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Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the horse?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 29 2016 06:15 PM

Since the Mets have a 98 per cent chance of needing a postseason roster by next Wednesday, it's not too soon to think about how that roster will be comprised. We can be sure the Mets are thinking about it, so we can too. I figure the Mets have to choose 25 of these [crossout]30[/crossout] 31 players. (I'm not sure if Salas is eligible. Did they get him before the cutoff? If he is eligible, I'd be sure to include him.) I'm assuming that Flores won't be healthy enough to play, but maybe if the Mets make it into future rounds he can return, like Juan Uribe did for the World Series last year. Guys I see as being on the bubble: Edgin, Goeddel, Smoker, Verrett, Campbell, De Aza, Nimmo, Reynolds. Blevins Colon Edgin Familia Goeddel Gsellman Henderson Lugo Reed Robles Salas Smoker Syndergaard Verrett Bruce Cabrera Campbell Cespedes Conforto d'Arnaud De Aza Duda Granderson Johnson Lagares Loney Nimmo Reyes Reynolds R. Rivera T.J. Rivera EDITED TO ADD JUAN LAGARES

seawolf17 Sep 29 2016 06:23 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

If I had to guess... it'd be something like this: SP: Colon, Thor, Lugo, Gsellman RHP: Salas, Verrett, Reed, Henderson, Robles, Familia LHP: Blevins, Smoker lineup: Reyes/Cabrera/TJRivera/Duda, Bruce/Cespedes/Granderson, d'Arnaud bench: Johnson, De Aza, Loney, Conforto, RRivera That cuts Edgin/Goeddel in the pen, and Campbell/Nimmo/Reynolds.

Ceetar Sep 29 2016 06:30 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

any love for Plawecki over Rene?

Edgy MD Sep 29 2016 06:30 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

I've got it thusly Starting Pitchers [list]Almost Certainly In [list]Bartolo Colon Robert Gsellman Seth Lugo Noah Syndergaard[/list:u][/list:u] [list]Bubble [list]Sean Gilmartin Gabriel Ynoa Logan Verrett (0 or 1 of these guys can expect to make it)[/list:u][/list:u] [list]=#FF0000]Almost Certainly Out [list]Jacob deGrom Rafael Montero[/list:u][/list:u] Relief Pitchers [list]Almost Certainly In [list]Jerry Blevins Jeurys Familia Erik Goeddel Addison Reed Hansel Robles[/list:u][/list:u] [list]Bubble [list]Josh Edgin Jim Henderson Fernando Salas Josh Smoker (2 or 3 of these guys can expect to make it)[/list:u][/list:u] [list]=#FF0000]Almost Certainly Out [list]Nodody[/list:u][/list:u] Catchers [list]Almost Certainly In [list]Travis d'Arnaud René Rivera[/list:u][/list:u] [list]Bubble [list]Kevin Plawecki[/list:u][/list:u] [list]=#FF0000]Almost Certainly Out [list]Nobody[/list:u][/list:u] Infielders [list]Almost Certainly In [list]Asdrubal Cabrera Kelly Johnson José Reyes T.J. Rivera[/list:u][/list:u] [list]Bubble [list]Lucas Duda Wilmer Flores James Loney Matt Reynolds (probably 2 of these guys can expect to make it, but possibly 3)[/list:u][/list:u] [list]=#FF0000]Almost Certainly Out [list]Eric Campbell Gavin Cecchini[/list:u][/list:u] Outfielders [list]Almost Certainly In [list]Yoenis Cespedes Curtis Granderson Jay Bruce[/list:u][/list:u] [list]Bubble [list]Michael Conforto Alejandro De Aza Juan Lagares (probably 2 of these guys can expect to make it, but possibly 3)[/list:u][/list:u] [list]=#FF0000]Almost Certainly Out [list]Ty Kelly Brandon Nimmo[/list:u][/list:u] 18 pretty solid locks, 15 bubblers, and 6 lockouts. Although Vic suggests that Soup may be in the mix too. That's some hard choosin'!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 29 2016 06:33 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 29 2016 06:38 PM

