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Kids in the Pool or Adult Swim? (split from Next to Nothing)

KC Mar 06 2006 07:05 PM

Administrator's Note: This discussion began as an offshot of the Next to Nothing thread about whether or not CPF members should allow their children to participate in the CPF. For the record ... I was, am, and will continue to be against a kid that age participating (on whatever level of parental controls) in any discussion here.

ScarletKnight41 Mar 06 2006 08:16 PM

He's seen worse.

KC Mar 06 2006 08:57 PM

I don't care what he's seen outside of this forum. I do care what he sees here, and there's no reason why he and his buddies can't log onto cranepool.net in the computer lab at school to see what MK "posted" yesterday. It's just dumb - dee you em bee. It's common sense wise, legally wise, annoying wise, safety wise, totally un- necessary wise to have your nine year old son post here. And I can at the very least state my not wanting it to not happen here without you throwing it back in my face with a not caring, "he's seen worse"

ScarletKnight41 Mar 06 2006 09:13 PM

It's not that I don't take note of your objection. But, after weighing and balancing and considering the situation, I am personally comfortable with his presence here. As for 9-year-olds visiting the Pool - this is the Internet. We have no idea who reads this forum, whether they're registered or not (or whether they're supervised or not). If, as a community, we want to revisit what we post here, I leave that up to you. But MK is just one kid whom you know about - don't think that there aren't already other kids who read the board.

KC Mar 06 2006 10:16 PM

I'll sleep on it, but I'll probably delete him tomorrow. He can re-register and you can sign the release form that I didn't make you sign the first time. I need a lecture like I need a hole in the head.

MFS62 Mar 06 2006 10:19 PM

KC wrote: For the record ... I was, am, and will continue to be against a kid that age participating (on whatever level of parental controls) in any discussion here. I'm more concerned that he cast the deciding vote in the song parody contest. KC, now you're saying he shouldn't have been here? Later

ScarletKnight41 Mar 06 2006 10:37 PM

KC wrote: I'll sleep on it, but I'll probably delete him tomorrow. He can re-register and you can sign the release form that I didn't make you sign the first time. I need a lecture like I need a hole in the head. Lecture? I'm addressing your points. I don't see that as a lecture.

metirish Mar 06 2006 10:42 PM

I think I used to have a problem with kids here, but you know it's not like MK posts a lot and I trust SK is there when he does post, having said that I don't watch what I post because I think a kid might see curse words and the like.

Yancy Street Gang Mar 07 2006 09:13 AM

There's definitely adult content here. (And a lot of juvenile content, too.) The question isn't how often the nine-year-old posts, it's how much he reads. I'm also the parent of a nine-year-old boy and I don't want him anywhere near a forum that links to pages that describe the origin of Duaner Sanchez's potential CPF nickname. This is a grown-up forum, and we can't (and shouldn't) tailor what we post to any children who may be reading. But, having said that, it's up to Scarlett to decide whether or not her child should be here. This forum is what it is, and if she doesn't object to her son being here, then I don't either. But her judgement does differ from mine.

sharpie Mar 07 2006 09:18 AM

]I'm more concerned that he cast the deciding vote in the song parody contest. KC, now you're saying he shouldn't have been here? When my son, Lenny Harris, joined up to sponsor Pink Floyd in the BLC I thought about the parody contest, which he was also interested in. I would tell him not to vote in any contest that I was involved in. The difference, of course, between him and MK is that he is 13, almost 14. Not much here that he hasn't heard elsewhere and he isn't interested enough in the other stuff here for him to poke around to find out the secrets of Duaner Sanchez. Or Mackey Sasser.

ScarletKnight41 Mar 07 2006 09:22 AM

I've never asked anyone to tailor their posts to my son. And he's never online unless I'm at the computer with him. 95% of his postings are in IGTs anyway - he enjoys commenting on games.

Johnny Dickshot Mar 07 2006 11:22 AM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: I've never asked anyone to tailor their posts to my son. And he's never online unless I'm at the computer with him. 95% of his postings are in IGTs anyway - he enjoys commenting on games. I appreciate that, but to my way of thinking it's not really a matter of being asked or not: Just knowing there's a 9-year-old hanging around the room sorta weirds me out. I also don't have a lot of hope he or we really benefit from what might be added, conversation-wise, by having a young kid in here. I mean this in a kind and understanding way.

