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IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Edgy MD
Jun 14 2016 10:35 PM

This Locke guy has an ERA 2.69 times higher than Syndergaard's. But even at home, that scarcely adds up to even money, the way the Mets are playing. Plus, at least a few folks are going to make a Thor vs. Lo(c)ki pun. Ugh.

Anyhow, new things need to be discovered. Corners must be turned. Batting coaches must adjust even the most foundational of their philosophies.

They are literally making their manager sick. Eventually they will adjust, and find something that works, because everybody always does. The question is whether it will be in time. You know when a good to adjust is? Tomorrow. That's a good day.

d'Kong76
Jun 15 2016 08:32 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Pittsburgh at NY Mets
When: 7:10 PM ET, Wednesday, June 15, 2016
Where: Citi Field, New York City, New York
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The New York Mets’ problems on offense reached a low on Tuesday, when Pittsburgh rookie Jameson Taillon took a no-hitter into the seventh inning in his second career start. The Mets will try to bounce back from that shutout loss and end a three-game slide when they host the Pirates in the second of a three-game series on Wednesday.

New York has dropped 10 of its last 16 games and is scoring an average of 2.7 runs in that span, including two or fewer nine times. The Mets scraped out three hits in Tuesday’s 4-0 setback and Michael Conforto, who is limited to pinch hitting after receiving a cortisone injection in his ailing left wrist, struck out in his lone plate appearance. The Pirates aren’t exactly lighting up the scoreboard but did manage to snap a five-game slide with Tuesday’s triumph. Pittsburgh (33-31) has dropped 12 of its last 17 to flirt with the .500 mark but three of the five wins in that span have come over New York.

TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, ROOT (Pittsburgh), SNY (New York)

PITCHING MATCHUP: Pirates LH Jeff Locke (5-4, 5.38 ERA) vs. Mets RH Noah Syndergaard (6-2, 2.00)

The Pittsburgh rotation took a major hit when ace Gerrit Cole was placed on the 15-day disabled list on Tuesday, and some consistency from Locke would certainly help the team bridge the gap to Cole’s return. Locke tossed a three-hit shutout at Miami on May 30 and followed it up with seven strong innings in a win over the Los Angeles Angels on June 4 but was demolished for 11 runs on 11 hits and three walks in 4 2/3 innings at Colorado on Thursday. The New Hampshire native is looking for his first win against New York after posting a 0-1 mark with a 4.20 ERA in his first three chances.

Syndergaard went up against the Pirates last Wednesday and ran his streak of appearances allowing two or fewer earned runs to eight by scattering two on seven hits over six innings in a no decision. The 23-year-old Texan was not quite as sharp as usual last time out and ended up walking more than one (two) for the first time since May 6. Syndergaard is searching for his first win against Pittsburgh and is 2-1 with a 1.96 ERA at home this season.

WALK-OFFS:

1. Mets 3B David Wright, who is on the DL with a herniated disc in his neck, is reportedly considering surgery.
2. Pirates LF Starling Marte is 10-for-20 over the last five games and homered on Tuesday.
3. New York CF Juan Lagares (tooth) sat out Tuesday’s game and is day-to-day.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jun 15 2016 08:52 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Tooth?

Do the Mets not have a dentist for these guys?

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2016 09:09 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Do the Mets not have a dentist for these guys?


They do, but he's on the DL.

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2016 02:55 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

LAGARES - CF
GRANDERSON - RF
CESPEDES - LF
CABRERA - SS
FLORES - 3B
LONEY - 1B
REYNOLDS - 2B
RIVERA - C
SYNDERGAARD - P

d'Kong76
Jun 15 2016 03:20 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard


Jaso, 1B
Polanco, RF
McCutchen, CF
Kang, 3B
Marte, LF
Harrison, 2B
Mercer, SS
Kratz, C
Locke, P

Edgy MD
Jun 15 2016 04:02 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I'd like to congratulate Asdrubal Cabrera, our maligned opening day #7 hitter for his graduation to the cleanup slot. As you know, appearing in a Mets game as a cleanup hitter entitles you to $50 in gift certificates redeemable at your local Getty filling station. Getty — it's something to think about.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 15 2016 04:39 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

So, three hits or two tonight?

