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IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard
Edgy MD Jun 14 2016 10:35 PM |
This Locke guy has an ERA 2.69 times higher than Syndergaard's. But even at home, that scarcely adds up to even money, the way the Mets are playing. Plus, at least a few folks are going to make a Thor vs. Lo(c)ki pun. Ugh.
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d'Kong76 Jun 15 2016 08:32 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Pittsburgh at NY Mets
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 15 2016 08:52 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Tooth?
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2016 09:09 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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They do, but he's on the DL.
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2016 02:55 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
LAGARES - CF
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d'Kong76 Jun 15 2016 03:20 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Edgy MD Jun 15 2016 04:02 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I'd like to congratulate Asdrubal Cabrera, our maligned opening day #7 hitter for his graduation to the cleanup slot. As you know, appearing in a Mets game as a cleanup hitter entitles you to $50 in gift certificates redeemable at your local Getty filling station. Getty — it's something to think about.
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Lefty Specialist Jun 15 2016 04:39 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
So, three hits or two tonight?
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Centerfield Jun 15 2016 05:25 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Lagares scratched. Thumb.
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d'Kong76 Jun 15 2016 05:59 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Tooth, thumb, what's next? Testicle?
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 06:25 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Thor's slider: (I was going to say to lefties, but it's getting righties too) Devastating tonight. It'll find the hole in any lefty batter's swing. Booth says he's amped.
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Lefty Specialist Jun 15 2016 06:27 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
NOOOOOOOO!!!! Bases loaded, no out!!!!! Doomed!
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 06:29 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 15 2016 06:30 PM |
Yoenis draws a walk. Bases totally royal blue. No out. Flores. Fly gets a run Slo-Mo.
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2016 06:30 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
A MIGHTY RBI HIT!!!
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 06:31 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I'm watching you Matt Reynolds. I'm going to say things about you tonight. Make it be nice stuff.
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Lefty Specialist Jun 15 2016 06:33 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Nice Things!
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2016 06:35 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Bases-loaded w/none out ... AND WE SCORED MORE THAN ZERO!!!!!
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cooby Jun 15 2016 06:35 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Yahoo!
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2016 06:37 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
OK Syndegaard, there are your runs, make them stand up and don't expect any more.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 06:38 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Matt Reynolds: Your mother wears really nice expensive and stylish boots!
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 06:44 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
If they keep Plawecki up and send down Rivera on lil d's return I will be, yes, once again, devastated. Plaw needs some seasoning.
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Edgy MD Jun 15 2016 07:03 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Screw you, malaise!!
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 07:05 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Kelly with a devastating drive for a solo kaBOOMER!
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 15 2016 07:13 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Who are these people scoring runs and what have they done with the Mets?
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 07:24 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
4-0 Metropolitans.
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Ceetar Jun 15 2016 07:27 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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leading off at that. 15 straight set down.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 07:31 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Yea, first pitch. Ha, Gary just said it. Noah's slider was nasty early and now his change up is killing.
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2016 07:34 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
"Cut me Mick"
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Edgy MD Jun 15 2016 07:37 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Way to go the other way tonight, FWilmer.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 07:40 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Flores with the RBI dinker! (I'm just noticing now that he's batting clean-up, oy)
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Edgy MD Jun 15 2016 07:41 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Pour it on.
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Lefty Specialist Jun 15 2016 07:43 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Another doink, another run. Happy.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 07:43 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Kelly with what sounded like a broken bat single over short.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 07:51 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Cripes, if Rivera also hits give lil d' all the time he needs. A single and double tonight. I wonder how lil d' will be off the bench. He'll be plenty rested ( I think stamina/exhaustion is an issue with him) in a bench role.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 08:05 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I'm a Cutch fan, but not a fan of his whining. Wow, and he's done for the night. Pulled after looking at strike three.
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themetfairy Jun 15 2016 08:09 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Nice shot by Wilmer!
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Edgy MD Jun 15 2016 08:10 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
That's a cleanup hitter.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 08:11 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
BIG PURPLE WILMA!!!!
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 08:25 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Hellzyea, I wanna see eight. Hey, how about one of those....ahh,,what were they called...?
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d'Kong76 Jun 15 2016 08:36 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
This is fun! Gonna need to tap another keg of Schaefer.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 08:44 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
11 ks, 3 hits after eight. Didn't have an eye on the pitch count but must be right around 100.
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2016 08:44 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I suppose, after all the shit games we've had lately, that it would seem ungrateful to complain about "wasting" all this hitting on the same night we get a dominant pitching performance.
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seawolf17 Jun 15 2016 08:50 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
If you're a starting pitcher batting for yourself in the bottom of the eighth, something's going very right.
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d'Kong76 Jun 15 2016 08:51 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
And a fifth time is something going really really very right.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 08:53 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Oh, I now understand why they have been trying to keep mah man Reynolds on a shelf.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 08:55 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Noah for the ninth!
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 08:57 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
de Aza=useless.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 09:01 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Hmmm.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 09:04 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Awwww. Pittsburgh scores and Thor will head to the showers. Hey, you got into the 9th lookin' strong, kid. One step at a time.
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Nymr83 Jun 15 2016 09:07 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I'm all for stretching your pitcher when it matters, but i dont see the need for 116 pitches in an 11-0 game. he should have gone 7 and called it a night.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 09:09 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I like this Kang kid on the Pirates. He's just an all around natural in the field, at the plate, and on the bases. Very smooth third baseman.
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 09:12 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Error all the way? Flores wasn't even supposed to glove that! Great stop. Horrible throw.
