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Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers Aug 19 2016 09:47 PM

1) One person has been honored, in one way or another, by 4 separate franchises, and another has been honored by three separate franchises Name them, and the franchises. 2) Oddly enough, 13 Retired Numbers, or variations of such an honor such as Broadcaster Mics, names, etc (not including Jackie Robinson's #42) represent players or personnel that for whatever reasons are not enshrined in their respective team's Halls. To be fair and some hints, 8 are due to a franchise's Wall of Honor not representing a team's relocation or non-playing personnel, 1 is a number symbolizing an event as opposed to a specific person, 1 is a number that was officially retired for a brief period (oddly enough the number has since been retired again, but no recognition has been made for its previous honoree) and 2 are broadcast honorees whom have yet to be selected, in one form or another, to their franchise's hall. 3) Finally, an interesting oddity, in my going through the names, I've found two instances where an honoree has the same names, but different persons entirely. One set is a 1940s position player, and a 1960s pitcher. And the other set is a long time infielder, and a long time coach and skipper.

cooby Aug 19 2016 10:25 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Your quizzes are awesome Steve!

Chad Ochoseis Aug 19 2016 11:31 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

1 is a number symbolizing an event as opposed to a specific person The Indians retired the number of consecutive sellouts at Jacobs Field in the '90s. I think that number was 432, or something ridiculous like that. So we'll never see a Cleveland Indian wearing 432 on his back.

MFS62 Aug 20 2016 12:20 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: I've found two instances where an honoree has the same names, but different persons entirely. One set is a 1940s position player, and a 1960s pitcher. And the other set is a long time infielder, and a long time coach and skipper. My guess is Bob Lemon, because Jim Lemon's full name was James Robert Lemon. Are you that sneaky? Later

SteveJRogers Aug 20 2016 12:31 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

MFS62 wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: I've found two instances where an honoree has the same names, but different persons entirely. One set is a 1940s position player, and a 1960s pitcher. And the other set is a long time infielder, and a long time coach and skipper. My guess is Bob Lemon, because Jim Lemon's full name was James Robert Lemon. Are you that sneaky? Later Nope

Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2016 12:59 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Joe Morgan, Reds and Red Sox.

HahnSolo Aug 20 2016 01:49 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Cal Ripken Sr and Jr with the Os

SteveJRogers Aug 20 2016 02:34 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

HahnSolo wrote: Cal Ripken Sr and Jr with the Os Technically they are in the same HOF, ditto Griffeys in the Reds Hall.

SteveJRogers Aug 20 2016 02:40 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Joe Morgan, Reds and Red Sox. Yup, that's one. The other is much more obscure. A Reds 1940s outfielder, and a 1960s Giants pitcher, Mike McCormick.

SteveJRogers Aug 20 2016 02:42 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Chad Ochoseis wrote: 1 is a number symbolizing an event as opposed to a specific person The Indians retired the number of consecutive sellouts at Jacobs Field in the '90s. I think that number was 432, or something ridiculous like that. So we'll never see a Cleveland Indian wearing 432 on his back. 455 actually ;)

d'Kong76 Aug 20 2016 03:01 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

1) Dave Winfield and Rickey Henderson may have been honored by three separate franchises. I can only name the two obvious for both but at a loss for what the third might be. No idea on four, I'd think it would be easier but have no clue at the present time.

HahnSolo Aug 21 2016 02:56 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Nolan Ryan with Angels, Astros, Rangers for one of the 3-time honorees.

HahnSolo Aug 21 2016 02:57 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Torre…Braves, Cardinals, Yankees/

SteveJRogers Aug 21 2016 03:27 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

d'Kong76 wrote: 1) Dave Winfield and Rickey Henderson may have been honored by three separate franchises. I can only name the two obvious for both but at a loss for what the third might be. No idea on four, I'd think it would be easier but have no clue at the present time. Nope to both. Henderson is in no such, as the A's only have retired numbers and none of Rickey's other franchises have honored him in any like manner. Winfield is just in the Padres Hall of Fame.

SteveJRogers Aug 21 2016 03:30 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

HahnSolo wrote: Nolan Ryan with Angels, Astros, Rangers for one of the 3-time honorees. Ryan is the only 3-time honoree, well unless you count the only 4-time honoree as he just got his 4th this summer Torre…Braves, Cardinals, Yankees/ Nope. Just Cardinals and Yankees.

d'Kong76 Aug 21 2016 06:04 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: unless you count the only 4-time honoree as he just got his 4th this summer This was killing me. I found one player with a very long career who was indeed honored this year but don't want to post him name since I, ya know, CHEATED! And it still may not even be the right answer!

