976 Tom Seaver - April, 1977 Pat Zachry - July, 1980 Jesse Orosco - August, 1983 Ron Darling - June, 1984 Dwight Gooden - September, 1984 Dwight Gooden - September, 1985 Dwight Gooden - April, 1986 Sid Fernandez - April, 1987 David Cone - May, 1988 Dwight Gooden - September, 1990 Bret Saberhagen - July, 1994 Bobby Jones - May, 1996 Al Leiter - June, 1999 Al Leiter - June, 2000 John Maine - April, 2006 Johan Santana - September, 2008 Johan Santana - April, 2009 R.A. Dickey - June, 2012 Matt Harvey - April, 2013

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2016 08:23 AM Re: IGT 5/19/16: WAS@NYM -- Throwback Thursday