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themetfairy Jun 15 2016 09:17 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Zvon Jun 15 2016 09:19 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Familia here, huh?
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Ceetar Jun 15 2016 09:43 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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there's no evidence that throwing another 30 pitches is actually in any way detrimental. and hell, it may help. Now he's sorta stretched out a little further and if he needs to throw 110 against the Nats he won't be stretching his endurance as much.
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Lefty Specialist Jun 16 2016 07:01 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Thor was on a week's rest so I didn't have any problem with Terry pushing him a bit there. And Fammy hadn't been in a game in 5 days so he needed the work.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 16 2016 07:57 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Centerfield Jun 16 2016 08:24 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Can I say what a thing of beauty it was to watch these opposite field hits? I know it's not as easy as some would make it seem, but man, take the ball the other way boys. You'll score 11 runs every game.
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Centerfield Jun 16 2016 08:25 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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seawolf17 Jun 16 2016 08:30 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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I was half-watching at one point and that made me double-take too.
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Edgy MD Jun 16 2016 08:35 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Wilmer's swing traditionally has given him almost no coverage on the outside of the plate. That's where they've pitched him traditionally and fouls or balls on siders away have been the best we can hope for. He hurts the pitcher with a few doinks the other way, which is when I made that post, and finally they had to come in on him the next time. FLABOOM!! was his answer. I heart the AdaptoMets. It's been a long time coming.
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2016 08:39 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
The problem with Wilmer's swing is that he's never going to hit with any authority to the opposite field.
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Centerfield Jun 16 2016 09:41 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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How can you tell that? Something about his swing?
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Centerfield Jun 16 2016 09:46 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
Couple of random thoughts:
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2016 10:10 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Mostly about his results. Like have we ever seen him hit a ball hard the other way? And, yes, it's about his swing also, although I don't know enough about hitting to explain it properly; it's more a 'know it when I see it' kind of thing. Also, was watching a Mets/Phils game via the Philly station not long after Wilmer first came up and color-man Matt Stairs talked at length about how he'd never hit the ball with any authority to the opposite field based solely on how he held his hands. Again, the specific mechanics were a bit beyond me but Stairs, who I'm not even sure had seen Wilmer prior to that day, went on to describe Wilmer perfectly based on nothing more than his stance, hands, and a couple of swings.
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Centerfield Jun 16 2016 10:16 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
That's interesting to know.
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Edgy MD Jun 16 2016 10:27 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I'm not one to say never, but it's certainly something that struck me early. I'm hoping that he wouldn't necessarily have to go the other way with authority, but just making enough contact to keep the pitcher and the defense honest would be nice.
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2016 11:02 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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Of all the times that Keith, or numerous others of his generation, go into their 'players these days' laments, the one I tend to agree with most is to bemoan the loss of the 'two-strike swing' where a player cuts down and goes the other way so as to make contact and avoid strikeouts. For whatever reason, ex-Cub (also Philly, Padre, Tiger) Keith Morland is the guy I think of when this topic comes up. A big, blocky, 'swing hard in case you hit it' type, Moreland was the epitome of a hit-only player to the point where his lack of fielding prowess in multiple positions got him immortalized in Steve Goodman's talking-blues classic 'The Dying Cub Fan's Last Request'*, you'd think he'd be the last type to put his macho aside when behind in the count but I remember him doing so regularly and wound up with a 12 year career that had almost as many XBHs and walks as he did Ks [349 v 405 v 515]. As for Wilmer, I love it if/when he goes to RF, although the three times he went that way last night -- two dribblers and a bloop beyond 1B -- were more by luck than design, even if the 2 RBIs were nice. * Have the organ play the "National Anthem" and then a little 'na, na, na, na, hey hey, hey, Goodbye' Make six bullpen pitchers, carry my coffin and six ground keepers clear my path Have the umpires bark me out at every base In all their holy wrath Its a beautiful day for a funeral, Hey Ernie lets play two! Somebody go get Jack Brickhouse to come back, and conduct just one more interview Have the Cubbies run right out into the middle of the field, Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt And I'll be ready to die
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 16 2016 11:24 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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d'Kong76 Jun 16 2016 11:35 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
I thought I'd seen him hit the ball with some pop the other way
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2016 11:36 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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I think it's just what his swing does best. And, although his calling card coming up through the minors was his good bat-on-ball skills so you'd think that he should be able to go the other way, I just don't know if it'll ever consist of much beyond just serving the ball that way rather than hitting it with much authority. On the flip side, that one he turned on last night and hit over the Great Wall of Flushing reminds you of why peeps had so much hope in him. That thing got outta there in a hurry.
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Ceetar Jun 16 2016 12:24 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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OPS with 2 strikes 2011-2016 .514 OPS 2000-2010 .551 OPS 90s .545 88-89 .511 % of balls in play 2011-2016 50.34% .292 babip 2000-2010 52.6% .292 babip 90s 53.32% .290 babip 88-89 55.67% .278 babip I'm not sure any of that's particularly meaningful of course. I'm sure hitters have decided that altering there approach hurts more than it helps. Has there been any research into whether or not it even helps?
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Edgy MD Jun 16 2016 12:44 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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I'm still not certain Bell didn't split his pants there. Come on, Arizona, give your guys some fabric.
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2016 01:02 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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You mean other than the fact that strikeout rates have quintupled every decade? or something like that
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Ceetar Jun 16 2016 01:06 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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yes. not striking out is not the goal, getting on base safely is the goal.
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2016 01:17 PM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
In certain situations, yes it is.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 01 2016 08:09 AM Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard |
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