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BLC: Battle for NYC: Talking Heads vs. Velvet Underground

sharpie Mar 06 2006 09:25 AM

In this corner: Talking Heads Once in a Lifetime Life During Wartime Thank You for Sending Me an Angel Heaven Take Me to the River Slippery People Psycho Killer Burning Down the House Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) Road to Nowhere

Rotblatt Mar 06 2006 10:10 AM

Responding with a 2 new additions and some reshuffling of the lineup by skipper Rotblatt: The Velvet Underground 1. Foggy Notion ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000008LZA/104-8989377-8255152?v=glance&n=5174]"VU"[/url]) 2. Sweet Jane (full-lenth version, [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000033WC/qid=1141075445/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]"Loaded (Fully Loaded Edition)"[/url]) 3. All Tomorrow's Parties ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1141074154/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]The Velvet Underground & Nico[/url]) 4. White Light/White Heat ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001FR9/qid=1141074154/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]Best Of[/url]) 5. Venus In Furs ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1141072935/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]All Tomorrow's Parties[/url]) 6. Waiting For the Man ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1141074154/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]The Velvet Underground & Nico[/url]) 7. Femme Fatale ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1141074154/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]The Velvet Underground & Nico[/url]) 8. Pale Blue Eyes ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7G/qid=1141657770/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-8989377-8255152?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]"The Velvet Underground"[/url]) 9. Rock And Roll ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002LVB/qid=1141075445/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]Loaded[/url]) 10. Beginning to See the Light ([url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001FR9/qid=1141074154/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]Best Of[/url])

sharpie Mar 06 2006 10:23 AM

Listen to Talking Heads here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002IQMKM/sr=8-1/qid=1141658497/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4322401-9239225?%5Fencoding=UTF8 and here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000K3G8/sr=8-2/qid=1141658643/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-4322401-9239225?%5Fencoding=UTF8

sharpie Mar 06 2006 12:14 PM

Once in a Lifetime vs. Foggy Notion Heads. "Foggy Notion" is a good, but unfinished sounding song. Life During Wartime vs. Sweet Jane Heavyweight Battle. VU Thank You for Sending Me an Angel vs. All Tomorrow's Parties Heads Heaven vs. White Light/White Heat VU (funny matchup) Take Me to the River vs. Venus in Furs Heads Slippery People vs. I'm Waiting for the Man Heads Psycho Killer vs. Femme Fatale Heads Burning Down the House vs. Pale Blue Eyes VU Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) vs. Rock and Roll VU Road to Nowhere vs. Beginning to See the Light Heads Talking Heads 6 Velvet Underground 4

Johnny Dickshot Mar 06 2006 01:13 PM

Another contest I hated every vote in Once in a Lifetime v. Foggy Notion --Heads Life During Wartime v. Sweet Jane --Heads Thank You for Sending Me an Angel v. All Tomorrow's Parties --VU Heaven v. White Light/White Heat --VU Take Me to the River v. Venus In Furs --two odd songs here. Heads Slippery People v. Waiting For the Man --VU Psycho Killer v. Femme Fatale --Deadly matchup! Tie. Burning Down the House v. Pale Blue Eyes --Heads Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) v. Rock And Roll --VU Road to Nowhere v. Beginning to See the Light --VU VU 5.5, TH 4.5 Heads could have taken this had “Cities” been included. End transmission.

RealityChuck Mar 06 2006 01:34 PM

Once in a Lifetime v. Foggy Notion -- Heads Life During Wartime v. Sweet Jane -- VU Thank You for Sending Me an Angel v. All Tomorrow's Parties -- tie Heaven v. White Light/White Heat -- Heads Take Me to the River v. Venus In Furs -- Heads Slippery People v. Waiting For the Man -- No preference Psycho Killer v. Femme Fatale -- Heads Burning Down the House v. Pale Blue Eyes -- Heads Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) v. Rock And Roll -- tie Road to Nowhere v. Beginning to See the Light -- tie Heads 5 VU 1

Rotblatt Mar 06 2006 01:42 PM

Once in a Lifetime v. Foggy Notion --TH Life During Wartime v. Sweet Jane --VU Thank You for Sending Me an Angel v. All Tomorrow's Parties --VU Heaven v. White Light/White Heat --TH Take Me to the River v. Venus In Furs --Tie. Slippery People v. Waiting For the Man --VU Psycho Killer v. Femme Fatale --VU. Close one. Burning Down the House v. Pale Blue Eyes --VU Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) v. Rock And Roll --VU Road to Nowhere v. Beginning to See the Light --Tie. 7 - 3, VU

sharpie Mar 06 2006 05:02 PM

Early voting has 20.5-19.5 lead for Talking Heads. My guess is that this vote is suppressed as some people don't know Velvet Underground catalog.

