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Roster shakeup ahead?

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 20 2016 01:19 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 20 2016 02:08 AM

There are reports of a roster shakeup after this embarrassing Braves series. Some reports say that Conforto, who had the only hit on Sunday, is headed to Vegas to get straightened out. What else would you do? Walker played third in the minors. Move him there and bring up Dilson for second and send Flores back to his utility status? Deal with Henderson and Bastardo? Are there any Vegas arms we want? Plawecki or Rivera to Vegas when d'Isabled List Catcher returns?

Zvon Jun 20 2016 01:55 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Plaw will go down. I don't want to see Conforto go down but as I've said before, I'm not against it. I think he should be able to work this out up here. I have yet to consider him a liability. I have a little more faith in Henderson but you can bounce Bastardo's bubblebutt outta here. deAza= DFA. The reason we got him is no longer valid. I wanna see Dilson up. Nimmo up would be nice and if we are going to suck, might as well let us fans take a look see at him.

Ashie62 Jun 20 2016 02:20 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

I see two guys, other than d'Arnaud, that could provide the spark we need and thats Nimmo and Dilson. However, Walker is just ok at 2b. Sooo... I have no clue.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2016 02:53 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Conforto's fine, star in the making. Did I mention huge? Stud?

Frayed Knot Jun 20 2016 03:09 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Plawecki's certainly going down as soon as d'Arnaud is ready. Rivera has earned the backup role and, unfortunately, Plawecki is now 0-for-2 at grabbing the job that was there for the taking. I don't think Nimmo is coming up unless it's to play more or less full-time. It doesn't mean that once up he's up to stay, but it's essentially dependent on Conforto going down. I'd do it and I think Sandy et al are getting close. At worst he platoons with Lagares when he comes back or gets re-swapped with Conforto if he flops, but he can't flop any worse that Conforto is now. Walker to 3B with Dilson to 2B is possible down the road but not immediately. Besides the fact that Walker hasn't played there in a decade or so is that Flores would be the big loser in that swap and he's the one guy semi-hitting right now. EVERY fan on EVERY team bitches about their bullpen; the difference here is that ours has the best ERA in all of baseball. And while you might think it's easy to reach into a pile of unused relievers and grab two who are better than Henderson & Bastardo that's likely wishful thinking. Bastardo also has a two-year contract and I don't think they're bailing on that 1/3 of the way into year one. On the other hand it'll be trade time starting a few weeks from now.

Ashie62 Jun 20 2016 01:06 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

I was thinking a of Lagares Nimmo and Conforto troika of some sort. Most teams bullpens are so erratic that I can't think of any improvements but admit I am tired of Bastardo. This is kinda insane but Pablo Sandoval is likely available. Later.

Frayed Knot Jun 20 2016 01:09 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Ashie62 wrote: I was thinking a of Lagares Nimmo and Conforto troika of some sort. They're not going to shoe-horn the three of them into one slot.

MFS62 Jun 20 2016 01:30 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Ashie62 wrote: Later. I am going on record right now to inform the CPF-ers to whom it is not obvious that Ashie62 and I are NOT the same person. And I'm damn proud of it. Later

Lefty Specialist Jun 20 2016 01:41 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Agree. I'm done with Plawecki. He certainly can't say he didn't get a chance. Lagares was one of the few people who was hitting before he went down, so when he's back he's got to get more playing time. I'm okay with Conforto going down; he just needs to get his head straight and he'll be fine. I want to get rid of Granderson. I'm just tired of it. How can you have 13 HR's and only 21 RBI? That's virtually impossible to do. He just is a total fail with runners on base. And the noodle arm in right also makes no sense. He's always 'just about to turn the corner' but never does. Yeah, lots of lead-off home runs but bla, bla, bla, nothing else. The bullpen blows very few games for this team. But every starting pitcher knows if he gives up a run or two he's screwed.

G-Fafif Jun 20 2016 02:30 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Don't bring up Campbell.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2016 03:04 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Don't even bring him up in idle conversation!

