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POLL: 1ST BASE


David Wright (Flores plays 3B) 0 votes

Wilmer Flores 7 votes

Michael Conforto (Lagares plays CF, Cespedes to LF) 6 votes

Neil Walker (Dilson Herrera plays 2B) 7 votes

Eric Campbell 0 votes

Marc Krauss 0 votes

Dominic Smith 0 votes

Another Player currently in the organization 1 votes

PANIC!!! TRADE FOR A VETERAN 1B NOW!! 1 votes

Nymr83
May 24 2016 01:23 AM

What would YOU do until Duda gets back?

Assume for purposes of this vote that the Regular lineup is C d'Arnaud; 2B Walker; 3B Wright; SS Cabrera; RF Granderson; CF Cespedes; LF Conforto with a big gaping hole at 1B.

Mets Guy in Michigan
May 24 2016 01:33 AM
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Has Walker ever played first?

Nymr83
May 24 2016 01:34 AM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Has Walker ever played first?


No, and Conforto hasn't either. These are all the options as I see them, I don't claim they are equally valid.

Ceetar
May 24 2016 01:39 AM
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I choose Keith out of retirement.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 02:01 AM
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All of the above.

[list]A little bit of of Walker on the sack
A little bit of Wright despite his back
A little bit of Campbell's what I like
A little bit of Kelly gets me psyched
A little bit Conforto couldn't hurt
As long as Wright don't throw it in dirt
A little bit De Aza gets me hot
I'd give 'em all a try, an honest shot!
[/list:u]

d'Kong76
May 24 2016 02:06 AM
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I like the Conforto scenario the best, sounds early on like the Mets
do too. That's weeks away though. They'll just have to score 7-8 runs
every game and the field slots will take care of themselves.

dinosaur jesus
May 24 2016 03:03 AM
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I had a dream one time that the Mets would be playing a big piece of lasagna at first. I still like that better than any of these options.

Zvon
May 24 2016 03:10 AM
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I was a little surprised to hear the booth talking about this and making it sound like it's a consideration at the forefront. Flores could possibly step up. He usually does when he has nothing to lose.

This might not make sense but I like Conforto for first, but all in. If they re-train him during a season to play 1st, and if he does well, he stays @ first and is our first baseman for the next 15 years. When Duda returns he bats off the bench. Duda's the kinda guy who could be great off the bench.

TransMonk
May 24 2016 03:20 AM
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I like using Conforto at first to get Lagares' bat and glove on the field everyday. It doesn't hurt to try.

If Lagares can play well offensively, I think it gives Terry a lot of room to play with the lineup card.

MFS62
May 24 2016 03:26 AM
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Wilmer, once he returns from minor league rehab.

Later

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 03:41 AM
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I'd bet against anything lasting 15 years.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2016 07:05 AM
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Do keep in mind that Conforto is playing above-average defense in left field, and that he has never-- not in the minors, not in high school, not in little league-- wielded a first-baseman's glove in anger.

Lefty Specialist
May 24 2016 10:57 AM
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Wilmer short-term, Conforto longer term. Ty Kelly really, really short-term.

No Panic trades. And Dom Smith is not ready yet, but he will be, perhaps as early as next season. Then you move Conforto back to the outfield.

Fman99
May 24 2016 11:25 AM
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Wilmer.

bmfc1
May 24 2016 11:27 AM
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I don't consider this a "panic" move but a trade for Kelly Johnson could be done quickly and for minimal cost. He's no Duda but he can play 1B and would be a stop-gap while Sandy and the Mets organization figure out something bigger. If/after another move is made, Johnson stays (even though they now have a "Kelly" who wears 55) in the role he played last year.

Benjamin Grimm
May 24 2016 11:30 AM
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I was curious, so I checked to see if Curtis Granderson has ever played first base in the majors or minors.

He hasn't.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 12:21 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
No Panic trades.


Sniff!

