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IGT - Phils @ Mets - Aug 28 - Game #130

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 10:40 AM

Vince Velasquez vs Robert Gsellman -- 1:10 (only 7 day games left after today)

Velasquez started off his first full season (55 IP w/Houston last year) great, beginning with a 6-inning/3-hit game vs the Mets on April 9 (a 1-0 Philly win) and following that up with a complete game 3-hit/16-K performance vs SDP.
But lately, not so good: 9, 5, & 5 earned runs in his last three games, those 19 runs came in just 16.1 innings on 29 hits and 8 HRs with 5 BBs thrown in, although he did strikeout 23 in the process.

On our side, this is the first of (at least!) three consecutive games with a trainee on the mound.
Not sure why that fact calls for a Cespedes-less game but at least so far there's no word that broken body parts or major surgery is involved, although he was PH'd for late in Saturday's affair.



4 - Cesar Hernandez
8 - Odubel Herrera
5 - Mikael Franco
3 - Tommy Joseph
9 - Aaron Altherr
7 - Jimmy Paredes
2 - AJ Ellis
6 - Freddy Galvis
9 - Vince Velasquez


5 - Jose Reyes
6 - Asdrubal Cabrera
4 - Kelly Johnson
9 - Jay Bruce (or some faint copy of him)
7 - Curtis Granderson
8 - Alejandro De Aza
3 - James Loney
2 - Travis d'Arnaud
1 - Robert Gsellman

Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 11:12 AM
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In Asdrubal Cabrera I trust.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 28 2016 11:14 AM
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Roobs says Cespy strained his quad rounding the bases on his HR. Walker's back also acting up.

Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 11:16 AM
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From Star Ledger notes,

Cespedes' quad is bothering him as is Neil Walker's back.

Probably good to give both the day after night on a hot hot Sunday.

[url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2016/08/mets_phillies_lineups_for_series_finale.html#incart_river_index

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 12:15 PM
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Loney doesn't make that play, there's a good chance the Mets are playing catchup ball most or all of the afternoon.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 12:26 PM
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Bunting is exciting baseball!

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 12:27 PM
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But attrition is bad!

Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 12:29 PM
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Asdrubal got crushed,

Wrist, forearm and maybe knee.

Loney has to be feeling it also.

Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 12:33 PM
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Nice hit by Bruce. Wilmer had little chance passing third.

Bags juiced.

Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 12:35 PM
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Sac fly Grandy.

That be 1-0

Velasquez throwing many many pitches...getting tired..in inning one...

themetfairy
Aug 28 2016 12:49 PM
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WE HAVE A PITCHER WHO CAN BUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 12:49 PM
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So here are the in-game injuries from just the past week.

Tuesday - Niese removed in bottom 1st
Thursday - Lugo after the end of the 5th
Friday - Ruggiano after the 5th
Saturday - Cespedes in the bottom 7th, then Walker at the end of the 8th
Sunday - Cabrera in bottom 1 ... and maybe more to come, who knows!


And let's look at Ruggiano's year while we're at it:
- gets 4 ABs with Texas on opening day and gets sent down
- gets 175 ABs in AAA then is released
- gets signed by the Mets but goes on the DL after 6 ABs
- comes off the DL but then goes back on 14 ABs later for a different injury

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 12:50 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
WE HAVE A PITCHER WHO CAN BUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!


He's 2 for 2

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 12:53 PM
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Papa Gsellman

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 01:01 PM
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Those are some weird numbers. Batted a paltry .173, but a really fat .173 — with 44% of his hits going for extra bases, and had a big fat .127 walk rate also.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 01:01 PM
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Man, thanks, Phillies.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 01:03 PM
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Pete McKanin shaking his head in the dugout right now talking to his SS: Galvis, son. Oh Galvis, son.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 01:05 PM
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There was nobody covering third behind Galvis, so he could have had a much bigger head start.

bmfc1
Aug 28 2016 01:10 PM
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Pete McKanin shaking his head in the dugout right now talking to his SS: Galvis, son. Oh Galvis, son.

Very good!

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 01:25 PM
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Who says d'Arnaud can't field throws on plays at the plate?

Lefty Specialist
Aug 28 2016 01:42 PM
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Boy, Gsellman sure works that gum hard.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 28 2016 01:53 PM
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Would have been nice if we'd traded for the REAL Jay Bruce.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 02:04 PM
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OK, we've got 4 innings (edit: 3-2/3) to beat up on an already beat-up bullpen.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 02:08 PM
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Jerry Koosman is 4th on the all-time NYM CPF ranking project. WE don't under-rate him Gary!

