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All Star IGT 7/12/16

Fman99
Jul 12 2016 11:06 AM

I will admit caring a whole lot less with Thor and Cespy not playing tonight.

I'll still be watching. We have a side bet pool in our fantasy baseball league (sorry to cross the streams, but it's relevant) on how many guys from our individual teams make it into the game, so I at least have a reason to watch the whole thing.

bmfc1
Jul 12 2016 11:18 AM
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My enthusiasm has been curbed without Cespedes in the lineup. Colon might be held in reserve and Familia won't be seen until the 9th so the thought of thrilling to the arrogance of Joe Buck, hearing from Brave John Smoltz (who might be good, I don't care), and then not-watching the best players (e.g., Bumgarner, Strasburg) while we're told that the game "counts"... yeah, I care a whole lot less, too.

Move the game to Wednesday so that Sunday pitchers can participate and the Futures game can have the proper showcase it deserves.

Edgy MD
Jul 12 2016 11:44 AM
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[*:2t9fo2re]Myers, SD, dh[/*:m:2t9fo2re]
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Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 12:05 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I love the All-Star Game, and Terry has incentive to play to win so we can have home-field advantage in the World Series this year!

I wouldn't be surprised to see Colon get into the game. Terry's managing and it's a nice career salute for Bartolo.

bmfc1
Jul 12 2016 12:13 PM
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Terry might want to win but it's not as important to Jose Fernandez:
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/07/12/jos ... t-a-homer/

d'Kong76
Jul 12 2016 12:14 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Gonna record it and sift through it tomorrow for any Metly highlights. I
can't sit through hours and hours of Foxlyfluffernutter.

TransMonk
Jul 12 2016 12:45 PM
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My dad is visiting tonight, so we will likely have it on...but in the background.

I've got hives beginning to form just thinking about having to listen to Joe Buck in a few hours.

G-Fafif
Jul 12 2016 01:00 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

The player introductions will be the highlight. Anything else is gravy. Terry said he offered Jake a spot but was turned down, with JdG preferring to rest. I assume that's the one that went to Bartolo.

themetfairy
Jul 12 2016 01:18 PM
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Watch it on ESPN Deportes. It has to be better that way!

Normally I'd be doing that, but I scored free Ticketmaster tix to see Hall & Oates with Trombone Shorty as an opening act, so I'll be missing the game.

d'Kong76
Jul 12 2016 01:29 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
Watch it on ESPN Deportes. It has to be better that way!

I would record that instead, but it's not listed as being available here.
We have Verizon Fios; OJ Made in America is in that time slot.

Does Fox have a Spanish-speaking channel? haha

G-Fafif
Jul 12 2016 01:31 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Does Fox have a Spanish channel? haha


iSI!. I've taken in World Series games via Fox Deportes until it gets a little too weird.

Centerfield
Jul 12 2016 01:37 PM
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Hi. I'm Tom Verducci. I exist solely because some of you claimed no one could be more annoying than Joe Buck. And because our gods, old and new, are assholes.

d'Kong76
Jul 12 2016 01:38 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
iSI!. I've taken in World Series games via Fox Deportes until it gets a little too weird.

Cool, thanks. We have so many channels sometimes I really don't know
what's available. The show that's on now isn't in HD but I imagine TASG
will be.

d'Kong76
Jul 12 2016 01:43 PM
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It's pretty funny that compulsive baseball fans loathe a team of
broadcasters so much that they will watch in a second language.

Someone should tweet that to Buck et al from us.

Edgy MD
Jul 12 2016 01:57 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

G-Fafif wrote:
The player introductions will be the highlight. Anything else is gravy. Terry said he offered Jake a spot but was turned down, with JdG preferring to rest. I assume that's the one that went to Bartolo.

A report of Jake turning down an All-Star slot is disappointing to me.

A report of Jake explicitly deferring to Bartolo is far more encouraging.

A subtle distinction that means everything.

G-Fafif
Jul 12 2016 02:02 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
A report of Jake explicitly deferring to Bartolo is far more encouraging.


Like Rudy, except with the "he's too small to play" angle rewritten.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 02:30 PM
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Centerfield wrote:

Hi. I'm Tom Verducci. I exist solely because some of you claimed no one could be more annoying than Joe Buck. And because our gods, old and new, are assholes*.


* Unless they are Yankees, especially Derek Jeter. Remember, it's Verducci.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 12 2016 02:32 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

G-Fafif wrote:
The player introductions will be the highlight. Anything else is gravy. Terry said he offered Jake a spot but was turned down, with JdG preferring to rest. I assume that's the one that went to Bartolo.


Far more deserving he woulda been

bmfc1
Jul 12 2016 03:04 PM
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Good chance that Verducci finds an excuse to interview Torre tonight, right?

G-Fafif
Jul 12 2016 03:06 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
Good chance that Verducci finds an excuse to interview Torre tonight, right?


"Joe, you're a gem, a national treasure, a living monument to immortality."
"What's the question, Tom?"

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 03:18 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
Good chance that Verducci finds an excuse to interview Torre tonight, right?


