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Familia arrested // domestic violence

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 01 2016 07:19 PM

Oh for fuck's sake. http://www.northjersey.com/news/mets-re ... -1.1686047 Jeurys Familia, an All-Star pitcher for the New York Mets who was featured in a new ad campaign for an anti-domestic violence organization, was arrested on a domestic violence charge this week, according to a complaint filed by authorities in Fort Lee municipal court. Police said in the complaint that Familia caused “bodily injury to another” and that they observed a scratch to the chest and a bruise to the right cheek of the victim, whose name was redacted in the court papers provided to The Record on Tuesday. Related: Read the complaint [pdf] “The matter was brought to our attention and we are monitoring the situation,” the Mets said in a brief statement on Tuesday. Familia, 27, who is identified in the complaint as Jeurys F. Mojica, was charged with simple assault, a disorderly persons offense, according to the complaint. A Facebook page that appears to belong to Familia uses the name Jeurys Familia Mojica to identify him. The date of birth on the complaint matches the date of birth given for Familia on the Mets' website. The alleged incident took place in Fort Lee on Monday, according to the complaint. Fort Lee Police Chief Keith Bendul had declined to provide details on Monday when he was asked about the alleged incident, saying only that police officers had responded to an apartment on Park Avenue at 2:22 a.m. Monday morning after being called about “a dispute.” He did not identify the parties involved or specify whether charges had been filed. The complaint had not been filed with the judiciary by the time the court closed on Monday but was available on Tuesday. Police officers said in the complaint that they found probable cause “to believe that domestic violence had occurred.” Familia was living with his wife, Bianca, and their 1-year-old son, Jeurys Jr., in a Fort Lee apartment, according to previously published reports. He was the Mets’ top relief pitcher and a member of the National League All-Star team this year, and was part of an ad campaign that began last month featuring local professional sports celebrities condemning domestic violence. A native of the Dominican Republic, Familia spoke in Spanish on the video, saying he was a fan of baseball and of the Mets, and adding: “I am not a fan of domestic violence.” The campaign is sponsored by the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence and includes videos by New York Yankees manager Joe Giardi, New York Liberty center Kiah Stokes and former city sports stars John Starks of the Knicks and Rod Gilbert of the Rangers. New York City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito helped to coordinate the campaign. He was the star of the Mets relief pitching staff, and was the team’s closer, typically inserted at the end of games to maintain slim leads. He famously pitched on the day his son was born in 2015, helping the Mets to hold onto a lead against the Atlanta Braves at Citi Field in New York. While he was selected to be on the National League All-Star team roster this year, he did not pitch in the All-Star game. Last month, he gave up a three-run home run to Conor Gillaspie in the ninth inning to take the loss in a 3-0 Wild Card Game loss to the Giants.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2016 07:21 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Oh for fuck's sake.

seawolf17 Nov 01 2016 07:27 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Fuckin hell, Mets.

metirish Nov 01 2016 07:30 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Mets say they are monitoring the situation , SNY on the case. Mets fans in meltdown mode

G-Fafif Nov 01 2016 07:32 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Truly "ah, fuck" territory. I hope the alleged victim is doing as well as can be expected.

Centerfield Nov 01 2016 07:46 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Well fuck. Hope the victim is ok physically and mentally. I'll hold judgment until details emerge, but you know, sounds like he's being a dickhead. It's the Jose Reyes thing all over again. You really don't know these guys that we think we know.

Zvon Nov 01 2016 07:46 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

[fimg=400:36whjnhr]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwM3GVPWIAAbMDP.jpg[/fimg:36whjnhr] Mind boggling.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2016 07:49 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Centerfield wrote: It's the Jose Reyes thing all over again. You really don't know these guys that we think we know. In Familia's case, I don't even feel like I had the illusion that I knew him well. I'm still not even sure how to pronounce his name! But yeah, this sucks. If the talk is just of a "scratch" hopefully nobody was hurt too badly. And brace yourself for the onslaught of calls for the Mets to sign Kenley Jansen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 01 2016 07:50 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I didn't even know he had an alternate last name of Mojica!

Centerfield Nov 01 2016 07:53 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Zvon wrote: [fimg=400]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwM3GVPWIAAbMDP.jpg[/fimg] Mind boggling. I mean how stupid. Just shaking my head. It doesn't explicitly state that the victim is female. Can we still hold out hope that the victim is some douchebag male cousin?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2016 07:54 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't even know he had an alternate last name of Mojica! Yeah, that too! That came out of nowhere!