Lefty Specialist
May 24 2016 12:58 PM
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Also, no Panic! At the Disco trades.

seawolf17
May 24 2016 01:12 PM
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Wilmer.

Ceetar
May 24 2016 01:46 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Do keep in mind that Conforto is playing above-average defense in left field, and that he has never-- not in the minors, not in high school, not in little league-- wielded a first-baseman's glove in anger.


I'm not sure I'd call what he's doing above-average.

Frayed Knot
May 24 2016 01:58 PM
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Wilmer's going to get the majority of the time, and that should start as soon as Friday.
So we'll patch through with Campbell/Kelly for the next two games at which point one will be sent back (and it pretty much doesn't matter which).


Or they could send both back and call Dilson up. That would allow Walker to play the all-purpose IF guy, swapping at 1st with Wilmer, at 3rd with Wright, and with Herrera at 2nd.
I'm not against Conforto trying his hand at 1st also but I don't see that as anything more than an occasional thing.

Centerfield
May 24 2016 02:02 PM
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I don't know. To me, Dilson Herrera seems to be the pretty obvious choice.

Reasons For:

1. He's our best hitting prospect and he's ready. A lot of scouts say he's a future star. His minor league stats back that up. He's hit at every level.
2. We are going to have to make a decision about him at year's end when Walker is available for FA. Why not use these 2 months to see what he's got? If he's Conforto we let Walker go. If he's Plawecki, we have to make a bid to keep Neil. If we don't find out about him we are dealing with hypotheticals in November.
3. Flores is not very good. I love Wilmer, but he's had nearly 900 ML AB's and hit to a .655 OPS. He hits for some power but is not very good at anything else. I'd go with Herrera and the upside.
4. The other option, Lagares, is also not that good. Career .655 OPS. Plus, this requires moving Conforto, and I think Walker makes that transition easier.

Reasons Against:

1. Walker has never played first. Really, this is the only reason, and I grant you, this is a big reason. But I think he can do it. Duda did it, so did Murphy. And Flores, and Campbell. And Walker is the best athlete of all of them. I think he's a much better candidate to move over than both Conforto and De Aza, considering Walker has been an infielder his entire career.

My Plan:

Call up Herrera. He plays every day. Walker plays first. So long as Walker keeps hitting lefties (which he's done this year, but has not over his career), he plays every day. If he starts struggling as a RH batter, Wilmer is there. Wilmer spells Wright and Cabrera as necessary. The OF stays the same, except that Granderson and Lagares platoon. The splits make that one a no-brainer. When Lagares plays, he plays center. Cespedes and Conforto draw straws to play RF. Either one should be able to do it. Conforto is much more likely to handle RF than 1B.

Save all of our trade bullets for a catcher. Travis is always hurt and Plawecki sucks.

Win the fucking division.

TransMonk
May 24 2016 02:11 PM
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I gotta say...this thread has lowered any PANIC! impulses I have had in the past 18 hours.

I think this shows that the team has a number of viable internal options. Will any of them be successful? It's hard to say...but it's nice to have options.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2016 02:14 PM
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I think Hererra is the future at second base but only when Walker leaves -- but that's by a trade, not by moving to first base.

As a pending FA it's just not in his best interest to be moved off his best position and essentially treated like a backup.

I think the short term answer is a combo of Flores, Soupy and De Aza, with eyes on the trade market/waiver wire for an affordable veteran masher-type.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 02:15 PM
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In fairness, Duda and Murphy played plenty of first base throughout the minor leagues.

I'm sure we'll see more of Herrera soon enough.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2016 02:19 PM
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Do keep in mind that Conforto is playing above-average defense in left field, and that he has never-- not in the minors, not in high school, not in little league-- wielded a first-baseman's glove in anger.


I'm not sure I'd call what he's doing above-average.


Fair enough. But the metrics-- Fangraphs, BR, BP-- do seem to like him fine.

