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Mets up for arbitration

Vic Sage Oct 25 2016 07:13 PM

The Mets have 12 guys eligible for salary arbitration this year. Here's the list (2016 salary/expected 2017 salary per MLB Trade Rumors) -- these guys will certainly be tendered: RHP Addison Reed: $5.2M / $11.1M RHP Jeurys Familia: $4.1M / $8.8M RHP Matt Harvey: $4.3M / $5.2M RHP Jacob deGrom: $600K / $4.5M RHP Zack Wheeler: $546K / $1M these guys will probably be tendered: 1B Lucas Duda: $4.2M / $6.7M IF Wilmer Flores: $520K / $1.9M C Travis d’Arnaud: $540K / $1.7M LHP Josh Edgin: $500K / $800K these guys probably won't be tendered: C Rene Rivera: $443K / $2.2M OF Justin Ruggiano: $180K / $1.5M RHP Jim Henderson: $507K / $1.4M

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2016 07:41 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

I'm off the Edgin Bandwagon myself. Not that he matters a whole lot either way, just seems like one of those guys who's destined to be a lefthanded journeyman, beginning his journey.

Ceetar Oct 25 2016 07:49 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm off the Edgin Bandwagon myself. Not that he matters a whole lot either way, just seems like one of those guys who's destined to be a lefthanded journeyman, beginning his journey. I'm not necessarily on it, but his raise is basically nothing. Unless the Mets make a ton of moves and need the roster space, I doubt he's non-tendered.

Edgy MD Oct 25 2016 08:05 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Yeah, there's something to be said for the fact that they carried him through his hurting year, so they might as well carry him through a more healthy one. But it's a roster spot, and he's out of options. So I'm of two minds.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 25 2016 08:05 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

It may be more about the roster space. They may want to protect some prospects from the Rule 5, and a guy like Edgin might be a casualty of that.

Centerfield Oct 25 2016 08:28 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Hi. I just want to say that if anyone wants to throw Josh Edgin's $300k raise (basically nothing) my way, I'd be happy to take it on. Oh to have been a shitty middle reliever.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 25 2016 08:29 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

With $300,000, we could all go to Peru next summer!

Frayed Knot Oct 25 2016 08:51 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

these guys will probably be tendered: 1B Lucas Duda: $4.2M / $6.7M IF Wilmer Flores: $520K / $1.9M C Travis d’Arnaud: $540K / $1.7M LHP Josh Edgin: $500K / $800K I'd call Lucas a probably but I'd be pretty darn surprised if either of Flores or d'Arnaud are allowed to walk. Edgin is a probably not although, as mentioned, it's essentially minimum wage+ so maybe so, and even then you could probably bargain him down to $742,273.50 plus a reserved parking space at Port St Lucie.

seawolf17 Oct 26 2016 01:15 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

these guys will probably be tendered: 1B Lucas Duda: $4.2M / $6.7M IF Wilmer Flores: $520K / $1.9M C Travis d’Arnaud: $540K / $1.7M LHP Josh Edgin: $500K / $800K I'd call Lucas a probably but I'd be pretty darn surprised if either of Flores or d'Arnaud are allowed to walk. Edgin is a probably not although, as mentioned, it's essentially minimum wage+ so maybe so, and even then you could probably bargain him down to $742,273.50 plus a reserved parking space at Port St Lucie. Yeah, this. I'd be stunned to see them let Wilmer or Travis go for nothing.

Vic Sage Oct 26 2016 05:04 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

i agree they'll be tendered... probably. And i think they should be. But they each have injury issues, or positional issues, or production issues (or all 3), so i can't say that each of them is a mortal lock (on a par with deGrom). It depends on if the Mets make trades or sign FAs, or need to save $$ and/or a roster spot.