"Joe, you're a gem, a national treasure, a living monument to immortality."
"What's the question, Tom?"



Did Derek Jeter's very presence make you an even better manager?

soupcan
Jul 12 2016 07:23 PM
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Why's everything gotta be about merchandise?

Those are some ugly-ass hats.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 12 2016 07:24 PM
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The fucking AL is the home team. Stupid.

soupcan
Jul 12 2016 07:25 PM
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Um, why is the AL the home team in an NL park?

What the fuck has MLB done with this game!?

HahnSolo
Jul 12 2016 07:28 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The fucking AL is the home team. Stupid.

Yeah I was confuzzled by that. I'm sure there's a reason and I'm just as sure it's a stupid one.

Edgy MD
Jul 12 2016 07:51 PM
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The reason is probably that the current schedule of All Star Games is concentrated in NL parks, so they have to come up with a dumb non-solution by making the AL the home team in the odd NL park.

I see Terry's losing a lead to the Royals again.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 07:52 PM
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Am I still watching the home run derby? I don't hear any loud drunk guys...

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:08 PM
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CarGo. Will get it going. Hamels will choke this up!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:10 PM
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Interesting slide there by CarGo.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:14 PM
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Rats!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:21 PM
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Nice moment for Ortiz.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 08:24 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Nice moment for Ortiz.


That was. I'm gonna miss Ortiz. He's like a Boston legend now.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 08:28 PM
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TC interview. I love those Met caps. Those would be great for interior painting.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:28 PM
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Double play interrupts Fox promo of one of its shows. At least the network stopped shuffling them through the row behind the dugout.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:31 PM
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TC can start pulling Cubs now!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:42 PM
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I'm embarrassed that I've never heard of this Padre pitcher TC just threw in here.

And he did a nice job!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 08:55 PM
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The heck was Ramos swinging at? That was the NL's best chance.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 09:04 PM
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Who wants to bet that Ken Rosenthal isn't the shortest adult male in the stadium.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:05 PM
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That was an amazing stat in the booth -- The Braves' trio of Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz struck out Tony Gwynn a total of three times -- combined.

bmfc1
Jul 12 2016 09:05 PM
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By all means F cancer but what the hell is this mid-game concert? The game didn't start until 8:20. Way to grow the game, Manfred.

Having said that, this was nice: Rising Apple ?@RisingAppleBlog 54s55 seconds ago
During tonight's #StandUpToCancer moment, Terry Collins, Tim Teufel, and Daniel Murphy wrote that they were standing up for Sandy. Perfect.

Ceetar
Jul 12 2016 09:06 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
By all means F cancer but what the hell is this mid-game concert? The game didn't start until 8:20. Way to grow the game, Manfred.


they've been doing this for what, at least half a decade?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:07 PM
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Nice to see TC list Sandy on his Stand Up card!

But stopping the game for this song is a bad move.

Frayed Knot
Jul 12 2016 09:13 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
I'm embarrassed that I've never heard of this Padre pitcher TC just threw in here.

And he did a nice job!


He one-hit the Mets (over 5 innings) just two months ago -- http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=8732

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 09:17 PM
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Big Papi is sitting and he's taller than Rosenthal.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 09:21 PM
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By all means F cancer but what the hell is this mid-game concert? The game didn't start until 8:20. Way to grow the game, Manfred.

Having said that, this was nice: Rising Apple ?@RisingAppleBlog 54s55 seconds ago
During tonight's #StandUpToCancer moment, Terry Collins, Tim Teufel, and Daniel Murphy wrote that they were standing up for Sandy. Perfect.


Ditto. I'm half paying attention. The gesture was beautiful. The timing was blotto. Just extend the 7th inning stretch. As a matter of fact when I saw that going on I thought: what is this the 7th already?

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 09:22 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
By all means F cancer but what the hell is this mid-game concert? The game didn't start until 8:20. Way to grow the game, Manfred.


they've been doing this for what, at least half a decade?

I'm okay with the moment of silence and the signs. We didn't need the extra pop tune. Get that the hell out of there.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:22 PM
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It seems like Fox obsesses on one player each year as the story of the game -- and it's Ortiz this year. Enough already.

Didn't he get popped for PEDs?

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 09:22 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Nice to see TC list Sandy on his Stand Up card!

But stopping the game for this song is a bad move.


Yea, just the "stand up" part would have been acceptable. What part did that song play?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:30 PM
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I like the gold on the caps and the star eyelets, but the grey brims don't look right.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:32 PM
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Terry's running out of time to get Familia in there.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 12 2016 09:33 PM
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So they didn't show the Canadian national anthem but evidently a fucknut from the vocal group singing it saw fit to hold up an All Lives Matter sign during the performance! Entertainers are such idiots

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 09:37 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Terry's running out of time to get Familia in there.


If Fammy gets in I predict he has an aweful outing. He's due and I'd rather he have that outing here rather than when the season resumes. I don't wish it on him or anything but if he's gonna mess up any time soon, let it be tonight.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:38 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
So they didn't show the Canadian national anthem but evidently a fucknut from the vocal group singing it saw fit to hold up an All Lives Matter sign during the performance! Entertainers are such idiots



Was it an All Lives Matter sponsored by Pepsi card?