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2016 07:56 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Here's a link to the official complaint document: http://media.nj.com/mets_main/other/Fam ... plaint.pdf Victim's name has been redacted. The "Serious Personal Injury" checkbox was left unchecked.

themetfairy Nov 01 2016 08:00 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Add me to the Oh Fuck! brigade....

Centerfield Nov 01 2016 08:01 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

On the baseball side, there has to be some suspension coming up now right? I wonder if this will affect how Sandy approaches the bullpen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 01 2016 08:02 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

If I learned anything from To Kill a Mockingbird, its that a bruise on the victim's right cheek means the assailant led with his left.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2016 08:03 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Well, I guess he can sign Aroldis Chapman! As I said above, I think there will be public discussion (and a lot of it) about Kenley Jansen. But the less expensive route would be to have Addison Reed be the closer. My guess is that if Familia is suspended it will be 30 games. This sounds (so far anyway) like a less severe attack than what happened with Reyes in Hawaii.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 01 2016 08:18 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I don't see why not. Reed was the better pitcher last season. (But not according to Schaefer).

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2016 08:28 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Benjamin Grimm wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't even know he had an alternate last name of Mojica! Yeah, that too! That came out of nowhere! The whole which side of the family's name to use thing seems to be a bit of a optional and fluid thing with some of the Caribbean/Spanish players. Often the original/alternative is listed on their BB-Ref page but not in Familia's case.

Centerfield Nov 01 2016 08:29 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Sure, but then you need someone to replace Reed.

Zvon Nov 01 2016 08:33 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I was shaking my head just like you CF when I posted that pic. Conflicting reports coming out now. [tweet:mpqr6j7z]https://twitter.com/InMetsWeTrust/status/793546142629957632[/tweet:mpqr6j7z]

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2016 08:42 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Centerfield wrote: Sure, but then you need someone to replace Reed. I expect he'll be back by around May 1. Or he may not miss any time at all, if this really does turn out to be a hoax. (Which is a little hard to imagine. Is there a Jeurys Familia impersonator going around punching cheeks and scratching chests?)

Centerfield Nov 01 2016 08:53 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Maybe it's the same guy who dressed like Mejia and juiced! Seriously though, who is Hector Gomez? And it sounds far-fetched that this could be a false rumor. There is a police report and the Mets have acknowledged it.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 01 2016 08:56 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

This, by the way, is probably the strangest sentence I'll type this week: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Is there a Jeurys Familia impersonator going around punching cheeks and scratching chests?

Edgy MD Nov 01 2016 08:58 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Domestic abuse is an "automatic arrest" situation. If the police respond to a report, and see evidence, no amount of reasoning and explanation from the alleged perp and alleged victim will allow them to avoid making an arrest. So there may well be an arrest, police report, acknowledgement, even if the circumstances aren't what they appear. I'm not, to be sure, claiming that, but it's certainly plausible.

MFS62 Nov 01 2016 10:12 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I'm always too late to these threads. Please add my "Oh for fuck's sake" to the collection. Later

sharpie Nov 01 2016 10:25 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Oh, por amor de mierda. That's in case Familia is reading this.

Ashie62 Nov 02 2016 12:29 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Francisco Rodriguez is the first Met bullpenner to have a domestic issue. In the locker room I believe. He skated.

Nymr83 Nov 02 2016 12:47 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Ashie62 wrote: Francisco Rodriguez is the first Met bullpenner to have a domestic issue. In the locker room I believe. He skated. that was before the Ray Rice video brought national attention to domestic abuse in sports. suspension coming.

Edgy MD Nov 02 2016 12:53 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Armando Benitez also turned himself on a domestic assault case. The charge was eventually dropped. And I'm SURE Benitez is neither the first Met or first Met reliever to have such an issue.

Fman99 Nov 02 2016 12:58 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Yuk

G-Fafif Nov 02 2016 02:20 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Somewhere between Benitez and Rodriguez was Ambiorix Burgos, also on the blotter.

Edgy MD Nov 02 2016 01:26 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Man there's a thousand articles out there this morning, all with a paucity of facts.