Herrera's not our top hitting prospect by a longshot. He's our closest-to-ready non-pitching prospect, granted. And Walker does make the transition easier than Conforto, only because he's played, like 60 innings there. In his life. With a good portion of that coming in winter-league ball (which, defensively, is a little more than a little "fuck it," at least at first). Walker would be a subpar first baseman with both bat AND glove; it's not worth the effort, methinks, to train a guy in-season in order to weaken your squad at two positions simultaneously, JUST so you can get another look at Dilson a LITTLE earlier than you would, otherwise. (And Lord KNOWS I love me some Dilson.)

The medium-term (read: pre-Smith) solution isn't yet on the roster. I vote with the pu-pu platter (led by Wilmer and AmishBeard McEwing), while Team Sandy hawks the wire/trade market.

Centerfield
May 24 2016 02:25 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I think Hererra is the future at second base but only when Walker leaves -- but that's by a trade, not by moving to first base.

As a pending FA it's just not in his best interest to be moved off his best position and essentially treated like a backup.

I think the short term answer is a combo of Flores, Soupy and De Aza, with eyes on the trade market/waiver wire for an affordable veteran masher-type.


Do you think it would hurt his value? I mean, it's not like anyone's going to think he forgot how to play second. I would think the ability to slide to 1B would be a plus. At least so long as the position change doesn't screw up his hitting.

I was thinking about possible outside the organization options as well:

1. Kelly Johnson (someone else mentioned it)
2. That guy that used to be in Pittsburgh that hits HR's but strikes out a lot. Forgot his name and where he ended up. He was non-tendered.
3. Freddy Fucking Freeman
4. Adam LaRoche and his Son. What happens when a guy retires? Is he still under CWS control?

Ceetar
May 24 2016 02:33 PM
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A reason not to experiment at first might be for Wright's sake. He's always done best with an experienced guy there. I feel like if you go back and look at his defense when Murphy was playing there compared to say Delgado or Davis or even Duda, it's stark. With him maybe being a little stiff at times and messing around with this side-arm stuff, there's probably more value in a better glove guy there. Then again, that might be true regardless of David Wright, I'm not sure we properly quantify first base defense.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2016 02:33 PM
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In a best-case scenario-- Duda returns directly after some rest/healing, and begins producing again-- a Kelly Johnson reunion leaves us with another lefty on the bench, and a multi-position infield-playing one, to boot (strengthening our one real weakness there).

Of course, if Ty Kelly goes all Vail/Murph2008 on us, this is mooted.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2016 03:00 PM
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Apparently, Justin Morneau-- recovering from surgery-- is out there (if not in bat-swinging form until June).

Also available: Jeff Baker, Corey Hart, Kevin Frandsen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2016 03:15 PM
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Guys you could get whom you wouldn't want:
Prince Fielder (does that contract suck or what? Signed for another 5 years!)
Pujols (signed for even more $$, even longer)
Howard ($25 Mill + $10M buyout)

Guys Who'd You Have to Try Really Hard to Root for Even in a Mets Uni But Who'd Probably Be Available For a Song:
Teixera

smg58
May 24 2016 03:17 PM
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There's no easy solution. The original contingency plan at first was Wilmer Flores, but he's on the DL and was not hitting when he was healthy. I still have to think he'll get the primary opportunity come Friday, and hopefully he'll deliver with the bat and render the rest of the discussion moot. Asking Walker or Conforto or Wright to learn an entirely new position on the fly mid-season is risky. Of the three, Walker makes the most sense because of Dilson Herrera (although Herrera's bat has gone cold this past week). I also think you'll have much better luck getting an infielder to learn first base quickly rather than an outfielder.

I keep going back to why they waited so long to part with Tejada this offseason. The could have gotten David Freese the week before they released Tejada. Freese hasn't really played first before either, but (a) he'd have had the whole of spring training to learn it and (b) unlike Campbell, he belongs on a major league roster.