I'd believe that.

Edgy MD
Jul 12 2016 09:38 PM
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Familia's young. Colón is the one to watch out for.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:39 PM
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Would Terry become the first All-Star manager not to use a single one of his own players?

Did we really need a fifth Cub in there, now that Lester's in the game?

And he's got Strasburg down there, too?

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 09:42 PM
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Familia's gotta close, no? Terry won't use him early.

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 09:42 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Would Terry become the first All-Star manager not to use a single one of his own players?

Did we really need a fifth Cub in there, now that Lester's in the game?

And he's got Strasburg down there, too?

Strasburg was just standing in the dugout, so we probably won't see him soon.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:44 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Familia's gotta close, no? Terry won't use him early.



The NL's not gonna get a ninth inning to pitch if this keeps up.

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 09:50 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
Familia's gotta close, no? Terry won't use him early.



The NL's not gonna get a ninth inning to pitch if this keeps up.

Obviously. But Terry's not going to use him otherwise.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:51 PM
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Nice save by Murph!

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 09:53 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Would Terry become the first All-Star manager not to use a single one of his own players?


That would make for some interesting press.
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Familia's gotta close, no? Terry won't use him early.



The NL's not gonna get a ninth inning to pitch if this keeps up.

Obviously. But Terry's not going to use him otherwise.


We all know his M.O.
But he also has that loyalty factor that he throws into the mix at the strangest times.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 09:57 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Would Terry become the first All-Star manager not to use a single one of his own players?


That would make for some interesting press.
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Familia's gotta close, no? Terry won't use him early.



The NL's not gonna get a ninth inning to pitch if this keeps up.

Obviously. But Terry's not going to use him otherwise.


We all know his M.O.
But he also has that loyalty factor that he throws into the mix at the strangest times.



I used to grumble about Torre for getting his own middle relievers in there. But this polar extreme is worse.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:00 PM
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Booth just said Terry told Fox it's important to get every team's uniform in the game at least once, so I have to assume we're getting Bart of Familia next inning. Unless he counts his own trip to the mound to get Lester out of there.

Edgy MD
Jul 12 2016 10:04 PM
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Bench otherwise burned. Terry, you pyromaniac.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:10 PM
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Rats!

NL All-Stars offense resembles a typical Mets night. Maybe Terry's the problem after all!

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 10:11 PM
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Unless he plans on going to Colon mid-inning, he's not getting a Met into this game.

WTF, TERRY.

edit: Forgot Thor was not pitching tonight.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:13 PM
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What??? Rodney??? Are you kidding me, Terry?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:19 PM
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And now Jansen?


I know this shouldn't upset me, but it does. The defending National League champs won't get a single one of their players in the game? We're seeing closers who were traded mid-season and NOT the guy leading the league in saves? I get saving Bart and Strasburg if this goes 10. But at least give us Familia.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:19 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Booth just said Terry told Fox it's important to get every team's uniform in the game at least once, so I have to assume we're getting Bart of Familia next inning. Unless he counts his own trip to the mound to get Lester out of there.


ha. Still no Mets? This is kinda fucked up.

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 10:20 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
And now Jansen?


I know this shouldn't upset me, but it does. The defending National League champs won't get a single one of their players in the game? We're seeing closers who were traded mid-season and NOT the guy leading the league in saves? I get saving Bart and Strasburg if this goes 10. But at least give us Familia.

I'm irrationally angry about this also.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:21 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
And now Jansen?


I know this shouldn't upset me, but it does. The defending National League champs won't get a single one of their players in the game? We're seeing closers who were traded mid-season and NOT the guy leading the league in saves? I get saving Bart and Strasburg if this goes 10. But at least give us Familia.


There's only one way he don't end up smelling like a pile of poop. We have to tie it vs. Britton.

ha

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:22 PM
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Screw you, Terry! After all the crap we've put up with all season, is it too much to give us one guy in the All-Star Game?

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:23 PM
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TC will use the closer for closer excuse, and I'll accept that the way they play the game these days. It's Colon that bugs me. Even for one batter.

He's the "long guy" Buck? There is no "long guy" in the All Star game ya dunce.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:25 PM
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Booth finally catching up to Terry.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:25 PM
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If TC loses his excuse will be he played to win...cause it counts.

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 10:26 PM
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Zvon wrote:
TC will use the closer for closer excuse, and I'll accept that the way they play the game these days. It's Colon that bugs me. Even for one batter.

He's the "long guy" Buck? There is no "long guy" in the All Star game ya dunce.

And EVEN SO... Jon Lester is your long guy. Not your hometown celebrity. I'm pissed.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:28 PM
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Shame on you TC. You're not the only Met I tuned in to see.

Well, up side, rest for all. If Colon gets in the ASG next season and plays, I'll forgive him.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:29 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Zvon wrote:
TC will use the closer for closer excuse, and I'll accept that the way they play the game these days. It's Colon that bugs me. Even for one batter.

He's the "long guy" Buck? There is no "long guy" in the All Star game ya dunce.

