Oct 15 2016 08:55 PM
Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary
Oh yeah. I bet I could still name just about that entire roster off the top of my head in less than three or four minutes.
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1971 Pirates Documentary
| G-Fafif Oct 15 2016 06:01 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 15 2016 06:09 PM |
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"Forever Brothers," a documentary about the '71 Pirates, airs tonight after NLCS Game One on FS1 and tomorrow at 5 PM, same channel. I know this topic hits a non-Mets sweet spot for at least one of you and figure it might be of demographic (and baseball) interest to others.
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| MFS62 Oct 15 2016 06:08 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 15 2016 06:11 PM |
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I did an historic KTE on the 1960 WS champion Bucs on the 50th Anniversary of that team, but don't remember any thread about the '71 team here.
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| G-Fafif Oct 15 2016 06:10 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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Batmags a big fan of that team.
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| batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2016 08:55 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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Oh yeah. I bet I could still name just about that entire roster off the top of my head in less than three or four minutes.
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| batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2016 09:09 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 13 2016 05:43 AM |
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I never got around to using this card in those Mets opponents card threads I hardly make anymore. [fimg=644]https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/574/30345960335_3aee60ea4b_b.jpg[/fimg]
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| batmagadanleadoff Oct 16 2016 05:52 AM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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So when was the first time, if ever, that the Mets trotted out an all black/latino starting nine?
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| batmagadanleadoff Oct 16 2016 06:07 AM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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The first black/latino catcher to start a game for the Mets, post 9/1/71, was Luis Rosado on 9/28/77. That was Rosado's only start as a Mets catcher. Craig Swan was the starting pitcher that day, so that game can't be it. After that, Alex Trevino caught many games for the Mets between '78 & '81. So anyone interested in solving this riddle may want to start there. That's it for the 70's: Trevino and Rosado. Junior Ortiz was the only other black/latino catcher to start games for the Mets in the 1980's. Black/latino Mets catchers in the 1990's: Orlando Mercado Alex Trevino Alberto Castillo
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| Zvon Oct 16 2016 05:18 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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This special was surprisingly excellent with really classic footage for the most part. And very candid conversation. Worth watching.
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| batmagadanleadoff Oct 18 2016 04:43 AM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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But when the narrative got to the 1970 playoffs (that's what playoffs were called back then --- playoffs) where the Reds beat the Pirates to take the NL pennant, the footage was of Joe Morgan batting against Pittsburgh. Morgan was an Astro in 1970, traded to Cincy during the off-season in between the '71 and '72 seasons. The same off-season that yielded the Ryan for Fregosi trade.
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| Zvon Oct 18 2016 04:32 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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Good catch.
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| cooby Oct 18 2016 07:46 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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This is something my husband would love
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| G-Fafif Oct 22 2016 03:13 AM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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Morgan's insertion from two years later was a little distracting, and you wish there had been more footage than postseason and a handful of games otherwise, but I thought the whole thing was well done, telling the story it wanted to tell. Though it had nothing to do with the theme, I thought it an exclusion to not mention that Game Four of the World Series was the first one at night, a huge deal at the time and a harbinger of what was to come. "A prime time audience was about to see what Pittsburgh had known all along..." or something like that.
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| batmagadanleadoff Oct 22 2016 07:22 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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Sadly, the team's biggest stars that season --- Willie Stargell, Roberto Clemente and Dock Ellis --- are all dead.
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| batmagadanleadoff Oct 22 2016 07:38 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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Being that footage of regular season games was rarely preserved back then, I was surpriseed to see so much footage of the actual game where the Pirates started an all black/latino nine. There was even pre-game or batting practice footage of that game. But after thinking about it, I figured that whoever was in charge of deciding whether or not to save game film recognized the historical significance of that game, and decided to save footage, just like Pirates footage from the following season, albeit limited, exists of Clemente's 3,000th hit.
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| G-Fafif Oct 23 2016 09:33 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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A lot of Opening Day 1971 footage seemed to get repurposed. That was the Phillies at Three Rivers, so it conveniently fit the parameters of the historic game five months later.
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| G-Fafif Oct 29 2016 05:05 PM Re: 1971 Pirates Documentary |
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Just watched another recent MLB production, "Making Mr. October," about Reggie Jackson. Very good despite the MFY connection, but the mismatched footage does become an issue when narrator Ice Cube is talking about young Reggie becoming a star in the late '60s and there he is in the 1973 and '74 World Series in a totally different uniform. No doubt there's only so much film or tape from those days, but the audience for this sort of thing can tell.
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