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IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll

d'Kong76
Aug 16 2016 09:11 AM

RH Noah Syndergaard (9-7, 2.75 ERA) vs. RH Braden Shipley (2-1, 2.96)

Ashie62
Aug 16 2016 10:15 AM
Re: IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll

We saw Shipley once before and struck out 7 in 3 innings.

Ashie62
Aug 16 2016 10:21 AM
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Cespedes back thursday.

Asdrubal Cabrera begins a rehab assignment today.

Any word on Wheeler?

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 16 2016 10:38 AM
Re: IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll

Cespedes will rejoin the team on Thursday, but he can't be activated until Friday (from what I understand).

As for Wheeler, they're starting to say things like, "Sometimes Tommy John surgery doesn't work." That's clearly not a good sign.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 16 2016 11:15 AM
Re: IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Cespedes will rejoin the team on Thursday, but he can't be activated until Friday (from what I understand).

As for Wheeler, they're starting to say things like, "Sometimes Tommy John surgery doesn't work." That's clearly not a good sign.


That he's had several setbacks already is the bad sign. Mets are saying he's seeing Andrews for his own peace of mind. He had his surgery performed by Altchek who has given assurances that it all went well and his arm is structurally sound & stuff.

Anyway his meeting with Andrews is Wednesday.

Ashie62
Aug 16 2016 12:31 PM
Re: IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Cespedes will rejoin the team on Thursday, but he can't be activated until Friday (from what I understand).

As for Wheeler, they're starting to say things like, "Sometimes Tommy John surgery doesn't work." That's clearly not a good sign.


I've heard it said when it works it is Tommy John surgery, when it doesn't it is Steve Trout surgery.

Good luck Zack. So dang young.

Ashie62
Aug 16 2016 02:18 PM
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Long day.

d'Kong76
Aug 16 2016 05:29 PM
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Segura 2B
Bourn CF
Goldschmidt 1B
Lamb 3B
Tomas RF
Castillo C
Haniger LF
Owings SS
Shipley P

MFS62
Aug 16 2016 05:52 PM
Re: IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll

Pitch around Goldschmidt.
Or use the old remedy against a hot hitter (as per Jim Brosnan's book The Long Season), "hit him in the knee, then pick him off first base".

Later

d'Kong76
Aug 16 2016 06:18 PM
Re: IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll


Reyes SS
Granderson LF
Bruce RF
Loney 1B
Johnson 2B
T.J. Rivera 3B
De Aza CF
R. Rivera C
Syndergaard P

Ashie62
Aug 16 2016 07:07 PM
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Bejeezus, what happened to our team. Oye

The only thing missing is Eric Campbell.

Anyway, have at it men.

cooby
Aug 16 2016 07:50 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Cespedes will rejoin the team on Thursday, but he can't be activated until Friday (from what I understand).

As for Wheeler, they're starting to say things like, "Sometimes Tommy John surgery doesn't work." That's clearly not a good sign.


I've heard it said when it works it is Tommy John surgery, when it doesn't it is Steve Trout surgery.

Good luck Zack. So dang young.

That would be awful

Edgy MD
Aug 16 2016 08:49 PM
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Remember, Noah. You don't have to throw nine no-hit innings. Seven is fine.

metirish
Aug 16 2016 08:54 PM
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I wish this Bourne had amnesia and forgot he's playing the Mets

metirish
Aug 16 2016 09:12 PM
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Keith met David Segui up a mountain earlier today , as Gary said what are the odds?

metirish
Aug 16 2016 09:15 PM
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Haniger taking the piss trying to sell a walk, gets strike 3 on a 99mph heater , thus begins his MLB career.

metirish
Aug 16 2016 09:29 PM
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Arizona stealing with ease and Keith is exasperated

Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 16 2016 09:31 PM
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I don't know how many different uniforms the DBacks have, but they all suck. It's like they're trying to use every gimmick all at once.

Edgy MD
Aug 16 2016 09:32 PM
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Gary Cohen, Quoting Tim McCarver: Nothing slows down a game more than speed.

Edgy MD: Well, there’s Bastardo.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 16 2016 09:33 PM
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And the caps they wore last night, with the printing on top of the cap -- awful!

metirish
Aug 16 2016 09:42 PM
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SNY Trivia

Who are the only three pitchers to face Keith 100 or more times?

metirish
Aug 16 2016 09:49 PM
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Rivera 2 for 2.........

metirish
Aug 16 2016 09:53 PM
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Rivera drives the ball to the wall and a great catch from Bourne, Rivera scores from third.

Edgy MD
Aug 16 2016 09:54 PM
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That was the second opportunity this week for De Aza to try to tag two bases.

Instead, zero?

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2016 09:55 PM
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Hey I look at it this way: we had two on with none out and, for a change, didn't get shut-out for the inning!

metirish
Aug 16 2016 09:56 PM
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Thor with a bomb of a HR

Edgy MD
Aug 16 2016 09:57 PM
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A Synderbomb.

That's the stuff, right there.

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2016 09:57 PM
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Finally a NYM pitcher realizes the only way he's going to get to pitch with a lead.