And EVEN SO... Jon Lester is your long guy. Not your hometown celebrity. I'm pissed.


And we know Lester isn't all that because the Mets kicked his butt two weeks ago. It's not like we all were clamoring for a fifth Cub in the game.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:30 PM
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Screw you, Terry! Screw you.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:31 PM
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The kid singing the cancer song in the tight skirt got more field time than a Met tonight.

Boooooo!

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:31 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Screw you, Terry! Screw you.


Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:32 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Screw you, Terry! Screw you.





Yes, I mean YOU!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 12 2016 10:34 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
The kid singing the cancer song in the tight skirt got more field time than a Met tonight.

Boooooo!


LOL.

That was disappointing, but I'm sure TC had Familia saved for 9th.

Colon, you know, prolly doesn't deserve to be there.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:37 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

Colon, you know, prolly doesn't deserve to be there.


But he is there and it's his manager and he should have gotten the fat old fuck in there. I say that with love.


Hosmer, "I'll take the truck for pops."
lol, awesome.

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 10:38 PM
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I'm okay with Familia in the 9th. Not using Colon is almost inexcusable.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:40 PM
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Terry, if you are going to screw over your own fans -- and your own players -- you have to at least win the damn game.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:42 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
I'm okay with Familia in the 9th. Not using Colon is almost inexcusable.



Would rather have seen Colon in there instead of that Padre pitcher, and especially instead of Rodney.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:44 PM
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Pete Rose is to a bow tie what Ken Rosenthal is to a speedo.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:49 PM
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Terry: "I care more about the fans of every other team than my own."

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 12 2016 10:50 PM
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I blame Bud Selig.

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 10:51 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I blame Bud Selig.

You know, I kinda do too. Because if it didn't "count," you literally would have had to let Bartolo pinch-hit at some point.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 10:52 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I blame Bud Selig.


Did you just come out of left field?

seawolf17
Jul 12 2016 10:53 PM
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I'm sure this is nothing, but I noticed it.

https://twitter.com/cdorso/status/753073927006654465

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 12 2016 10:57 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
I'm sure this is nothing, but I noticed it.

https://twitter.com/cdorso/status/753073927006654465



I'm sure Jay was saying "Bobby V used some of his own players by this point."

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 12 2016 11:00 PM
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Zvon wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I blame Bud Selig.


Did you just come out of left field?


When I saw the NL in road uniforms even though the NL is the host city, I lost interest. I watched the intros and that's it. Swear to god.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 11:05 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I blame Bud Selig.


Did you just come out of left field?


When I saw the NL in road uniforms even though the NL is the host city, I lost interest. I watched the intros and that's it. Swear to god.


I believe ya. I watched very little although it was on the whole time. Yes, as mentioned earlier the NL park AL rules just adds additional lunacy to this fiasco.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 11:06 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
I'm sure this is nothing, but I noticed it.

https://twitter.com/cdorso/status/753073927006654465


lol. That's excellent work.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 12 2016 11:08 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I blame Bud Selig.


Did you just come out of left field?


When I saw the NL in road uniforms even though the NL is the host city, I lost interest. I watched the intros and that's it. Swear to god.


And something else, while I'm on my soapbox --- they ruined everything when they divided the leagues into three divisions. That's the root of wild cards, inter-league play and every other modern baseball evil, including that the all-stars no longer wear their regular caps during the game anymore.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 11:44 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Gah! This new PC. I can't find that old man yelling at the cloud picture. ;)

Fman99
Jul 13 2016 07:01 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Yeah. I tried, really, to watch, but Fox makes it akin to watching a snuff film. Plus, you know, no Mets, and how the fuck is the NL the road team in an NL park? This game is fucked up as a four dollar bill.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 13 2016 07:05 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Freaking Torre would fill his roster with Yankees and we can't even get Terry to insert one Met into the game.

Edgy MD
Jul 13 2016 07:17 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Terry's all about honor. And you know he's going to exercise his obligation to every other team first.

But guys, I have to say, staying up for the whole game at 11 years old in 1978, and getting to see the John Stearns catch the ninth, didn't really do that much for me. Ephemeral appearances just to air every team's laundry, rather than deliver a thrill to every fan base, actually deliver an equal lack of thrills to all of them.

Play competitive baseball, rather than a fashion show, and the thrills will come.

Fman99
Jul 13 2016 07:34 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Edgy MD wrote:
Terry's all about honor. And you know he's going to exercise his obligation to every other team first.

But guys, I have to say, staying up for the whole game at 11 years old in 1978, and getting to see the John Stearns catch the ninth, didn't really do that much for me. Ephemeral appearances just to air every team's laundry, rather than deliver a thrill to every fan base, actually deliver an equal lack of thrills to all of them.

Play competitive baseball, rather than a fashion show, and the thrills will come.


You're such a grown up sometimes.

