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I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Centerfield May 12 2016 01:49 PM

I know. He's a bench player. 25th men generally aren't good on any club. But I just find I get disproportionately pissed at him. Every time he bats I think to myself "How is this guy still on the team?" I know it's completely unfair, but I guess in my mind he's kind of the poster boy for the first half 2015 Mets futility. He's always going to be half of that Mayberry-Campbell-hitting-4-and-5 lineup. Wanted to strangle him when he popped up with 2 and 3rd and no one out. It was even worse when he turned into a statue with a 3-1 count and the bases loaded. He was definitely fishing for a walk there. Even he doesn't think he can get the job done. I went to bed after that and was convinced that those runs were going to haunt us. That the Noah Syndergaard Game was going to end up as the Eric Campbell Left An Army Of Men On Base And It Came Back to Bite Us In The Ass Game. And it's not like the guy I wanted (Juan Uribe) is lighting it up (.619 OPS) either. Dunno. Just don't like the guy. Let's call up Dilson.

seawolf17 May 12 2016 01:50 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

No, it's entirely rational.

Edgy MD May 12 2016 01:53 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

He should have swung the bat, but those were two good sliders. I'm all for replacing him with a more versatile player, but that isn't Dilson.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 12 2016 01:55 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Believe that he gets at least a temp demotion this weekend while Gilmo returns as the swinger and Matz rests.

Edgy MD May 12 2016 02:00 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Reynolds has been hit and miss with the bat this year, having some good games but never really getting it going. Another option is Bronx-born T.J. Rivera.

Centerfield May 12 2016 02:00 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Edgy MD wrote: He should have swung the bat, but those were two good sliders. I'm all for replacing him with a more versatile player, but that isn't Dilson. The guy we should have gotten, in retrospect, was Ryan Raburn. Tearing it up for the Rockies, apparently unaware that it's an even year. But what can you do. I hear you on the versatility, but I don't see an immediate upgrade that's available there. So let's just get a hitter.

Edgy MD May 12 2016 02:06 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I like Dilson too, but one problem is that he did his share of first-half damage last year with the bat too. I think they call him up if and when there's some real playing time for him, if and when Wright or Walker go down. He's already first in line to replace Walker next season. That's it. I'm backing Rivera. The Mets have had had a C.J., two D.J.'s, and a J.J., so they need a T.J. Plus, they can add an L.J. next year.

Centerfield May 12 2016 02:08 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Edgy MD wrote: I like Dilson too, but one problem is that he did his share of first-half damage last year with the bat too. I think they call him up if and when there's some real playing time for him, if and when Wright or Walker go down. He's already first in line to replace Walker next season. That's it. I'm backing Rivera. The Mets have had had a C.J., two D.J.'s, and a J.J., so they need a T.J. Plus, they can add an L.J. next year. That's right! He looked like a hitter in spring. Doesn't walk much but won't take 2 called strikes with the bases loaded. Plays a bunch of positions. I'm down with Rivera.

TransMonk May 12 2016 02:35 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Centerfield wrote: He was definitely fishing for a walk there. I don't think this was isolated. He did this A LOT last season once he got to three ball count, too.

Frayed Knot May 12 2016 02:37 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

The Campbell replacement we may want to look at is Ty Kelly. Currently hitting .418/.505/.532 in Vegas (yeah, I know it's Vegas - but .418/.505/.532!!), the soon to be 28 y/o switch-hitter (meaning that he's soon to be 28, he already switch-hits) plays multiple IF & OF positions and is the kind of low-ceiling semi-vet that you don't mind as the 25th man sitting on the bench waiting for his chance, as opposed to one of the younger dudes who ought to be playing every day. The team has all but officially said that they're going with an extra pitcher for the Colorado series. That Campbell is the man down is likely,. That he's automatically the guy to be called back up might not be. Probably my worst post of last season was one where Campbell was briefly hitting well while Muffy was not (April) when I questioned if the right guy was sitting. The ratio of XBHs since that post is like 758 to 6 in Murph's favor.

TransMonk May 12 2016 02:39 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

JCL wrote: Believe that he gets at least a temp demotion this weekend while Gilmo returns as the swinger and Matz rests. I read this morning that Wilmer is going on the DL. Seems to me that a move like that would make Campbell the primary backup infielder and that he's not going anywhere soon. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... ing-injury

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 12 2016 03:02 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

TransMonk wrote: Believe that he gets at least a temp demotion this weekend while Gilmo returns as the swinger and Matz rests. I read this morning that Wilmer is going on the DL. Seems to me that a move like that would make Campbell the primary backup infielder and that he's not going anywhere soon. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... ing-injury Not good, but explains why Soupy and not Wilmy was at third last night. I'm on #TeamTy

Edgy MD May 12 2016 03:26 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I didn't consider Ty Kelly, because he's mostly been outfielding this season, but he's definitely in the line of Turner/Satin/Campbell — a utility man who is better on the corners, has to fake it in the middle of the diamond, and has to hit to justify his existence, and will likely be good initially and then start to stink the moment he thinks he has a secure job. Kelly is raking at .418 / .505 / .532 // 1.037 in Vegas. FOUR-EIGHTEEN! You want to at least see if you can catch some of that lightning at the big league level before it burns out.

Ceetar May 12 2016 03:32 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Campbell stinks and I don't particularly like him but he's managed a career .320 OBP somehow. I'd rather that and keep the line moving than going with a .280 OBP guy that might pop one occasionally. Not making outs is key.

themetfairy May 12 2016 03:48 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I have no venom towards Campbell, but I see him as a professional AAAA level guy - too good for Vegas but not quite good enough for the Show.