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2016 10:00 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
That was the second opportunity this week for De Aza to try to tag two bases.

Instead, zero?


Yeah, but I'm with Keef there, that's the right play by ADA.
I can't remember when, or even IF, I've ever seen a ML runner tag two bases on a fly out. And tagging there and then having to stop at 3rd if it dropped is by far the bigger sin.

Edgy MD
Aug 16 2016 10:06 PM
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I've never even seen someone try, but it's one of the plays I hope to see before I die.

Meanwhile, the Mets hit for the cycle that inning.

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2016 10:11 PM
Re: IGT 08/16 - Mets @ D'backs - Snake, Rattle and Roll

metirish wrote:
SNY Trivia

Who are the only three pitchers to face Keith 100 or more times?


Steve Carlton, Mike Krukow, Bob Knepper

Chad Ochoseis
Aug 16 2016 10:18 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 16 2016 10:42 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Finally a NYM pitcher realizes the only way he's going to get to pitch with a lead.


Syndergaard this season: 1 KABOOM every 14 at bats. Better than anyone on the team not named Yoenis. Next best is Neil Walker, 1 HR every 18 ABs.

And as I type this, Kelly Johnson moves into third with 1 home run every 15 ABs.

Edgy MD
Aug 16 2016 10:23 PM
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Two outfield errors sure helps, but nice to see De Aza hustling all the way.

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2016 10:53 PM
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Not that I'm saying I predicted this or anything, but I wondered, when they first displayed the lineup, about Rivera at 3rd & Johnson at 2nd rather than the other way around as Rivera put in about twice as much 2B time in the minors as compared to his time logged at 3B

But TJ has looked anything but smooth at 3rd in his short ML time.

Edgy MD
Aug 17 2016 07:16 AM
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Looks like we all bailed on this one about the same time.

metirish
Aug 17 2016 07:21 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
metirish wrote:
SNY Trivia

Who are the only three pitchers to face Keith 100 or more times?


Steve Carlton, Mike Krukow, Bob Knepper



Was this the answer?

Ashie62
Aug 17 2016 07:32 AM
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We won.

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2016 08:29 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Looks like we all bailed on this one about the same time.


I hung with the game (just not the thread) but, man, that game had the brakes slammed on it during the middle innings.
After the DBacks' staff had a couple of fugly back to back innings in the 5th & 6th, Syndergaard threw 35 pitches in the 6th and never even got out of the inning, it took a pitching change and an 8-pitch K from Blevins before that half-inning was put to bed. Later, Robles needed 27 pitches just to get through 4 batters (retiring two of them) in the 7th.

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2016 08:31 AM
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metirish wrote:
metirish wrote:
SNY Trivia

Who are the only three pitchers to face Keith 100 or more times?


Steve Carlton, Mike Krukow, Bob Knepper


Was this the answer?


That was the given answer, yes.
I would have guessed Carlton on my own (I didn't hear the question when it was first asked) but no way I get either of the others.

Edgy MD
Aug 17 2016 08:33 AM
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I would have gone with Krukow and Reuschel. Probably Phil Niekro after that.

On edit: Reuschel was fourth, with 97 confrontations with Keith. But Niekro was down there at 24th. I guess I'm forgetting the Braves were ever in the Western Division. Even Joe Niekro faced him more.

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2016 08:43 AM
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I missed the question when it was first asked (flipping back & forth with the 'lympics) but, when discussing the answer, Keith revealed that, upon his retirement, Elias gave him a complete printout/breakdown of every pitcher he ever faced during his career, so he had even more insider knowledge than usual on this one.
Gary then asked if he carried the copy around with him in case he might happen to run into an old opponent that he could spring his stats on.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 17 2016 08:48 AM
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Cast your vote!

Centerfield
Aug 17 2016 09:16 AM
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So I know this is kind of crazy, but if you squint, doesn't TJ Rivera kinda resemble ARod at the plate?

Obviously not results, but his stance, his demeanor, etc.

No?

Obviously this is Mini-Manny again.

metirish
Aug 17 2016 04:30 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I missed the question when it was first asked (flipping back & forth with the 'lympics) but, when discussing the answer, Keith revealed that, upon his retirement, Elias gave him a complete printout/breakdown of every pitcher he ever faced during his career, so he had even more insider knowledge than usual on this one.
Gary then asked if he carried the copy around with him in case he might happen to run into an old opponent that he could spring his stats on.



Yeah, this was an interesting conversation. I wondered if this was something Elais did for all retiring players at that time?

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2016 04:32 PM
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Not everyone but ... He's Keith Hernandez.




actually I have no idea, first I ever heard of it

metirish
Aug 17 2016 04:34 PM
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Right , I would think payers of a certain stature in the game got this gift.

d'Kong76
Aug 17 2016 05:05 PM
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My guess is Keith asked someone at SNY to get it for him. Content providers
have accounts with Elias to crunch stuff for a fee and he probably got some
intern or stat hound they work with to submit the request for a steak dinner.

(of course, I have no freakin' idea how he got it)

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 15 2016 07:52 AM
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