ScarletKnight41 Mar 07 2006 11:32 AM

I understand what you're saying. I'm balancing that against the fact that after the July 4th game last year he really wanted to be a part of things here. I doubt that his IGT posts will have any negative effects on those threads. In fact, the one thing I remember most about the July 4th game, sitting between him and you, was how the two of you were making identical observations at times, and I was getting them in stereo. FWIW, except for IGTs, MK isn't looking at any posts that I'm not specifically showing him, and he's here under supervision. And, like I said before, he's the 9-year-old whom you know about - it's unrealistic to think that there aren't other kids lurking here, whether they post or not.

Rotblatt Mar 07 2006 11:49 AM

FWIW, I think it's kind of fun having a 9-year old join in occaisionally, and I don't think the content here is much more adult than what goes on at Shea. I have some pretty vivid memories of going to games with my dad & his friends as a kid and thinking getting to hang out with them was the coolest thing ever. I heard some naughty words and a few off-color jokes, but I turned out none the worse for wear. And I always had a really good time. When I have a kid myself, maybe my opinion will change a bit, but I honestly doubt it.

Bret Sabermetric Mar 07 2006 12:03 PM

My twelve year old used to post on the MOFO, and it was a mixed experiment in parental control. OTOH, she got to engage in semi-adult discussions with her semi-adult dad and his quasi-adult friends, and it was a good, fairlysafe on-line environment for her to start being perceived as an adult herself. (Not so good when she did things like quote Tom Landry from a book of sports quotes and spell his last name "Laundry" and take adult ribbing for it, which she was sensitive about.) And it did get out of hand when some MOFOites thought it was a reasonable response to some of my posts there to refer to me as a morbidly obese, flaming gay internet sex predator. That was kind of disturbing to her, I think, to have to deal with that kind of hatred and ugliness. It's Mom's call, but I wouldn't recommend it personally myself.

seawolf17 Mar 07 2006 12:08 PM

Scarlet's right; there are probably other kids lurking around here, afraid to post for fear of being ridiculed, or for fear of not using big enough words to appeal to the intelligentsia among us. We can't stop them. (Of course, why they'd hang out here when they could be playing with their friends is beyond me, but that's another issue.) Ultimately, it comes down to her decision; if she'd like him here, then let him be here; if you're uncomfortable with it, then don't be off-color. If SK or D-Dad feel anything here gets too off-color, I'm sure they'll steer him away from it. Kase can put all sorts of parental disclaimers on the registration form, but ultimately, kids'll find a way in if they want to. And realistically, I'd rather have MiniWolf hang out here, where there's some intelligent sports discussion, a smorgasboard of popular culture, and proper use of curse words, as opposed to some site where I'm not around. But of course, he's twelve days old, so he's not quite ready to post yet.

cooby Mar 07 2006 12:09 PM

Any chance since I'm wearing a pink shirt for MK on Friday, that he could come here and vote for ELO for me?

TheOldMole Mar 07 2006 12:15 PM

I don't think there's anything all that offensive here, beyond the occasional four-letter word. I might hold off on using a few of those if I knew a 9-year-old was reading, but that't not so ****ing hard, and the place might be a **** of a lot better off for not having them. On the other hand, I did take my 13-year-old grandson to see "The Aristocrats" (with the permission of both his parents). He's very interested in comedy, and I'd read about what a good insight it gives into how comedy works. His mother, whenever they find themselves in the middle of a surreally dumb argument, tells him, "I better not hear you talking about this onstage when you become a professional comedian!"

SwitchHitter Mar 07 2006 12:16 PM

My kids have expressed an interest in hanging out here. If it becomes serious, I'll even help them. They tend to post more than they read, and not post much. (They've tried Astros fora in the past.)

cooby Mar 07 2006 12:27 PM

My kids are both young adults so maybe it's a moot point. But although I love my family dearly, I wouldn't want them hanging out here with me; this is my place. You are my friends, they have their own. And their friends are their own age. They have their space, I have mine. And we have plenty of interaction. But that's not to say everyone feels the same as I do.

