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Zack Wheeler

Ashie62 Jul 08 2016 11:18 AM

I thought it was time to seperate Zack's issues from Harvey's Is Zack potentially looking at TJ2 like Matz or some other ailment? I just do not understand why pitchers are injured in serious ways so often. I would think the body was not designed for the torque of pitches and swings (baseball and golf) but I don't remember it being like this even after TJ was invented.

Fman99 Jul 08 2016 11:46 AM Re: Zack Wheeler

Broadcasters last night said most realistic return date is mid-late August, based on setbacks encountered during the rehab process.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2016 11:56 AM Re: Zack Wheeler

I thought it was time to seperate Zack's issues from Harvey's -- First of all, bravo for starting a new thread. Too often around here we act as if threads are an endangered species and so topics which merit discussion on their own wind up buried in the midst of some multi-page 'all-purpose' thread. "Is Zack potentially looking at TJ2 like Matz or some other ailment?" -- Matz didn't have a second TJS, he just took longer to recover from it than normal and ran into other issues while trying to come back. Recovery times vary and the timing of Wheeler's surgery (early in the spring) meant his was guaranteed to kill not just one season but also a chunk of the other. In his case an irritated nerve was the latest set-back (the ulnar nerve has to be moved during surgery then put back and nerves tend to frown at being moved and don't always adjust easily to their new/old location). Frustrating but it happens. "I just do not understand why pitchers are injured in serious ways so often. I would think the body was not designed for the torque of pitches and swings (baseball and golf) but I don't remember it being like this even after TJ was invented." -- Your second statement pretty much answers your first and the new generation of throwing harder than hard has only increased elbow injuries. Throwing more and harder as youths (travel teams, year-round baseball, etc.) are thought to be a factor in more and younger TJ surgeries. Throwing taxes ligaments and when you do that often enough they break. Such cases used to end careers with a "sore elbow" but now they're fixable. Suggested Reading: THE ARM: Inside the Billion Dollar Industry of the Most Valuable Commodity in Sports -- Jeff Passan

Edgy MD Jul 08 2016 11:57 AM Re: Zack Wheeler

Ashie62 wrote: I just do not understand why pitchers are injured in serious ways so often. I know this one anyhow. Pitching is just an unnatural and damaging way to make a living.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2016 01:21 PM Re: Zack Wheeler

Read up:

seawolf17 Jul 08 2016 01:23 PM Re: Zack Wheeler

Read up: Just grabbed that from the library this weekend. Looking forward to it.

bmfc1 Jul 08 2016 01:45 PM Re: Zack Wheeler

I'm reading it now. We can meet for a CPF book club. Passan says that Boras took out an insurance policy on Harvey after last season in case he has an injury that "affects free agency or ends his career." Perhaps the policy has nothing to do with the surgery decision but I'm sure that Boras will be advising Matt.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2016 07:32 AM Re: Zack Wheeler

JUST got a library alert about that one, so I'm about to set my teeth in that one, too. Book club! Book club!

Ashie62 Jul 09 2016 11:13 AM Re: Zack Wheeler

Same here.