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Rotblatt
Mar 02 2006 07:50 AM

A nifty article about Padilla's card tricks.

Notes: Padilla's magic to be missed
While reliever plays in Classic, Mets will be without top trickster
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060227&content_id=1325079&vkey=spt2006news&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

Incidentally, "Do You Believe In Magic" could challenge "Don't Stop Believing" for Gayest Song Adopted By A Baseball Team were the Mets secure enough in their masculinity to take it on.

Bret Sabermetric
Mar 02 2006 08:22 AM

If only you believed like I believe, baby....

seawolf17
Mar 02 2006 09:07 AM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
If only you believed like I believe, baby....

If we all believed like you believe, baby, this board would suck.

KC
Mar 02 2006 09:20 AM

In these times of contention it's not my intention to make things plain
I'm looking through mirrors to catch the reflection that can't be mine
I'm losing control now I'll just have to slow down a thought or two
I can't feel the future and I'm not even certain that there is a past
I believe in the worker's revolution
And I believe in the final solution
I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the shape of things to come
And I believe in I'm not the only one
Yes I believe in
I believe in
When I poison my system I take thoughts and twist them into shapes
I'm reaching my nadir and I haven't an idea of what to do
I'm painting by numbers but can't find the colours that fill you in
I'm not even knowing if I'm coming or going if to end or begin
I believe in the immaculate conception
And I believe in the resurrection
And I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the elixir of youth
And I believe in the absolute truth
Yes I believe in
I believe in
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
I've fallen from favour while trying to savour experience
I'm seeing things clearly but it has quite nearly blown my mind
It's the aim of existence to offer resistance to the flow of time
Everything is and that is why it is will be the line
I believe in perpetual motion
And I believe in perfect devotion
I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the things I've never had
I believe in my Mum and my Dad
And I believe in
I believe in
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
I'm skippin' the pages of a book that takes ages for the foreword to end
Triangular cover concealing another aspect from view
My relative motion is just an illusion from stopping too fast
The essence of being these feelings I'm feeling I just want them to last
I believe in original sin
And I believe what I believe in
Yes I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the web of fate
And I believe in I'm going to be late
So I'll be leavin'
What I believe in
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore

cooby
Mar 02 2006 09:22 AM




Do you beleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve in the Mets?

cooby
Mar 02 2006 09:22 AM

Cher in a body stocking what's the world coming to?

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 02 2006 09:23 AM

When I was young and full of grace
and spirited--a rattlesnake.
When I was young and fever fell
My spirit, I will not tell
You’re on your honor not to tell

I believe in coyotes and time as an abstract
Explain the change, the difference between
What you want and what you need, there’s the key,
Your adventure for today, what do you do
Between the horns of the day?

I believe my shirt is wearing thin
And change is what I believe in

When I was young and give and take
And foolish said my fool awake
When I was young and fever fell
My spirit, I will not tell
You’re on your honor, on your honor

Trust in your calling, make sure your calling’s true
Think of others, the others think of you
Silly rule golden words make, practice, practice makes perfect,
Perfect is a fault, and fault lines change

I believe my humor’s wearing thin
And change is what I believe in

I believe my shirt is wearing thin
And change is what I believe in

When I was young and full of grace
As spirited a rattlesnake
When I was young and fever fell
My spirit, I will not tell
You’re on your honor, on your honor
I believe in example
I believe my throat hurts
Example is the checker to the key

I believe my humor’s wearing thin
And I believe the poles are shifting

I believe my shirt is wearing thin
And change is what I believe in

--Berry Buck Mills Stipe

Bret Sabermetric
Mar 02 2006 09:23 AM

seawolf17 wrote:
="Bret Sabermetric"]If only you believed like I believe, baby....

If we all believed like you believe, baby, this board would suck.


Just settin' 'em up for ya, baby, on a tee.

seawolf17
Mar 02 2006 09:31 AM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
="seawolf17"]
Bret Sabermetric wrote:
If only you believed like I believe, baby....

If we all believed like you believe, baby, this board would suck.


Just settin' 'em up for ya, baby, on a tee.

Luv ya, big guy.

Bret Sabermetric
Mar 02 2006 09:41 AM

seawolf17 wrote:
="Bret Sabermetric"]
seawolf17 wrote:
="Bret Sabermetric"]If only you believed like I believe, baby....

If we all believed like you believe, baby, this board would suck.


Just settin' 'em up for ya, baby, on a tee.

Luv ya, big guy.


You're just saying that because I flashed a little cleavage the other day.

DocTee
Mar 02 2006 10:53 AM

I believe, for every drop of rain that falls,
A flower grows...

I believe that somewhere in the darkest night,
A candle glows...