KC Mar 07 2006 12:45 PM

Thanks to the admin who took the time to switch this out of the other thread.

Johnny Dickshot Mar 07 2006 12:50 PM

]it's unrealistic to think that there aren't other kids lurking here, whether they post or not. "Whether they post or not" is the key distinction here. It's the only distinction. ]; if you're uncomfortable with it, then don't be off-color. This is exactly the compromise inserting a 9-year-old into the conversation here brings. But since I'm not comfortable carrying on a discussion with a 9-year-old in this medium, I'm not going to, and if I'm not going to, then what are they -- or I -- doing in this medium in the first place? It's weird.

ScarletKnight41 Mar 07 2006 12:53 PM

="TheOldMole"] On the other hand, I did take my 13-year-old grandson to see "The Aristocrats" (with the permission of both his parents). I think about that constantly. It's beyond my personal limits (I don't think that I'm old enough for The Aristocrats!), but I trust you to know your grandson and what's appropriate for him.

soupcan Mar 07 2006 01:07 PM

I don't have a problem with a kid posting or reading but at the same time I'm not going to watch what I write because of them. The one time I edited something I wrote because of the age of the person I was addressing was when I made a drug reference in response to sharpie's son posting about Pink Floyd. I edited it because I realized that it was an inapproprite thing to say especially when I knew the kid was 13. I think if you're opposed to a kid being here then simply don't address them and don't censor yourself.

Johnny Dickshot Mar 07 2006 01:34 PM

]I think if you're opposed to a kid being here then simply don't address them and don't censor yourself. Or just don't post because you oppose it, I suppose.

cooby Mar 07 2006 01:41 PM

I hope this doesn't mean Johnny would stop posting

Centerfield Mar 07 2006 02:43 PM

I have no problem with any parent deciding what is appropriate and not appropriate for their children to read. If Scarlet thinks CPF is appropriate for her son, that's her call and I respect that. If anyone else thinks CPF is not appropriate for their kids, I can respect that too. I'm not about to censor anything I say knowing MK is around. I imagine, as has been pointed out, that he's not the only 9 year old reading this site. I'm sure the parents can do a good enough job teaching their kids not to use the language I use. Or for that matter, for taking anything I write seriosly. As far as Mini-Knight's contributions, I think he has more pertinent things to say than half the adults on the internet.

KC Mar 07 2006 02:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 07 2006 06:46 PM

He's kicked you in the shins too, huh?

sharpie Mar 07 2006 03:29 PM

When Lenny Harris signed up there was a requirement that he be 13 (which we was/is). Anyone younger than that would have to (gasp) lie in order to be able to post. MK aside, I think that would be grounds for banishment.

ScarletKnight41 Mar 07 2006 04:09 PM

It's not as if he lied about his age when he registered 8 months ago. The admins activated his registration knowing exactly how old he was. Nor is it like he's posted inappropriately. To suddenly banish him, right before the start of the baseball season, would be a little cruel, don't you think?

Yancy Street Gang Mar 07 2006 04:21 PM

The only one who should banish him should be his mother. If his mom says it's okay for him to be here, then I say it's okay for him to be here. He just shouldn't be allowed to talk about Duaner Sanchez!

seawolf17 Mar 07 2006 04:23 PM

Or Mackey Sasser.

cooby Mar 07 2006 04:24 PM

What's to say about Mackey Sasser? He'll never show up :(

cooby Mar 07 2006 04:25 PM

Look at that face, Yancy how can you resist!?'

sharpie Mar 07 2006 04:29 PM

SK, I was making an exception for MK. I think if it is an offspring of a member and they're ok with it, then they should be able to post. If not, and they're under 13, they shouldn't.

Centerfield Mar 07 2006 04:29 PM

He hasn't gotten me yet, but just the threat of it is enough to keep me in line.

ScarletKnight41 Mar 07 2006 05:57 PM

Sharpie - gotcha. CF - lol