Centerfield Nov 02 2016 01:31 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

What a shitty day yesterday was. Started with a bad joke, ended with what we were hoping was a bad dream. When I saw this thread yesterday I was filled with dread, then a glimmer of hope when it occurred to me that maybe JCL was making a lame joke like the Cespedes thread. Then I kept checking twitter in the hopes that this was, in fact, a false report. But then it became clear that the report that this was a false report was a false report. Shitty. I'm still hoping that when the details emerge, this will have nothing to do with Familia's wife, or any other woman, and that instead it will be that Jeurys punched his douchebag stepbrother who's been living on his couch and making passes at his wife. Sometimes I hate baseball.

Centerfield Nov 02 2016 01:35 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Ashie62 wrote: Francisco Rodriguez is the first Met bullpenner to have a domestic issue. In the locker room I believe. He skated. Here's the article. http://www.espn.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5457176 In the article it says Rodriguez fell under domestic violence laws. Which means that you can get nabbed for hitting a guy. I can't believe I am sitting here on Wednesday morning hoping that the person Familia punched on Monday night was male. Being a fan makes you do such crazy things.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2016 11:23 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

News reports today indicate that the victim was in fact Familia's wife.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2016 12:13 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

It's amazin' that it's multiple days and that's the only emergent detail, a detail which was more or less leaked previously.

Centerfield Nov 03 2016 02:27 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Benjamin Grimm wrote: News reports today indicate that the victim was in fact Familia's wife. Well that's shitty. Hope that she is ok. Emotionally and physically. While I am sitting here worried about who will close, she is nursing her injuries. Fucking hell Jeurys. Why did you have to be an asshole.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 17 2016 04:28 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Familia's wife apparently called 911 a few times but then hung up. A dispatcher called back and she eventually described what was happening. The Fort Lee Patch wrote: A New York Mets pitcher was "drunk" and "going crazy" on the night he was arrested for alleged domestic violence in New Jersey, according to the 911 call of the incident. NJ.com obtained an audio copy of the 911 call reporting the alleged domestic violence involving Jeurys Familia, an All-Star pitcher for the New York Mets. Familia was charged with domestic violence just days after he was featured in an anti-domestic violence advertising campaign, a complaint authorities filed in Fort Lee Municipal Court shows. Police said in the complaint that Familia caused "bodily injury to another" and that they saw a bruise on the person's right cheek and a scratch on the individual's chest, according to northjersey.com. Familia's wife, Bianca Rivas, made several 911 calls to Fort Lee police on Oct. 31, beginning at 2:18 a.m., before finally responding to a dispatcher, according to the nj.com report. "What's the problem over there?" the dispatcher says in the call "My husband had a little bit of alcohol and he's going crazy," says Rivas. "Your husband is drinking and you're in a dispute with him?" the dispatcher asked. "Yeah. He's drunk," Rivas responds. I listened to the audio of the 911 call, available at http://patch.com/new-jersey/fortlee/911 ... rest-audio Despite some of the descriptions that I've seen in some articles, the tone doesn't sound "frantic" at all. If you decide to listen, you can pretty much skip ahead to the 3:30 mark.

Edgy MD Nov 17 2016 04:39 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Really? You weren't impressed by the three minutes of dead air and one-way conversations?

Edgy MD Nov 17 2016 06:15 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I guess "frantic" can describe the number of calls placed back and forth before they actually made a connection.

Centerfield Nov 17 2016 06:27 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

She sounds annoyed, more than threatened. Certainly not frantic. But again, you have to investigate. She was injured. Gotta get to the bottom of things.

Edgy MD Dec 15 2016 03:51 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Charges dropped. According to Newsday's Jim Baumbach... [tweet]https://twitter.com/jimbaumbach/status/809413896360497153[/tweet] [tweet]https://twitter.com/jimbaumbach/status/809413174600417280[/tweet] [tweet]https://twitter.com/jimbaumbach/status/809412992827850752[/tweet] Obviously, MLB may see things another way, but this certainly doesn't strengthen baseball's case against him.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 15 2016 03:54 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I don't expect that the suspension will be too lengthy. It sounds like it should be shorter than the one that Jose Reyes received. My guess is at most 30 games. This new information may make it shorter than that.

Centerfield Dec 15 2016 07:25 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Charges dropped. According to Newsday's Jim Baumbach... [tweet]https://twitter.com/jimbaumbach/status/809413896360497153[/tweet] [tweet]https://twitter.com/jimbaumbach/status/809413174600417280[/tweet] [tweet]https://twitter.com/jimbaumbach/status/809412992827850752[/tweet] Obviously, MLB may see things another way, but this certainly doesn't strengthen baseball's case against him. Wait, so does that mean they concluded there was no domestic violence?