TransMonk May 12 2016 04:13 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I don't like Campbell the hitter...as mentioned above, he is not aggressive enough at the plate, IMO. But I do appreciate the fact that he can back up nearly any position on defense. That is a quality I look for in a 25th man.

Fman99 May 12 2016 04:22 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Yeah I'm ready to punch out on this shit muffin.

batmagadanleadoff May 12 2016 04:49 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

But he hits the ball so damn hard, so they say.

Lefty Specialist May 12 2016 08:26 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Kinda tired of seeing Campbell and speculating if he has incriminating pictures of the Wilpons, because I can't see any other reason why he's still around.

Edgy MD May 12 2016 08:33 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I'm guessing he doesn't have incriminating pictures of the Wilpons.

Frayed Knot May 12 2016 08:39 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Lefty Specialist wrote: ... I can't see any other reason why he's still around. Because he gets on base at a reasonable rate, can play several positions, and is generally what 25th players on rosters look like. Not that it means we should be wedded to him for any reason, only that whoever his replacement winds up being is unlikely to be much of an improvement.

Edgy MD May 12 2016 08:48 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I mean, I can't imagine he has any photos of the Wilpons that are more embarrassing than the ones we've got, and none of us are floating on the back end of the roster.

Centerfield May 19 2016 01:36 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Ok. So if the off-season strategy was to create a deeper bench so that we don't give away significant at-bats to the likes of Eric Campbell, why has he started 7 of the last 10 games? GET THAT PIECE OF CRAP CAMPBELL OFF MY TEAM NOW!!!! [/scapegoat] On a more serious note, if the tool that Campbell brought to the table was versatility, that becomes less critical now with Reynolds on the roster. Isn't it time for a hitter? TJ Rivera and Ty Kelly are just tearing it up. And then there's this guy Dilson Herrera. I get that making a move risks losing Campbell for good, but really, would anyone be broken up over this?

Edgy MD May 19 2016 01:49 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Things are coming to a head. Flores has seven days left on the DL. Maybe he does a day or two of a rehab assignment just to get his confidence and his stroke back. The key is to see if Reynolds can show his merit before then. Maybe he gets a start or two at shortstop in the interim.

Centerfield May 19 2016 02:15 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Seven days is a long time, and we are giving away at-bats to a guy with a .576 OPS. TJ Rivera's hot streak may not last long, but why not try to catch some of that lightning while it lasts? Call him up. Give him a chance at forging the TJ Rivera Game.

Edgy MD May 19 2016 02:23 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I'd certainly support that, but I think the Mets are going to be more deliberate. I wonder how many more starts he'll get though. I definitely think they see Reynolds as part of this team.

Centerfield May 19 2016 02:33 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I think Reynolds will be too. And if he falters, maybe Cecchini gets his chance later this year. I also think looking ahead to next year, they are thinking to form the left side of the IF with some combination of Cabrera/Wright and Flores/Cecchini/Reynolds.

Ceetar May 19 2016 02:53 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Centerfield wrote: Seven days is a long time, and we are giving away at-bats to a guy with a .576 OPS. TJ Rivera's hot streak may not last long, but why not try to catch some of that lightning while it lasts? Call him up. Give him a chance at forging the TJ Rivera Game. well there's the argument that Rivera's hot streak wouldn't exist against say Max Scherzer and Gio Gonzalez, but I do agree it's worth a shot. But Duda's back and Wright's stiffness cropped up suddenly and I certainly don't think it was the plan to start Campbell.

Centerfield May 19 2016 03:00 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Sure. It's never anyone's plan to start the 25th man, but with injuries being part of a game, it's absolutely foreseeable that the 25th man will get his share of playing time. Plus, it's been 48 hours since Duda's back acted up. They knew that Campbell was going to get significant time. They had a chance to bring in a better hitter for this series and chose not to act on it.

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 03:07 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Centerfield wrote: Ok. So if the off-season strategy was to create a deeper bench so that we don't give away significant at-bats to the likes of Eric Campbell, why has he started 7 of the last 10 games? What are Four LH starters in a ten-day period coupled with near simultaneous injuries to Flores, Wright, and Duda, Alex?

Centerfield May 19 2016 03:14 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I understand. Plus a non-DL injury to Matz that required us to carry another pitcher for the short term. Still, for me, there's nothing more disheartening than to see someone get on base (which is rare these days) and see Eric Campbell stroll to the plate. I'm done with this assclown. Let's got get Rivera.

Benjamin Grimm May 19 2016 03:17 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

You're not referring to the guy with the electrified swimming pool, are you?

Frayed Knot May 19 2016 04:56 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Centerfield wrote: Still, for me, there's nothing more disheartening than to see someone get on base (which is rare these days) and see Eric Campbell stroll to the plate. I'm done with this assclown. Let's got get Rivera. Well either way we would have had the 25th man pressed into service against the likes of Kershaw, Scherzer Gonzalez, etc. which is a disheartening thing no matter who's in that slot. Now you've obviously decided that there are better 25th men available but, for whatever reason, it doesn't look as if Sandy et al have reached that same conclusion yet otherwise someone else likely would have be the 25th man all along.

Centerfield May 19 2016 05:26 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

You're not referring to the guy with the electrified swimming pool, are you? That's just silly. I meant this one:

Benjamin Grimm May 19 2016 05:32 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

I should create a poll to help us decide which of the two is creepier.

Centerfield May 19 2016 05:34 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I should create a poll to help us decide which of the two is creepier. In looks or in action? Geraldo may look like a deviant, but to my knowledge, has never been guilty of criminally negligent homicide against children and puppies.

Benjamin Grimm May 19 2016 05:36 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

How about this? Geraldo is creepier but Mariano is more depraved.

Centerfield May 31 2016 02:02 PM Re: I have an irrational dislike of Eric Campbell

1 for his last 24. I mean, it's a joke at this point.