On the trade front, the Cardinals have Brandon Moss and Matt Adams and don't need both of them. I'm not sure what they'd want, and I wouldn't pull the trigger today, but I'd ask.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 03:24 PM
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Guys you could get whom you wouldn't want:
Prince Fielder (does that contract suck or what? Signed for another 5 years!)
Pujols (signed for even more $$, even longer)
Howard ($25 Mill + $10M buyout)

Guys Who'd You Have to Try Really Hard to Root for Even in a Mets Uni But Who'd Probably Be Available For a Song:
Teixera

Votto is off to an horrific start, but his contract goes for another eight years. On the other hand, as time passes, it might start to seem more reasonable.

Even if the Phils pick up 75%, Howard remains untouchable?

Ceetar
May 24 2016 03:27 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Even if the Phils pick up 75%, Howard remains untouchable?


Like a slider when he's at the plate.

Frayed Knot
May 24 2016 03:28 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
2. That guy that used to be in Pittsburgh that hits HR's but strikes out a lot. Forgot his name and where he ended up. He was non-tendered.


Pedro Alvarez. Finally signed in March to be the DH in Baltimore where he's playing part-time (100 ABs, mostly vs RHPs) and hitting .191 w/2 HRs

Frayed Knot
May 24 2016 03:33 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Votto is off to an horrific start, but his contract goes for another eight years. On the other hand, as time passes, it might start to seem more reasonable.


Eight years for a guy who will be 33 y/o before the first of those eight even starts makes him a no-go for me.


Even if the Phils pick up 75%, Howard remains untouchable?


At .156/.226/.359 ... ummm, yeah.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 03:38 PM
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Well, sure, if you're banking on that batting average being locked in. But you'd be fishing for more, using him as a part-timer and a pinch-hit threat when Duda gets back.

I'm not advocating, certainly, just scratching my chin.

seawolf17
May 24 2016 03:44 PM
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Guys Who'd You Have to Try Really Hard to Root for Even in a Mets Uni But Who'd Probably Be Available For a Song:
Teixera

That's the guy who caught my eye too. I don't know, though.

Centerfield
May 24 2016 03:48 PM
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The Dilson Herrera advocates seemed to have won the crowd, until the Wilmer Flores crew pulled ahead.

If we are Greyjoys battling to lead the Iron Born, the Dilson crowd is covertly stealing ships and escaping.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 03:53 PM
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Other namey names we might hear over the coming weeks:

Chris Carter, Brewers
Matt Adams, Cardinals
Brandon Moss, Cardinals (these two are kinda redundant for the Cards)
Byung-ho Park, Twins (Thinking big! Will cost you!)
Pedro Alvarez, Orioles (currently filling in at third for the O's, but could be expendable in a few weeks when the Mets have a better idea where they are. Knows the National League.)
Logan Morrison, Rays
Mitch Moreland, Rangers
Justin Smoak, Blue Jays
Felicity Smoak, Team Arrow
Mark Reynolds, Roxx

Benjamin Grimm
May 24 2016 04:04 PM
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I'm on Team Felicity.

seawolf17
May 24 2016 04:28 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I'm on Team Felicity.

/googles Felicity Smoak
/buys SMOAK Mets jersey just in case

Ashie62
May 24 2016 04:31 PM
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Probably Wilmer,

but I went with Conforto so Lagares and DeAza can see the light of day,

Crap, its only Duda for chrissakes.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 04:47 PM
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Joel Sherman reporting that reps for James Loney (.333 / .368 / .417 // .784 for the Padres' AAA team in El Paso) are reaching out to the Mets. He apparently has an opt-out clause that allows for such tampering.

HOLYSHIT!JAMESLONEY!HOLYSHIT!

Benjamin Grimm
May 24 2016 05:03 PM
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Wait, so he's playing for a Padres farm team, but he can opt for free agency? The Mets can just sign him, without having to send any players or money to San Diego?