Ceetar wrote: any love for Plawecki over Rene? Not from me, not at this time. I put Flores on my roster but if he can't go I guess you choose between Loney and Soupy. It might be cool if Zimmo or Conforto could grab a first baseman's glove, but again, too lefty. Blevins Colon [crossout]Edgin[/crossout] Familia [crossout]Goeddel[/crossout] Gsellman Henderson Lugo Reed Robles Salas Smoker Syndergaard [crossout]Verrett[/crossout] Bruce Cabrera [crossout]Campbell[/crossout] Cespedes Conforto d'Arnaud De Aza Duda Granderson Flores Johnson [crossout]Loney[/crossout] [crossout]Nimmo[/crossout] Reyes Reynolds R. Rivera T.J. Rivera

bmfc1 Sep 29 2016 06:36 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

The Wild Card roster can be different from the NLDS roster. Using seawolf17's projection, Lagares and Nimmo can make the WC roster because you don't need to include the other starting pitchers (e.g., they can put Gsellman and Lugo in the bullpen instead of Verrett and Robles). I think that Terry loves Juan so I think he'll be on every roster, somehow.

Centerfield Sep 29 2016 06:44 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

OMG WILL YOU GUYS STOP.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 29 2016 06:54 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Terry uses Rivera and he doesn't use Plawecki, which pretty much tells me that Rivera has the advantage. Do we know for sure whether or not Salas is eligible? And deGrom is definitely out. He had surgery and recovery time is three months.

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2016 06:56 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Let's go Reds/Rockies is about all I can muster on the subject at the present time.

bmfc1 Sep 29 2016 06:57 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Salas joined the organization before September 1 so take solace, we have Salas. For comparison purposes, the Mets World Series roster was 11 pitchers, 14 hitters: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mets- ... -uribe-in/

Edgy MD Sep 29 2016 07:11 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Terry uses Rivera and he doesn't use Plawecki, which pretty much tells me that Rivera has the advantage. Do we know for sure whether or not Salas is eligible? And deGrom is definitely out. He had surgery and recovery time is three months. No doubt, but I treated him as a live player since they haven't bothered putting him on the disabled list. I didn't create a "Certainly Out" category, but he would be it.

Frayed Knot Sep 29 2016 07:18 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Ceetar wrote: any love for Plawecki over Rene? Based on 125 plate appearances since July 1st vs 4 PA since July 1st, and throws well vs throws like wounded chicken? Ummmmmm, I going to go with 'No' on this one.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 29 2016 07:31 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Pitchers 1) Blevins 2) Colon 3) Familia 4) Thor 5) Lugo 6) Gsellman 7) Reed 8) Robles 9) Salas 10) Smoker 25) Verrett Ourfielders 11) Bruce 12) Cespedes 13) Granderson 22) De Azaa 24) Nimmo Catchers 14) d'Arnoud 15) Rene Rivera IF 16) Reyes 17) Cabrera 18) Johnson 19) TJ Riverea 20) Duda 21) Loney Off Campbell Reynolds Edgin Goeddel Henderson Verrett Montero Gilmartin This was tougher than I thought. I went with Verrett over Edgin because Verrrett can be a long man in case of a disaster, but I'm not convinced, either. If Campbell is on the postseason roster to be anything more than Thor's food tester, I'm worried.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2016 07:35 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Campbell is Campbell, but the paucity of righty bats is a concern.

bmfc1 Sep 29 2016 07:36 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

The list at the top of the thread doesn't have Lagares.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 29 2016 07:43 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Oops, my bad. He's been added.

Vic Sage Sep 29 2016 08:00 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2016 06:12 PM

Assuming no Flores and an 11/14 ratio of pitchers/hitters: regular line-up (8): 3b - Reyes # SS - Cabrera # LF - Cespedes CF - Granderson* RF - Bruce* 2b - TJRivera 1b - Duda* C - d'Arnaud/Rivera Bench (6): C- Rivera/d'Arnaud LHed OF/PH - deAza* RHed OF/PH - Lagares LHed IF/PH -Johnson* RHed IF/PH - Campbell (or Reynolds, Kelly#, Cecchini) [Flores - DL] LHed PH - Conforto* (or Loney*, Nimmo*) SP (4): SP1 - Syndergaard SP2 - Colon SP3 - Gsellman SP4 - Lugo RP (7): CL - Familia SUp - Reed SUp - Salas RH - Robles (or Henderson, Goeddel) LH1 - Blevins* LH2 -Smoker* (or Edgin*, Gilmartin*) SP5/Lg - Verrett (or Ynoa, Gilmartin*, Montero)