MFS62 Aug 21 2016 08:04 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

HahnSolo wrote: Torre…Braves, Cardinals, Yankees/ The list for Torre does not include the Mets - on merit. (actually, lack thereof) Later

HahnSolo Aug 22 2016 02:01 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

I gave this one to my son of all people on a long car ride. His guess and its not a bad one: Gaylord Perry.

d'Kong76 Aug 22 2016 02:04 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Impressive, if right! (took me fifteen minutes on google)

SteveJRogers Aug 22 2016 02:34 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

HahnSolo wrote: I gave this one to my son of all people on a long car ride. His guess and its not a bad one: Gaylord Perry. Nope, just Indians HOF and Giants Wall of Honor.

Frayed Knot Aug 22 2016 02:38 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: I gave this one to my son of all people on a long car ride. His guess and its not a bad one: Gaylord Perry. Nope, just Indians HOF and Giants Wall of Honor. And soon to be a statue in SF for Gaylord.

HahnSolo Aug 23 2016 01:42 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

How about Sweet Lou? Yanks, Reds, Mariners, Rays.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2016 03:18 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Wade Boggs - Yanks, Rays, Bosox.

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 08:49 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

HahnSolo wrote: How about Sweet Lou? Yanks, Reds, Mariners, Rays. Only the Mariners. Ray's do not have a HOF

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 08:49 AM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wade Boggs - Yanks, Rays, Bosox. Only the Red Sox. Rays do not have a HOF.

seawolf17 Aug 23 2016 12:43 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

MFS62 wrote: HahnSolo wrote: Torre…Braves, Cardinals, Yankees/ The list for Torre does not include the Mets - on merit. (actually, lack thereof) Later LOL! This is a really interesting quiz. Well done, Steve. I'm intrigued by the number that was retired/un-retired/re-retired.

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 02:08 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: HahnSolo wrote: How about Sweet Lou? Yanks, Reds, Mariners, Rays. Only the Mariners. Ray's do not have a HOF Oddly enough, its only recently that the Yankees began to honor their "less than border line HOF talent" on a consistent basis with Martinez, Posada, Bernie Williams, Pettitte and O'Neill from the late 1990s championships. Though to be fair, Piniella did "stray" from the Yankees for quite a while, unlike Stottlemyre and Randolph who were mainstay coaches on the Torre era teams. So that might explain away that.

Edgy MD Aug 23 2016 02:28 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Bernie Williams had a heckuva career. He wasn't just a guitar player.

HahnSolo Aug 23 2016 02:47 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Garvey with the Pads as a retired number yet no team Hall guy?

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 02:55 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

HahnSolo wrote: Garvey with the Pads as a retired number yet no team Hall guy? Yup!

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 03:01 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Edgy MD wrote: Bernie Williams had a heckuva career. He wasn't just a guitar player. Well yeah, but he does belong in that Mattingly/Munson/Howard/Maris/Martin group of "lesser" greats in Monument Park. But once the floodgates were opened for the Martinezes and O'Neills, its hard not to be overly cynically about whom the Yankees now install in their version of a HOF. It would be one thing if it was done all along, with names like Hank Bauer, Lou Piniella, Roy White, Frank Crosetti, Tommy Henrich, and even players whom made the actual Hall through the back door like Earle Coombs, Tony Lazzeri and Joe Gordon, etc but prior to the last decade MP had been more or less reserved for the "elite" or "in memoriaum tributes" in franchise history.

Edgy MD Aug 23 2016 03:22 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

No, you're right. I just think he's a little better than those guys.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2016 03:46 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wade Boggs - Yanks, Rays, Bosox. Only the Red Sox. Rays do not have a HOF. The Rays may not have a HOF but they retired Boggs's number. Doesn't that count?

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 04:37 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

Eh, I see a lot of differences in the honors. I.e. Number retirements get bigger non-team specific news coverages, etc

batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2016 04:49 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: Eh, I see a lot of differences in the honors. I.e. Number retirements get bigger non-team specific news coverages, etc Meaning what? That the Rays retiring Boggs's number counts or doesn't count?

d'Kong76 Aug 23 2016 04:57 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: Well yeah, but he does belong in that Mattingly/Munson/Howard/Maris/Martin group of "lesser" greats in Monument Park. How can you, you of all Yankee fans, use the name Munson and "lesser" in the same thought or sentence? Hmpff.

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 04:58 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

The numbers 31 as a Met and 24 as a Mariner were not officially retired until this summer. Despite Griffey Jr in 2013 and Piazza, also in 2013, being inducted into their respective team's Halls in previous years. Either way, doesn't make much difference with Boggs as an answer since the MFYs haven't honored him in either fashion (retired number or MP plaque).