Edgy MD
Jul 13 2016 07:41 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Yeah, at 11 and everything.

bmfc1
Jul 13 2016 07:46 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Freaking Torre would fill his roster with Yankees and we can't even get Terry to insert one Met into the game.
Right. Even as an "adult", I'm pissed. Put Colon in early--how many more of these will he have? Get your closer some action if only to get his work in (now, he will pitch Friday regardless of the score). Show some pride for your team being the NL Champs. Terry was more concerned with satisfying the fans of every other team but his own.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 13 2016 07:54 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Edgy MD wrote:
Terry's all about honor. And you know he's going to exercise his obligation to every other team first.

But guys, I have to say, staying up for the whole game at 11 years old in 1978, and getting to see the John Stearns catch the ninth, didn't really do that much for me. Ephemeral appearances just to air every team's laundry, rather than deliver a thrill to every fan base, actually deliver an equal lack of thrills to all of them.

Play competitive baseball, rather than a fashion show, and the thrills will come.


Hey! Stop trying to douse my logic-less rant with logic! I got a full head of steam here! :)

I actually did, as a kid, like to see Stearns in there. Back in those dreadful days, the Mets representative in the All-Star Game was about the only chance to see a Mets player on the national stage.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 13 2016 07:59 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I just looked at the box score to see if either of the Mets pitchers got into the game, and neither did. (Who was the NL manager again?)

And I saw that the American League batted in the bottom of the inning and I figured that had to be a mistake, but then I saw Fman's post that confirmed that that actually is what happened.

Sheesh!

seawolf17
Jul 13 2016 08:17 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

bmfc1 wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Freaking Torre would fill his roster with Yankees and we can't even get Terry to insert one Met into the game.
Right. Even as an "adult", I'm pissed. Put Colon in early--how many more of these will he have? Get your closer some action if only to get his work in (now, he will pitch Friday regardless of the score). Show some pride for your team being the NL Champs. Terry was more concerned with satisfying the fans of every other team but his own.

Then don't tell the fucking Fox guys that you're going to "get every uniform" in there.

Edgy MD
Jul 13 2016 08:26 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I'm thinking of 1977, when Stearns made it as the third catcher despite a poor first half, as somebody from the Mets had to appear, and Seaver had been exiled. By the end of the season, Steve Henderson was their best player, but he was only a few weeks into his career.

I was 10, was up until 11 o'clock, and for my trouble, I got to see John Stearns' all-star ass in the midst of a less than stellar year, warming up Goose Gossage, and then standing with his hips cocked as Boomer Scott homered and circled the bases with a two-run blast. Dude would never get to the plate with a chance to redeem himself for whatever his part in that homer was.

Bleh to fashion show baseball.

d'Kong76
Jul 13 2016 09:00 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I didn't watch, did Buck blow Torre on camera or was it behind the scenes?
Would have been nice to give Uncle Bartolo an inning, but having trouble getting
why everyone is seemingly pissed off about lack of Metly game time.

Thursday off-day is stupid. (have to say it at least once)

Ceetar
Jul 13 2016 09:12 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I would've brought in Colon to pitch to Ortiz. Just to give the stat guys something to do. "The first time these guys faced off, 56% of the All-Star's were in diapers"

Edgy MD
Jul 13 2016 09:25 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

"And this may be our first 600-lb showdown in All-Star history. We have the boys at Elias looking into that. Translate that into kilos for the viewers overseas, would you, fellas? So, Tom, I hear you had the honor to attend Derek and Hannah's wedding ... "

Lefty Specialist
Jul 13 2016 10:06 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Didn't watch a second. Glad I didn't miss anything.

Centerfield
Jul 13 2016 12:11 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Lefty Specialist wrote:
Didn't watch a second. Glad I didn't miss anything.


Me too. Had I been watching, I imagine I would have been pissed the Mets didn't get in. But my aim every all-star break is to avoid injuries, so mission accomplished I guess.

G-Fafif
Jul 13 2016 12:49 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

After that, I wouldn't trust Terry to manage an All-Star Cafe.

Centerfield
Jul 13 2016 12:55 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I get that you're trying to win. And that should be the case. But if I were managing I would think I would consider:

1. Get someone from every team into the game.
2. Get first-timers into the game.
3. Get last-timers into the game
4. Try to injure all Nationals

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 13 2016 01:15 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Apparently the Mets players are pissed, too.

[url]http://nypost.com/2016/07/12/terry-collins-royals-demons-return-as-nl-loses-all-star-game/

Terry, it's better to make happy the guys who play for you in the other 162 games. The innings that went to Lester, Rodney and maybe be Melancon could have been a spot for Big Sexy, who, like Ortiz, is a long-time star likely getting his last chance in an All-Star Game.


And if he is managing to win, they why is he holding back a Cardinals rookie for a key, late-inning situation? He was swinging wildly up there.

It seems like in these close games -- and many recent games have been close -- World Series advantage is not being decided by the best players, but the player representatives for the bad teams.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 13 2016 01:27 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I don't get the impression the players are "pissed."

Embarrassed to have to answer to how they feel having not been used, maybe

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 13 2016 01:37 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:


And if he is managing to win, they why is he holding back a Cardinals rookie for a key, late-inning situation? He was swinging wildly up there.

It seems like in these close games -- and many recent games have been close -- World Series advantage is not being decided by the best players, but the player representatives for the bad teams.