Centerfield
Jun 15 2016 05:25 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Lagares scratched. Thumb.

Walker likely not available.

d'Kong76
Jun 15 2016 05:59 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Tooth, thumb, what's next? Testicle?

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 06:25 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Thor's slider: (I was going to say to lefties, but it's getting righties too) Devastating tonight. It'll find the hole in any lefty batter's swing. Booth says he's amped.

Grandy and Cabrera stroke back2back singles to start the home half. Asdrubal batting 2nd. No out.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 15 2016 06:27 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

NOOOOOOOO!!!! Bases loaded, no out!!!!! Doomed!

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 06:29 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 15 2016 06:30 PM

Yoenis draws a walk. Bases totally royal blue. No out. Flores. Fly gets a run Slo-Mo.

Or that. An infield scribbler gets a run home. Flores out @ 1st.

1-0 Mets

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2016 06:30 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

A MIGHTY RBI HIT!!!

And, better yet, it reduces the odds of the GiDP (but not of the IF pop-up)

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 06:31 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I'm watching you Matt Reynolds. I'm going to say things about you tonight. Make it be nice stuff.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 15 2016 06:33 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Nice Things!

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2016 06:35 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Bases-loaded w/none out ... AND WE SCORED MORE THAN ZERO!!!!!

cooby
Jun 15 2016 06:35 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Yahoo!

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2016 06:37 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

OK Syndegaard, there are your runs, make them stand up and don't expect any more.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 06:38 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Matt Reynolds: Your mother wears really nice expensive and stylish boots!

Delivers a 2 RBI double over third & down the line.

3-0 New York.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 06:44 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

If they keep Plawecki up and send down Rivera on lil d's return I will be, yes, once again, devastated. Plaw needs some seasoning.

Edgy MD
Jun 15 2016 07:03 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Screw you, malaise!!

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 07:05 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Kelly with a devastating drive for a solo kaBOOMER!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jun 15 2016 07:13 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Who are these people scoring runs and what have they done with the Mets?

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 07:24 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

4-0 Metropolitans.

Mets have 6 hits after 4 full, the Buccos have one lone hit they managed in the first inning.

Ceetar
Jun 15 2016 07:27 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Zvon wrote:
4-0 Metropolitans.

Mets have 6 hits after 4 full, the Buccos have one lone hit they managed in the first inning.



leading off at that. 15 straight set down.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 07:31 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Ceetar wrote:
Zvon wrote:
4-0 Metropolitans.

Mets have 6 hits after 4 full, the Buccos have one lone hit they managed in the first inning.



leading off at that. 15 straight set down.


Yea, first pitch. Ha, Gary just said it. Noah's slider was nasty early and now his change up is killing.

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2016 07:34 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

"Cut me Mick"

Edgy MD
Jun 15 2016 07:37 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Way to go the other way tonight, FWilmer.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 07:40 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Flores with the RBI dinker! (I'm just noticing now that he's batting clean-up, oy)

Yea, keep that uni clean Cespedes!


5-0 Metsies

Edgy MD
Jun 15 2016 07:41 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Pour it on.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 15 2016 07:43 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Another doink, another run. Happy.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 07:43 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Kelly with what sounded like a broken bat single over short.
6-0. Matt Reynolds, I am watching you!

Awww Ks. You're still covered by the double. Your mom is safe.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 07:51 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Cripes, if Rivera also hits give lil d' all the time he needs. A single and double tonight. I wonder how lil d' will be off the bench. He'll be plenty rested ( I think stamina/exhaustion is an issue with him) in a bench role.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 08:05 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I'm a Cutch fan, but not a fan of his whining. Wow, and he's done for the night. Pulled after looking at strike three.