Vic Sage Sep 29 2016 08:23 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Edgy MD wrote: Campbell is Campbell, but the paucity of righty bats is a concern. Particularly with Lagares' injury still not allowing him to swing well, with Flores likely not available, and with only 1 catcher on the bench. Terry is not going to want to go into the post-season without a bat that can face a lefty late in the game. If it's not Campbell, it's Reynolds.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2016 08:59 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

[youtube:336eb50w]vPnLXjx5qOg[/youtube:336eb50w] Dedicated to versatile, switch-hitting, always hustling Ty Kelly.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2016 09:06 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Centerfield wrote: OMG WILL YOU GUYS STOP. d'Kong76 wrote: Let's go Reds/Rockies is about all I can muster on the subject at the present time. Agreed, mostly...though, damn, I like Ty Kelly.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2016 09:27 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

I mostly like Ty Kelly because he always looks like he's this close to crying.

Fman99 Sep 30 2016 01:06 AM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

d'Kong76 wrote: Let's go Reds/Rockies is about all I can muster on the subject at the present time. Yep. I don't know how many chickens we got and I ain't attemptin to know.

Zvon Sep 30 2016 01:21 AM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: If Campbell is on the postseason roster to be anything more than Thor's food tester, I'm worried. Haa! No Conforto?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 30 2016 03:17 AM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

How the h-e-hockey-sticks are you guys putting Loney on your rosters over Conforto? I mean... guys. GUYS. From a different, crazier precinct... does anyone else think it possibly crazy-like-a-fox to play the hell out of Cecchini this weekend, then sneak him into the mix over, say, a 12th reliever? He's a righty, with pretty damn good contact skills. At the very least, he's Loney with a MI glove and pinch runability... And at most, he's Maybe surprise bench line-drive 2015 Conforto.

G-Fafif Sep 30 2016 11:01 AM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Edgy MD wrote: I mostly like Ty Kelly because he always looks like he's this close to crying. Because he cares, dammit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2016 04:39 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: How the h-e-hockey-sticks are you guys putting Loney on your rosters over Conforto? I mean... guys. GUYS. From a different, crazier precinct... does anyone else think it possibly crazy-like-a-fox to play the hell out of Cecchini this weekend, then sneak him into the mix over, say, a 12th reliever? He's a righty, with pretty damn good contact skills. At the very least, he's Loney with a MI glove and pinch runability... And at most, he's Maybe surprise bench line-drive 2015 Conforto. Not crazy at all. Plus you never know if Cabrera's knees blow up.

Vic Sage Sep 30 2016 06:33 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Assuming you don't want to start Duda against a tough LHP, or want to PH for him late in a game (neither of which is far-fetched), who is your RHed 1bman? Or if Duda re-injures himself (also a distinct possibility), and you need a 1bman, assuming we haven't included Loney on the roster, then who's the 1bman? I guess in that case its K.Johnson, but he's more useful as a LHed bat off the bench, or platooning with Rivera at 2b. With Flores down, the only RHed hitter we have with any 1b experience is Campbell. So the more i look at it, the more i see Collins wanting him on the post-season roster. I Like Kelly alright, but he's like a less productive Rivera, and i don't think he has any experience at 1b. Cecchini hasn't shown anything yet, and his defense isn't ready for MLB (much less the post-season), so he'd be purely a PHer off the bench. I don't think the Mets will carry less than 11 pitchers, so i don't see how they'd have room for either Kelly or Cecchini (or Reynolds, really). It's not like I'm advocating for Campbell, but Flores' injury has left a hole in on our bench, and Campbell is currently the only guy on the 40-man with the experience and versatility to even attempt to fill that particular niche.