Don't be wasting any of your brain cells analyzing "this counts" -- probably the dumbest baseball thing ever foisted on the game and its fans. The only reason it even exists is as a knee jerk reaction to when ASG managers were too fcking dumb to save players for extra innings in SeligTown.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 13 2016 01:39 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 13 2016 01:41 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:


And if he is managing to win, they why is he holding back a Cardinals rookie for a key, late-inning situation? He was swinging wildly up there.

It seems like in these close games -- and many recent games have been close -- World Series advantage is not being decided by the best players, but the player representatives for the bad teams.



Don't be wasting any of your brain cells analyzing "this counts" -- probably the dumbest baseball thing ever foisted on the game and its fans. The only reason it even exists is as a knee jerk reaction to when ASG managers were too fcking dumb to save players for extra innings in SeligTown.


You know what else? If it weren't for this counts, we wouldn't have had last night's ridiculous spectacle of the NL wearing road unis in an NL host stadium.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 13 2016 01:41 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:


And if he is managing to win, they why is he holding back a Cardinals rookie for a key, late-inning situation? He was swinging wildly up there.

It seems like in these close games -- and many recent games have been close -- World Series advantage is not being decided by the best players, but the player representatives for the bad teams.



Don't be wasting any of your brain cells analyzing "this counts" -- probably the dumbest baseball thing ever foisted on the game and its fans. The only reason it even exists is as a knee jerk reaction to when ASG managers were too fcking dumb to save players for extra innings in SeligTown.


You know what else? If it weren't for this counts, we wouldn't hava had last night's ridicluous spectacle of the NL wearing road unis in an NL host stadium.


Of course, yesterday's managers saved players for extra innings. Namely, every single eligible Met.

cooby
Jul 13 2016 01:46 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

bmfc1 wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Freaking Torre would fill his roster with Yankees and we can't even get Terry to insert one Met into the game.
Right. Even as an "adult", I'm pissed. Put Colon in early--how many more of these will he have? Get your closer some action if only to get his work in (now, he will pitch Friday regardless of the score). Show some pride for your team being the NL Champs. Terry was more concerned with satisfying the fans of every other team but his own.



Amen

cooby
Jul 13 2016 01:47 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

d'Kong76 wrote:
I didn't watch, did Buck blow Torre on camera or was it behind the scenes?
Would have been nice to give Uncle Bartolo an inning, but having trouble getting
why everyone is seemingly pissed off about lack of Metly game time.

Thursday off-day is stupid. (have to say it at least once)


Amen

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 13 2016 02:00 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I'm not as upset about the road uniform thing. If you're going to do a bunch of NL stadia in a row you have to do something, and I think they have a streak Cincy last year, San Diego and then, I think, Miami and Washington.

Is there another new AL stadium besides MFY III? We don't want the game headed back there any time soon.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 13 2016 02:07 PM
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I think the host city acting as a visitor was the single dumbest thing about it, and it could easily have been addressed if the dopes on Park Ave. only planned for it better.

If the AL doesn't want their parks to be home fields then they're not. Solved it!

Edgy MD
Jul 13 2016 02:19 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Is there another new AL stadium besides MFY III? We don't want the game headed back there any time soon.

Newness isn't everything. Oldness is good too. Middle-agedness isn't so bad, come to think of it.

Hey, I fixed it, too!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 13 2016 02:25 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Edgy MD wrote:
Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Is there another new AL stadium besides MFY III? We don't want the game headed back there any time soon.

Newness isn't everything. Oldness is good too. Middle-agedness isn't so bad, come to think of it.

Hey, I fixed it, too!



I'd like it back in Cleveland!

Ashie62
Jul 14 2016 01:25 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I'd prefer it be eliminated altogether.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 14 2016 01:37 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

I'd prefer that it didn't count for anything, like every other exhibition game.

Centerfield
Jul 14 2016 01:39 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

My suggestions:

*All Star Break does back to being 3 days. Monday HR Derby. Tuesday All-Star Game. Wednesday Futures Game. Thursday everyone goes back to work.
*Alternate AL/NL ballparks. Home team is the home team. Can't believe I even have to type this.
*Ditch the home field advantage thing. Let's acknowledge that it's an exhibition by the fact that we can't pick the best players anyway because of the "every team gets an all-star" rule. The team with the better record gets HF advantage in the World Series.
*Ditch the "every team gets an all-star" rule.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 14 2016 01:43 PM
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Centerfield wrote:

*Ditch the "every team gets an all-star" rule.


I'd modify this one so that it's mandatory that the host team have at least one all-star selection.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 14 2016 01:49 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Disclosure: It's probably been about 25 years since I've watched an All-Star Game. I lost interest in the game even before the 1994 strike.

The home-field advantage thing is one of the more stupid ideas that baseball has come up with in recent years. Return it to being an exhibition game, then there's no problem with having at least one representative from each team.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't mind the four-day All-Star break. (Although 30 years ago I know I would have hated it.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 14 2016 01:51 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

The ASG began as an event to raise $$ for player pension funds. That's no longer needed with advances in the player's union.