I believe for everyone who goes astray,
Someone will come, to show the way,
I believe, I believe...

I believe, above the storm the smallest prayer,
Will still be heard...

I believe, that someone in the great somewhere,
Hears every word...

Everytime I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf, or see the sky,
Then I know why, I believe!

I believe, above the storm the smallest prayer,
Will still be heard...

I believe, that someone in the great somewhere,
Hears every word...

Everytime I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf, or see the sky,
Then I know why, I believe!

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 02 2006 10:58 AM

I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside...


Ack. I never really liked that song. Let's try something else:


I've been to Nice
And the isles of Greece
And I've sipped champagne on a yacht
I moved like Harlow in Monte Carlo
And showed 'em what I got
I've been undressed by kings
And I've seen some things
That a woman ain't supposed to see
I've been to paradise
But I've never been to me

cooby
Mar 02 2006 10:59 AM

I knew it...

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 02 2006 11:04 AM

That was for you, cooby.

Bret Sabermetric
Mar 02 2006 11:04 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside...


Ack. I never really liked that song.


I used to sing a pretty good psychotic-Whitney Houston version of that song, which began

I believe children are fuschia,
Light them up and let them know the score...

By the way, has anyone noticed how this thread has utterly (and loopily) deviated from its origins? i mean, no one has so much as acknowledged Rotblatt's link. It's like it doesn't even exist.

KC
Mar 02 2006 11:11 AM

OZZY

Watching the time go and feeling belief grow
Rise above the obstacles
People beseech me but they'll never teach me
Things that I already know (I know)

Dreams that have shattered may not have mattered
Take another point of view
Doubts will arise though like chasing a rainbow
I can tell a thing or two (That's true)

You've got to believe in yourself or no one
Will believe in you
Imagination like a bird on the wing
Flying, free for you to use (O.K. baby)

I can't believe they stop and stare
And point their fingers doubting me
Their disbelief suppresses them
But they're not blind it's just that they won't see

I'm a believer, I ain't no deceiver
Mountains move before my eyes
Destiny planned out I don't need no handout
Speculation of the wise

Willets Point
Mar 02 2006 11:12 AM

Dare I say:

The Magic is Back!!!

TheOldMole
Mar 02 2006 11:27 AM

I believe in the Church of Baseball. I've tried all the major religions, and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I heard that, I gave Jesus a chance. But it just didn't work out between us. The Lord laid too much guilt on me. I prefer metaphysics to theology. You see, there's no guilt in baseball, and it's never boring... which makes it like sex. There's never been a ballplayer slept with me who didn't have the best year of his career. Making love is like hitting a baseball: you just gotta relax and concentrate. Besides, I'd never sleep with a player hitting under .250... not unless he had a lot of RBIs and was a great glove man up the middle. You see, there's a certain amount of life wisdom I give these boys. I can expand their minds. Sometimes when I've got a ballplayer alone, I'll just read Emily Dickinson or Walt Whitman to him, and the guys are so sweet, they always stay and listen. 'Course, a guy'll listen to anything if he thinks it's foreplay. I make them feel confident, and they make me feel safe, and pretty. 'Course, what I give them lasts a lifetime; what they give me lasts 142 games. Sometimes it seems like a bad trade. But bad trades are part of baseball - now who can forget Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas, for God's sake? It's a long season and you gotta trust. I've tried 'em all, I really have, and the only church that truly feeds the soul, day in, day out, is the Church of Baseball.

TheOldMole
Mar 02 2006 11:29 AM

I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

TheOldMole
Mar 02 2006 11:30 AM

Hey, neat. I'm Warren Spahn. I've always believed he was the greatest.

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 02 2006 11:59 AM

108 beads on the rosary? Hey, I didn't know that!

108 is also the sum of Hurley's numbers.

seawolf17
Mar 02 2006 12:08 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
108 is also the sum of Hurley's numbers.

God, that's great television. I just wish they wouldn't show so many f%&king reruns.

cooby
Mar 02 2006 12:13 PM

="Yancy Street Gang"]That was for you, cooby.



You're just paying me back for the Cher picture aren't you?