Ashie62 Oct 26 2016 06:10 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

The only questionable I see is Duda. Only Duda and the Mets have seen his medical reports.

seawolf17 Oct 26 2016 06:34 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Vic Sage wrote: i agree they'll be tendered... probably. And i think they should be. But they each have injury issues, or positional issues, or production issues (or all 3), so i can't say that each of them is a mortal lock (on a par with deGrom). It depends on if the Mets make trades or sign FAs, or need to save $$ and/or a roster spot. Agree - I'm just saying it'd have to be something extraordinary for the Mets to just let them go for nothing. I could see them trading any or all of them, however.

Edgy MD Oct 26 2016 08:46 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

I don't tend to think the Mets have a lot of obvious guys they desperately need to protect from the Rule 5 draft. Amed Rosario is certainly an obvious one. Marcos Molina is coming off a lost year, but he's exactly the sort of guy a bad team would want to grab, hide in the back of their bullpen, pitch once a week, and farm him out the following season. Sewald, maybe Taijeron, but if the Mets were concerned about losing him they might have called him up in September to get a look at him. Maybe Kevin McGowan. Hmmm... maybe their are a few guys worth shedding an Edgin to protect. AAA --- Las Vegas 51s Chasen Bradford Kyle Johnson L.J. Mazzilli Tyler Pill Paul Sewald Travis Taijeron Beck Wheeler AA --- Binghamton Mets Jayce Boyd Xorge Carrillo Phillip Evans Ricky Knapp Luis Mateo Kevin McGowan Jeff McNeil Matt Oberste Paul Paez Tim Peterson Colton Plaia Amed Rosario Champ Stuart Logan Taylor A+ --- St. Lucie Mets Wuilmer Becerra Patrick Biondi Chris Flexen Marcos Molina John Mora Tomas Nido Corey Oswalt Scarlyn Reyes Jhoan Urena A --- Columbia Fireflies Tyler Bashlor Kevin Canelon Nabil Crismatt Jeff Diehl Jose Garcia Cameron Griffin Johnny Magliozzi Craig Missigman Christian Montgomery Natanael Ramos Joe Tuschak A- --- Brooklyn Cyclones Gabriel Feliz Ty Williams R --- Kingsport Mets Adrian Almeida Franklin Correa Ronald Guedez Jose Maria Jose Carlos Medina Dionis Rodriguez R --- GCL Mets Nicolas Debora Jose Geraldo Luis Montero Aneury Olivo Miguel Patino Pedro Perez Richard Reina Carlos Sanchez Extended Spring Training / Other Audry German

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 26 2016 09:08 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Those are all eligible guys? Would seem Nido, Molina, Beccera, Rosario are guys with some chance to be good if not taken away in Rule 5. They also wanna see obviously what Oberste and Stewart can do. Some shitty team might take Stewart just for his glove and his wheels if they're what I think I read they were. Sewald and Pill are close. I thought for sure Sewald was gonna get a job after that great jb he did in the Vegas lid-lifter games early this season when the team really sucked.

Edgy MD Oct 27 2016 12:47 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

I didn't spot Nido and Becerra. Yeah, they're likely getting 40'd. Strange year for Wuilmer, though. He spent half of it hurt, and the other half, all his homers turned to doubles. His contact skills were there, though. He might get dangled.

Centerfield Oct 27 2016 02:00 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Edgy MD wrote: I didn't spot Nido and Becerra. Yeah, they're likely getting 40'd. Strange year for Wuilmer, though. He spent half of it hurt, and the other half, all his homers turned to doubles. His contact skills were there, though. He might get dangled. He's the one legitimate power threat in the organization. Gotta protect him.

Frayed Knot Jan 13 2017 04:14 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Duda ($7.75 mil) and Wheeler (800K) strike one-year deals and avoid the arbitration process.

d'Kong76 Jan 13 2017 01:26 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

I need an agent, how does Duda get a small raise?

Frayed Knot Jan 13 2017 01:28 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

By being compared to those in their third (and final) year of arbitration as opposed to those in their second.

d'Kong76 Jan 13 2017 03:14 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Who plays first base making over $7 mil (and is third year) and played in fewer games than Lucadude last season?