TransMonk
May 24 2016 05:05 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2016 05:10 PM

Yup. A lot of veteran minor league contracts contain opt-outs if they get interest from other orgs to be on a big league roster. Of course, San Diego could promote him to the big leagues to void the opt-out, but it doesn't seem like they have a need for him. It kinda makes me curious as to why San Diego even signed him to a mL deal, but whatevs.

IMO, this is the best option when looking outside the Mets organization.

OE: By "a lot", I don't mean "a lot". It's a fairly new development along with the opt outs many players are getting now in big money contracts (Cespedes). I just got through reading Jeff Passan's "The Arm". He follows Todd Coffey during his Tommy John surgery, recovery and attempted comeback. Coffey had a couple of dated opt-outs (June 30, July 31, etc.) when he played for Seattle's AAA team to go elsewhere if another ML team had interest.

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 05:07 PM
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Well, after Felicity Smoak, yeah.

Frayed Knot
May 24 2016 05:09 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 24 2016 05:17 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Wait, so he's playing for a Padres farm team, but he can opt for free agency? The Mets can just sign him, without having to send any players or money to San Diego?


The opt-out probably states something along the lines of if he's not called up to the Padres big club by a certain date (June 1st?) then he can opt out of his deal and then, yes, he would in effect by a FA with no compensation due to SD

Loney never turned out to be the player I though he was going to when he first showed up with the Dodgers. But as a stop-gap it's not a bad move [.291/.337/.393 from 2013-15 w/TB, 26 HRs over 1,500 ABs] and, if nothing else, he's a terrific fielder and still just turned 32 y/o a few weeks back.
Coincidentally, James Loney is the target comp many use for Dom Smith: good glove, average-hitting 1B with less HR power than typical of that position.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2016 05:15 PM
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He's doing better than our AAA first baseman, let's invite him over.

Benjamin Grimm
May 24 2016 05:17 PM
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Maybe we should post social media photos of his wife as an incentive!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2016 05:22 PM
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James & Nadia

cooby
May 24 2016 05:26 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Maybe we should post social media photos of his wife as an incentive!

Yeah most guys would love that

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 05:32 PM
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I'll bet he had Terry Collins as a minor league manager at some point.

Lefty Specialist
May 24 2016 05:36 PM
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Hell, I'm sold on Loney. Good fielder, no long-term commitment. Won't hit much, but the added bonus of reduced Sugarpantalones errors seals the deal for me.

See, we all put our heads together and we come up with something. Oh, except now Sandy has to do what we say.

seawolf17
May 24 2016 07:18 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Hell, I'm sold on Loney. Good fielder, no long-term commitment. Won't hit much, but the added bonus of reduced Sugarpantalones errors seals the deal for me.

See, we all put our heads together and we come up with something. Oh, except now Sandy has to do what we say.

Which I did when I signed Cesp---SHIT. COVER BLOWN.

/deletes account

metsmarathon
May 24 2016 07:35 PM
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so, what about adam and drake laroche?

Edgy MD
May 24 2016 07:40 PM
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Guys Who'd You Have to Try Really Hard to Root for Even in a Mets Uni But Who'd Probably Be Available For a Song:
Teixera

Nick Swisher

Centerfield
May 24 2016 08:57 PM
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If you're getting Yankees, can we have Beltran back? I bet he could learn to play 1st.

Ceetar
May 24 2016 09:05 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
If you're getting Yankees, can we have Beltran back? I bet he could learn to play 1st.


he did play 5 innings there back in 2014, so we're set.

Nymr83
May 25 2016 03:27 AM
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I was firmly against the panic trade (or the Joe Panik trade) at first, but now I want me some Loney. James can stay in SD, just have his wife sit behind the dugout for Mets games.