To make the game "count" and still serve the masters of commerce, sell the naming rights to a corporation that in turn puts up big stakes for charity. Have the managers of the respective clubs choose a charity to play for, with the winner getting a bigger slice of the pool 65/35 or whatever. Encourage fans to also contribute to their chosen charities as part of their ASG voting (click box to contribute $1 or $10 to AL or NL charity).

I think the clubs need a break more than the fans and am beginning to come around to Edgy's "Baseball Week" idea. Why not kick off the event with the Amatuer draft?, then also do the AAA ASG, the Futures, the HR contest, the ASG and maybe a return of Rock-n-Jock softball.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 14 2016 01:54 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Benjamin Grimm wrote:


I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't mind the four-day All-Star break. (Although 30 years ago I know I would have hated it.)


I'm with you. So it's at least a minority of two. In fact, a five-day break, to Saturday, wouldn't bother me either even though that's not happening, mainly because it'd mess with the structure of the most profitable three day Fri-Sat-Sun weekend series.

Ceetar
Jul 14 2016 02:28 PM
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I think they should all go back to work on Thursday and move that off day to early April and try to set it up so all teams can go twice, or more, through the pitching rotation with everyone on an extra days of rest. Maybe the slower ramp up in the colder months will help with injuries.

(I know scheduling doesn't always make this easy to work)

Otherwise do whatever. Hell, go back to rotating WS home field. Give it to the league not hosting the ASG. whatever. Just don't go to record because the AL has a slight advantage due to a regular DH (or do this and get the DH in the NL). Or make the first decider head to head record. There's a reasonable chance the teams have played already that season.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 14 2016 02:34 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

My understanding is that MLB can't award WS home field advantage based on head-to-head or best overall record because, for planning purposes, it needs to know which league will have that home field advantage months before the WS.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 14 2016 03:12 PM
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Why would they need to know the league months in advance? Either way, the cities aren't determined until a few days before.

But I do understand that they'd like to narrow down the possibilities. For example, going into the LCS last year, they knew that the Series would open in Kansas City or Toronto. If team records were a factor, then those two possibilities would have been four, with New York and Chicago included. So they'd have to block out hotel rooms in four cities instead of two.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 14 2016 03:17 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
My understanding is that MLB can't award WS home field advantage based on head-to-head or best overall record because, for planning purposes, it needs to know which league will have that home field advantage months before the WS.



I've heard that, too. It's the toughest championship to deal with logistically.

MLB had to "make it count" after the Milwaukee fiasco, in part because starting players were begging out early to catch flights to the ESPYs. (And I can't believe I even had to type THAT.) Shame on the managers then, and now for seeing that close games are decided by the last guys on the bench. I'd rather have someone like Bryce Harper at the plate with the game on the line and not that Cardinal rookie.

I don't have a problem with the representation rule. I like having a Met there no matter what.

Better planning could still have the NL/AL rotation. Or, consider the game a "neutral site" like it was this year. That didn't upset me as much as it did other folks. I think the challenge is that teams have to want the game and apply for it, which is why the Mets went 49 years between games and why Pittsburgh gets it a lot. I don't know how steep the competition is, or whether that many teams really want to tussle for it. It's a lot of work. I don't know if the Rays have ever hosted. But MLB might not want a showcase in that ballpark.

Ceetar
Jul 14 2016 03:27 PM
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It's 2016 and the league is freaking loaded. Not enough to actually pay minor leaguers, but to pre-book some hotel rooms? come on. You guys always stay at the same hotels anyway, you don't think if Milwaukee gets a playoff berth that downtown Hyatt isn't going to damn well make sure they have the rooms available for the AL team whether it's 1267 or 345?

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 14 2016 03:28 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Why would they need to know the league months in advance? Either way, the cities aren't determined until a few days before.

But I do understand that they'd like to narrow down the possibilities. For example, going into the LCS last year, they knew that the Series would open in Kansas City or Toronto. If team records were a factor, then those two possibilities would have been four, with New York and Chicago included. So they'd have to block out hotel rooms in four cities instead of two.


It's more than hotel availability. Among other things, it's also coordinating with the NFL and its TV schedule. It used to be tougher before this era of single use baseball stadiums, when baseball and football teams from the same city would typically share the same stadium. Remember when you'd see football yard lines painted on baseball fields beginning in late August through the end of the season? I think that the only teams that share a stadium like that today are the Oakland A's and Raiders.

Edgy MD
Jul 14 2016 03:40 PM
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If we do Baseball WeekTM, we can have three games.

If we have three games, we can get everybody in and give them meaningful time without an impossibly dizzy parade of changes.

If we can get everybody in and give them meaningful time without an impossibly dizzy parade of changes, we can continue to have every team represented without farce.
[list][*]Every offensive player would start at least one game.[/*:m]
[*]Three worthy starting pitchers would get to start for each league, instead of one.[/*:m]
[*]Starters would go around five innings instead of two.[/*:m]
[*]Offensive and defensive substitutions would otherwise occur only as the game dictates.[/*:m][/list:u]
If we can continue to have every team represented without farce, the games will be both competitive and fun.

