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Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography
Vic Sage Aug 31 2016 02:39 PM Edited 19 time(s), most recently on Sep 01 2016 02:37 PM |
Jerome Silberman (June 11, 1933 – August 28, 2016), aka, Gene Wilder, was one of the great comic talents of his generation, spanning a 50-year career on stage, film, TV and books.
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Zvon Aug 31 2016 04:56 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
Beautifully written.
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RealityChuck Aug 31 2016 05:10 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
While not a great film, Wilder's role in Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex shows just how great an actor he was. Say what you can, but any actor who can show he's falling in love with a sheep -- almost entirely by his expression and body language -- is truly an excellent one.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 31 2016 05:16 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
Yup. That's a tour de force even before he falls in love.
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Vic Sage Aug 31 2016 05:22 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 02 2016 02:05 PM |
Gene Wilder’s films, ranked in order:
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themetfairy Aug 31 2016 05:37 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
I've noticed some sites say The Producers was from 1967, while others list it as 1968. Any idea what's behind the discrepancy?
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Vic Sage Aug 31 2016 05:48 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
THE PRODUCERS had a limited release in November 1967, before opening in NYC in March 1968, and opening wider around the country later that year. So i guess technically its a 1967 film, but the MPAA considered it a 1968 film for Oscar purposes, with Brooks receiving his screenplay Oscar at the 1969 Academy Awards.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 31 2016 05:48 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
That happens with a lot of movies. The "official" year of a film, for Oscar purposes, is based on when the movie opens in Los Angeles. But some movies open outside of L.A. in the previous year. I don't know if that's the case with The Producers, but it could be.
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Frayed Knot Aug 31 2016 06:11 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
I'm in pain, I'm wet, and I'm still hysterical
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themetfairy Aug 31 2016 06:17 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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Gotcha - thanks for the explanation!
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 31 2016 07:11 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
That "first" Waco Kid was Gig Young.
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 31 2016 07:14 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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I didn't know about that L.A. wrinkle in the rule. I didn't know that it mattered where in the US the film opened for Oscar purposes. Now I do.
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Zvon Aug 31 2016 11:31 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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Really. Huh. I was wondering about that. After seeing Wilder as The Waco Kid no one else could fill that role, but it would have been interesting if Gig got the gig. He might have had a career resurgence like Lesley Nielsen.
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Edgy MD Sep 01 2016 12:12 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
At the same time, Sheriff Bart was originally intended to be Richard Pryor. It ended up being Pryor who advocated for Cleavon Little, who was always a ham.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2016 01:14 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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I heard an interview on NPR's All Things Considered with Wilder's nephew on the day that Wilder died. It would seem that both Wilder and his nephew would be offended by your use of the adjective "comic". Apparently he considered himself an actor who did comedy, and not a "comic actor." I don't know that I agree with that. If I'm listing the great comic actors of that generation, I'd certainly include Wilder. (And Walter Matthau too, among others.) But if I was listing the great actors, without the adjective, then you're dealing with a considerably larger field, and Wilder is a lot less likely to stand out.
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Vic Sage Sep 01 2016 02:16 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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yeah, i don't think he ever did a NON-comic role in a feature film. Even his small debut role in BONNIE & CLYDE was essentially a comic performance. So, while i can understand his own view of his career, it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. You could make a list of the great actors of the 1960s-80s, and you'd have to go a long way before you reached Mr. Wilder. And i say that as a huge fan of his work.
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Vic Sage Sep 01 2016 02:18 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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i always heard that, but i didn't know why Pryor didn't get the role. Wasn't he big enough name at that point for the studio to accept in a lead?
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Vic Sage Sep 01 2016 02:32 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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never mind, i looked it up. Here's what Brooks said:
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Vic Sage Sep 01 2016 02:36 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
As for Gig Young, it was reported that he collapsed on the set of BLAZING SADDLES on their first day of shooting, due to alcohol withdrawal, and was fired. Funny that it was Pryor that the studio was concerned about, but they were fine with hiring a notorious, raging alcoholic.
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Frayed Knot Sep 01 2016 02:43 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
IIRC, Pryor also needed to be replaced, by Gregory Hines in this case, in HISTORY OF THE WORLD due to his drug use problems.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 01 2016 03:36 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
Apropos of nothing: Wifey Bucket works with R. Pryor Jr. in her office, they do business incentive stuff.
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batmagadanleadoff Sep 01 2016 04:59 PM Re: Gene Wilder: Selected Filmography |
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If we had to make lists of Hollywood people that we thought were gonna break big but didn't, Cleavon Little might be at or near the top of my list.
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