Will tonight's excuse shed any light on this?

themetfairy
Jun 15 2016 08:09 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Nice shot by Wilmer!

Edgy MD
Jun 15 2016 08:10 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

That's a cleanup hitter.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 08:11 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

BIG PURPLE WILMA!!!!

9-0. 14 hits.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 08:25 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Hellzyea, I wanna see eight. Hey, how about one of those....ahh,,what were they called...?
Oh, complete games. How about one of those?!

d'Kong76
Jun 15 2016 08:36 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

This is fun! Gonna need to tap another keg of Schaefer.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 08:44 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

11 ks, 3 hits after eight. Didn't have an eye on the pitch count but must be right around 100.

Run him out again TC, and give him a few bumps.

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2016 08:44 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I suppose, after all the shit games we've had lately, that it would seem ungrateful to complain about "wasting" all this hitting on the same night we get a dominant pitching performance.
But, SHYEEEET, if they could have just spread a few of these runs around ...

seawolf17
Jun 15 2016 08:50 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

If you're a starting pitcher batting for yourself in the bottom of the eighth, something's going very right.

d'Kong76
Jun 15 2016 08:51 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

And a fifth time is something going really really very right.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 08:53 PM
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Oh, I now understand why they have been trying to keep mah man Reynolds on a shelf.
They had a plan for him. He's going to be our future third baseman if Wright goes wrong.

Playing second tonight, and in a number of ways his early days remind me of Jeff Kent's early days.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 08:55 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Noah for the ninth!

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 08:57 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

de Aza=useless.

Lead off double by some Buc with goldielocks.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 09:01 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Hmmm.

Shutouts in jeopardy, baby, OOOOOO-OooOO-OO-OO. Shutouts in jeopardy, baby, OOO...

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 09:04 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Awwww. Pittsburgh scores and Thor will head to the showers. Hey, you got into the 9th lookin' strong, kid. One step at a time.

Nymr83
Jun 15 2016 09:07 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I'm all for stretching your pitcher when it matters, but i dont see the need for 116 pitches in an 11-0 game. he should have gone 7 and called it a night.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 09:09 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I like this Kang kid on the Pirates. He's just an all around natural in the field, at the plate, and on the bases. Very smooth third baseman.

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 09:12 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Error all the way? Flores wasn't even supposed to glove that! Great stop. Horrible throw.

themetfairy
Jun 15 2016 09:17 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Zvon
Jun 15 2016 09:19 PM
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Familia here, huh?

Who am I to question a win such as this? Great game. Yea FK, you know baseball, we may be wanting a few of these hits spread out over this next week, but we will take what we can get. I'm happy because I really wanted to see them string some hits and get runs w/o the longball, and they did that right out of the chute tonight.

You see Flores, batting cleanup and driving in 4 (esp if you saw the first 2 ribbys), and you have to smile.

I know we supposedly have a number of aces in this rotation, but Thor is ridiculous. Long may he throw!

Ceetar
Jun 15 2016 09:43 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Nymr83 wrote:
I'm all for stretching your pitcher when it matters, but i dont see the need for 116 pitches in an 11-0 game. he should have gone 7 and called it a night.


there's no evidence that throwing another 30 pitches is actually in any way detrimental.

and hell, it may help. Now he's sorta stretched out a little further and if he needs to throw 110 against the Nats he won't be stretching his endurance as much.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 16 2016 07:01 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Thor was on a week's rest so I didn't have any problem with Terry pushing him a bit there. And Fammy hadn't been in a game in 5 days so he needed the work.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2016 07:57 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard



Cast your vote!

Centerfield
Jun 16 2016 08:24 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Way to go the other way tonight, FWilmer.


Can I say what a thing of beauty it was to watch these opposite field hits? I know it's not as easy as some would make it seem, but man, take the ball the other way boys. You'll score 11 runs every game.

