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Mets First Half MVP


Granderson 1 votes

Cespedes 20 votes

Walker 0 votes

Cabrera 2 votes

Flores 2 votes

Conforto 0 votes

Loney 0 votes

d'Arnaud 0 votes

Plawecki 0 votes

Nimmo 0 votes

Zvon
Jul 11 2016 08:06 PM

This is for players. I'll do another for pitchers.
I don't think I've ever done a poll here before. If I messed up or if someone isn't listed who should be lemme know.

Ashie62
Jul 11 2016 08:53 PM
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Flores?

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 11 2016 08:58 PM
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That's a surprising choice. I would have guessed it would have been unanimous for Cespedes.

cooby
Jul 11 2016 08:59 PM
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Me. I just like the little guy

cooby
Jul 11 2016 09:00 PM
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Besides, what if his mom reads this?

TransMonk
Jul 11 2016 09:03 PM
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Cespedes for sure. I wonder (hope) if Sandy is thinking of any ways of keeping him from opting out of his contract at the end of the year.

In 137 total games with the Mets ('15 + '16), he's batting .295 with 38 HR and 96 RBI. A .949 OPS!

Otherwise, I have been pleasantly surprised by Walker and Cabrera. Most everyone else are who I thought they were.

Centerfield
Jul 11 2016 09:07 PM
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Without a doubt Cespedes. I doubt we'd even be in the discussion without him.

We'd probably be wondering why Lagares, Syndergaard and Matz haven't had surgeries and are risking long-term damage on a team headed nowhere.

Zvon
Jul 11 2016 10:41 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 11 2016 11:54 PM

I haven't voted yet. I'm seriously considering Cabrera. I'm like Cooby, I like the underdog (don't know if I can call Cabrera a little guy). But I think of Cespedes numbers and I stall because they are tough to deny.
To me, what we are getting from Cabrera is so far above what I expected. But that might not be enough to trump Cespedes. Yoenis is doing pretty much what I hoped and expected but that's no reason to take him for granted. I'll mull this over.

Edgy MD
Jul 11 2016 10:51 PM
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I went with Cabrera, and indeed he's second on the team in WAR among hitters.

But I honestly need to be changing my vote. It's Céspedes, pole to pole.

Zvon
Jul 11 2016 11:56 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I went with Cabrera, and indeed he's second on the team in WAR among hitters.

But I honestly need to be changing my vote. It's Céspedes, pole to pole.


Nah, Cabrera needs a few in his corner. I'm voting Asdrubal!


Don't know if I set the poll for changes.

Zvon
Jul 11 2016 11:58 PM
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OOO, Flores got 2. Well, I will admit he is a force to be reckoned with. And he has been in the middle of big wins. He's been big in big wins!

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 12:09 AM
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I was hoping to make an additional Cabrera card. Cespedes has so many already. But they should reflect what's going on, and he's been going on in a pretty much consistent manner.

Would Mets first half Cy Young be worth a poll?
I figure Thor hands down but I haven't compared the rotations #s for a while now. Noah's the only one who has been dominating recently.

I should find out which Mets pitcher had the best record ever by the break and name the 1st half award after him. Anyone know off the top of their head?

Familia will get a separate award for closer, but maybe there should be a bullpen MVP. I really think Reed deserves something for his first half.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 12 2016 12:13 AM
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The guy who I think is the Mets First Half MVP isn't on the list.



But if it's the MVP of position players only, then I'd go with Cespedes.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 01:29 AM
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The guy who I think is the Mets First Half MVP isn't on the list.


More categories makes for more cards :)

Overall MVP? I might have to agree. And I suppose I should do one of those as well but I know my limit when it comes to jinxes. I've only named overall MVP at the seasons end.

I have this Familia record breaker, but his record is still in progress. In that case I'm afraid to post the card. I know it's silly to think that way but with baseball I do all kinds of weird things due to superstition. I'm not that way with anything else in life. OO, I know what I'll do. Where the final numbers go I'll put STILL IN PROGRESS. WaLA. Jinx free.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 12 2016 12:11 PM
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Yoenis for sure. Agreed that Cabrera's a nice surprise, but Cespedes is doing exactly what they got him to do. And that's a good thing.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 12 2016 01:46 PM
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MVP means the best player, not the player who most exceeded expectations. Among position players Cespedes stands out among all others.

soupcan
Jul 12 2016 01:47 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
Cespedes for sure. I wonder (hope) if Sandy is thinking of any ways of keeping him from opting out of his contract at the end of the year.



I gotta think that all it would take is adding 2 years to the contract at whatever they're paying him per annum now ($27 mil?). And I gotta think they're thinking pretty seriously about it.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 02:12 PM
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soupcan wrote:
TransMonk wrote:
Cespedes for sure. I wonder (hope) if Sandy is thinking of any ways of keeping him from opting out of his contract at the end of the year.



I gotta think that all it would take is adding 2 years to the contract at whatever they're paying him per annum now ($27 mil?). And I gotta think they're thinking pretty seriously about it.


They better be. Attendance for the first half was way up.

Centerfield
Jul 12 2016 02:14 PM
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Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 12 2016 02:19 PM
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You never have anything bad to say about Granderson!

Centerfield
Jul 12 2016 02:39 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
You never have anything bad to say about Granderson!


I'm tough on him because I only want the best for him. One day when he's older he'll understand.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 04:15 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
You never have anything bad to say about Granderson!


I'm tough on him because I only want the best for him. One day when he's older he'll understand.


lol. I'm a big fan of Grandy. He got last years overall MVP. Considering his Aprils and Mays are usually down months for him, he produced throughout, albeit unconventionally for a lead off batter. But he reached, and that's the bottom line. His second half could vault him to the front, but as of now I have him around 3rd on my MVP list.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 12 2016 07:25 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.


Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 07:40 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.


Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.


Yea, that was the big stickler. I knew there was one big common complaint that was justifiable. I tend to forget the bad stuff about the Mets.

Ceetar
Jul 12 2016 07:53 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.


Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.


but his OPS in tie games is 1.134

Zvon
Jul 12 2016 11:24 PM
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Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.


Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.


but his OPS in tie games is 1.134


I love the good.

As far as I'm concerned he's been a great signing.

The ultimate relic card:

Lefty Specialist
Jul 13 2016 12:17 AM
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Well, I wasn't too far off. OPS with RISP- .490

OPS with RISP and 2 out- .330

Them's some bad numbers.

Zvon
Jul 13 2016 12:55 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Well, I wasn't too far off. OPS with RISP- .490

OPS with RISP and 2 out- .330

Them's some bad numbers.



These new statistical yardsticks frighten me.