If the games are both competitive and fun, the profile and quality of the All Star [crossout]Game[/crossout] Series will be raised and the World Series link won't be absurd.

Bonuses
[list][*]Injured and hurt players will have time to heal.[/*:m]
[*]Healthy players, even All Stars, will get some R&R with their families[/*:m]
[*]If the league elected, three teams (possibly within a train ride of each other) would host each year, instead of one), keeping a fan base from having to wait 30 or more years for an All Star Game.[/*:m]
[*]Fans can build mid-season travel plans around either the break in the schedule or, alternatively, a full week of baseball pilgrimages.[/*:m]
[*]Fans of even (or especially) the worst teams would enjoy the emotional reset of a second opening day.[/*:m]
[*]Teams would enjoy the big gate and the big publicity of a second opening day.[/*:m]
[*]Days taken from the schedule would be made up for by the return of a handful of Sunday double-headers.[/*:m]
[*]And that's all without mentioning all the other cool stuff going on during Baseball Week that a cleared schedule will focus more light on.
[list][*]Charity events[/*:m]
[*]The Hall of Fame Game[/*:m]
[*]The Hall of Fame Inductions[/*:m]
[*]The Civil Rights Game[/*:m]
[*]Cracker Jack Old Timers Game[/*:m]
[*]The Stupid Draft[/*:m]
[*]The Futures Game[/*:m]
[*]Expanded Skillz Competitions[/*:m]
[*]Rock 'n' Jock, hell yeah[/*:m][/list:u][/*:m][/list:u]

Frayed Knot
Jul 14 2016 03:40 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
My understanding is that MLB can't award WS home field advantage based on head-to-head or best overall record because, for planning purposes, it needs to know which league will have that home field advantage months before the WS.


That was always Selig's argument - that they needed to know in advance if they were going to need late October hotel rooms in say Boston/Cleveland on Tuesday-thru-Thursday and in San Fran/St.Louis on the two surrounding weekends, or the other way around. So, yeah, while you wouldn't always know specifically what city until the last minute, they'd be in a state of pre-reserved if/when you did.
The NFL and their neutral site doesn't have this problem and hoops/hockey (at least according to Sir Bud of Wisonsonia) aren't nearly as large a traveling circus.

Frayed Knot
Jul 14 2016 03:42 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
MLB had to "make it count" after the Milwaukee fiasco, in part because starting players were begging out early to catch flights to the ESPYs.


And because MLB/FOX were worried that ASG ratings weren't the monster they once were.
In fact I think this was the bigger reason and that the tie-game kerfuffle just gave them one more reason for the added gimmick.

Centerfield
Jul 14 2016 03:50 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Well, ratings are sagging everywhere as a result of having 1000 channels to watch. But part of the reason the ASG lost some value (I imagine) is interleague play. All of a sudden it's not interesting to watch and AL pitcher face an NL slugger. It happens every night.

I can't imagine why they need to know which league will host the first 2 games months in advance if the team itself isn't determined until a few days before, but whatever.

I think letting it determine home field is dumb. They should just say the winning team gets to bang the wives of the losers.

Frayed Knot
Jul 14 2016 03:57 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Centerfield wrote:
Well, ratings are sagging everywhere as a result of having 1000 channels to watch. But part of the reason the ASG lost some value (I imagine) is interleague play. All of a sudden it's not interesting to watch and AL pitcher face an NL slugger. It happens every night.


As you say, there's a whole host of reasons. But this started back when the idea of rating for an 'Event' starting to erode was still sinking in and when MLB & FOX were fairly new to each other. And so I suspect both sides were looking for a twist both to goose ratings and distract from the tie game scenario until someone said; Hey, what if ..."

Personally I've always thought the home-field thing was silly although not as criminal as most seem to find it. Probably that's because I never had a problem with the alternating years schedule and because I think that HFA is probably THE most over-rated sports issue of the 21st century. There, I said it.

Edgy MD
Jul 14 2016 04:19 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Centerfield wrote:
I can't imagine why they need to know which league will host the first 2 games months in advance if the team itself isn't determined until a few days before, but whatever.


I imagine they start putting down deposits for hotels around September 1 for all teams that are still in contention and then start withdrawing them as the possibilities get whittled down.

Centerfield wrote:
I think letting it determine home field is dumb. They should just say the winning team gets to bang the wives of the losers.

And you're against posting innocent pictures of prom dates and their cats.

cooby
Jul 15 2016 11:19 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Prom dates and cats? What did I miss?

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 15 2016 11:23 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Brandon Nimmo took his cat to his Junior Prom.

cooby
Jul 19 2016 11:22 AM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

My kind of guy!

seawolf17
Jul 19 2016 02:47 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Brandon Nimmo took his cat to his Junior Prom.

Well, there aren't many girls in Wyoming. You do what you have to do.

G-Fafif
Aug 02 2016 03:28 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Correction: Terry did play a Met in the 2016 All-Star Game...Jay Bruce.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2016 03:49 PM
Re: All Star IGT 7/12/16

Such vision from our Terry.