G-Fafif Jun 20 2016 03:32 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

d'Kong76 wrote: Don't even bring him up in idle conversation! Good point. Next time I'm offered soup or salad, I'm going with the latter -- unless Antonio Bastardo's nickname is Salad.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 20 2016 04:35 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Honestly, I'm tired of this. I'm even tired of the speculation. I just kinda want to sadnap in between shifts at work/mornings with YoungerPooper until I hear a breaking news alert on my phone/computer.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2016 04:47 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Well, right now the brain-trust is in a conference room at Citi plotting the next move. Sadly, we no longer have a union guy on the forum payroll to shimmy around in the duct work to let us know what they're up to.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 20 2016 05:10 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

That's because of those budget cuts from Stockholm.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 20 2016 05:23 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

FLURJGH YOU, SWEDISH BRANCH

seawolf17 Jun 20 2016 05:54 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Lefty Specialist wrote: I want to get rid of Granderson. I'm just tired of it. How can you have 13 HR's and only 21 RBI? That's virtually impossible to do. You know, I was going to write this off and say it's just that he bats leadoff and the guys at the bottom of the order are hitting a collective .150, but he's had 125 baserunners in his ABs -- fourth on the team -- and he's only scored eight of them (6%), which is, incredibly, a worse percentage than Eric Campbell (4 for 53, or 8%).

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2016 06:13 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Except for his own 'sucks' thread Curtis kinda gets a free pass by a lot of fans. And geez, they're on the hook for another year for a big chunk of change. Coach Grandy doesn't have the same bite as Cuddy, but he's basically Mr. Nice guy and clubhouse guy without much more most nights. I always liked the term noodle arm, good one!

Ceetar Jun 20 2016 06:25 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Granderson started slowly but he's been better as of late. (excepting the last 4-5 games when no one really has) RBIs mean nothing.

Frayed Knot Jun 20 2016 06:28 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead? Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 20 2016 06:34 PM

Grandy also has 59 NYM HRs in less than 2-1/2 seasons, plays everyday (not a small accomplishment on this squad), and was the top offensive player on the team in 2015 (acc to our end of season rankings) -- so it's not exactly like he's been getting one over on folks with nothing beyond a smile and batting eyelashes. That he's sucked all season so far in virtually every situation except for his 1st inning leadoff ABs has got to be more a fluke than a cause-and-effect character flaw so you'd have to figure there'd have to be some regression to the mean at some point. Overall his BA/OBA are down this year but not alarmingly so (closer to 2014 than '15) but his power is actually up a tick despite all his other problems. Ideally I'd prefer he NOT be a RF'er (but apparently Yoenis has RF-aphobia) and that they had a strong-ish RHB that they could sub in for him occasionally with the aim of slowly easing him out over the next year and a half, but we've got a long list of more pressing problems than that right now.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2016 06:30 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

I'm just Metsdepressed, pay no attention to me...

Edgy MD Jun 20 2016 07:35 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

I gots nothing particularly bad to say on Curtis. He's turned it around in the past and I trust he's doing that now. I wish he'd strike out less, but I wish everybody would. Best places for improvement look like catcher, followed by first, followed by left.

Ashie62 Jun 20 2016 09:45 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Frayed Knot wrote: Ashie62 wrote: I was thinking a of Lagares Nimmo and Conforto troika of some sort. They're not going to shoe-horn the three of them into one slot. No, I'm thinking more about Lagare's thumb.

Ashie62 Jun 20 2016 09:58 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Harvey possibly to the Red Sox? New to me. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2016/06/mets_red_sox_talked_matt_harvey_trade_in_offseason.html#incart_river_index

bmfc1 Jun 21 2016 02:03 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Rubin says that the Mets are pondering Reyes.

d'Kong76 Jun 21 2016 02:15 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

He's ponderingable. I think there's gonna be some crazy trade in about three weeks. Maybe four. But crazy. Crazy good.

Edgy MD Jun 21 2016 03:36 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

d'Kong76 wrote: I think there's gonna be some crazy trade in about three weeks. You've been to the future again, haven't you? It's Votto, isn't it?

Lefty Specialist Jun 21 2016 12:15 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Boy, Votto's dangerous with that long contract (2023!!!) and injury history.

Edgy MD Jun 21 2016 01:00 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Yup. It's a risk-intensive world. On one hand, he's making half of what Harper and Trout will soon be making. On the other hand, it's a leap of faith whether he will be half the player that they are going forward. But I thought it was a name to throw out. I'm not privy to Kongdreams.