Centerfield
Jun 16 2016 08:25 AM
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I keep looking for him every time they say "Jaso".

seawolf17
Jun 16 2016 08:30 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Centerfield wrote:


I keep looking for him every time they say "Jaso".

I was half-watching at one point and that made me double-take too.

Edgy MD
Jun 16 2016 08:35 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Centerfield wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Way to go the other way tonight, FWilmer.


Can I say what a thing of beauty it was to watch these opposite field hits? I know it's not as easy as some would make it seem, but man, take the ball the other way boys. You'll score 11 runs every game.

Wilmer's swing traditionally has given him almost no coverage on the outside of the plate. That's where they've pitched him traditionally and fouls or balls on siders away have been the best we can hope for.

He hurts the pitcher with a few doinks the other way, which is when I made that post, and finally they had to come in on him the next time. FLABOOM!! was his answer.

I heart the AdaptoMets. It's been a long time coming.

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2016 08:39 AM
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The problem with Wilmer's swing is that he's never going to hit with any authority to the opposite field.
Pokes and the odd piece o' luck are great, but that's about all he's going to get in that direction.

Centerfield
Jun 16 2016 09:41 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Frayed Knot wrote:
The problem with Wilmer's swing is that he's never going to hit with any authority to the opposite field.
Pokes and the odd piece o' luck are great, but that's about all he's going to get in that direction.


How can you tell that? Something about his swing?

Centerfield
Jun 16 2016 09:46 AM
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Couple of random thoughts:

1. Loved Curtis Granderson's opposite field hit. I think it was my favorite of the night.

2. I would not want to try to catch Yoenis Cespedes's line drives. I think it would scare the shit out of me. I've always felt LF was harder to play than CF, and Starling Marte demonstrated that last night. That screaming sinking line drive was fucking crazy. Kudos to him for making a dive when every instinct I have would be to run away.

3. Can we just stop using Familia with big leads? I feel like every time this happens we hear "And now you have to be concerned about his pitch count. Terry wanted him to get work, but he's getting more than he bargained for..."

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2016 10:10 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Centerfield wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
The problem with Wilmer's swing is that he's never going to hit with any authority to the opposite field.
Pokes and the odd piece o' luck are great, but that's about all he's going to get in that direction.


How can you tell that? Something about his swing?


Mostly about his results. Like have we ever seen him hit a ball hard the other way?

And, yes, it's about his swing also, although I don't know enough about hitting to explain it properly; it's more a 'know it when I see it' kind of thing.
Also, was watching a Mets/Phils game via the Philly station not long after Wilmer first came up and color-man Matt Stairs talked at length about how he'd never hit the ball with any authority to the opposite field based solely on how he held his hands. Again, the specific mechanics were a bit beyond me but Stairs, who I'm not even sure had seen Wilmer prior to that day, went on to describe Wilmer perfectly based on nothing more than his stance, hands, and a couple of swings.

Centerfield
Jun 16 2016 10:16 AM
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That's interesting to know.

I agree. I have never seen Wilmer hit a ball the other way with authority, but I always figured it was about mindset, and not anything mechanically.

I noticed during his hot streak in 2014 that all of his HR's are hit to LF. In about the same place too.

Edgy MD
Jun 16 2016 10:27 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I'm not one to say never, but it's certainly something that struck me early. I'm hoping that he wouldn't necessarily have to go the other way with authority, but just making enough contact to keep the pitcher and the defense honest would be nice.

He's had 25 career homers — 14 to left, 10 to left-center, and one to right. Interestingly enough, that one opposite-fielder was his very first career homer, off of Heath Bell back in 2013.

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2016 11:02 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Edgy MD wrote:
I'm not one to say never, but it's certainly something that struck me early. I'm hoping that he wouldn't necessarily have to go the other way with authority, but just making enough contact to keep the pitcher and the defense honest would be nice.