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 04:59 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

d'Kong76 wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: Well yeah, but he does belong in that Mattingly/Munson/Howard/Maris/Martin group of "lesser" greats in Monument Park. How can you, you of all Yankee fans, use the name Munson and "lesser" in the same thought or sentence? Hmpff.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2016 05:04 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

SteveJRogers wrote: The numbers 31 as a Met and 24 as a Mariner were not officially retired until this summer. Despite Griffey Jr in 2013 and Piazza, also in 2013, being inducted into their respective team's Halls in previous years. Either way, doesn't make much difference with Boggs as an answer since the MFYs haven't honored him in either fashion (retired number or MP plaque). Yeah but I wish you'd answer my question so I can figger out how this quiz even works. Do retired numbers count here? Because I think they do according to the original post, but then your response to the Rickey Henderson and Wade Boggs guesses indicates that retired numbers don't count.

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 05:09 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

batmagadanleadoff wrote: The numbers 31 as a Met and 24 as a Mariner were not officially retired until this summer. Despite Griffey Jr in 2013 and Piazza, also in 2013, being inducted into their respective team's Halls in previous years. Either way, doesn't make much difference with Boggs as an answer since the MFYs haven't honored him in either fashion (retired number or MP plaque). Yeah but I wish you'd answer my question so I can figger out how this quiz even works. Do retired numbers count here? Because I think they do according to the original post, but then your response to the Rickey Henderson and Wade Boggs guesses indicates that retired numbers don't count. Yes, I didn't think I needed to spell it out after mentioning Henderson, and the fact that a question revolves around retired number (and others in the area of the numbers such as "SHEA" and Kiner's mic in Citi Field) honorees that are not honored in their franchises' version of a Hall. Hence all of the franchises who do not have one do not count in these questions. Franchises without such honors: Cubs, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Marlins (whom, with the retirement of #24 in Seattle, along with the Nationals are the only teams with no non-Robinson official retired numbers), Pirates, Rockies, Athletics, Rays, Tigers and White Sox.

SteveJRogers Aug 23 2016 09:37 PM Re: Non-Met related Companion Quiz to Other team's HOFs

1) One person has been honored, in one way or another, by 4 separate franchises, and another has been honored by three separate franchises Name them, and the franchises. ANSWERS 4 Frank Robinson; Orioles, Reds, Nationals, Indians 3 Nolan Ryan Rangers, Astros and Angels (HahnSolo) 2) Oddly enough, 14 Retired Numbers, or variations of such an honor such as Broadcaster Mics, names, etc (not including Jackie Robinson's #42) represent players or personnel that for whatever reasons are not enshrined in their respective team's Halls. To be fair and some hints, 8 are due to a franchise's Wall of Honor not representing a team's relocation or non-playing personnel, 1 is a number symbolizing an event as opposed to a specific person, 1 is a number that was officially retired for a brief period (oddly enough the number has since been retired again, but no recognition has been made for its previous honoree) and 2 are broadcast honorees whom have yet to be selected, in one form or another, to their franchise's hall. Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) 11 Carl Hubbell 1944 P 1928-1943 Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) 4 Mel Ott 7/17/1948 OF/Mgr 1926-1947/1942-1948 Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) 3 Bill Terry 1984 1B/Mgr 1923-1936/1932-1941 Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) NY Christy Mathewson 1988 P/Coach 1900-1916/1919-1921 Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) NY John McGraw 1988 INF/Mgr 1902-1907/1902-1932 Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) Radio Mic Lon Simmons Broadcaster 1958-1973, 1976-1978, 1996-2002 Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) Radio Mic Russ Hodges Broadcaster 1949-1970 Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) Radio Mic Jon Miller Broadcaster 1997- Giants (Wall of Honor for SF Players Only) 20 Monte Irvin 6/26/2010 OF 1949-1955 Padres 6 Steve Garvey 4/16/1988 1B 1983-1987 (HahnSolo) Reds Radio Mic Marty Brennaman 2007 Broadcaster 1974- Reds Radio Mic Waite Hoyt 2007 Broadcaster 1944-1965, 1972 Reds 5 Willard Hershberger 1940-1942 C 1938-1940 After being unretired, it would be re-retired due to being the number worn by Johnny Bench Indians 455 Fans 5/29/2001 Jacobs Field Sellout Streak 7/12/1995-4/4/2001 (Chad Ochoseis) 3) Finally, an interesting oddity, in my going through the names, I've found two instances where an honoree has the same names, but different persons entirely. One set is a 1940s position player, and a 1960s pitcher. And the other set is a long time infielder, and a long time coach and skipper.

(Grimm) Joe Morgan Reds/Astros
Joe Morgan Red Sox

Mike McCormick Reds
Mike McCormick Giants