MFS62
Mar 02 2006 01:15 PM

Speaking of Cher, a little of something from two springs ago.
Enjoy,
Later
*******************************************************************************
Believe

(Another glove, Another glove Another glove)
(Another glove, Another glove Another glove)
(Another glove, Another glove Another glove)

No matter how hard you try
Your throwing just makes us cry
And Howe can’t still break through
It seems that there's no talking to you
It's so sad Mets fans are heaving
Watch him once and you’ll believe it
But after all is said and done
He’ll have to move to base number one, oh

Chorus:
Do you believe that Mike has to change his glove?
I can feel something inside me say
He really can’t catch for us one more day, no
Do you believe that Mike has to change his glove?
I can feel something inside me say
His arm isn’t nearly strong enough, no


What is Howe supposed to do
Sit around and wait for you?
Well he can't do that
He asked, there's no turning back
We know its time to move on
Our love for you’s still strong
And you’ve had some time to think it through
Maybe first base will be good for you, oh

(chorus)
Do you believe that Mike has to change his glove?
I can feel something inside me say
He really can’t catch for us one more day, no
Do you believe that Mike has to change his glove?
I can feel something inside me say
His arm isn’t nearly strong enough, no
Well I know that he’ll get through this
'Cause we know his bat’s still strong
But you can’t catch anymore
No, you can’t catch anymore

(chorus)(repeat)
Do you believe that Mike has to change his glove?
I can feel something inside me say
He really can’t catch for us one more day, no
Do you believe that Mike has to change his glove?
I can feel something inside me say
His arm isn’t nearly strong enough, no

Bret Sabermetric
Mar 02 2006 01:20 PM

I wish you'd get off Piazza's case already.

It's in the past, it's over. do you think we give a crap about this stuff anymore? Get over it, get over yourself, and find a new hobbyhorse, for Chrissake.

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 02 2006 01:26 PM

Now you sound like that cleon guy. "Who cares about Frank Thomas? Only old fat people care about Frank Thomas!"

KC
Mar 02 2006 01:28 PM

Catchers and firstbasemen wear mitts, not gloves ....

I used to be on an endless run.
Believe in miracles 'cause I'm one.
I have been blessed with the power to survive.
After all these years I'm still alive.

I'm out here kickin' with the band.
I am no longer a solitary man.
Every day my time runs out.
Lived like a fool, that's what I was about, oh

I believe in miracles.
I believe in a better world for me and you.
Oh, I believe in miracles.
I believe in a better world for me and you.

Tattooed your name on my arm.
I always said my girl's a good luck charm.
If she can find a reason to forgive,
Then I can find a reason to live.

I used to be on an endless run.
Believe in miracles 'cause I'm one.
I have been blessed with the power to survive.
After all these years I'm still alive.

I believe in miracles.
I believe in a better world for me and you.
Oh, I believe in miracles.
I believe in a better world for me and you.

I close my eyes and think how it might be.
The future's here today.
It's not too late.
It's not too late, yeah!

I believe in miracles.
I believe in a better world for me and you.
Oh, I believe in miracles.
I believe in a better world for me and you.

Frayed Knot
Mar 02 2006 01:48 PM

"Do you believe in miracles?"















YES!!!!

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 02 2006 01:50 PM

Do you believe in peanut butter?

Centerfield
Mar 02 2006 01:52 PM

Lost in all this was a possibly great topic raised by Rotblatt.

"Don't Stop Believing" has to be the gayest team song ever. "Who let the Dogs Out" might have been the worst, but as far as gay goes, it's hard to get gayer than Journey. (And yes I realize there is a picture of Cher in this very thread, but you get the idea.)

Is there a band less likely to record a sports team anthem than Journey? Maybe REO Speedwagon?

Rotblatt
Mar 02 2006 01:56 PM

How about Hot Chocolate?

"I believe in miracles
where you from
you sexy thing (you sexy thing you)
I believe in miracles
Since you came along
You sexy thing (you sexy thing you)"

cooby
Mar 02 2006 02:00 PM

That would make a good drinking song

MFS62
Mar 02 2006 02:01 PM

But, do you believe in magic?
(Cue the song)


Later

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 02 2006 02:21 PM

]Is there a band less likely to record a sports team anthem than Journey? Maybe REO Speedwagon?


Quarterflash?

cooby
Mar 02 2006 02:26 PM

Nobody, but nobody, was gayer than Air Supply.

I'm lying alone with my head on the phone
Thinking of you till it hurts
I know you hurt too but what else can we do
Tormented and torn apart
I wish I could carry your smile and my heart
For times when my life feels so low
It would make me believe what tomorrow could bring
When today doesn't really know, doesn't really know


Chorus:
I 'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I 'm all out of love, what am I without you
I can't be too late to say that I was so wrong


I want you to come back and carry me home
Away from this long lonely nights
I'm reaching for you, are you feeling it too
Does the feeling seem oh so right
And what would you say if I called on you now
And said that I can't hold on
There's no easy way, it gets harder each day
Please love me or I'll be gone, I'll be gone


Chorus


Oh, what are you thinking of?
What are you thinking of?
Oh, what are you thinking of?
What are you thinking of?

TheOldMole
Mar 02 2006 11:21 PM

I believe what you say
When you say you're going steady with nobody else but me
I believe what you say when you say you don't kiss
Nobody else but me