Edgy MD Sep 30 2016 06:47 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

I'm not sure the Mets have given up on Flores, but it's certainly a real possiblity. T.J. has three innings in the bigs at first in recent weeks, and 40 games in the minors over there. But I imagine it's the question they have to deal with as soon as they first deal with Duda-vs.-Loney. I wonder. If Duda's ready to play, I kind of trust him more with lefties than Loney. Kelly and Rivera can both fit on the roster if they carry 11 pitchers, and that would allow an option of Kelly at second and T.J. at first against a lefty. But Kelly ain't playin' much so I'm not sure how seriously Terry is considering him.

G-Fafif Sep 30 2016 09:27 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

In his noncontiguous stay that dates to August 6, Ty is .333/.463/.433. Forty-one plate appearances, so a limited sample size, for sure, but as a potential 25th man, he strikes me as modestly potent lightning in a bottle. As a 27th man, he's gold.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2016 01:32 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Because Wednesday's game only requires a one-day roster, according to the Daily News this morning the plan is to only carry one extra starter (in addition to Syndergaard) in case they need a long man. Indications are that that will be Gsellman. This means that Lugo and Colon won't be on Wednesday's roster, allowing the Mets two extra position players. If the Mets advance to the NLDS, Colon would pitch Game 1, and Syndergaard would pitch Game 3. Game 2 would go to Lugo or Gsellman.

Centerfield Oct 03 2016 01:56 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

I'm not sure I agree with this. Wednesday should be all hands on deck. I think the Mets should carry the best pitchers on the team, whether they are "starters" or "relievers". Lugo has experience pitching out of the pen right? In fact, I think they had given up on him as a starter while in Vegas. I think I'd feel just as good about Lugo coming in to get an out in the late innings as I would anyone not named Reed or Familia. I haven't paid enough attention to this thread to see who I would leave out, but I think I'd be inclined to go to Lugo to pitch the seventh than even Salas.

Ceetar Oct 03 2016 02:19 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Centerfield wrote: I'm not sure I agree with this. Wednesday should be all hands on deck. I think the Mets should carry the best pitchers on the team, whether they are "starters" or "relievers". Lugo has experience pitching out of the pen right? In fact, I think they had given up on him as a starter while in Vegas. I think I'd feel just as good about Lugo coming in to get an out in the late innings as I would anyone not named Reed or Familia. I haven't paid enough attention to this thread to see who I would leave out, but I think I'd be inclined to go to Lugo to pitch the seventh than even Salas. Assume Syndergaard goes at least 6 (because we probably have other problems then) I probably go right to Reed and Familia. Honestly I probably go Familia first, because Reed is probably the better pitcher and is more suited to getting out of a situation with runners on than vice versa (Familia walks more and strikes out fewer, which relies on the Mets iffy infield defense more)

Gwreck Oct 03 2016 02:21 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Centerfield wrote: I'm not sure I agree with this. Wednesday should be all hands on deck. I think the Mets should carry the best pitchers on the team, whether they are "starters" or "relievers". You can't totally sacrifice everything. If they win, they have games to play on Friday and Saturday. You have to hold back starting pitchers for those games, no?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2016 02:24 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

We need some righthanded hitters to materialize Wednesday, that's what we need. Would you do something whacky and play TJ or Plawecki at first base?

Centerfield Oct 03 2016 02:27 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Gwreck wrote: Centerfield wrote: I'm not sure I agree with this. Wednesday should be all hands on deck. I think the Mets should carry the best pitchers on the team, whether they are "starters" or "relievers". You can't totally sacrifice everything. If they win, they have games to play on Friday and Saturday. You have to hold back starting pitchers for those games, no? In my book, you do everything to get there first, then sort it out. You have Colon for game 1 either way. Game 2, you sort it out if you have to. Hell, it might even rain. I'm just saying if it goes extras tonight, or if it's like the last Bumgarner game where both starters struggle, it would be a shame to have one of our best pitchers unavailable.

Gwreck Oct 03 2016 02:32 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

No. You play Duda. You don't have to love his numbers against lefties but you don't play players who just can't hit at all (Campbell, Plawecki, etc -- and are even worse) simply because they bat right-handed.