Of all the times that Keith, or numerous others of his generation, go into their 'players these days' laments, the one I tend to agree with most is to bemoan the loss of the 'two-strike swing' where a player cuts down and goes the other way so as to make contact and avoid strikeouts.
For whatever reason, ex-Cub (also Philly, Padre, Tiger) Keith Morland is the guy I think of when this topic comes up. A big, blocky, 'swing hard in case you hit it' type, Moreland was the epitome of a hit-only player to the point where his lack of fielding prowess in multiple positions got him immortalized in Steve Goodman's talking-blues classic 'The Dying Cub Fan's Last Request'*, you'd think he'd be the last type to put his macho aside when behind in the count but I remember him doing so regularly and wound up with a 12 year career that had almost as many XBHs and walks as he did Ks [349 v 405 v 515].

As for Wilmer, I love it if/when he goes to RF, although the three times he went that way last night -- two dribblers and a bloop beyond 1B -- were more by luck than design, even if the 2 RBIs were nice.





* Have the organ play the "National Anthem"
and then a little 'na, na, na, na, hey hey, hey, Goodbye'
Make six bullpen pitchers, carry my coffin
and six ground keepers clear my path
Have the umpires bark me out at every base
In all their holy wrath
Its a beautiful day for a funeral, Hey Ernie lets play two!
Somebody go get Jack Brickhouse to come back,
and conduct just one more interview
Have the Cubbies run right out into the middle of the field,
Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly
Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt
And I'll be ready to die

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 16 2016 11:24 AM
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[youtube:31qnrrfz]ph6O-XgFZFs[/youtube:31qnrrfz]

I dunno if Wilmer is incapable or just, that's what his swing does best so that's what he does.

d'Kong76
Jun 16 2016 11:35 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

I thought I'd seen him hit the ball with some pop the other way
but I never would have guessed it was his first homer. I remember
the silent treatment more than the homer. Good find.

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2016 11:36 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I dunno if Wilmer is incapable or just, that's what his swing does best so that's what he does.


I think it's just what his swing does best.
And, although his calling card coming up through the minors was his good bat-on-ball skills so you'd think that he should be able to go the other way, I just don't know if it'll ever consist of much beyond just serving the ball that way rather than hitting it with much authority.

On the flip side, that one he turned on last night and hit over the Great Wall of Flushing reminds you of why peeps had so much hope in him. That thing got outta there in a hurry.

Ceetar
Jun 16 2016 12:24 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Frayed Knot wrote:


Of all the times that Keith, or numerous others of his generation, go into their 'players these days' laments, the one I tend to agree with most is to bemoan the loss of the 'two-strike swing' where a player cuts down and goes the other way so as to make contact and avoid strikeouts.


OPS with 2 strikes
2011-2016 .514 OPS
2000-2010 .551 OPS
90s .545
88-89 .511

% of balls in play
2011-2016 50.34% .292 babip
2000-2010 52.6% .292 babip
90s 53.32% .290 babip
88-89 55.67% .278 babip

I'm not sure any of that's particularly meaningful of course. I'm sure hitters have decided that altering there approach hurts more than it helps. Has there been any research into whether or not it even helps?

Edgy MD
Jun 16 2016 12:44 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
[youtube]ph6O-XgFZFs[/youtube]

I dunno if Wilmer is incapable or just, that's what his swing does best so that's what he does.

I'm still not certain Bell didn't split his pants there. Come on, Arizona, give your guys some fabric.

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2016 01:02 PM
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Has there been any research into whether or not it even helps?


You mean other than the fact that strikeout rates have quintupled every decade? or something like that

Ceetar
Jun 16 2016 01:06 PM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard

Frayed Knot wrote:
Has there been any research into whether or not it even helps?


You mean other than the fact that strikeout rates have quintupled every decade? or something like that


yes. not striking out is not the goal, getting on base safely is the goal.

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2016 01:17 PM
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In certain situations, yes it is.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 01 2016 08:09 AM
Re: IGT 06/15: PIT@NYM, Locke@Syndergaard