Willets Point Mar 06 2006 05:22 PM

Also, I forgot to vote on this one. Not that I'm going to make much of a difference in the score. Once in a Lifetime v. Foggy Notion - Talking Heads Life During Wartime v. Sweet Jane -Tie Thank You for Sending Me an Angel v. All Tomorrow's Parties - Velvet Underground Heaven v. White Light/White Heat - Tie Takke Me to the River v. Venus In Furs- Talking Heads Slippery People v. Waiting For the Man - Velvet Underground Psycho Killer v. Femme Fatale - Velvet Underground Burning Down the House v. Pale Blue Eyes - Talking Heads Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) v. Rock And Roll -Tie Road to Nowhere v. Beginning to See the Light - Tie Talking Heads 5:5 Velvet Underground. In the battle of NYC they may have to share the title. Of course the Ramones haven't chimed in yet.

Rotblatt Mar 06 2006 05:31 PM

Yeah, I think you're right. A damn shame--this is a great match-up! For people interested, you can listen to the first 30 seconds of VU songs through [url=http://velvet-underground.we-myi.org/#]"these"[/url] guys. Combined with 20 different seconds from Amazon, it's like a whole third of the songs! And for anyone with MP3 players, I recommend buying all 10 songs through your favorite online music vendor. If you like the Talking Heads (or, you know, Lou Reed or John Cale), you won't regret it. If you have a whole bunch of time to kill but no money, you could create a personalized Yahoo! Launchcast music station, give VU top ranking and all 10 songs top ranking, refuse to rank anything else, and let it play for a while . . . Actually, Launchcast in general is really cool. I'm too cheap to get the commercial-free version, but they've got a really wide range of music and the recommendation algorithim is really effective. I've discovered any number of bands through songs they play based on my rankings.

Rotblatt Mar 06 2006 05:35 PM

Damnit. "I'm Set Free" needs to be included in the next round. On edit: And "Cool it Down" too.

Zvon Mar 06 2006 06:22 PM

Once in a Lifetime v. Foggy Notion - Heads Life During Wartime v. Sweet Jane -Heads Thank You for Sending Me an Angel v. All Tomorrow's Parties - V U Heaven v. White Light/White Heat - V U Takke Me to the River v. Venus In Furs- Heads Slippery People v. Waiting For the Man - Heads Psycho Killer v. Femme Fatale - Heads Burning Down the House v. Pale Blue Eyes - Heads Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) v. Rock And Roll -V U Road to Nowhere v. Beginning to See the Light - Heads Heads 7-3

seawolf17 Mar 06 2006 08:36 PM

Once in a Lifetime v. Foggy Notion - Heads Life During Wartime v. Sweet Jane - VU Thank You for Sending Me an Angel v. All Tomorrow's Parties - VU Heaven v. White Light/White Heat - VU Take Me to the River v. Venus In Furs - Heads Slippery People v. Waiting For the Man - VU Psycho Killer v. Femme Fatale - Heads Burning Down the House v. Pale Blue Eyes - Heads Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) v. Rock And Roll - VU Road to Nowhere v. Beginning to See the Light - VU VU 6, Heads 4.

soupcan Mar 07 2006 12:00 PM

I'm far short of being an expert on The Velvet Underground but I have been listening to all of these songs for more than a week now. Awesome. Just really great, I'm really glad you guys hooked me up with them. Once in a Lifetime v. Foggy Notion - TALKING HEADS - I LOVE Foggy Notion and it would've beaten every other 'Heads tune here, but Once in a Lifetime has special meaning to me. Life During Wartime v. Sweet Jane - TIE Thank You for Sending Me an Angel v. All Tomorrow's Parties - TIE Heaven v. White Light/White Heat - VELVET UNDERGROUND Take Me to the River v. Venus In Furs - TIE Slippery People v. Waiting For the Man - TIE Psycho Killer v. Femme Fatale - TALKING HEADS Burning Down the House v. Pale Blue Eyes - TIE Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) v. Rock And Roll - VELVET UNDERGROUND Road to Nowhere v. Beginning to See the Light - TALKING HEADS TALKING HEADS - 5.5 / VELVET UNDERGROUND - 4.5 The Velvet Underground definitely suffers because their music has little personal history with me, while The Heads are part of the soundtrack to my college years. Gimme a coupla years and this contest could easily tilt to a landslide the other way. Thanks again for making me listen. OE: And btw - these are 20 really great songs. I created a playlist of them all and have been listening to it since yesterday.