Gwreck Oct 03 2016 02:35 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Centerfield wrote: In my book, you do everything to get there first, then sort it out. You have Colon for game 1 either way. Game 2, you sort it out if you have to. Hell, it might even rain. I'm confused. You'd even use Colon on Wednesday?

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2016 02:36 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We need some righthanded hitters to materialize Wednesday, that's what we need. aka: we need Cespedes to be Cespedes and he hasn't been very Cespedespian lately. Would you do something whacky and play TJ or Plawecki at first base? Problem with TJ there is then you won't have a RH bat to play 2nd - unless Wilmer is back and then he plays 1st anyway and the problem with Plawecki is that he hasn't proven he can hit either, and has barely played in over a month (2 for 8 since recall). Yeah he was 300/348/484 in Vegas (200 AB) but that's Vegas and he's still 211/287/285 at this level (365 AB)

TransMonk Oct 03 2016 03:02 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

What I find to be amazing is that, as far as I can tell, only 10 players from the 2015 World Series roster are locks to be on a 2016 Mets post-season roster: Bartolo Colon Jeurys Familia Addison Reed Hansel Robles Noah Syndergaard Travis d'Arnaud Lucas Duda Kelly Johnson Yoenis Cespedes Curtis Granderson There are 5 guys from the 2015 World Series roster on the bubble: Sean Gilmartin Wilmer Flores Michael Conforto Juan Lagares Kevin Plawecki There are 10 players from the 2015 World Series roster that will definitely NOT play for the Mets in the 2016 postseason: Tyler Clippard Jacob deGrom Matt Harvey Steven Matz Jonathon Niese Daniel Murphy Juan Uribe David Wright Michael Cuddyer Kirk Nieuwenhuis

Edgy MD Oct 03 2016 03:27 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Frayed Knot wrote: We need some righthanded hitters to materialize Wednesday, that's what we need. aka: we need Cespedes to be Cespedes and he hasn't been very Cespedespian lately. Would you do something whacky and play TJ or Plawecki at first base? Problem with TJ there is then you won't have a RH bat to play 2nd - unless Wilmer is back and then he plays 1st anyway and the problem with Plawecki is that he hasn't proven he can hit either, and has barely played in over a month (2 for 8 since recall). Yeah he was 300/348/484 in Vegas (200 AB) but that's Vegas and he's still 211/287/285 at this level (365 AB) Really wacky, but if they're going to have two lefthanded outfielders anyhow — presumably Bruce and Granderson — move Bruce to first and play Laggy in Center. The other option is Kelly at second and Rivera at first.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2016 03:32 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Ty Kelly? Or Kelly Johnson? This year Kelly Johnson is .245/.273/.434 against lefties and /247/.313/.382 against righties.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2016 04:02 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Ty Kelly. Kelly Johnson is defensible too, of course. But looking at how our batter does against lefties is only half the game. There's also the matter of how Bumgarner does against lefthanded batters. And he disintegrates them.

Fman99 Oct 03 2016 04:35 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

I don't really understand why MLB lets teams set a special one day wild card roster to begin with. They should be forced to set a LDS roster and then use that. It's kind of a farce this way.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2016 05:02 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

I agree. They're treating it as a separate "series", which is logical, but a one-game roster really doesn't make sense. The Wild Card roster should carry over into the Division Series unless there's an injury (or a recovery from an injury).

Edgy MD Oct 03 2016 05:31 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

So, have managers in the past dropped three starters from their Wild Card game roster in order to carry extra bats or LOOGys? Or is there some sort of honor system that leads them to carry at least four starting pitchers? Because if anybody is ever going to be the first to flout that honor system convention, I suspect it won't be Terry.

Gwreck Oct 03 2016 05:37 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Edgy MD wrote: Because if anybody is ever going to be the first to flout that honor system convention, I suspect it won't be Terry. Yabbut, Sandy makes the decision on the roster, I would think.

Edgy MD Oct 04 2016 04:27 AM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

According to John Ricco, most Wild Card teams go with a nine or ten-man pitching staff, and 15 or 16 hitters. I imagine he wouldn't make that observation unless they were going in the same direction. I guess a nine-man staff would be (1) Syndergaard, (2) Colon, (3) Familia, (4) Reed, (5) Salas, (6) Blevins, (7) Robles, (8) Smoker, and (9) Goeddel. The potential 10th would be Henderson. Fifteen hitters seems like such a luxury these days, but it'd seemingly allow room for righthanded bats like Lagares and Campbell, and perhaps a switchie in the person of Ty Kelly.