Frayed Knot
May 25 2016 03:41 AM
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Loney's not even a panic move. 'Panic' to me would mean dealing some potentially valuable future piece for an outsider because you think the team is going to fall apart without imported help.
But Loney would be essentially free to pick up and, unlike Duda, we wouldn't be invested in him past this season so he could play a straight 1B platoon with Flores while allowing Wilmer to get in the occasional 2B & 3B action filling in for Wright and/or Walker.
Loney also strengthens the LH-hitting bench just as Wilmer strengthens the right. And likely both Campbell & Kelly are banished with De Aza representing a much stronger 25th roster spot.


All that said, it's unclear if there have even been talks between the parties yet so we shouldn't start prematurely enumerating unhatched farm fowl with these pretend roster moves quite yet, but I like it as a plan.

Edgy MD
May 25 2016 04:45 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
All that said, it's unclear if there have even been talks between the parties yet so we shouldn't start prematurely enumerating unhatched farm fowl ...

Joel Sherman says his agents have made plans to meet with the Mets and OHMYGOD!! SOMANYCHICKENS!!!

MFS62
May 25 2016 12:18 PM
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Wilmer started at first base for Binghamton last night and went 2-3.

Later

RealityChuck
May 25 2016 12:51 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Loney's not even a panic move. 'Panic' to me would mean dealing some potentially valuable future piece for an outsider because you think the team is going to fall apart without imported help.
But Loney would be essentially free to pick up and, unlike Duda, we wouldn't be invested in him past this season so he could play a straight 1B platoon with Flores while allowing Wilmer to get in the occasional 2B & 3B action filling in for Wright and/or Walker.
Loney also strengthens the LH-hitting bench just as Wilmer strengthens the right. And likely both Campbell & Kelly are banished with De Aza representing a much stronger 25th roster spot.


My thoughts exactly. It only costs the major league minimum salary to get him. He's no Duda, but he's a strong replacement.

Benjamin Grimm
May 25 2016 12:53 PM
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Yeah, I don't really see any downside to Loney at this point. I know the official word is that it will be Wilmer, but they can't say it will be Loney because he's still a Padre.

Frayed Knot
May 25 2016 01:02 PM
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And I still think that Wilmer will get a sizable portion of the 1B time.
But this would allow Terry to play Loney against RHPs so as to get the best out of him (career splits aren't extreme though typically favor him vs righties) while freeing up Wilmer to play elsewhere as well. It also improves the bench & the defense, gives more double-switch / late-inning options, etc.

Centerfield
May 25 2016 01:57 PM
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I am still team Dilson.

But if you are not going that route, Loney needs to be signed ASAP. He's a better hitter than Wilmer, and a better first baseman. Platooning Wilmer and Loney, as FK suggests, is probably a good bet. If something better presents itself, you can just cut Loney.

This frees up Wilmer to spot Wright and spell Cabrera, who is eventually going to need some rest.

And all of this takes away at-bats from Eric Campbell.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 25 2016 05:10 PM
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I like-- well, "like" might be strong-- the Loney backup plan, in a belt-and-suspenders way. But really, I think I want to give Wilmer another extended audition here. True, he hasn't been the bat one would have hoped for out of a bat-first infielder so far, but that's so far. He's trended in the right direction, approach-wise and results-wise, AND HE'S 23. He's still not necessarily what he will be, you know?

2-4 weeks. Then-- ugh-- pass the bull-Loney. (Also, take the Soup away. I did NOT order the Soup.)

Edgy MD
May 25 2016 06:56 PM
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Wrinkle in the plan: Pads sat Will Myers last night with a forearm strain. They may end up calling up Loney themselves.

Frayed Knot
May 25 2016 07:03 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Wrinkle in the plan: Pads sat Will Myers last night with a forearm strain.


Too many sliders?

Edgy MD
May 28 2016 07:09 PM
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No transaction announced by the team, but The Daily News (among others) is reporting that this is a done deal. Loney himself just tweeted out, "I❤️NY."

On the other hand, didn't Carlos Gomez do something like that?