Benjamin Grimm Dec 15 2016 07:29 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Or maybe that they couldn't conclude that there was.

Centerfield Dec 15 2016 07:32 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I think this distinction will be important. There is a big difference between the prosecution being unable to prove their case and the prosecution concluding that no DV occurred.

Edgy MD Dec 15 2016 07:42 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

You're the law-talking guy, but if the prosecution is quoted as making statements that work against their own case, and the case has been expunged from the official record, I'd think of that as a best-case scenario, from the perspective of whoever is going to represent him on behalf of the union. That said, they may still end up accepting a suspension of some sort—perhaps 10 days or 10 games—because appearances are important and if nothing else, he appears to have gotten psycho-drunk enough to endanger his family, and that's not nothing.

Zvon Dec 15 2016 07:47 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Baseball should not be considered the judge in these situations. The charges were dropped. Case closed. No charges. No suspension. They can't be suspending players simply because they were accused of something. I'm not saying what Familia did, whatever it was, wasn't bad. More than likely it was. But you can't be going by accusations. We have an idea what happened but we don't really know, yet most people have already branded him guilty. Baseball should take a step back and not address such accusations except to say that MLB abhors domestic violence and we reserve judgement and withhold punishment until the case is brought to trial and a determination has been made. I think domestic violence is really bad and don't condone it in any way, but even players should be afforded due process when accused of such serious offenses.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 15 2016 07:50 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Well, the problem with that is that when charges are dropped, as they were with Jose Reyes, how can we know that the wife wasn't intimidated into dropping those charges?

Zvon Dec 15 2016 07:56 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Well, the problem with that is that when charges are dropped, as they were with Jose Reyes, how can we know that the wife wasn't intimidated into dropping those charges? How do we know the wife wasn't exaggerating the situation because she's a devious person. I'm not saying Familia's wife is such a case but the thing is there are people like that out there. As things stand on the record, we just don't know. If baseball does it's own investigation and publishes it's findings I'll back whatever they decide. But not if what they decide is based solely on accusations. That's just wrong.

Edgy MD Dec 15 2016 07:59 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I'm certainly not advocating denying players due process, but MLB has its own form of due process outlined in the general agreement. And beyond violations of the law, it's their business to find out if players violate MLB policy.

Zvon Dec 15 2016 08:05 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Great. I'll wait for their investigative report and then back their findings if it is warranted.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 15 2016 08:10 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

This is what you said: The charges were dropped. Case closed. No charges. No suspension. That can't be how it works, because it's possible that the charges get dropped because the abuser intimidates the victim into dropping the charges. Jose Reyes clearly attacked his wife. But the charges were dropped. "No charges. No suspension" means that Jose shouldn't have been suspended. I can't agree with that.

Centerfield Dec 15 2016 08:13 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

There are different burdens of proof for civil and criminal liability.

Lefty Specialist Dec 15 2016 08:16 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I'm betting he gets something in the 30-50 day range. MLB won't turn a blind eye to this just because the charges were dropped in court.

Centerfield Dec 15 2016 08:38 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Edgy MD wrote: You're the law-talking guy, but if the prosecution is quoted as making statements that work against their own case, and the case has been expunged from the official record, I'd think of that as a best-case scenario, from the perspective of whoever is going to represent him on behalf of the union. That said, they may still end up accepting a suspension of some sort—perhaps 10 days or 10 games—because appearances are important and if nothing else, he appears to have gotten psycho-drunk enough to endanger his family, and that's not nothing. That's what I'm thinking. This is different than "the victim won't cooperate", or "we didn't have enough evidence to proceed". If the Newsday tweets are correct, they actually reached a conclusion that no domestic violence took place. If that is the case, then there should be no suspension. Somewhere on twitter it said Familia barricaded himself into his bathroom. If you are feeling out of control, that's you know, kinda the responsible thing to do. Sure, getting drunk and getting out of control is not without fault, but if you are going to end up suspending quite a few guys if that is your criteria.

themetfairy Dec 15 2016 09:04 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

If he didn't hit, you must acquit! Seriously - if the finding is that no abuse took place then I don't see it as MLB's place to punish somebody for a non-event.

cooby Dec 15 2016 09:48 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

That's kinda how I see it, but as in any of these cases, I hope if he did injure her, he gets his due in some other form, such as a car door falls off when he opens it or something. You know, some kind of bad luck dogging him.