Vic Sage Oct 04 2016 02:00 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

WC roster? [u:15hegij2]regular line-up (9):[/u:15hegij2] 3b - Reyes # SS - Cabrera # LF - Cespedes CF - Granderson* RF - Bruce* 2b - TJRivera 1b - Duda* C - R.Rivera P - Syndegaard [u:15hegij2]Bench (7):[/u:15hegij2] C- d'Arnaud LHed OF/PH - deAza* RHed OF/PH - Lagares LHed IF/PH -Johnson* RHed IF/PH -Campbell LHed PH - Conforto* + Kelly# [u:15hegij2]RP (9):[/u:15hegij2] CL - Familia SUp - Reed SUp - Salas RH - Robles LH1 - Blevins* LH2 -Smoker* Long - Lugo + Henderson +Goeddel [u:15hegij2]optimal line-up v Baumgarner?:[/u:15hegij2] 3b - Reyes # CF - Lagares SS - Cabrera # LF - Cespedes RF - Bruce* 2b - TJRivera 1b - Duda*l C - RRivera P - Syndegaard

Edgy MD Oct 04 2016 06:41 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Terry has tipped his hand a little. [list][*]He's carrying nine pitchers. I'm sticking with (1) Syndergaard, (2) Colon, (3) Familia, (4) Reed, (5) Salas, (6) Blevins, (7) Robles, (8) Smoker, and (9) Goeddel or Henderson. [/*:m] [*]T.J. will be in the lineup ... somewhere. [/*:m] [*]He's mum on the Who's on First? question. Why create a controversy 30 hours before game time?[/*:m][/list:u]

Vic Sage Oct 04 2016 07:45 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

isn't Colon going to start game 1 of an NLCS, if they get that far? I'd think they'd prefer to have him fresh for that game, rather than coming in the pen. Lugo won't be used for quite a while and has relief experience. I think, if they're going to go with 1 starter in the pen, it'll be Lugo over Colon.. or am i missing something? wouldn't be the first time.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 04 2016 07:58 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Vic Sage wrote: isn't Colon going to start game 1 of an NLCS, if they get that far? I'd think they'd prefer to have him fresh for that game, rather than coming in the pen. Lugo won't be used for quite a while and has relief experience. I think, if they're going to go with 1 starter in the pen, it'll be Lugo over Colon.. or am i missing something? wouldn't be the first time. My understanding was that it would be Gsellman in the pen instead of Colon. If not Gsellman, I would think Lugo. But it's possible that they'd go with the more experienced Colon (he'd only be used in an emergency anyway) and if they did use him, and they won, Gsellman or Lugo would pitch Game 1 of the NLDS and, I suppose, Colon could pitch Game 2.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 04 2016 08:00 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

I'm wondering if one of the "extra" position players will be a third catcher, meaning Plawecki. When does the roster get announced? I seem to think it's tomorrow at noon. Is that right?

Edgy MD Oct 04 2016 08:02 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

Well, if I'm in the 12th inning of a win-or-go-home game, and I've burned all my bullpenners, and I need a starter to carry me through the marathon until somebody scores, he's the best guy (to my thinking, anyhow). If that desperate and unlikely but potentially real situation doesn't come to pass, great, and he starts Game One. If it does happen, I want him available, and will figure out Game One of the Division Series when it comes.

Vic Sage Oct 05 2016 06:29 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

fair enough

Edgy MD Oct 05 2016 10:50 PM Re: Postseason Roster: So what if the cart is before the hor

So, they indeed went for both, and go into the game with two reserve starters. Fine. But apart from Kelly over Duda, the call that gets me is Edgin over Smoker. This seems contrary to the way Terry had been using them down the stretch, giving Smokestack higher-leverage situations and seemingly having more confidence in him against righties. If Edgin is going to get in there, it's going to be merely as a LOOGy. But I guess in a one-game "series," you look to get the highest yield out of your specialists.