Frayed Knot Jan 13 2017 04:46 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Probably none, but of course MLB players aren't paid strictly on the results of their most recent season. And now Travis d'Arnaud checks in with a $1.875 mil deal.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 13 2017 07:14 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

New York Daily News wrote: The Mets and catcher Travis d’Arnaud avoided arbitration with a one-year, $1.875 million deal on Friday, a source familiar with the deal confirmed to the Daily News. The 27-year-old had a terrible 2016 season, with 62 hits — only seven extra-base — and 15 RBI in 251 at-bats. But in 2015, he had 27 extra-base hits, including 12 home runs, in only 67 games. On Friday the Mets also reportedly agreed to terms with lefthander Josh Edgin, righthander Addison Reed ($7.75 million) and righthander Jeurys Familia ($7.425 million).

G-Fafif Jan 13 2017 09:27 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

DeGrom and Mets settle at $4.05 million plus performance bonuses, per Rubin.

Edgy MD Jan 13 2017 09:35 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Down to Harvey and Wilmer, and I can't imagine either of them hold out long, since they were both carried over the finish line last year.

Ashie62 Jan 13 2017 10:22 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Familia 7.425 million right crosses.

G-Fafif Jan 13 2017 10:37 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Harvey in: $5.125 million plus $100K in "performance bonuses," per Wagner of NYT.

G-Fafif Jan 14 2017 12:23 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Wilmer, however, appears headed for the arbitration table, multiple sources report.

Ashie62 Jan 14 2017 01:21 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Maybe Wilmer has been talking to Wally Backman.

Zvon Jan 14 2017 04:04 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

G-Fafif wrote: Wilmer, however, appears headed for the arbitration table, multiple sources report. Hmmm.

Frayed Knot Jan 14 2017 04:17 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Eh no biggie, there's still time for the two sides to reach a negotiated settlement. And, if not, then they go the arb route to settle things. Arbitration isn't always the most pleasant solution, but even bad hearings are more likely to result in some temporary ruffled feathers than in Game of Thrones level blood and guts, and I can't recall hearing about even one player who cut ties with teams over whatever might have been said during a years-earlier arb hearing.

Edgy MD Jan 14 2017 04:51 AM Re: Mets up for arbitration

It's more typically teams that hold grudges over that sort of thing. If you want $9 million and the team is offering $7 million, and rather than settling, you insist on taking it to a hearing, when you win, the team tends to look at that extra million or so as the sum that broke the budget, and totally messed up the organization's accounting all through the summer — especially when the hearings come so late in the offseason. Steinbrenner spent years bitter at Rick Cerone for winning an arbitration hearing. He was welcome back to the fold, of course, after an extended penance in exile from the Yankee organization. The dollar amount of the Cerone's victory, of course, would be laughable by today's standards.

Frayed Knot Jan 14 2017 02:42 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Well of course that was Steinbrenner who was never at a loss to blame others (see: Winfield, Dave) for his bad business decisions (no wonder he was pals with Trump). He used to get pissed at Mattingly during his arbitration years and then even more pissed when Donnie would have the nerve to publicly point out that he volunteered to sign a multi-year deal as a 2nd or 3rd year player which would have wound up saving the Yanx millions but it was George who insisted on taking things year by year. Dellen Bettances is the lone NYY going to arbitration this year, let's see if there are any leaked reports in the near future about him not being all that plus a bag of chips. In general though, it would probably have to be the most acrimonious arbitration case of all time before either the player or the team wrote each other off one or two or three year down the line when the player qualified as a FA. If there has been a case where that's happened in recent years I certainly can't remember the specifics.

Frayed Knot Feb 04 2017 09:22 PM Re: Mets up for arbitration

Wilmer wins his Arb case netting $2.2 instead of the club's figure of $1.8 - essentially loose change under the couch cushions in today's game.