Frayed Knot Dec 15 2016 10:23 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Determining that it's a non-crime doesn't necessarily make it a non-event. Essentially this decision by the judicial system means that the MLB investigation part of it is just beginning, or I'm sure that it's already begun only now it takes precedence and moves to the forefront. Now maybe they also decide that this doesn't require any action but they don't automatically decide that based on the fact that the courts didn't.

themetfairy Dec 15 2016 10:38 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

cooby wrote: That's kinda how I see it, but as in any of these cases, I hope if he did injure her, he gets his due in some other form, such as a car door falls off when he opens it or something. You know, some kind of bad luck dogging him. That would be the most Metsian kind of injury ever!

Nymr83 Dec 16 2016 02:39 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

its really tough because there are multiple angles to this - but lets start with the fact that 99% of us would be OVERJOYED to get 100 days off from work as the only consequence of these allegations - most people would be FIRED.

Ashie62 Dec 16 2016 03:21 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Speculation is 30 games. [url]http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6703/jeurys-familia

Ceetar Dec 16 2016 03:30 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Nymr83 wrote: its really tough because there are multiple angles to this - but lets start with the fact that 99% of us would be OVERJOYED to get 100 days off from work as the only consequence of these allegations - most people would be FIRED. Then again most employers wouldn't likely find out, especially if the court proceedings end in expungement. It's tough. I don't really like the idea that MLB can or should play morality police. Especially for something as murky as this. Reyes and Chapman, yes, Chapman was a violent dangerous maniac, and Reyes' situation, while not as deadly and maybe possibly more heat of the moment than serial abuser, still resulted in a hospital visit and damage, by his own hand. We don't seem super sure what happened with Familia. Where does it end? I mean, does a guy get a speeding ticket and get suspended? or is it only strictly criminal charges? Jason Werth got nothing for reckless driving even though he spent five days in jail. Very little happens for drunk driving arrests.

Edgy MD Dec 16 2016 04:34 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Ceetar wrote: We don't seem super sure what happened with Familia. I imagine MLB will have more information at their disposal than we have now.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 16 2016 07:29 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Somewhere down the line, a big legal shitstorm is going to unfold when a professional athlete is suspended for involvement, or alleged involvement really, in an incident in which there were no criminal findings. Familia's wife is not bound by the CBA or any other MLB rule, and is not obligated to cooperate with MLB's investigation of this alleged incident. It appears that either nothing happened here, or the Familias are closing ranks to make it appear as if nothing happened so that Jeurys could either avoid or minimize a suspension and all of the negative consequences that would flow to the Familias from that suspension, including, obviously, loss of income.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 01 2017 12:45 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

So when are we going to find out if Familia is suspended, and for how long? The criminal case was dismissed a while ago. The commissioner's office really needs to get this settled so the Mets can know how their bullpen will be affected for the 2017 season.

Ceetar Feb 01 2017 03:09 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Benjamin Grimm wrote: So when are we going to find out if Familia is suspended, and for how long? The criminal case was dismissed a while ago. The commissioner's office really needs to get this settled so the Mets can know how their bullpen will be affected for the 2017 season. yeah, the league really needs to codify this better with better timelines. It's only a matter of time before someone actually fights the suspension (although the Union might be spineless in regards to this stuff) on the grounds that "I literally did nothing wrong it's all a misunderstanding you have no right to suspend me that violates the terms of our contract and I'm now a free agent fuck you"

Edgy MD Feb 01 2017 03:19 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

That may be part of the issue. Aroldis Chapman and (I think) José Reyes agreed to their suspensions despite the lack of cooperation from a complainant/victim. Perhaps Familia isn't being as accommodating, which puts them in the position of wondering how much authority they have to rule outright.

Ceetar Feb 01 2017 04:49 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Edgy MD wrote: That may be part of the issue. Aroldis Chapman and (I think) José Reyes agreed to their suspensions despite the lack of cooperation from a complainant/victim. Perhaps Familia isn't being as accommodating, which puts them in the position of wondering how much authority they have to rule outright. I feel like we'd hear about that though. I think they dragged their feet a while on Reyes too, people just assumed it was because the policy was new and they were debating.

Edgy MD Feb 01 2017 01:37 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

We do hear about it. There's just nothing much new to note.