Mets Guy in Michigan
May 28 2016 07:14 PM
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Mets.official posted something on Instagram, too!

Zvon
May 28 2016 07:21 PM
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Wow. I really didn't expect them to make a move like this.

Edgy MD
May 28 2016 07:37 PM
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Hardly any reason not to do it.
[list:bpy6ugvg][*:bpy6ugvg]No prohibitive contract.[/*:m:bpy6ugvg]
[*:bpy6ugvg]No talent required in exchange.[/*:m:bpy6ugvg]
[*:bpy6ugvg]Fills a gap by batting left-handed.[/*:m:bpy6ugvg]
[*:bpy6ugvg]Even if he doesn't hit, he gets on base.[/*:m:bpy6ugvg]
[*:bpy6ugvg]Even if he doesn't get on base, he fields his position.[/*:m:bpy6ugvg]
[*:bpy6ugvg]He can possibly be a lefty pinch-hit option when/if Duda returns.[/*:m:bpy6ugvg]
[*:bpy6ugvg]Even if he doesn't do any of that, he's releasable without penalty.[/*:m:bpy6ugvg][/list:u:bpy6ugvg]
The main downside is they either have to put Duda on the 60-Day (which may be inevitable) or dangle somebody else to open up a roster spot.

RealityChuck
May 28 2016 07:47 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

Sucks to be Ty Kelly right now.

Lefty Specialist
May 28 2016 08:04 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

Yeah, someone's getting voted off the island. Please be Eric Campbell.

Zvon
May 28 2016 08:07 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

Lefty Specialist wrote:
Yeah, someone's getting voted off the island. Please be Eric Campbell.


Ten bucks it's Reynolds.

Frayed Knot
May 28 2016 09:18 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

I'd keep Reynolds and exchange Campbell & Kelly for Loney & Flores. Which order that happens in is pretty much irrelevant.

Wilmer to be activated on Sunday, Loney on Monday or Tuesday according most recent scuttlebutt.

Zvon
May 28 2016 09:46 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

Frayed Knot wrote:
I'd keep Reynolds and exchange Campbell & Kelly for Loney & Flores. Which order that happens in is pretty much irrelevant.

Wilmer to be activated on Sunday, Loney on Monday or Tuesday according most recent scuttlebutt.


I agree 100%. But Reynolds always seems to get the short stick.

Always liked Looney. When it was just talk in the wind my bro asked what do the Padres get? and I said a bag of balls. I didn't want him to cost us any flesh. And to me the Mets $$ is just a bag of balls so I think we did real good here.

Lefty Specialist
May 28 2016 09:51 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

So, does this count as:

PANIC!!! TRADE FOR A VETERAN 1B NOW!!

Ashie62
May 28 2016 10:24 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

Rubin says we got Loney and no further info.

Centerfield
May 31 2016 01:38 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE



Hey guys! Just wondering how many more guys have to get hurt and/or hit below .200 before I get a chance. No sour grapes or anything. Just curious. You know, so I can plan and stuff.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 31 2016 03:30 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

James Loney, Tweeting wrote:
I❤️NY.


How do you feel about slightly more westerly time zones, bud?

Vic Sage
May 31 2016 04:17 PM
Re: POLL: 1ST BASE

Centerfield wrote:


Hey guys! Just wondering how many more guys have to get hurt and/or hit below .200 before I get a chance. No sour grapes or anything. Just curious. You know, so I can plan and stuff.


Yeah, right? Walker played 3b when he came up with Pitt and I think he'd be fine there while David is out, particularly since his lack of range would be less of a factor there than it is at 2b. Meanwhile, we get Herrera into the lineup, rather than Kelly or (gulp!) Campbell, and let Loney platoon with Flores at 1b. I think an infield of Walker - Cabrera - Hererra - Flores/Loney would give us the best combo of offense and defense, and keep Campbell off the field. It would also give us another option for the top of the order, where Grandy is hurting us on a daily basis.