Ashie62 Jun 21 2016 01:27 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Even David Wright turned out to be dangerous. Ask about Votto Mets

seawolf17 Jun 21 2016 02:01 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Unless the Reds are eating a lot of salary, I'm meh on Votto. But Jay Bruce would be interesting.

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2016 02:16 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Bruce is going to be a big name for a lot of teams in trade deadline talks this summer and has seemingly been on the NYM radar forever - even going back to his draft year when they reportedly passed him over for Pelfrey (JB was taken 4 picks later). But is a meh-BA (.274 this season but .249 career), high-K (150+/yr avg), lefty-swinging OF really what we want for a half-season? Seems to me we've already got our share of guys fitting that description and I'd just as soon take my chances with Conforto-Nimmo (sounds like a cloud of some sort) than spend resources on him. If he did come presumably he'd play RF--where he'd upgrade the arm situation but probably not the glove--while shoving Grandy over to LF and relegating all the younger guys to the bench/Vegas.

Centerfield Jun 21 2016 02:20 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Frayed Knot wrote: Bruce is going to be a big name for a lot of teams in trade deadline talks this summer and has seemingly been on the NYM radar forever - even going back to his draft year when they reportedly passed him over for Pelfrey (JB was taken 4 picks later). But is a meh-BA (.274 this season but .249 career), high-K (150+/yr avg), lefty-swinging OF really what we want for a half-season? Seems to me we've already got our share of guys fitting that description and I'd just as soon take my chances with Conforto-Nimmo (sounds like a cloud of some sort) than spend resources on him. If he did come presumably he'd play RF--where he'd upgrade the arm situation but probably not the glove--while shoving Grandy over to LF and relegating all the younger guys to the bench/Vegas. Agreed. Pass on Bruce.

TransMonk Jun 21 2016 04:44 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Worst. Shakeup. Ever. Adam Rubin wrote: Team officials would not swear to that decision late Monday, but they acknowledged the only shakeup when the Mets resume play on Tuesday against the Kansas City Royals at Citi Field may be Travis d'Arnaud's return from the disabled list. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... rs-for-now

Benjamin Grimm Jun 21 2016 04:53 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Benjamin Grimm Jun 21 2016 06:08 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe lists the Mets as one of several teams that may be a good fit for... Ryan Braun. Ryan Braun, OF, Brewers — “He’s the hot name out there,” said one National League scout. Braun is having an outstanding year, seemingly all the way back from PED disgrace and the subsequent reduction of his numbers. Which team could benefit from the righthanded, middle-of-the-order bat? The scout thought the Astros, Cardinals, Red Sox, Phillies, Mets, Giants, and White Sox were good fits. Braun is in the first year of a five-year, $105 million extension. http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redso ... story.html

Lefty Specialist Jun 21 2016 07:17 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

F no on Braun.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 21 2016 07:25 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Get Reyes and Braun and we can recreate the 2011 batting title race. Each day, the first one of the two to get a bunt single gets to leave the game early.

Ceetar Jun 21 2016 07:34 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Braun would be a great get. wonder what he'd cost. probalby more than Wheeler.

Ashie62 Jun 21 2016 10:01 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

It will take more tahn Wheeler now. Zack Wheeler has been backed off his rehab due to renewed elbow discomfort. He won't throw his scheduled simulated game this week, and this will also further delay a minor league rehab assignment. Wheeler had been aiming to return from Tommy John surgery shortly after the All-Star break. He might now be sidelined through all of July. The right-hander is scheduled to be examined by Mets team doctors on Wednesday in New York. DiComo

Edgy MD Jun 22 2016 02:00 PM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

OPS Rankings of Mets by Position Among 15 NL Teams [list]Catcher: 15 First Base: 13 Second Base: 4 Third Base: 7 Shortstop: 9 Left Field: 8 Center Field: 2 Right Field: 9 Pitcher: 2 Designated Hitter: 3 Pinch Hitter: 13[/list:u] Looks to me like first base is the place to make an acquisition, and perhaps backup catcher if the right guy can be identified.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 23 2016 02:46 AM Re: Roster shakeup ahead?

Depth acquisitions with offensive pop work too. (See: "pinch hitting.") Also, also... unless Wilmer starts living up to that potential, that third base ranking will likely free-fall in the coming weeks.