Centerfield Feb 01 2017 02:37 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I think this is a very tricky subject for MLB. I understand that MLB is not bound by the burden of proof necessary for a criminal conviction (beyond a reasonable doubt). I'm fine with that. But they cannot be allowed to suspend a player and deprive them of income simply because they suspect that something happened without sufficient evidence. The DV laws are designed to encourage arrests and be overbroad. There are many reasons behind this, all of which I support. But then a further investigation must be done. The results of that further investigation are critical to whether MLB should be allowed to suspend. In my opinion, MLB should at least find, by a preponderance of the evidence (the non-criminal burden of proof in most cases), that DV has occurred before they can punish. I think that in both the Chapman and Reyes cases, this was the case. If they are invoking punishments without even meeting this level then I think their punishments are arbitrary. For Familia, if the reports are true, it appeared that the Judge and prosecution came to the affirmative conclusion that no domestic violence occurred. That is a big, big difference than charges being dropped because there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. I don't know if MLB is able to access the Court files. But an affirmative ruling by the Court would seem to indicate that no suspension should be warranted. I would fight like hell if I were Familia. (Unless the reports are wrong, and he did actually hit his wife. Then MLB should suspend him and he should accept it.)

Ceetar Feb 01 2017 02:52 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

I think they should just suspend him for 'drunk and disorderly conduct' and make up some b.s. about representing the game/league/etc. Less murky that way. Chapman fired a gun outside his house. that definitely warrants punishment. I don't know what the laws are in his neck of the woods but I'd really hope firing shots in anger in public are not acceptable things.

Centerfield Feb 01 2017 02:58 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

If you're going to suspend for drunk and disorderly conduct you are going to end up suspending half the league. And most of the fans. Some tipsy guy was even rumored to have run into Fran Healy while walking out of Shea Stadium and telling him, despite years of complaining about him, that he was the best announcer in the world.

Ceetar Feb 01 2017 03:02 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Centerfield wrote: If you're going to suspend for drunk and disorderly conduct you are going to end up suspending half the league. And most of the fans. Some tipsy guy was even rumored to have run into Fran Healy while walking out of Shea Stadium and telling him, despite years of complaining about him, that he was the best announcer in the world. well, one's that get the police called and such probably cuts that down a bunch.

cooby Feb 01 2017 03:33 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Centerfield wrote: If you're going to suspend for drunk and disorderly conduct you are going to end up suspending half the league. And most of the fans. Some tipsy guy was even rumored to have run into Fran Healy while walking out of Shea Stadium and telling him, despite years of complaining about him, that he was the best announcer in the world. CF did you mention that you have a cyber friend that thinks he's hot as hell?

Frayed Knot Feb 03 2017 04:52 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

NYDN: "Baseball will make a decision on Jeurys Familia by Opening Day, MLB commish Rob Manfred said Friday." Well that's helpful.

Edgy MD Feb 03 2017 04:55 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

You see, this is why Hamlet wanted to stab himself.

Lefty Specialist Feb 03 2017 06:06 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Well, that's ridiculous. You don't wait until the last minute to suspend him (or not). The Mets have to plan their season. If they're missing Familia for a month, other people get tried out in different roles in Spring Training. If they're not, they go about things normally. What this means is that their investigation has reached a dead end, and they're probably putting some pressure on the Mets to put pressure in turn on Familia & friends to cooperate.

Centerfield Feb 04 2017 05:41 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Lefty Specialist wrote: Well, that's ridiculous. You don't wait until the last minute to suspend him (or not). The Mets have to plan their season. If they're missing Familia for a month, other people get tried out in different roles in Spring Training. If they're not, they go about things normally. What this means is that their investigation has reached a dead end, and they're probably putting some pressure on the Mets to put pressure in turn on Familia & friends to cooperate. If it's hit a dead end you can't suspend. Agreed on this. Inexcusable.

Ashie62 Feb 06 2017 02:12 AM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

If he didn't hit you must acquit.

Frayed Knot Mar 21 2017 02:16 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

So the legal system has run its course, we're within two weeks of the opening of the season, the DR has been eliminated from the WBC, and we still don't have a decision from the commish's office on what, if any, suspension JF is going to be hit with to start the year.

Ceetar Mar 21 2017 02:30 PM Re: Familia arrested // domestic violence

Frayed Knot wrote: So the legal system has run its course, we're within two weeks of the opening of the season, the DR has been eliminated from the WBC, and we still don't have a decision from the commish's office on what, if any, suspension JF is going to be hit with to start the year. he reported back and had a press conference yesterday. So I expect we'll hear today, now that he's clearly just a random Mets player and not in any way representing MLB and showcasing the sport on an international stage. There's no hypocrisy there. move along.