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 02:24 PM
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Blah.

I'd have gone to Familia here.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 28 2016 02:24 PM
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Just can't let this one get away from you, Mets.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 02:27 PM
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This is not an ideal inning.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 28 2016 02:28 PM
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Ohhhhhhhhh, Robles.

Centerfield
Aug 28 2016 02:28 PM
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Well this went to shit fast. Cannot run a lineup out there like that.

If only we had an outfielder tearing it up in AAA.

d'Kong76
Aug 28 2016 02:33 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2016 02:36 PM

Gary reminds us that everyone of importance is also losing. Need to find
a way to eeek this back (after stopping this 5-1 bleeding with one out in the
seventh, please)

bmfc1
Aug 28 2016 02:34 PM
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Robles has been shit lately so of course use him with the bases loaded. Terry is a fucking idiot. Use Reed or anyone else.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 02:39 PM
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The thing is the Phils have played a pretty bad game, but the Mets, suddenly without their big bats ... again ... find themselves again behind the eight ball.

But, hey, Phillies bullpen coming.

d'Kong76
Aug 28 2016 02:44 PM
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Oooops, time to stretch...
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Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 02:44 PM
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What a mess. It looks like an exhibition football game but longer.

We need/needed this one.

THEY CAN'T LOSE TO THE PHILLIES.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 02:47 PM
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Do more bunting. That was fun.

Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 02:48 PM
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The Phillies are really really bad.

metirish
Aug 28 2016 02:50 PM
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First game I am seeing in over a week,come on #Mets

d'Kong76
Aug 28 2016 03:13 PM
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d'Kong76
Aug 28 2016 03:20 PM
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Put the lettuce in the dumpster with the books!

cooby
Aug 28 2016 04:42 PM
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The game I am watching is 1-1. I was expecting a blowout when I read this before I tuned in

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 05:06 PM
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They blew some chances early, but then again the Phils might have blown even more.


I was thinking of proactively pulling Gsellman after six innings even though he was sailing at that point, and probably would have had advocated for it ahead of time if Robles and, to a lesser extent, Reed been their pre-August selves.
BMFC wanted to fire Terry when he did bring in Robles; two days ago CF wanted him fired for NOT bringing him in. Sometimes you just can't win.
Of course it the rules of baseball allowed managers to bring in closers in the 7th inning if that's where the biggest fire occurs then maybe TC would have been able to go to a different choice.

But the bottom line is they totaled one walk today despite a ton of full counts plus a whopping seven hits, all of them singles and most of them in the early innings.
Can't win 'em all but they've put themselves in a position where they have to win most and, going into Miami then Washington with unproven pitchers and Jose Fernandez starting off, this would have been a nice one to have.


Pitt won, SF is winning, Dodgers in a scoreless tie mid-game.
Wash, Miami, & StL lost so the day isn't a total disaster.

bmfc1
Aug 28 2016 05:14 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I was thinking of proactively pulling Gsellman after six innings even though he was sailing at that point....

If d'Arnaud gets on, Cespedes pinch-hits and Gsellman never starts the 7th.

d'Kong76
Aug 28 2016 05:15 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
But the bottom line is they totaled one walk today despite a ton of full counts

It was like a dozen full counts, the booth mentioned that late... a dozen?
That struck me as odd at the time but didn't post.

cooby
Aug 28 2016 06:04 PM
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I've been watching a replay haven't I? Damn Phillies making me look like an idiot in front of my friends

Ashie62
Aug 28 2016 06:20 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
I was thinking of proactively pulling Gsellman after six innings even though he was sailing at that point....

If d'Arnaud gets on, Cespedes pinch-hits and Gsellman never starts the 7th.


I was thinking the exact same thing.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2016 06:28 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
I was thinking of proactively pulling Gsellman after six innings even though he was sailing at that point....

If d'Arnaud gets on, Cespedes pinch-hits and Gsellman never starts the 7th.


Yup. But even after d'Arnaud ended the inning I was thisclose to calling for him to not start the 7th anyway - and had the bench not been short today and Robles not been lost at sea lately I would have.
I don't normally advocate for pulling a guy pitching well in favor of one who may or may not have his good stuff that day but in this case -- between being Gs's first ML start, pitch count getting up there, third time through the lineup, etc. -- I thought giving him the 7th was tempting fate.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2016 08:06 PM
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And if not, well, you might be tempted to immediately pull him after the first hit, or the second, rather than the third.

Granderson was chasing a lot of balls out there in the seventh inning.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 29 2016 08:08 AM
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Cast your vote!

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 15 2016 08:01 AM
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