Edgy DC Mar 07 2006 12:18 PM

]I'm far short of being an expert on The Velvet Underground but I have been listening to all of these songs for more than a week now. Awesome. Just really great, I'm really glad you guys hooked me up with them. See, this is the great byproduct of the BLC. I was led on to VU by older brothers and sisters. I wore a borrowed VU T-shirt before I knew more than one or two of their songs. I told the chicks at the party that they "sound more or less like Duran Duran." But my guys and I were already piecing together the catalog and we had gone to see Lou together at some lousy auditorium. Then --- about the time I graduated from high school, I think --- their entire catalog was re-released. It was great to have the whole thing, but somehow I preferred the mix tapes we were able to make with what we could find of the origiinal releases. Hisses and pops sound right on VU songs. I just listened to Jonathan Richman's goofy song "Velvet Underground" (from I, Jonathan) yesterday. Download it now!

Willets Point Mar 08 2006 12:05 PM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Mar 08 2006 12:12 PM

I'm trying to tally this one up too, but there's so many ties it's near freaking impossible! I think this is right: Once in a Lifetime 8, Foggy Notion 0 Life During Wartime 3, Sweet Jane 5 Thank You for Sending Me an Angel 2,. All Tomorrow's Parties 6 Heaven 2.5, White Light/White Heat 5.5 Take Me to the River 7,. Venus In Furs 1 Slippery People 3, Waiting For the Man 5 Psycho Killer 5.5, Femme Fatale 2.5 Burning Down the House 5.5, Pale Blue Eyes 2.5 Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place) 1, Rock And Roll 7 Road to Nowhere 4.5, Beginning to See the Light 3.5 TOTAL: Talking Heads 42, Velvet Underground 38

sharpie Mar 08 2006 12:09 PM

Once In a Lifetime 8 Foggy Notion 0 Life During Wartime 2 Sweet Jane 4 Tie 2 Thank You..Angel 1 All Tomorrow's Parties 5 Tie 2 Heaven 2 White Light/White Heat 5 Tie 1 Take Me to the River 6 Venus in Furs 0 Tie 2 Slippery People 2 Waiting for the Man 4 Tie 2 Psycho Killer 5 Femme Fatale 2 Tie 1 Burning Down the House 5 Pale Blue Eyes 2 Tie 1 Naive Melody 0 Rock & Roll 6 Tie 2 Road to Nowhere 3 Beginning to See the Light 2 Tie 3 Talking Heads 34 Velvet Underground 30 Ties 16(!)

Willets Point Mar 08 2006 12:12 PM

Crap! If I had waited I could've saved myself some trouble.

Rotblatt Mar 08 2006 12:31 PM

sharpie wrote: Once In a Lifetime 8 Foggy Notion 0 Life During Wartime 2 Sweet Jane 4 Tie 2 Thank You..Angel 1 All Tomorrow's Parties 5 Tie 2 Heaven 2 White Light/White Heat 5 Tie 1 Take Me to the River 6 Venus in Furs 0 Tie 2 Slippery People 2 Waiting for the Man 4 Tie 2 Psycho Killer 5 Femme Fatale 2 Tie 1 Burning Down the House 5 Pale Blue Eyes 2 Tie 1 Naive Melody 0 Rock & Roll 6 Tie 2 Road to Nowhere 3 Beginning to See the Light 2 Tie 3 Talking Heads 34 Velvet Underground 30 Ties 16(!) Wow, but that's close. I overestimated the ability of powerhouses Femme Fatale & Pale Blue Eyes to neutralize Psycho Killer & Burning Down the House. Venus In Furs looks like a mistake as well--perhaps Heroin or Jesus would have performed better there . . . A fine contest, sharpie!

Willets Point Mar 08 2006 12:33 PM

Definitely go with "Heroin" that's a great song.

Rotblatt Mar 08 2006 12:40 PM

Willets Point wrote: Definitely go with "Heroin" that's a great song. Yeah, it did very poorly in the Queen battle, though, so I scrapped it. Maybe a bad idea.

Willets Point Mar 08 2006 12:43 PM

I think lineups and matchups play a big part. "Let's Go Crazy" -- my all time favorite Prince song and one I thought would do well -- got only three votes against Petty. This suprised me, but lucky I didn't ditch it because it's been a huge votegetter in the other two challenges.

soupcan Mar 08 2006 12:47 PM

Heroin - good. Foggy Notion - against any other 'Heads song gets my vote 'Temptation Inside Your Heart - Another gem

sharpie Mar 08 2006 12:51 PM

On the TH side, Naive Melody got hammered against tough competition and Thank You for Sending Me an Angel did very poorly against All Tomorrow's Parties. Stay Up Late, Cities, Don't Worry About the Government all will get their due in later contests. I was surprised that Heroin didn't make the VU cut.